Trump is winning over Democrats and Independents on Jobs policy.

Again you history ignorant moron that's how our nation got its start for the first 100 years


God damn you are stupid, how the duck did the U. S. Government get revenue?

There was no income tax,
they got it from fucking tariffs





Tariffs in United States history
For general information on tariffs, see Tariff.

Graph: Share of tariff revenues in U.S. Federal budget.

Tariffs in United States history have played important roles in trade policy, political debates and the nation'seconomic history. The main goal of the tariff was money to pay the federal budget.[citation needed] Controversy arose over whether manufacturing interests were favored and consumer interests hurt by high tariffs. The 1st United States Congress, wanting a straightforward tax that was not too onerous and easy to collect, passed theTariff Act of 1789. Treasury agents collected the tariff before goods could be landed, and what became the Coast Guard prevented smuggling. Tariffs were the largest (approaching 95% at times) source of federal revenue until the Federal income tax began after 1913. For well over a century the federal government was largely financed by tariffs averaging about 20% on foreign imports.


We don't consider taxes--tariffs-- in this country anymore. Trump is proposing tariff's on Foreign goods, not taxes. They've never worked. A 35% penalty on a new ford truck would be passed onto the American consumer, making foreign made cars even more appealing to American consumers. Both are dead on arrival.

SMOOT-HAWLEY

"The dutiable tariff level (this does not include duty-free imports—see Tariff levels below) under the act was the second highest in the U.S. in 100 years, exceeded by a small margin by the Tariff of 1828.[3] Most economists view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half.[4] The extent of Smoot-Hawley's negative effect on the Depression-era economy remains debated by economists. According to Ben Bernanke, "Economists still agree that Smoot-Hawley and the ensuing tariff wars were highly counterproductive and contributed to the depth and length of the global Depression."[5] Alfred E. Eckes argues, however, that the tariff had little effect on the severity of the Great Depression,[6] while Douglas A. Irwin in The Review of Economics and Statistics argued it was only a small portion.[7]"



What do we have now common core history?

Again asshole...you claim not a single job was created by tariffs in this country..



So explain to us how did the federal government get paid, how did the military get paid?


Considering we didn't start a federal income tax till 1913


Did they get paid with Dixie dust and unicorn farts?


God are you ignorant its not even funny.


.


Look "lil" Einstein, I just gave you a verifiable link to what economists, and Federal Reserve chiefs have stated about tariffs. I don't give a rats ass if you want to call them taxes or tariffs. THEY DON'T FUCKING WORK, AND THEY DON'T CREATE JOBS--THEY ARE A JOB KILLER.

Any 1/2 brain can figure out that if we "tax or tariff foreign goods, then China or any other will tax or tariff American goods. This is what has happened in the past. Then it goes into a trade war. The cost of the product skyrocket's--meaning American are paying more for those products, taking more out of their pockets, which always results in massive job layoffs.

Read it 100 times if you have too dumbass.

SMOOT--HAWLEY


The dutiable tariff level (this does not include duty-free imports—see Tariff levels below) under the act was the second highest in the U.S. in 100 years, exceeded by a small margin by the Tariff of 1828.[3] Most economists view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half.[4] The extent of Smoot-Hawley's negative effect on the Depression-era economy remains debated by economists. According to Ben Bernanke, "Economists still agree that Smoot-Hawley and the ensuing tariff wars were highly counterproductive and contributed to the depth and length of the global Depression."
Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act - Wikipedia

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Don't try to change the goal post


Mr Common core history moron..



Again you claimed not a single job was created by Tariffs on two separate threads..


So here is my history lesson for you since your Union history teacher wouldn't know history if it slapped her in the face..



For the last time The United States of America was built on tariffs till the late 1800s , then in 1913 the Federal income tax was started.


Comprehend? No more I have to see you lying in future threads?



And btw I know trade wars and tariffs don't work in the 20th and 21st century because I am not a damn liberal...



Trump is the liberal In republican clothing.


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Again you history ignorant moron that's how our nation got its start for the first 100 years


God damn you are stupid, how the duck did the U. S. Government get revenue?

There was no income tax,
they got it from fucking tariffs





Tariffs in United States history
For general information on tariffs, see Tariff.

