Trump's war on voter fraud

[Seawytch]

Trump's war on voter fraud

Ironic thread title is ironic. This is the klown who still babbles incoherently about "three million illegals voted". And then paid out 25 million bucks to make a fraud case go away before the Electrical College could meet.

He's in no way qualified to even pronounce "voter fraud".

How many illegal aliens do you think voted?

I know leftists well enough to understand that they're extremely organized and don't mind breaking the rules to get what they want. In the city where I live, the voting places are always staffed by sassy black women, smug Hispanic ladies or pimple faced white girls with purple hair and facial piercings. Theres zero doubt in my mind that they bus people around to vote multiple times and don't care if they're illegal immigrants.

Nothing is stopping you from being a poll-worker, douchebag.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Trump's war on voter fraud

Ironic thread title is ironic. This is the klown who still babbles incoherently about "three million illegals voted". And then paid out 25 million bucks to make a fraud case go away before the Electrical College could meet.

He's in no way qualified to even pronounce "voter fraud".

How many illegal aliens do you think voted?

I know leftists well enough to understand that they're extremely organized and don't mind breaking the rules to get what they want. In the city where I live, the voting places are always staffed by sassy black women, smug Hispanic ladies or pimple faced white girls with purple hair and facial piercings. Theres zero doubt in my mind that they bus people around to vote multiple times and don't care if they're illegal immigrants.

All the voting places around me are stuffed full of old people that openly speak their "conservative" language. And they allow the evangelicals to loiter outside. Maybe because we vote in a church, hmmmmmm!

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Resisting election integrity
Voter fraud likely in California, Maryland

“I find this request for the personal information of millions of Marylanders repugnant,” said Maryland Attorney General Brian E. Frosh in a statement. “It appears designed only to intimidate voters and to indulge President Trump’s fantasy that he won the popular vote. Repeating incessantly a false story of expansive voter fraud, and then creating a commission to rule that narrative, does not make it any more true.”



The Trump Administration can’t be trusted with the security of that much private data in one place.

The Democrats are against Voting Rights and that is why they block Voter ID laws that prevent Voter Fraud.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

 

[rshermn]

In 2016 political analysts and pollsters overwhelmingly predicted that Donald Trump would lose the presidential election. He won. Not only did he win, his party won too. The Republicans opened up such a huge can of whoop ass on the Democrats at the state level that the vast majority state governments are now controlled by Republicans.

The 2016 election was such a huge win for the Republicans that Democrats across America were bawling like little kids who just saw their puppy get run over by a locomotive.

After taking office Trump quickly convened a bipartisan panel to investigate voter fraud in the election. Because of the massive amount of money at stake, all reasonably intelligent Americans know that voter fraud occurs in our elections, however, it is very difficult to estimate how many votes are fraudulent without a thorough investigation of the matter.

The 306-232 electoral vote belies what a competitive race we actually had in 2016. Trump won by razor-thin margins in a few key swing states. Had they swung the other way, Clinton would have won the election. That's why it is very suspicious that so many Democrats viciously opposed rather than eagerly supported an investigation that may have shown that Trump's election was illegitimate. They lost, so they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by a voter fraud investigation. What do they fear?



After that investigation went as far as it could due to Democrat stonewalling, the president referred it to the Department of Homeland Security. IMO, the media in America has negligently failed to acknowledge what an amazingly historical action Trump has taken. No other president in American history has ever opened an investigation regarding an election that they won.

Actually, Trump's selfless actions may be unprecedented in the known history of the world. Can any of my fellow history buffs out there think of some other country's leader who challenged the veracity of their own election?

Here is the problem, me lying tool. The great testing of the vote results by the "trump team" was done through voting precinct employees, not democtats. So, lye number one by you is that dems interfered. They did not, because they can not. Dipshit.
Second, the results were negative. No errors were found. You lye again. Consider the source below.

"Trump Panel Finds No Voter Fraud
Trump himself said his select Advisory Commission on Election Integrity -- vice-chaired by voter-fraud hard-liner Kris Kobach, Kansas' secretary of state -- had found evidence of widespread voter fraud in records it collected from about 20 states. That's despite multiple academic and independent studies showing the problem of illegal voting is miniscule at worst.

Yet the day after Trump shut down the highly criticized panel last week amid an array of lawsuits, including one filed by a member of the commission itself, court filings show the panel didn't uncover any evidence of fraudulent voting during its 11 months in operation."
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...on-integrity-found-no-evidence-of-voter-fraud

several other reports say the same thing. It was a sham by Trump. A lye by the great llier. And you, as con trolls, wasted my time.

