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Because we are so prone to be distracted and miss our turn these days, both Hombre and I could benefit from a system like this:
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Now come on. No fair saying I'm insulting if I don't like modern music (which I define as most of the stuff produced this century) but you aren't insulting if you say country music is bad?
Seriously I don't intend to insult anybody's tastes in music or anything else. I was just enjoying a conversation about music with the full understanding that everybody doesn't like everything. But if I am coming across as insulting, I'll take the hint and change the subject. Or let somebody else change it. No harm. No foul.
It's not disliking it that I said was insulting, but rather the way you say that. Saying modern music has no melody, is tuneless noise, is like saying it isn't music at all. If you just said, "I don't like modern music" I wouldn't have any problem with it. You've said modern music has no melody many times, though, and made it sound like you don't consider it actually to be music at all, just a collection of noise. I know we have at least one musician who makes a modern style of music on the board in GT and there may well be many more. Anyone who's ever played in a band or written a song has probably had the expectation that some people wouldn't like it, but I don't know if many would expect people to equate their music to any random noise someone might hear.
I've said a few times I think when you say modern music has no melody what you are saying is it's not music you enjoy, but the way you say it seems like more than that. I listen to a bunch of niche music that most people are at best indifferent to, and in many cases hate. It's been many years, but I played in bands making music that many people would dislike. I don't mind someone disliking music, I just think when you say or imply that it isn't even music at all, that's a step too far.
Well......I've heard some music that really pushed the boundaries of being called music.But pop, terrible as it can at times be, is still music.
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Death metal?![]()
Hah! No, I listen to some death metal and have even played a little in the past. The only genre that comes to mind offhand as pushing the music boundaries is grindcore, and even then, it's probably more about the particular band than the genre itself. I was thinking more along the lines of some really out there progressive bands who intentionally push the envelope.![]()
I think we might have this conversation before, IIRC, but anyway, death metal is the one genre of music that I really do not care for. It's not the music that I dislike, but the vocals and lyrics in most cases.
It's not for most.I perfectly understand people not liking death metal. It's intentionally extreme, angry, violent music. There's plenty of death metal I don't like, but I'm good with the genre. Angry and sad are the two emotions I most connect to in my music.
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It's not disliking it that I said was insulting, but rather the way you say that. Saying modern music has no melody, is tuneless noise, is like saying it isn't music at all. If you just said, "I don't like modern music" I wouldn't have any problem with it. You've said modern music has no melody many times, though, and made it sound like you don't consider it actually to be music at all, just a collection of noise. I know we have at least one musician who makes a modern style of music on the board in GT and there may well be many more. Anyone who's ever played in a band or written a song has probably had the expectation that some people wouldn't like it, but I don't know if many would expect people to equate their music to any random noise someone might hear.
I've said a few times I think when you say modern music has no melody what you are saying is it's not music you enjoy, but the way you say it seems like more than that. I listen to a bunch of niche music that most people are at best indifferent to, and in many cases hate. It's been many years, but I played in bands making music that many people would dislike. I don't mind someone disliking music, I just think when you say or imply that it isn't even music at all, that's a step too far.
Well......I've heard some music that really pushed the boundaries of being called music.But pop, terrible as it can at times be, is still music.
![]()
Death metal?![]()
Hah! No, I listen to some death metal and have even played a little in the past. The only genre that comes to mind offhand as pushing the music boundaries is grindcore, and even then, it's probably more about the particular band than the genre itself. I was thinking more along the lines of some really out there progressive bands who intentionally push the envelope.![]()
I think we might have this conversation before, IIRC, but anyway, death metal is the one genre of music that I really do not care for. It's not the music that I dislike, but the vocals and lyrics in most cases.
It's not for most.I perfectly understand people not liking death metal. It's intentionally extreme, angry, violent music. There's plenty of death metal I don't like, but I'm good with the genre. Angry and sad are the two emotions I most connect to in my music.
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I feel the same, and I do listen to some heavy metal and other songs with "questionable" lyrics (most times however, it's not the lyrics that make me like a song). It's more the WAY they "sing" if that's what you would call that "growling" that they do.I just can't get into that. Also, when they talk about things like killing people, devil worship or something else outrageous, etc. . . . that's just a bit too much for me.