Graph: Share of tariff revenues in U.S. Federal budget.

Tariffs in United States history have played important roles in trade policy, political debates and the nation'seconomic history. The main goal of the tariff was money to pay the federal budget.[citation needed] Controversy arose over whether manufacturing interests were favored and consumer interests hurt by high tariffs. The 1st United States Congress, wanting a straightforward tax that was not too onerous and easy to collect, passed theTariff Act of 1789. Treasury agents collected the tariff before goods could be landed, and what became the Coast Guard prevented smuggling. Tariffs were the largest (approaching 95% at times) source of federal revenue until the Federal income tax began after 1913. For well over a century the federal government was largely financed by tariffs averaging about 20% on foreign imports.


We don't consider taxes--tariffs-- in this country anymore. Trump is proposing tariff's on Foreign goods, not taxes. They've never worked. A 35% penalty on a new ford truck would be passed onto the American consumer, making foreign made cars even more appealing to American consumers. Both are dead on arrival.

SMOOT-HAWLEY

"The dutiable tariff level (this does not include duty-free imports—see Tariff levels below) under the act was the second highest in the U.S. in 100 years, exceeded by a small margin by the Tariff of 1828.[3] Most economists view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half.[4] The extent of Smoot-Hawley's negative effect on the Depression-era economy remains debated by economists. According to Ben Bernanke, "Economists still agree that Smoot-Hawley and the ensuing tariff wars were highly counterproductive and contributed to the depth and length of the global Depression."[5] Alfred E. Eckes argues, however, that the tariff had little effect on the severity of the Great Depression,[6] while Douglas A. Irwin in The Review of Economics and Statistics argued it was only a small portion.[7]"



What do we have now common core history?

Again asshole...you claim not a single job was created by tariffs in this country..



So explain to us how did the federal government get paid, how did the military get paid?


Considering we didn't start a federal income tax till 1913


Did they get paid with Dixie dust and unicorn farts?


God are you ignorant its not even funny.


.


Look "lil" Einstein, I just gave you a verifiable link to what economists, and Federal Reserve chiefs have stated about tariffs. I don't give a rats ass if you want to call them taxes or tariffs. THEY DON'T FUCKING WORK, AND THEY DON'T CREATE JOBS--THEY ARE A JOB KILLER.

Any 1/2 brain can figure out that if we "tax or tariff foreign goods, then China or any other will tax or tariff American goods. This is what has happened in the past. Then it goes into a trade war. The cost of the product skyrocket's--meaning American are paying more for those products, taking more out of their pockets, which always results in massive job layoffs.

Read it 100 times if you have too dumbass.

SMOOT--HAWLEY


The dutiable tariff level (this does not include duty-free imports—see Tariff levels below) under the act was the second highest in the U.S. in 100 years, exceeded by a small margin by the Tariff of 1828.[3] Most economists view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half.[4] The extent of Smoot-Hawley's negative effect on the Depression-era economy remains debated by economists. According to Ben Bernanke, "Economists still agree that Smoot-Hawley and the ensuing tariff wars were highly counterproductive and contributed to the depth and length of the global Depression."
Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act - Wikipedia

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Don't try to change the goal post


Mr Common core history moron..



Again you claimed not a single job was created by Tariffs on two separate threads..


So here is my history lesson for you since your Union history teacher wouldn't know history if it slapped her in the face..



For the last time The United States of America was built on tariffs till the late 1800s , then in 1913 the Federal income tax was started.


Comprehend? No more I have to see you lying in future threads?



I don't give a rats ass what it was built on. If you tariff or tax foreign goods they will tax and tariff ours. It's been proven over and over again to be counterproductive to job growth in this country. The YEAR is now 2016 not 1800.
Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act - Wikipedia

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Trump is not going to piss off countries where he has investments. China has the POWER over him, not the other way around.


Sure he will. YOu assume his ass isn't covered, which is unlikely, AND you forget the leverage he will have as President.


Then you have a Republican congress that has ALWAYS been free pro-trade.

Time change. And Trump just showed them where the votes are. ANd his supporters are still pissed off at them.