Politifactdid an in depth study of trumps study and his charges. Here is that reportIn his statement,

What do they fear?

I don't think Democrats fear an investigation into voter fraud. I think they see it as largely an asked-and-answered matter, thus a waste of resources that serves no pragmatic election/voting integrity end whatsoever.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

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What do they fear?

I don't think Democrats fear an investigation into voter fraud. I think they see it as largely an asked-and-answered matter, thus a waste of resources that serves no pragmatic election/voting integrity end whatsoever.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

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All of those people are elected officials. It is not surprising that they wouldn't want to challenge the veracity of the elections that put them in office. Before Trump, it is unheard of for an elected official to do that.

This proves that Trump puts America's interests first, even before his own interests.

What this proves is that you are a con troll. You are simply proving that no voter fraud has been found. Period.
The following proves it further, and further proves that trump is a full throated liar and has people working with him trying to prove his allegations with no proof of any kind. That is, this dishonest effort is simply another effort by trump to lie, and by his trump trolls to further his lies:

"In his statement, Trump said there is "substantial evidence of voter fraud." That wasn’t accurate before, and it isn’t accurate now. We rate the statement False."
fore, and it isn’t accurate now. We rate the statement False.
Trump wrong on substantial evidence of voter fraud

 

[rshermn]

Resisting election integrity
Voter fraud likely in California, Maryland

“I find this request for the personal information of millions of Marylanders repugnant,” said Maryland Attorney General Brian E. Frosh in a statement. “It appears designed only to intimidate voters and to indulge President Trump’s fantasy that he won the popular vote. Repeating incessantly a false story of expansive voter fraud, and then creating a commission to rule that narrative, does not make it any more true.”



The Trump Administration can’t be trusted with the security of that much private data in one place.

The Democrats are against Voting Rights and that is why they block Voter ID laws that prevent Voter Fraud.

That would be untrue. But then, what can one expect from a con troll.
Voter id laws are set up by repubs to decrease the number of democrat voters. Because gettin a voter ID is an extra problem for people who work, and do not have such ID's. But election officials tell us, over and over, that voter ID's are not needed and are of no value. And that they cause less voter participation.
So, we can listen to election officials, or to cons pushing efforts to eliminate as many low income voters as possible. My money is on the election officials, as cons lie.

 

[rshermn]

Trump's war on voter fraud

Ironic thread title is ironic. This is the klown who still babbles incoherently about "three million illegals voted". And then paid out 25 million bucks to make a fraud case go away before the Electrical College could meet.

He's in no way qualified to even pronounce "voter fraud".

How many illegal aliens do you think voted?

I know leftists well enough to understand that they're extremely organized and don't mind breaking the rules to get what they want. In the city where I live, the voting places are always staffed by sassy black women, smug Hispanic ladies or pimple faced white girls with purple hair and facial piercings. Theres zero doubt in my mind that they bus people around to vote multiple times and don't care if they're illegal immigrants.

Actually, you have no proof. At all. Just accusations. If what you say is true, post a link to a sourse proving your assertions. If they are true, it should be no problem. Studies of voting integrity are done all the time, looking for organized fraud that you suggest exists. And, all the time, they tell us the trolls like you are simply making up accusations. Lying, that is, me boy. Constantly pushing a conservative myth.
Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Resisting election integrity
Voter fraud likely in California, Maryland

“I find this request for the personal information of millions of Marylanders repugnant,” said Maryland Attorney General Brian E. Frosh in a statement. “It appears designed only to intimidate voters and to indulge President Trump’s fantasy that he won the popular vote. Repeating incessantly a false story of expansive voter fraud, and then creating a commission to rule that narrative, does not make it any more true.”



The Trump Administration can’t be trusted with the security of that much private data in one place.

The Democrats are against Voting Rights and that is why they block Voter ID laws that prevent Voter Fraud.

That would be untrue. But then, what can one expect from a con troll.
Voter id laws are set up by repubs to decrease the number of democrat voters. Because gettin a voter ID is an extra problem for people who work, and do not have such ID's. But election officials tell us, over and over, that voter ID's are not needed and are of no value. And that they cause less voter participation.
So, we can listen to election officials, or to cons pushing efforts to eliminate as many low income voters as possible. My money is on the election officials, as cons lie.

The Democrats are liars and cheaters.
They block Voter ID laws in enable their voter fraud.
Voter Fraud is a Voting Rights violation.
Only someone who is not a citizen or who is voting under an alias would refuse to show their ID.
Mexico requires an ID to vote in their elections.
Kenya requires an ID to vote in their elections.