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Because we are so prone to be distracted and miss our turn these days, both Hombre and I could benefit from a system like this:
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What's about some oldschool stuff? Bolt Thrower, Obituary, Dismember...Death metal?![]()
Hah! No, I listen to some death metal and have even played a little in the past. The only genre that comes to mind offhand as pushing the music boundaries is grindcore, and even then, it's probably more about the particular band than the genre itself. I was thinking more along the lines of some really out there progressive bands who intentionally push the envelope.![]()
I think we might have this conversation before, IIRC, but anyway, death metal is the one genre of music that I really do not care for. It's not the music that I dislike, but the vocals and lyrics in most cases.
It's not for most.I perfectly understand people not liking death metal. It's intentionally extreme, angry, violent music. There's plenty of death metal I don't like, but I'm good with the genre. Angry and sad are the two emotions I most connect to in my music.
![]()
I feel the same, and I do listen to some heavy metal and other songs with "questionable" lyrics (most times however, it's not the lyrics that make me like a song). It's more the WAY they "sing" if that's what you would call that "growling" that they do.I just can't get into that. Also, when they talk about things like killing people, devil worship or something else outrageous, etc. . . . that's just a bit too much for me.
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Heh, none of it is too much for me. My 2 favorite death metal bands are Cannibal Corpse and Deicide, which fit quite well into the categories of killing people and devil worship respectively.![]()
What's about some oldschool stuff? Bolt Thrower, Obituary, Dismember...Hah! No, I listen to some death metal and have even played a little in the past. The only genre that comes to mind offhand as pushing the music boundaries is grindcore, and even then, it's probably more about the particular band than the genre itself. I was thinking more along the lines of some really out there progressive bands who intentionally push the envelope.![]()
I think we might have this conversation before, IIRC, but anyway, death metal is the one genre of music that I really do not care for. It's not the music that I dislike, but the vocals and lyrics in most cases.
It's not for most.I perfectly understand people not liking death metal. It's intentionally extreme, angry, violent music. There's plenty of death metal I don't like, but I'm good with the genre. Angry and sad are the two emotions I most connect to in my music.
![]()
I feel the same, and I do listen to some heavy metal and other songs with "questionable" lyrics (most times however, it's not the lyrics that make me like a song). It's more the WAY they "sing" if that's what you would call that "growling" that they do.I just can't get into that. Also, when they talk about things like killing people, devil worship or something else outrageous, etc. . . . that's just a bit too much for me.
![]()
Heh, none of it is too much for me. My 2 favorite death metal bands are Cannibal Corpse and Deicide, which fit quite well into the categories of killing people and devil worship respectively.![]()
I used to have #4 done as a framed needlepoint.
I may print the whole thing off and have it framed.I used to have #4 done as a framed needlepoint.
What's about some oldschool stuff? Bolt Thrower, Obituary, Dismember...Hah! No, I listen to some death metal and have even played a little in the past. The only genre that comes to mind offhand as pushing the music boundaries is grindcore, and even then, it's probably more about the particular band than the genre itself. I was thinking more along the lines of some really out there progressive bands who intentionally push the envelope.![]()
I think we might have this conversation before, IIRC, but anyway, death metal is the one genre of music that I really do not care for. It's not the music that I dislike, but the vocals and lyrics in most cases.
It's not for most.I perfectly understand people not liking death metal. It's intentionally extreme, angry, violent music. There's plenty of death metal I don't like, but I'm good with the genre. Angry and sad are the two emotions I most connect to in my music.
![]()
I feel the same, and I do listen to some heavy metal and other songs with "questionable" lyrics (most times however, it's not the lyrics that make me like a song). It's more the WAY they "sing" if that's what you would call that "growling" that they do.I just can't get into that. Also, when they talk about things like killing people, devil worship or something else outrageous, etc. . . . that's just a bit too much for me.
![]()
Heh, none of it is too much for me. My 2 favorite death metal bands are Cannibal Corpse and Deicide, which fit quite well into the categories of killing people and devil worship respectively.![]()