Steel manufacturing in this country is GONE forever. No builder or developer is going to buy American steel when they can get the same product for less than 1/2 the price--because they too are "competing with other builders and developers."

Steel production is not gone. It's reduced, and it can be increased. Those other builders and developers will be playing by the same rules.

A Republican congress would never agree to tariffs, or penalizing American corporations 35%--that have never created a single job in this country and only drive up the cost to the American consumers--which then create massive job layoffs everywhere. Not going to happen.

Blah, blah, blah. Why are you afraid of change?

Mexico is our number 2 buyer of American products. The north American trade agreement aka NAFTA is between Mexico & Canada. You screw Mexico you screw Canada also. In Mexico they actually pay more than we do for cars, appliances, etc. that we get cheaper because they're American made.

So what's Mexico going to give us? A Pinata factory? What's Canada going to give us? You need to look a little bit more beyond the tip of your nose on this. Yes, you're angry you lost your manufacturing job years ago, and you swallowed the bait, hook, line and sinker with Trump. Talk is very cheap.



Mexico is gong to give US what we want. Or they can go fuck themselves.


Trump is no longer on the campaign trail, he is now in the ballpark with a lot of Republicans he has made enemies of. Trump and his supporters have made a lot of enemies in the Senate especially. John McCain who lead the charge, on this Russian involvement, and actually put the pressure on Obama to issue this executive order. Trump brutally attacked him as not being a war hero, after being shot down and tortured for 5 years. Ted Cruz was called a liar a thousand times over. His wife and father assaulted with some vicious lies. Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Senate house leader Mitch McConnell who stated they would dump Trump like a hot rock. So while you think you have a 51 seat majority it's really 51 minus 6 or 7. Senate Republicans are going to do what Mitch McConnell wants to do.

On the House side, House speaker, Paul Ryan you attacked and even tried to primary him. There is no love lost between Trump and his supporters--and they will doing what they can get done over the next 2 years. House Republicans will be doing what Paul Ryan wants to do.

Because they know that 2 years is all they've got. Their attention will be focused on Obamacare, taxes, medicare, social security, and budgets. They're going to get done what they haven't been able too in the last 6 years. Wall building, deportation, and trade deals will go way way back on the burner.


Trump is the big winner. He is going to be the one driving the agenda.

McCain and his fellow rinos have never faced some one like Trump who is not going to be afraid of calling him on his fucking bullshit.

If McCain and his fellows want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, once again, Trump will not take the high road and let it go.


Ryan? You didn't see Ryan on election night. He learned a lot that night. And he want's to be President someday.


To have a hope in hell of that happening, he has to dig himself out of a big hole he made, in fighting Trump the way he did.

If he has a single functioning brain cell, he knows that.
McCain, Graham, Paul, Rubio, etc., with the Dems, can shut Trump down flat. Not a thing he can do. Ryan has to corral the freedom caucus and the nevertrumpers. And Ryan would rather Trump go away quietly, by impeachment if necessary.

And even the majority of the GOP would prefer a President Pence.
McCain and Graham are the only ones who will turn traitor.

Rubio and Cruz are already allies because they know it will help them to be so. Rand Paul is a non-factor.


I wouldn't call John McCain nor Lindsey Graham traitors for outing Russian involvement into this election to get Comrade Trumpsky elected, LOL. Again you have made way to many Republican enemies to get anything done that Trump campaigned on. That's probably why they have been avoiding the Trump Tower as if it has been infected with the Ebola virus. They've already stated that a 35% tax on American corporations is out of the question, and so are tariffs. None of them are going to bend over and kiss Trump's ass.

Russia is probably where you're going to see the job growth. Russia wants sanctions lifted, and the Trump empire probably wants to expand it's hotels and golf courses there.

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Sure he will. YOu assume his ass isn't covered, which is unlikely, AND you forget the leverage he will have as President.


Time change. And Trump just showed them where the votes are. ANd his supporters are still pissed off at them.



Steel production is not gone. It's reduced, and it can be increased. Those other builders and developers will be playing by the same rules.

Blah, blah, blah. Why are you afraid of change?

Mexico is gong to give US what we want. Or they can go fuck themselves.