 

[ChrisL]

The leftists display such fear and resistance over any kind of voter fraud investigations. Hmm.

 

[Slade3200]

In 2016 political analysts and pollsters overwhelmingly predicted that Donald Trump would lose the presidential election. He won. Not only did he win, his party won too. The Republicans opened up such a huge can of whoop ass on the Democrats at the state level that the vast majority state governments are now controlled by Republicans.

The 2016 election was such a huge win for the Republicans that Democrats across America were bawling like little kids who just saw their puppy get run over by a locomotive.

After taking office Trump quickly convened a bipartisan panel to investigate voter fraud in the election. Because of the massive amount of money at stake, all reasonably intelligent Americans know that voter fraud occurs in our elections, however, it is very difficult to estimate how many votes are fraudulent without a thorough investigation of the matter.

The 306-232 electoral vote belies what a competitive race we actually had in 2016. Trump won by razor-thin margins in a few key swing states. Had they swung the other way, Clinton would have won the election. That's why it is very suspicious that so many Democrats viciously opposed rather than eagerly supported an investigation that may have shown that Trump's election was illegitimate. They lost, so they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by a voter fraud investigation. What do they fear?

After that investigation went as far as it could due to Democrat stonewalling, the president referred it to the Department of Homeland Security. IMO, the media in America has negligently failed to acknowledge what an amazingly historical action Trump has taken. No other president in American history has ever opened an investigation regarding an election that they won.

Actually, Trump's selfless actions may be unprecedented in the known history of the world. Can any of my fellow history buffs out there think of some other country's leader who challenged the veracity of their own election?

Haha, great spin job man, you Trumpsters never cease to amaze me. Allow me to get the facts stariaght. Trump lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes, he then claimed that there were 3 million illegal votes cast in the election... hmmm interesting number huh? The Press calls him on his BS because there is NO evidence of that so he started the commission to investigate voter fraud.

Now as far as the commission is concerned. It wasn’t just stonewalled by the democrats, it was opposed by several Republicans. You see, elections are run by the states, Trumps commission was trying to get personal data of voters, which is illegal to release in many states. There were roadblocks everywhere because the whole initiative was a poorly executed ego driven lamb the shamb.

Get it?

 

[Slade3200]

Trump's war on voter fraud

Ironic thread title is ironic. This is the klown who still babbles incoherently about "three million illegals voted". And then paid out 25 million bucks to make a fraud case go away before the Electrical College could meet.

He's in no way qualified to even pronounce "voter fraud".

How many illegal aliens do you think voted?

How many illegal aliens risked deportation by committing a felony to cast one vote? I don’t think many. Unless there was an organized effort rallying a large group to go do it the Risk/Reward is too high for a significant amount of individuals to make that choice

 

[Slade3200]

What do they fear?

I don't think Democrats fear an investigation into voter fraud. I think they see it as largely an asked-and-answered matter, thus a waste of resources that serves no pragmatic election/voting integrity end whatsoever.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

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You win, nice post!

 

[Slade3200]

What do they fear?

I don't think Democrats fear an investigation into voter fraud. I think they see it as largely an asked-and-answered matter, thus a waste of resources that serves no pragmatic election/voting integrity end whatsoever.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

(Source)

What do they fear?

I don't think Democrats fear an investigation into voter fraud. I think they see it as largely an asked-and-answered matter, thus a waste of resources that serves no pragmatic election/voting integrity end whatsoever.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

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All of those people are elected officials. It is not surprising that they wouldn't want to challenge the veracity of the elections that put them in office. Before Trump, it is unheard of for an elected official to do that.

This proves that Trump puts America's interests first, even before his own interests.

That is total BS and you know it. Did you even read what they said in response to the investigation or did you mindlessly scroll past all those comments to make a knee jerk reply?

 

[usmbguest5318]

nice post

Thank you.

 

[rshermn]

Because his fragile ego couldn't stomach the fact he lost the popular vote?

That doesn't explain why the Democrats wouldn't sharpen up their axe and take a swing when Trump stretched out his neck and laid it on the chopping block for them.

They had a chance to fully cooperate and prove that there was more fraudulent votes for Trump than Clinton. Who do you think received more fraudulent votes, and why?

