Vatican court head: No communion for Nancy Pelosi

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[QuickHitCurepon]

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I remember when the Catholic Church helped the poor. I guess not anymore. They go after Nancy Pelosi but not Paul Ryan? I don't get it.

I seriously doubt you ever will.

neither should we care for that matter

Pelosi doesn't care.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

When Pelosi and Reid so easily fuck off their own constituents, Nancy is out-of-touch.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Interesting.

I know this has been an on again, off again subject for debate over the years... Should the Catholic Church allow abortion supporters to have communion or not... It seems that the answer has been given... at least for now.

No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head - Washington Times

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has no Catholic right to be granted Communion, said the leading cardinal of the highest court at the Vatican.

Mrs. Pelosi should be denied Communion until she changes her advocacy views on abortion, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said, according to the Western Center for Journalism.

That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”

And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition.

“Certainly this is a case when Canon 915 must be applied,” he said, the Western Center for Journalism reported. “This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion — and still professes to be a devout Catholic.”

The cardinal also said that Mrs. Pelosi is a perfect example of Catholics who separate their faith from day-to-day living.

“This is a prime example of what Blessed John Paul II referred to as the situation of Catholics who have divorced their faith from their public life and therefore are not serving their brothers and sisters in the way that they must — in safeguarding and promoting the life of the innocent and defenseless unborn, in safeguarding and promoting the integrity of marriage and the family,” he said.

The Church cannot deny any sacrament to a supplicant who maintains a given position in good faith.

Moreover, one can both maintain moral opposition to abortion in accordance with Church dogma while at the same time respect the secular rule of law and the Constitutional right to privacy.

The Vatican’s unwarranted meddling demonstrates the wisdom of the Framers and their requirement that church and state remain separate.

The number one topic among voters by a longshot is property rights. Now, how would anyone gain access to church private property, if a church has policy to bar any individual, while enforcing said policy?

 

[Vox]

JFK said it best, when he said that he does not tell the Pope how to run the church, and the Pope doesn't tell him how to run the USA.

so STFU and stop deciding what should or should not the CHURCH court do with a public sinner.

 

[Seawytch]

This wasn't the Pope, it was an American in the Vatican. The Pope has shown that this sort of crap is beneath him. He's concerned with the poor and the downtrodden not whether Nancy Pelosi supports a woman's right to control her own reproduction.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The privilege to receive communion is a church matter. Secular law has no bearing. It's that whole separation of Church & State thing you libs always like to throw around. Guess what, it goes both ways...

I agree with you, and I am sure CCJ does as well.

What you don't get is that Pelosi's ecclesiastical superior in her diocese makes that decision, not Rome.

You don't get how the Church works do you? The Vatican runs things from the center & not usually the local level. Especially when it comes to matters of faith.

The cardinal's opinion in Rome does not trump the religious superior in Pelosi's diocese.

She will not be banned from communion.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

This wasn't the Pope, it was an American in the Vatican. The Pope has shown that this sort of crap is beneath him. He's concerned with the poor and the downtrodden not whether Nancy Pelosi supports a woman's right to control her own reproduction.

It's WAY too soon to make that call.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I agree with you, and I am sure CCJ does as well.

What you don't get is that Pelosi's ecclesiastical superior in her diocese makes that decision, not Rome.

You don't get how the Church works do you? The Vatican runs things from the center & not usually the local level. Especially when it comes to matters of faith.

The cardinal's opinion in Rome does not trump the religious superior in Pelosi's diocese.

She will not be banned from communion.

She's drunk all the time anyhow.

 

[Seawytch]

You don't get how the Church works do you? The Vatican runs things from the center & not usually the local level. Especially when it comes to matters of faith.

The cardinal's opinion in Rome does not trump the religious superior in Pelosi's diocese.

She will not be banned from communion.

She's drunk all the time anyhow.

You're thinking of the wrong speaker...you're thinking of the Boehner if you're talking about the drunk one.

 

[Vox]

This wasn't the Pope, it was an American in the Vatican. The Pope has shown that this sort of crap is beneath him. He's concerned with the poor and the downtrodden not whether Nancy Pelosi supports a woman's right to control her own reproduction.

It's WAY too soon to make that call.

our leftards do not have any idea how the RCC functions

it is just amusing to read their ignorant assumptions.