Trump is no longer on the campaign trail, he is now in the ballpark with a lot of Republicans he has made enemies of. Trump and his supporters have made a lot of enemies in the Senate especially. John McCain who lead the charge, on this Russian involvement, and actually put the pressure on Obama to issue this executive order. Trump brutally attacked him as not being a war hero, after being shot down and tortured for 5 years. Ted Cruz was called a liar a thousand times over. His wife and father assaulted with some vicious lies. Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Senate house leader Mitch McConnell who stated they would dump Trump like a hot rock. So while you think you have a 51 seat majority it's really 51 minus 6 or 7. Senate Republicans are going to do what Mitch McConnell wants to do.

On the House side, House speaker, Paul Ryan you attacked and even tried to primary him. There is no love lost between Trump and his supporters--and they will doing what they can get done over the next 2 years. House Republicans will be doing what Paul Ryan wants to do.

Because they know that 2 years is all they've got. Their attention will be focused on Obamacare, taxes, medicare, social security, and budgets. They're going to get done what they haven't been able too in the last 6 years. Wall building, deportation, and trade deals will go way way back on the burner.


Trump is the big winner. He is going to be the one driving the agenda.

McCain and his fellow rinos have never faced some one like Trump who is not going to be afraid of calling him on his fucking bullshit.

If McCain and his fellows want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, once again, Trump will not take the high road and let it go.


Ryan? You didn't see Ryan on election night. He learned a lot that night. And he want's to be President someday.


To have a hope in hell of that happening, he has to dig himself out of a big hole he made, in fighting Trump the way he did.

If he has a single functioning brain cell, he knows that.
McCain, Graham, Paul, Rubio, etc., with the Dems, can shut Trump down flat. Not a thing he can do. Ryan has to corral the freedom caucus and the nevertrumpers. And Ryan would rather Trump go away quietly, by impeachment if necessary.

And even the majority of the GOP would prefer a President Pence.
McCain and Graham are the only ones who will turn traitor.

Rubio and Cruz are already allies because they know it will help them to be so. Rand Paul is a non-factor.


I wouldn't call John McCain nor Lindsey Graham traitors for outing Russian involvement into this election to get Comrade Trumpsky elected, LOL. Again you have made way to many Republican enemies to get anything done that Trump campaigned on. That's probably why they have been avoiding the Trump Tower as if it has been infected with the Ebola virus. They've already stated that a 35% tax on American corporations is out of the question, and so are tariffs. None of them are going to bend over and kiss Trump's ass.

Russia is probably where you're going to see the job growth. Russia wants sanctions lifted, and the Trump empire probably wants to expand it's hotels and golf courses there.

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I love how you don't realize how stupid you are for opposing a caricature of the Tea Party made up by fake news outlets and Democrat propaganda organs, and at the same time opposing Democrat favored economics and trade.

You are just as nonsensical as morons like McCain and Graham who literally stand for nothing.
 
If he can get more, a lot more, good paying jobs, he can get away with everything else.

if he can't, then he can't get away with anything.

He must produce jobs.

And the only way as a President is to do it the statist progressive way.
If he gets 4% growth and little inflation, we'll see the jobs. They aren't "coming back" from overseas. US Steel said it could rehire 10K workers if the econ took off, but the jobs were never exported. They were just layoffs. And we are hitting china with steel tariffs.

But Trump will fuck the Trumpbots. The gop will cut medicare and soc sec. A 50 year old white guy in rural PA who lost a union job is doubly focked. US Steel doesn't need old focks. They get hurt more and are less productive.
The jobs will pour into America from overseas.....I think the more difficult thing will bento get our machines back from China.....
 
Sure he will. YOu assume his ass isn't covered, which is unlikely, AND you forget the leverage he will have as President.


Time change. And Trump just showed them where the votes are. ANd his supporters are still pissed off at them.



Steel production is not gone. It's reduced, and it can be increased. Those other builders and developers will be playing by the same rules.

Blah, blah, blah. Why are you afraid of change?

Mexico is gong to give US what we want. Or they can go fuck themselves.


