Trump says no healthcare vote till after election

[BluesLegend]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet HELLO. God you people on the left are dumb.

And where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that 'Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet'?

My guess is you have none and are just guessing...or worse, slandering.

Wake up stupid, Obama and these idiot politicians have already told you that THEY government will decide if you are worthy of an expensive surgery or you simply get some pain pills to numb yourself while you DIE!

 

[Dragonlady]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet HELLO. God you people on the left are dumb.

Not half as stupid as conservatives, who think that the profit motive will ensure good service. No the profit motive will cause them to pay out as little as possible for your care.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

He is waiting after the election in hope that GOP regains the majority in the House, because without a majority his plan (no matter what it is) has ZERO chance of passing. You little bois are getting your pantys in a bunch over nothing.

Tax those few remaining brain cells you may still have.......

Which would be better:

a. Winning back the House with a CLEAR and VIABLE plan on HC insurance for everybody.......OR

b. Winning back the House with a "promise" that the idiot-in-chief has a plan...and that the plan would be revealed ONLY after his moronic base votes him back in???

Hey, it worked for Pelosi when she told your congress to vote for it and then she’ll tell you what’s in it. I guess you are fresh out of brain cells not to see the similarities.......

 

[Claudette]

There are places to buy insurance where you live. Hell you get flyer for health care in the mail all the time.

And all I need to know about health insurance is that I have it and I pay for it.

I also have Medicare which I've paid for all my working live.

Don't need to know any more than that.

So you like government run healthcare all of the sudden.

Nope but I paid for it so you can bet your stupid ass I'll be using it.

You sure are one dumb bitch.

So if you had it to do all over again, you’d have not paid it and would be fine living the rest of your hopeless pathetic life with only the insurance you can pay for out of your meager savings?

Your point is moot since Medicare is here to stay.

Oh and I have plenty of "meager" savings.

I'll never want for anything. How bout you??

So which is it. Do you like government run healthcare (which is what Medicare is) or not? You seem confused when your master hasn’t told you how to feel. Could be dementia kicking in.

I have no problem with Medicare since I pay for mine. If you don't pay into it you don't get it. Nothing socialist about that.

Medicare is totally socialist.

Oh and no one is my master though I'd bet Barry was yours.

No dementia here though stupidity seems to be your forte.

 

[candycorn]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet HELLO. God you people on the left are dumb.

Trump is a government employee...so you are right for once.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

You're not a bright one. 80 Cents of EVERY dollar collected goes to paying claims. That means the Companies have 20 cents to pay their bills with.

 

[Dragonlady]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

You're not a bright one. 80 Cents of EVERY dollar collected goes to paying claims. That means the Companies have 20 cents to pay their bills with.

Here's where Americans are stupid. The insurance companies keep 20% of your premiums. That 20 cents out of every health care dollar that isn't spent on your healthcare. So if your premiums are $10,000, the insurer is only spending $8,000 on care. The doctor has to hire someone to get insurance company pre-approvals. I have an American nurse friend whose only job it is to get insurance company pre-approvals for treatment. Her entire job and salary are a waste of your money.

Then there's the 3rd party billing companies, who doctors have to hire and pay to do their billings and collections. The largest department in American hospitals is the billing department. Hundreds of insurance companies all with differing paperwork.

American spend in excess of 30% of every healthcare dollar on administration. 20% to the insurance companies, and even more to satisfy their requirements before you get ANY treatment. Countries with single payer, spend less than 10%. In Canada, it's 7%, but some European countries I've seen at 5%.

 

[BluesLegend]

Not half as stupid as conservatives, who think that the profit motive will ensure good service. No the profit motive will cause them to pay out as little as possible for your care.

^^^ this is what I'm talking about. You stupid shits ASSUME doctors and nurses are ripping you off. That hospitals and health systems are making money hand over fist. That you can just cut costs and reimbursements 50% without consequence. You oppose any attempts at stopping ambulance chasing lawyers from preying on the healthcare industry. In summary you people are IGNORANT and must be stopped from wrecking our healthcare system.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump is a government employee...so you are right for once.

Your posts are a waste of internet bandwidth.

