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Gave rise to the terrorism that has existed since civilization rose.
There wasn't terrorism internally under Saddam. And Saddam didn't export terrorism.
You know who does export terrorism? IRAN

IRAN
Yup. They were doing it under Reagan, under Bush the Greater, under Clinton, under Bush the Lesser, under Obama.

It has nothing to do with who is POTUS, which Party they are from, or whether we invaded Iraq or not.

So what is your point?
Read your liberal brethrens posts about who created & where they come from ya hack piece of shit. The sand monkeys have been loping off heads in the name of Allah for CENTURIES but you dumbfucks ALWAYS want to blame Bush

A bunch of childish amatuers who don't belong on a political forum
I have no issues at all about imposing sanctions on Iran for their missile program, or their terrorism support, or any host of other reasons. It is a separate subject from the nuclear deal.
Having the sanctions lifted was part of the deal which included the 150 billion. They have already violated the agreement twice so wtf are you daydreaming about?
 
Not long ago, the Iraqi army retook Ramadi, at the cost of hundreds of Iraqi casualties, with some help from the US.

That infuriates the neocon right. That is what they call leading from behind.

In their perfect world of perverted bloodlust, the US army should have been there to retake Ramadi, with hundreds of American casualties, with the Iraqis helping somewhere from behind.

Insanity.
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Yup, Like Bush when he DID send them to Iraq...

But Obama DID take them out, they should be thankful...
Yep and all those great soldiers that died fighting king Iraq, died in vain. Thanks Obama.

Bush sent the soldiers in Iraq to their deaths needlessly.

like Obama did (and is doing) in Afghanistan.....?

at least Bush won....

dafuq?, ahahahahahahahha, at least bush won....
 
What exactly did Bush win?
the Iraq war you fool...

the Iraqi people were given security which they lost as soon as BO pulled out....
and help create ISIS. Obama created them

Starting a war that can not be won was stupid for Bush

Funding insurgence against a secular government was stupid for Obama

So they tie!
For Bush, it was what was wanted due to the collapse of two buildings and why Hillary voted for it. You can't use hindsite to lead.

Obama knew pulling out of Iraq would create ISIS, he went all in on that.


So Bush was stupid, he couldn't see the results of his actions,
but Obama was so smart, he knew what would going to happen before it happened.

I don't think either had any idea what they were doing...
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.
 
the Iraq war you fool...

the Iraqi people were given security which they lost as soon as BO pulled out....
and help create ISIS. Obama created them

Starting a war that can not be won was stupid for Bush

Funding insurgence against a secular government was stupid for Obama

So they tie!
For Bush, it was what was wanted due to the collapse of two buildings and why Hillary voted for it. You can't use hindsite to lead.

Obama knew pulling out of Iraq would create ISIS, he went all in on that.


So Bush was stupid, he couldn't see the results of his actions,
but Obama was so smart, he knew what would going to happen before it happened.

I don't think either had any idea what they were doing...
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
 
and help create ISIS. Obama created them

Starting a war that can not be won was stupid for Bush

Funding insurgence against a secular government was stupid for Obama

So they tie!
For Bush, it was what was wanted due to the collapse of two buildings and why Hillary voted for it. You can't use hindsite to lead.

Obama knew pulling out of Iraq would create ISIS, he went all in on that.


So Bush was stupid, he couldn't see the results of his actions,
but Obama was so smart, he knew what would going to happen before it happened.

I don't think either had any idea what they were doing...
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.
 
Starting a war that can not be won was stupid for Bush

Funding insurgence against a secular government was stupid for Obama

So they tie!
For Bush, it was what was wanted due to the collapse of two buildings and why Hillary voted for it. You can't use hindsite to lead.

Obama knew pulling out of Iraq would create ISIS, he went all in on that.


So Bush was stupid, he couldn't see the results of his actions,
but Obama was so smart, he knew what would going to happen before it happened.

I don't think either had any idea what they were doing...
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.


So ISIS is no "blunder"?

A whole country is laying in ruins man...
 
For Bush, it was what was wanted due to the collapse of two buildings and why Hillary voted for it. You can't use hindsite to lead.

Obama knew pulling out of Iraq would create ISIS, he went all in on that.


So Bush was stupid, he couldn't see the results of his actions,
but Obama was so smart, he knew what would going to happen before it happened.

I don't think either had any idea what they were doing...
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.


So ISIS is no "blunder"?