Trump is no longer on the campaign trail, he is now in the ballpark with a lot of Republicans he has made enemies of. Trump and his supporters have made a lot of enemies in the Senate especially. John McCain who lead the charge, on this Russian involvement, and actually put the pressure on Obama to issue this executive order. Trump brutally attacked him as not being a war hero, after being shot down and tortured for 5 years. Ted Cruz was called a liar a thousand times over. His wife and father assaulted with some vicious lies. Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Senate house leader Mitch McConnell who stated they would dump Trump like a hot rock. So while you think you have a 51 seat majority it's really 51 minus 6 or 7. Senate Republicans are going to do what Mitch McConnell wants to do.

On the House side, House speaker, Paul Ryan you attacked and even tried to primary him. There is no love lost between Trump and his supporters--and they will doing what they can get done over the next 2 years. House Republicans will be doing what Paul Ryan wants to do.

Because they know that 2 years is all they've got. Their attention will be focused on Obamacare, taxes, medicare, social security, and budgets. They're going to get done what they haven't been able too in the last 6 years. Wall building, deportation, and trade deals will go way way back on the burner.


Trump is the big winner. He is going to be the one driving the agenda.

McCain and his fellow rinos have never faced some one like Trump who is not going to be afraid of calling him on his fucking bullshit.

If McCain and his fellows want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, once again, Trump will not take the high road and let it go.


Ryan? You didn't see Ryan on election night. He learned a lot that night. And he want's to be President someday.


To have a hope in hell of that happening, he has to dig himself out of a big hole he made, in fighting Trump the way he did.

If he has a single functioning brain cell, he knows that.
McCain, Graham, Paul, Rubio, etc., with the Dems, can shut Trump down flat. Not a thing he can do. Ryan has to corral the freedom caucus and the nevertrumpers. And Ryan would rather Trump go away quietly, by impeachment if necessary.

And even the majority of the GOP would prefer a President Pence.
McCain and Graham are the only ones who will turn traitor.

Rubio and Cruz are already allies because they know it will help them to be so. Rand Paul is a non-factor.


I wouldn't call John McCain nor Lindsey Graham traitors for outing Russian involvement into this election to get Comrade Trumpsky elected, LOL. Again you have made way to many Republican enemies to get anything done that Trump campaigned on. That's probably why they have been avoiding the Trump Tower as if it has been infected with the Ebola virus. They've already stated that a 35% tax on American corporations is out of the question, and so are tariffs. None of them are going to bend over and kiss Trump's ass.

Russia is probably where you're going to see the job growth. Russia wants sanctions lifted, and the Trump empire probably wants to expand it's hotels and golf courses there.

th
McShame and Grahamnisty are traitors.....
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.
This is something I have mixed feelings about. Part of me supports his hardline approach on keeping jobs from going overseas, but the other part of me thinks he is proving himself to be in early stages of fascism. I also don't even trust what he says to be true intentions most of the time.
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.
This is something I have mixed feelings about. Part of me supports his hardline approach on keeping jobs from going overseas, but the other part of me thinks he is proving himself to be in early stages of fascism. I also don't even trust what he says to be true intentions most of the time.
Yes, stopping democrat fascism and reversing it will be difficult....
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.

Yes. He is winning me over. I love, love, LOVE that Carrier deal. It could t have been done without his superior negotiating skills.
 
If he can get more, a lot more, good paying jobs, he can get away with everything else.

if he can't, then he can't get away with anything.

He must produce jobs.

And the only way as a President is to do it the statist progressive way.
If he gets 4% growth and little inflation, we'll see the jobs. They aren't "coming back" from overseas. US Steel said it could rehire 10K workers if the econ took off, but the jobs were never exported. They were just layoffs. And we are hitting china with steel tariffs.

But Trump will fuck the Trumpbots. The gop will cut medicare and soc sec. A 50 year old white guy in rural PA who lost a union job is doubly focked. US Steel doesn't need old focks. They get hurt more and are less productive.

Heard a GOP Congress critter from CT throw shade on Medicare last night. Repubs are going to tell olde folks that they won't lose their Medicare while trying to convince younger folks that they are better off without it. Fun times.
 
God damn you are stupid, how the duck did the U. S. Government get revenue?

There was no income tax,
they got it from fucking tariffs





Tariffs in United States history
For general information on tariffs, see Tariff.

Graph: Share of tariff revenues in U.S. Federal budget.