 

[BluesLegend]

The doctor has to hire someone to get insurance company pre-approvals. I have an American nurse friend whose only job it is to get insurance company pre-approvals for treatment.

Government run Medicare doesn't require pre-approvals? Oh wait, it does.

 

[candycorn]

Trump is a government employee...so you are right for once.

Your posts are a waste of internet bandwidth.

You’re a waste of oxygen

 

[dblack]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment?

I prefer an individual policy where I deal with my doctor directly and file claims with the insurance company afterward.
But, if I had to choose - yes, I'd rather deal with an insurance company owned privately than with one owned by the government. Because I can fire a private insurance company. If government takes over, Trump will be in charge of my health care and there's nothing I can do about it - short of cast a measly vote once every four years.

 

[dblack]

Every Health related policy in the US must comply with Federal ACA standards and State specific standards OKd by the Feds.
This actually places our entire current system under governmental control.

Yep. That's the problem alright.

 

[dblack]

In effect, Medicare is run by the same rules as any other Health Insurance entity.

It's run by the same companies too.

 

[debbiedowner]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet HELLO. God you people on the left are dumb.

No you're pretty damn dumb you don't even know what she is talking about. Pre-auths have been around damn near forever and it's not be govt employee's. Do you even know where you're at most of the time?

 

[debbiedowner]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet HELLO. God you people on the left are dumb.

And where is your link to unbiased, factual proof that 'Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet'?

My guess is you have none and are just guessing...or worse, slandering.

Wake up stupid, Obama and these idiot politicians have already told you that THEY government will decide if you are worthy of an expensive surgery or you simply get some pain pills to numb yourself while you DIE!

Goddamn get out of this conversation.

 

[jasonnfree]

What I don't like about private corporations' involvement in health care is that they need to take their huge cut so their head guys can take multimillion dollar retirement packages in addition to huge salaries. There should be no profit motive in health care beyond making sure that the doctors, nurses, and other employees are well compensated.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

You're not a bright one. 80 Cents of EVERY dollar collected goes to paying claims. That means the Companies have 20 cents to pay their bills with.

Here's where Americans are stupid. The insurance companies keep 20% of your premiums. That 20 cents out of every health care dollar that isn't spent on your healthcare. So if your premiums are $10,000, the insurer is only spending $8,000 on care. The doctor has to hire someone to get insurance company pre-approvals. I have an American nurse friend whose only job it is to get insurance company pre-approvals for treatment. Her entire job and salary are a waste of your money.

Then there's the 3rd party billing companies, who doctors have to hire and pay to do their billings and collections. The largest department in American hospitals is the billing department. Hundreds of insurance companies all with differing paperwork.

American spend in excess of 30% of every healthcare dollar on administration. 20% to the insurance companies, and even more to satisfy their requirements before you get ANY treatment. Countries with single payer, spend less than 10%. In Canada, it's 7%, but some European countries I've seen at 5%.

Here's how people like you are stupid. But for the 20% how do they pay their expenses? I'm not going to ask because I know that you really are that stupid.

 

[Fang]

Holy shit. Just drop it, Mr. President.

Reserve the "holy shit" for the idiot Republicans who voted to repeal Obamacare but never had a plan to replace it. This is not Trump's fault. Trump showed Republicans how to win, but they can't seem to take advantage. Trump is moving forward but the establishment Republicans can't keep up.

DRAIN THE SWAMP

That comment wasn't just aimed at Democrats.

 

[BluesLegend]

Okay a show of hands, how many of you stupid fucks want government to run your health insurance and government not your doctor making healthcare decisions? Nobody with a brain right, thank you.

You prefer the insurance company to tell your doctor what they will and will not pay for in your treatment? Because that's what happening now with pre-approvals required. All the back and forthing between your doctor and the insurance company adds to the cost of the insurance and the cost of your health care, and it's not helping you get well, it's helping the insurance company preserve their profit margins.

Government employees and bureaucracies are some of the stupidest people on the planet HELLO. God you people on the left are dumb.

No you're pretty damn dumb you don't even know what she is talking about. Pre-auths have been around damn near forever and it's not be govt employee's. Do you even know where you're at most of the time?

I work in the healthcare industry dummy. Why don't you educate yourself on ICD-10 codes and how it blew all out of proportion thanks to government.