Well, Muhammed, just another fraudulent post by the hard working con troll that you are. If one wants to believe a totally partial source who always has his nose firmly implanted up Trump's ass, then they can believe the lies you post. If they are interested in truth, there are a large number of independent sources that studied the Trump allegations of voter fraud, and his "study" of the fraud that he, and you, lied about. All say the same thing, me con troll. They say there was NO VOTER FRAUD. They say it was a massive lie by Trump, backed up only by tools like yourself. Here is one impartial study of the issue:
"For the record – and I'm sure you're shocked to hear that Trump was altering facts to fit his own reality – some 40 states, many of them deep red, had problems with the level of data the commission requested, which included addresses, birth dates, party affiliation and even the last four digits of Social Security numbers. And that concern was warranted, as the commission displayed a cavalier attitude about protecting the personal information of citizens with whom it was in contact. The whole effort was so shambolic that a commission member wound up suing the commission itself over being excluded from the proceedings.

The more important issue is that the commission's very existence was patently absurd from the beginning. It was born out of Trump's dismay that he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton by nearly 3 million votes, which he baselessly attributed to "millions" of illegal voters casting ballots. By all indications, his precious ego couldn't handle the fact that more people voted against him than for him, just like he couldn't stand that President Barack Obama's inauguration was better attended than his own."
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...-absurd-voter-fraud-commission-met-its-demise

So, there you go, Me boy. You are a well known con troll, constantly pushing conservative lies. And always, it is simple to prove you wrong.

 

[rshermn]

Why do so many idiots think that voter fraud only occurs in other countries?

Also, how many of you think that illegal aliens do not have any motive to vote against Trump?

Ah. But you lie, over and over and over. There was exactly zero voter fraud efforts, but many more efforts by you, the con troll, to lie, saying that voter fraud against trump existed. If only you had any integrity at all.

 

[usmbguest5318]

That is total BS and you know it. Did you even read what they said in response to the investigation or did you mindlessly scroll past all those comments to make a knee jerk reply?

Off-topic:

That is precisely why I didn't dignify his remarks with a response. I mean really, his refutation of the legitimacy of the remarks, experiences and observations of independent researchers, Republicans and Democrats at federal and state levels is but a conspiracy theorist's retort. When I see stuff like that, I know the poster is just sadistically/masochistically looking for argy-bargy entertainment. I'm not giving it to them, but others can if they want to.​

 

[rshermn]

Resisting election integrity
Voter fraud likely in California, Maryland

“I find this request for the personal information of millions of Marylanders repugnant,” said Maryland Attorney General Brian E. Frosh in a statement. “It appears designed only to intimidate voters and to indulge President Trump’s fantasy that he won the popular vote. Repeating incessantly a false story of expansive voter fraud, and then creating a commission to rule that narrative, does not make it any more true.”



The Trump Administration can’t be trusted with the security of that much private data in one place.

The Democrats are against Voting Rights and that is why they block Voter ID laws that prevent Voter Fraud.

me boy, we all wait to show us some proof of voter fraud that we should be worried about. Instead, all impartial evidence is that you are simply lying, and NO VOTER FRAUD EXISTS.

 

[Slade3200]

That is total BS and you know it. Did you even read what they said in response to the investigation or did you mindlessly scroll past all those comments to make a knee jerk reply?

Off-topic:

That is precisely why I didn't dignify his remarks with a response. I mean really, his refutation of the legitimacy of the remarks, experiences and observations of independent researchers, Republicans and Democrats at federal and state levels is but a conspiracy theorist's retort. When I see stuff like that, I know the poster is just sadistically/masochistically looking for argy-bargy entertainment. I'm not giving it to them, but others can if they want to.​

Good observation, I’m on this board mostly for stimulating debate and discussions, however I must admit that I do cross the tracks every once in a while to go after the dishonest trolls. They gotta be called out every once in a while, but you’re right not to engage to deeply with their childish games

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Resisting election integrity
Voter fraud likely in California, Maryland

“I find this request for the personal information of millions of Marylanders repugnant,” said Maryland Attorney General Brian E. Frosh in a statement. “It appears designed only to intimidate voters and to indulge President Trump’s fantasy that he won the popular vote. Repeating incessantly a false story of expansive voter fraud, and then creating a commission to rule that narrative, does not make it any more true.”



The Trump Administration can’t be trusted with the security of that much private data in one place.

The Democrats are against Voting Rights and that is why they block Voter ID laws that prevent Voter Fraud.

me boy, we all wait to show us some proof of voter fraud that we should be worried about. Instead, all impartial evidence is that you are simply lying, and NO VOTER FRAUD EXISTS.

Blocking Voter ID laws makes it very hard to study the Democrat Voter Fraud problem.
That is why they do it.
However there is empirical evidence when there are more votes cast than there are eligible voters in the Democrat congressional districts.
Democrats are against Voting Rights, which is why they block Voter ID laws that protect everyone's Right to Vote.