Tariffs in United States history have played important roles in trade policy, political debates and the nation'seconomic history. The main goal of the tariff was money to pay the federal budget.[citation needed] Controversy arose over whether manufacturing interests were favored and consumer interests hurt by high tariffs. The 1st United States Congress, wanting a straightforward tax that was not too onerous and easy to collect, passed theTariff Act of 1789. Treasury agents collected the tariff before goods could be landed, and what became the Coast Guard prevented smuggling. Tariffs were the largest (approaching 95% at times) source of federal revenue until the Federal income tax began after 1913. For well over a century the federal government was largely financed by tariffs averaging about 20% on foreign imports.


We don't consider taxes--tariffs-- in this country anymore. Trump is proposing tariff's on Foreign goods, not taxes. They've never worked. A 35% penalty on a new ford truck would be passed onto the American consumer, making foreign made cars even more appealing to American consumers. Both are dead on arrival.

SMOOT-HAWLEY

"The dutiable tariff level (this does not include duty-free imports—see Tariff levels below) under the act was the second highest in the U.S. in 100 years, exceeded by a small margin by the Tariff of 1828.[3] Most economists view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half.[4] The extent of Smoot-Hawley's negative effect on the Depression-era economy remains debated by economists. According to Ben Bernanke, "Economists still agree that Smoot-Hawley and the ensuing tariff wars were highly counterproductive and contributed to the depth and length of the global Depression."[5] Alfred E. Eckes argues, however, that the tariff had little effect on the severity of the Great Depression,[6] while Douglas A. Irwin in The Review of Economics and Statistics argued it was only a small portion.[7]"



What do we have now common core history?

Again asshole...you claim not a single job was created by tariffs in this country..



So explain to us how did the federal government get paid, how did the military get paid?


Considering we didn't start a federal income tax till 1913


Did they get paid with Dixie dust and unicorn farts?


God are you ignorant its not even funny.


.


Look "lil" Einstein, I just gave you a verifiable link to what economists, and Federal Reserve chiefs have stated about tariffs. I don't give a rats ass if you want to call them taxes or tariffs. THEY DON'T FUCKING WORK, AND THEY DON'T CREATE JOBS--THEY ARE A JOB KILLER.

Any 1/2 brain can figure out that if we "tax or tariff foreign goods, then China or any other will tax or tariff American goods. This is what has happened in the past. Then it goes into a trade war. The cost of the product skyrocket's--meaning American are paying more for those products, taking more out of their pockets, which always results in massive job layoffs.

Read it 100 times if you have too dumbass.

SMOOT--HAWLEY


The dutiable tariff level (this does not include duty-free imports—see Tariff levels below) under the act was the second highest in the U.S. in 100 years, exceeded by a small margin by the Tariff of 1828.[3] Most economists view the Act, and the ensuing retaliatory tariffs by America's trading partners, as responsible for reducing American exports and imports by more than half.[4] The extent of Smoot-Hawley's negative effect on the Depression-era economy remains debated by economists. According to Ben Bernanke, "Economists still agree that Smoot-Hawley and the ensuing tariff wars were highly counterproductive and contributed to the depth and length of the global Depression."
Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act - Wikipedia

th




Don't try to change the goal post


Mr Common core history moron..



Again you claimed not a single job was created by Tariffs on two separate threads..


So here is my history lesson for you since your Union history teacher wouldn't know history if it slapped her in the face..



For the last time The United States of America was built on tariffs till the late 1800s , then in 1913 the Federal income tax was started.


Comprehend? No more I have to see you lying in future threads?



I don't give a rats ass what it was built on. If you tariff or tax foreign goods they will tax and tariff ours. It's been proven over and over again to be counterproductive to job growth in this country. The YEAR is now 2016 not 1800.
Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act - Wikipedia

th


Oh you stupid mother fucker,you little back tracking child..


How many times did you lie on here saying tariffs never created one job?


How many times child?


.
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.
This is something I have mixed feelings about. Part of me supports his hardline approach on keeping jobs from going overseas, but the other part of me thinks he is proving himself to be in early stages of fascism. I also don't even trust what he says to be true intentions most of the time.

Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.
This is something I have mixed feelings about. Part of me supports his hardline approach on keeping jobs from going overseas, but the other part of me thinks he is proving himself to be in early stages of fascism. I also don't even trust what he says to be true intentions most of the time.


Billy give it a year or so.. Like I said before I will be the first one to attack Trump if he leads down that path.


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Trump will either deliver on jobs, or he will be the man behind the curtain and punished accordingly.
 
If he can get more, a lot more, good paying jobs, he can get away with everything else.

if he can't, then he can't get away with anything.

He must produce jobs.

And the only way as a President is to do it the statist progressive way.
If he gets 4% growth and little inflation, we'll see the jobs. They aren't "coming back" from overseas. US Steel said it could rehire 10K workers if the econ took off, but the jobs were never exported. They were just layoffs. And we are hitting china with steel tariffs.

But Trump will fuck the Trumpbots. The gop will cut medicare and soc sec. A 50 year old white guy in rural PA who lost a union job is doubly focked. US Steel doesn't need old focks. They get hurt more and are less productive.

Heard a GOP Congress critter from CT throw shade on Medicare last night. Repubs are going to tell olde folks that they won't lose their Medicare while trying to convince younger folks that they are better off without it. Fun times.
When Democrats refuse to allow reforms on entitlements they go belly up, moron.

I love how you think Democrats can find pots of gold under every rainbow to pay for ever increasing expenses with a smaller and smaller tax base and decreasing budget.
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.

Yes. He is winning me over. I love, love, LOVE that Carrier deal. It could t have been done without his superior negotiating skills.

It was a photoshoot deal about 800 jobs.

LOVE IT? Seriously?
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.

Yes. He is winning me over. I love, love, LOVE that Carrier deal. It could t have been done without his superior negotiating skills.

It was a photoshoot deal about 800 jobs.

LOVE IT? Seriously?

Absolutely. He said he'd bring jobs back and he's begun doing so. He isn't even POTUS yet. He's already saved more jobs than Obunga has in 8 years. Get used to winning.
 
Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.

Yes. He is winning me over. I love, love, LOVE that Carrier deal. It could t have been done without his superior negotiating skills.

It was a photoshoot deal about 800 jobs.

LOVE IT? Seriously?

Absolutely. He said he'd bring jobs back and he's begun doing so. He isn't even POTUS yet. He's already saved more jobs than Obunga has in 8 years. Get used to winning.

Such photoshoots have NOTHING to do with serious policy change and fulfilling his grandiose promises. He has begun nothing of yet.
 
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Trump so won in 2020...I told ya.


CNBC survey: Trump is winning over Democrats and independents on his jobs agenda


Donald Trump's fight to stop U.S. companies from moving jobs overseas is garnering support from an unlikely group of American voters: Non-Republicans, who are warming to the idea of the president-elect in the White House.

New results from the CNBC All-America Economic Survey found more than half of Independents and a quarter of Democrats said they are comfortable and prepared to support Trump as president. An overwhelming 56 percent of those respondents said the top item on his economic agenda should be keeping jobs in the U.S.

The survey of 800 Americans from across the country was conducted December 2-5 by Hart Research Associates and Public Opinion Strategies. Its margin of error is 3.5 percentage points.

Republican pollster Micah Roberts said the results indicate Trump's push to keep jobs on U.S. soil, like his recent deal with Indiana-based air conditioner company Carrier, extends his appeal beyond the coalition of voters who helped him win the election.

Yes. He is winning me over. I love, love, LOVE that Carrier deal. It could t have been done without his superior negotiating skills.

It was a photoshoot deal about 800 jobs.

LOVE IT? Seriously?

Absolutely. He said he'd bring jobs back and he's begun doing so. He isn't even POTUS yet. He's already saved more jobs than Obunga has in 8 years. Get used to winning.

Such photoshoots have NOTHING to do with serious policy change and fulfilling his grandiose promises. He has begun nothing of yet.



Consider this word, and it's meaning in the context of the jobs saved so far.



"Definition of symbolic
  1. 1a : using, employing, or exhibiting a symbolb : consisting of or proceeding by means of symbols"
 
All those in favor of allowing China and Mexico to continue fucking us over? Well okay then, get on board with Trump's jobs program.
 

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