 

[Seawytch]

This wasn't the Pope, it was an American in the Vatican. The Pope has shown that this sort of crap is beneath him. He's concerned with the poor and the downtrodden not whether Nancy Pelosi supports a woman's right to control her own reproduction.

It's WAY too soon to make that call.

our leftards do not have any idea how the RCC functions

it is just amusing to read their ignorant assumptions.

So you believe that only righttards are Catholic? Have you listened to Pope Frankie at all?

 

[Pogo]

The Church most certainly can since this is a sacramental matter & thus under its pervue. Abortion in the eyes of the Church is an affront to creation & they correctly determined that a person is not worthy of receiving communion if they actively support it. The Church has been making moral judgements like this for over 2000 years. It's what they do.

If abortion is a sin, "support" is not.

Then again there's that inconvenient role of Representative, which renders the cardinal's position moot anyway.

How little do you understand Catholic doctrine (& yes I am Catholic). Support for a sin is a sin & grounds for the Church to make a moral determination. And a persons occupation has little to do with the matter at hand. We are talking about Church rules on a sacramental matter. Pelosi doesn't receive immunity just because of her job.

Oozing steaming Bullshit.

"Support" for an idea is not a sin. Feel free to demonstrate how it is. Because now you're delving into mind control.

Moreover, her job as Representative , as any Rep, is to represent her constituents. That means she speaks for their interests, not necessarily her own.

This is a non starter. It always has been.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

This wasn't the Pope, it was an American in the Vatican. The Pope has shown that this sort of crap is beneath him. He's concerned with the poor and the downtrodden not whether Nancy Pelosi supports a woman's right to control her own reproduction.

My wife is a nanny. One of the children she has now gave a recital for the pope once. If she goes again, I'll have her ask him.

 

[Vox]

It's WAY too soon to make that call.

our leftards do not have any idea how the RCC functions

it is just amusing to read their ignorant assumptions.

So you believe that only righttards are Catholic? Have you listened to Pope Frankie at all?

you obviously never listened or read Pope's interviews otherwise you won't be so ignorant.

but keep dreaming

 

[Vox]

This wasn't the Pope, it was an American in the Vatican. The Pope has shown that this sort of crap is beneath him. He's concerned with the poor and the downtrodden not whether Nancy Pelosi supports a woman's right to control her own reproduction.

My wife is a nanny. One of the children she has now gave a recital for the pope once. If she goes again, I'll have her ask him.

 

[DGS49]

No one in the Church would physically restrain anyone from receiving communion. I would wager that a significant portion of the people receiving communion on any given Sunday are, under the Church's teachings, under the cloud of serious sin, and are thus ineligible to receive Communion. I have not one but two brothers-in-law who go to church twice a year and "faithfully" go to communion each time. And would that missing Mass on Sunday was their only sin. It's probably the least serious thing they are involved in, truth be known.

But Catholics take Communion anyway and priests generally do not make an issue of it unless there is some public display of rejection of Church authority - as is the case with Pelosi.

Pelosi is such a disgusting piece of shit in any event, her being a hypocrite about her religion is relatively inconsequential.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmW19uoyuO8

Mike Wallace: “You are out to destroy almost every edifice of the contemporary American way of life, our Judeo-Christian religion, our modified government regulated capitalism, our rule by majority will. Other reviews have said you scorn churches and the concept of God. Are these accurate criticisms?”

Ayn Rand: “Yes”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9SYodykMJQ

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I remember when the Catholic Church helped the poor. I guess not anymore. They go after Nancy Pelosi but not Paul Ryan? I don't get it.

You went to public schools, didn't you?

Jack Kennedy was an adulterer.

Therefore anyone who admires Jack Kennedy's vision of government is an adulterer.

That's what passes for logic in the hive mind of democrats.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

If abortion is a sin, "support" is not.

Then again there's that inconvenient role of Representative, which renders the cardinal's position moot anyway.

How little do you understand Catholic doctrine (& yes I am Catholic). Support for a sin is a sin & grounds for the Church to make a moral determination. And a persons occupation has little to do with the matter at hand. We are talking about Church rules on a sacramental matter. Pelosi doesn't receive immunity just because of her job.

Oozing steaming Bullshit.

"Support" for an idea is not a sin. Feel free to demonstrate how it is. Because now you're delving into mind control.

Moreover, her job as Representative , as any Rep, is to represent her constituents. That means she speaks for their interests, not necessarily her own.

This is a non starter. It always has been.

No, her job as a representative is to vote her conscience.

Democrats are addled.