Trump's New York Hush-Money Case Will Start March 25. It's The First Criminal Trials.

[kyzr]

SCOTUS opined nothing of the sort.

Trump can use his own money any way he wants to. Its free speech.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

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[Arlette]

Law Professor Jonathan Turley said the Bragg case is Bullshit.

‘Very Odd’: Turley Explains Why What Alvin Bragg Is Doing Falls In Unchartered Territory

Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley explained Thursday why what Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is doing is wading into uncharted territory.

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“I think it is ridiculous,” Turley said. “[Bragg] is trying too hard. There comes a point when you try too hard and this is that point that what Bragg is doing is bootstrapping of an alleged federal crime and converting it into a state prosecution. That’s a crime that the Department of Justice did not find grounds to prosecute.

Bullshit? Cohen did time over this "bullshit"

 

[kyzr]

What part of It Is Against New York State Law To Make Hush Money Payments fails to penetrate vast and vacuous between your ears?

The USSC said Trump can use his own money any way he wants to. Its free speech.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

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[rightwinger]

Trump is not in legal trouble. He used his own money. The DOJ and FEC declined to prosecute.

“I think it is ridiculous,” Turley said. “[Bragg] is trying too hard. There comes a point when you try too hard and this is that point that what Bragg is doing is bootstrapping of an alleged federal crime and converting it into a state prosecution. That’s a crime that the Department of Justice did not find grounds to prosecute.

As usual Trump makes poor decisions

Banging a porn star while your wife is home with your infant son is a poor decision….but not illegal

Paying her to be quiet is another poor decision…..but not illegal

However paying for that bribe by hiding it as a business expense is a bad decision and is illegal

 

[kyzr]

Bullshit? Cohen did time over this "bullshit"

Cohen didn't use his own money.

 

[playtime]

Man, after 9 years of popcorn you must be a bloated pig.

Not surprising I guess.

actually popcorn with a little sea salt is very low in calories.

wish you could say the same about yer orange bag of trans fat leader's diet.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Arlette]

Cohen didn't use his own money.

Right right. David Dennison did
lol

 

[rightwinger]

Trump can use his own money any way he wants to. Its free speech.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

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If only he had done that

But he wanted to hide the payment

 

[0311]

The USSC said Trump can use his own money any way he wants to. Its free speech.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

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Against New York State Law. You are getting boring.

 

[kyzr]

As usual Trump makes poor decisions
Banging a porn star while your wife is home with your infant son is a poor decision….but not illegal
Paying her to be quiet is another poor decision…..but not illegal
However paying for that bribe by hiding it as a business expense is a bad decision and is illegal

You may be right, but that's not how the charges have been described. I keep hearing "illegal hush money payments" not an illegal business expense or some kind of tax code violation, that would probably only be a small fine.
Bragg is trying to make an election mountain out of a mole hill, and it won't work.

“I think it is ridiculous,” Turley said. “[Bragg] is trying too hard. There comes a point when you try too hard and this is that point that what Bragg is doing is bootstrapping of an alleged federal crime and converting it into a state prosecution. That’s a crime that the Department of Justice did not find grounds to prosecute.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Trump is not in legal trouble.

Of course not. They are convening a judge and jury because they are bored.

Trump can use his own money any way he wants to. Its free speech.

No. You can't use your money to burn down a house. Election laws can impact.

 

[kyzr]

Against New York State Law. You are getting boring.

If you want to debate put up your state law.

Turley says you and Bragg are full of shit.

“I think it is ridiculous,” Turley said. “[Bragg] is trying too hard. There comes a point when you try too hard and this is that point that what Bragg is doing is bootstrapping of an alleged federal crime and converting it into a state prosecution. That’s a crime that the Department of Justice did not find grounds to prosecute.

 

[0311]

The USSC said Trump can use his own money any way he wants to. Its free speech.

Citizens United v. FEC - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Actually it was Michael Cohen's money. P01135809 reembursed him for making the payments. That would be third party transaction in furtherance of criminal conspiracy. Said conspiracy being preventing Stephanie Clifford and Karen McDougal from talking about their affairs with P01135809. P01135809 wanted their silence because if they had talked, it would have tanked his campaign.

 

[playtime]

You may be right, but that's not how the charges have been described. I keep hearing "illegal hush money payments" not an illegal business expense or some kind of tax code violation, that would probably only be a small fine.
Bragg is trying to make an election mountain out of a mole hill, and it won't work.

“I think it is ridiculous,” Turley said. “[Bragg] is trying too hard. There comes a point when you try too hard and this is that point that what Bragg is doing is bootstrapping of an alleged federal crime and converting it into a state prosecution. That’s a crime that the Department of Justice did not find grounds to prosecute.

Potential charge: Bookkeeping fraud​

The New York Times has reported that the case may include a potential charge of falsifying business records under Article 175 of the New York Penal Law. A conviction for a felony version of bookkeeping fraud carries a sentence of up to four years.

To prove that Mr. Trump committed that offense, prosecutors would seemingly need evidence showing that he had knowingly caused subordinates to make a false entry in his company’s records “with intent to defraud.” For the action to be a felony rather than a misdemeanor, prosecutors would also need to show that Mr. Trump falsified the business records with the intention of committing, aiding or concealing a second crime.

Bookkeeping fraud has a two-year statute of limitations as a misdemeanor and a five-year one as a felony, both of which would normally have expired for payments made to Mr. Cohen in 2017. But New York law extends those limits to cover periods when a defendant was continuously out of state, as Mr. Trump was while living in the White House or at his home in Florida. In addition, during the pandemic, New York’s statute of limitations was extended by more than a year.
Dissecting Charges That Could Arise From the Trump Investigations


S 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

 

[rightwinger]

You may be right, but that's not how the charges have been described. I keep hearing "illegal hush money payments" not an illegal business expense or some kind of tax code violation, that would probably only be a small fine.
Bragg is trying to make an election mountain out of a mole hill, and it won't work.

“I think it is ridiculous,” Turley said. “[Bragg] is trying too hard. There comes a point when you try too hard and this is that point that what Bragg is doing is bootstrapping of an alleged federal crime and converting it into a state prosecution. That’s a crime that the Department of Justice did not find grounds to prosecute.

Easy Peasy

All Trump needs to do is show where the money came from

 

[rightwinger]

illegal business expense or some kind of tax code violation, that would probably only be a small fine.

I agree

I doubt Trump would face jail time on this as a first time offender. Even though Cohen went to jail for his role.


But he would have a felony conviction

 

[Arlette]

Actually it was Michael Cohen's money. P01135809 reembursed him for making the payments. That would be third party transaction in furtherance of criminal conspiracy. Said conspiracy being preventing Clifford Clifford and Karen McDougal from talking about their affairs with P01135809. P01135809 wanted their silence because if they had talked, it would have tanked his campaign.

That's so funny. Knowing now how MAGAs are, they wouldn't have cared about Daniels and the others any more than they cared about the pussy grabbing. And now his ass is on the line.

 

[g5000]

It's like watching toddlers throw spaghetti at the wall amidst an endless hissy fit.

I think you mean ketchup.

 

[g5000]

Trump can do whatever he wants to with his own money, the Election Commission already said so.

Donald Trump's Legal Problems Over Stormy Daniels End as FEC Closes Probe

Trump initially denied knowing about the payment but later called it "a simple private transaction."

www.newsweek.com

Nope. It was a tie vote, with one Democrat absent, and one Republican recusing. Tie goes to the defendant.