A whole country is laying in ruins man...

Not our country !

Fuck, 10 years and bazillions of dollars and thousands dead ain't enough ?
 
one of ISIS' roots is in Iraq, you can not separate it from Bush's invasion. iraq is lying in ruins, syria is lying in ruins, too. libya, as well. how do you handle ISIS? what is your suggestion. Bush threw gasoline, dynamite, and WMD (lol) on the middle east. and obama is reaping the "benefits". so, it can never be a tie, even if obama is bumbling along as well. he is in for the ride started by the previous admin.
 
So Bush was stupid, he couldn't see the results of his actions,
but Obama was so smart, he knew what would going to happen before it happened.

I don't think either had any idea what they were doing...
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.


So ISIS is no "blunder"?

A whole country is laying in ruins man...

Not our country !

Fuck, 10 years and bazillions of dollars and thousands dead ain't enough ?

I know it is not your country.

That's why it doesn't make sense for Obama to support any of the sides and provoke a fight between, does it?
 
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.


So ISIS is no "blunder"?

A whole country is laying in ruins man...

Not our country !

Fuck, 10 years and bazillions of dollars and thousands dead ain't enough ?

I know it is not your country.

That's why it doesn't make sense for Obama to support any of the sides and provoke a fight between, does it?
Obama is on iran's side...
 
obama knew that it was a colossal blunder to invade iraq.

Transcript: Obama's Speech Against The Iraq War

that is a major point why he won the primary vs. clinton.

and that is why this is bush's fault.

Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.


So ISIS is no "blunder"?

A whole country is laying in ruins man...

Not our country !

Fuck, 10 years and bazillions of dollars and thousands dead ain't enough ?

I know it is not your country.

That's why it doesn't make sense for Obama to support any of the sides and provoke a fight between, does it?

I don't mind helping . But the Mid East needs Mid East countries to get shit under control.

We've been suckers for too long . Putting up the fight while the others sit back and let Americans die to improve their region .

Saudi Arabia I'm lookking at you!
 
one of ISIS' roots is in Iraq, you can not separate it from Bush's invasion. iraq is lying in ruins, syria is lying in ruins, too. libya, as well. how do you handle ISIS? what is your suggestion. Bush threw gasoline, dynamite, and WMD (lol) on the middle east. and obama is reaping the "benefits". so, it can never be a tie, even if obama is bumbling along as well. he is in for the ride started by the previous admin.


I agree, ISIS roots from Iraq.

But who fed the monster? Obama...

I still remember, Turkish president Erdogan sob calling the sunnis to arms, after speaking to Obama and getting his approval for sending weapons and training them.
Now they are all ISIS...

You can't differentiate Syria from Iraq, I agree. Both Bush and Obama failed with their mid east policies, thats the fact...
 
Talking about arming the ISIS there

Iraq on Bush
ISIS on Obama

A tie...
really? you put ISIS on Obama and put the same weight on it as on the Bush-Iraq blunder, no.


So ISIS is no "blunder"?

A whole country is laying in ruins man...

Not our country !

Fuck, 10 years and bazillions of dollars and thousands dead ain't enough ?

I know it is not your country.

That's why it doesn't make sense for Obama to support any of the sides and provoke a fight between, does it?

I don't mind helping . But the Mid East needs Mid East countries to get shit under control.

We've been suckers for too long . Putting up the fight while the others sit back and let Americans die to improve their region .

Saudi Arabia I'm lookking at you!


Ya, so helping out the jihadists who are chopping heads of civilians and playing soccer with them and forcing women to slavery and rape is AOK???

Just stop fucking with the secular regimes, and they will sort themselves out, no worries...
 
Gave rise to the terrorism that has existed since civilization rose.
There wasn't terrorism internally under Saddam. And Saddam didn't export terrorism.
And Obama has expanded war efforts. Pulling ground forces out while expanding airstrikes to even more nations is NOT helping to reduce terrorism or all the negative impacts from conducting a war.

It amazes me that so many people can acknowledge that Bush was an idiot for getting us into Iraq and then back Obama's asinine war efforts.
Obama is trying to untangle and disengage from the internal politics of the ME. But at the same time we must destroy these terrorist organizations everywhere we find them. If there is a choice of not losing U.S. military lives while doing it, I'm for that. If it results in more civilian deaths I blame that on the terrorists who hide amongst the population and use their own people for human shields.
 

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