Was Trump Wiretapped? Just the facts.

[tycho1572]

According to the magic 8 ball......

 

[Ame®icano]

James Clapper answered it all this morning on Meet The Press --

... there was NO wiretapping of Trump Towers at any time by anyone anywhere on Clapper's watch.

Trump pulled this all out of his azz.

James Clapper says that, in the national intelligence activity he oversaw, “there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president, the president-elect at the time, as a candidate or against his campaign.”

Clapper says as intelligence director he would have known about a “FISA court order on something like this. Absolutely, I can deny it.”

Basically, Clapper who lied to Congress under oath, just went full retard denying everything. A bunch of possibilities if we consider the FISA orders do exist:

1. Clapper is legitimately insane, has no idea what he's doing anymore and just blatantly lied to the press about records Trump could declassify and release any time
2. Obama's DoJ ordered this without Clapper's knowledge, which makes it seem even more suspicious
3. Clapper knew but covering his own ass and trying to throw Obama and Lynch under the bus by pointing to option 2

This is getting more and more interesting.

The Latest: House intel panel to probe Trump wiretap claims

First, don't we need to determine IF it took place at all? Have they found any wiretaps?

There is only one way to find out, right?

By the way, did investigation provided any proof of Russians "hacking our elections" as left claim?

Clapper spoke to that as well and said yes, the Russians clearly hacked the DNC and tried but failed to hack the RNC as well.

Hacking DNC is not "hacking the elections".

By the way, it was DNC leaks, not hacks.

 

[Coyote]

Why is the left so quick to dismiss FISA court requests as credible evidence?

What constitutes "credible"?

At this point there are no FISA court requests. There are only claims - coming from one British journalist, that there were FISA requests made. There is no independent verification of it, of what the requests contained or anything. Nothing as been released by Trump, or anyone else. So you have one point of reference only and no supporting evidence.

Is that credible?

 

[Pop23]

No spin. No smoke and mirrors. No conjecture. Was he wire tapped? If that can't be answered everything else is Conspiracy Theory material of attempting to create links between unrelated incidents.

At this point, it see - the whole wire-tap claim is unsubstantiated and taking on the guise of a conspiracy theory.

From: Analysis | Donald Trump was a conspiracy-theory candidate. Now he’s on the edge of being a conspiracy-theory president.

The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.


The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.


It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.​

From the LA Times: Citing no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones during the election

It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests. By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.


If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts. Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.


It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles. ​

There is a lot of smoke, mirrors and redirection going on here, an attempt I'm sure, to distract from the demands for an investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign.

Rather than blowing this up into a full blown conspiracy theory, how about looking at actual evidence?

First question to answer is: is there any hard evidence that Trump Tower was indeed wire tapped? If we can't answer that, the rest is meaningless distraction.

From the Washington Post: Analysis | Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Brietbart article on FISA Requests: June & October. Breitbart based it's article entirely on one source: and article written by Louise Mensch, a former Tory member of the British Parliament and an independent journalist for Heat Street. But no one seems to be able to independently confirm the claim.

The Washington Post for months has sought to confirm this report of a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign but has been unable to do so. Presumably other U.S. news organizations have tried to do so as well. So one has to take this claim with a huge dose of skepticism. Indeed, the New York Times reported before the election that the FBI “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts” with the Russian banks.​

According to the WP article:

The White House provided three other sources. Two, a National Review article and a Fox News interview, are simply derivative of the Heat Street article, with no independent confirmation. The third is a New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides. (We recall the president has previously deemed Times reporting on this matter as “fake news.”)​

The article goes on to conclude:

Only two articles, both with British roots, have reported that a FISA court order was granted in October to examine possible activity between two Russian banks and a computer server in the Trump Tower. This claim has not been confirmed by a U.S. news organizations. Moreover, neither article says President Obama requested the order or that it resulted in the tapping of Trump’s phone lines.​

And lastly:

Moreover, the articles do not support the White House’s claim that these were “potentially politically motivated investigations” led by President Obama. The articles all suggest the FISA requests — if they happened — were done by the intelligence agencies and the FBI.​

So, before we have this huge political uproar, and immediate comparisons to Watergate, lets' get at the facts first. Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Was Trump wiretapped? If yes - what evidence? Were bugs found in Trump Tower?

2. Were FISA requests issued? If yes - can the claims be confirmed by more then one source and for what specifically were they for?

Until those are answered - there's nothing but smoke.

Funny how none of these concerns stopped you left wingers from accusing Trump from colluding with the Russians...though every single story on it had it buried deep in the story...that there was absolutely no evidence to support the allegation......

Funny how all of a sudden you want evidence before you believe this stuff...

It is what using unnamed anonymous sources creates. Untrustworthiness.

To use one as believable, one must trust all.

It is self defeating when the shoe is put on the other foot.

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

Trump got his news from Breitbart.

Dumb stupid inept old man.

Somebody needs to take away his cell phone so he can't tweet anymore.

Okay, I'm going to say it: Somebody needs to take the White House away from him.

President Trump needs to be told to stop Tweeting about certain things.

The way to have done this, if they have evidence that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped, they should have organised a press conference and at the press conference dropped the bomb in the form of the declassified information showing that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped.

The way not to do this was for President Trump to just Tweet this without ordering the declassified information to be publicly released within the next few days.

The way to have done this get an indictment after an investigation. The press release should only announce the beginning of the investigation.

 

[yiostheoy]

Trump got his news from Breitbart.

Dumb stupid inept old man.

Somebody needs to take away his cell phone so he can't tweet anymore.

Okay, I'm going to say it: Somebody needs to take the White House away from him.

President Trump needs to be told to stop Tweeting about certain things.

The way to have done this, if they have evidence that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped, they should have organised a press conference and at the press conference dropped the bomb in the form of the declassified information showing that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped.

The way not to do this was for President Trump to just Tweet this without ordering the declassified information to be publicly released within the next few days.

Actually, the way it should have been done is - if there was merit to it, get it investigated by the appropriate agencies first. You don't handle these things through the media other than a brief statement by the investigating officials.

Nobody wiretapped Trump Towers. Trump pulled that out of his azz.

There was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. The DEMs have pulled that out of their own azz.

There is no need for an investigation, however Collins and Rubio are going to investigate to make the DEM's happy.

Schumer wants a special prosecutor even though there have been no crimes and no evidence of crimes. He is just being a bastard gadfly. Same as McConnell and Boehner were bastard gadflies to BHO for 8 years.

It's just payback time.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Trump got his news from Breitbart.

Dumb stupid inept old man.

Somebody needs to take away his cell phone so he can't tweet anymore.

Okay, I'm going to say it: Somebody needs to take the White House away from him.

President Trump needs to be told to stop Tweeting about certain things.

The way to have done this, if they have evidence that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped, they should have organised a press conference and at the press conference dropped the bomb in the form of the declassified information showing that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped.

The way not to do this was for President Trump to just Tweet this without ordering the declassified information to be publicly released within the next few days.

Actually, the way it should have been done is - if there was merit to it, get it investigated by the appropriate agencies first. You don't handle these things through the media other than a brief statement by the investigating officials.

Well that hasn't stopped the anti-Trump crowd including the MSM from 24/7 for months saying that Trump is an Agent of Putin, they have not waited for any investigation to be completed.

They are condemning a man that they despise and privately hope that someone assassinates him and blows his head off live on television so they can all masturbate to the footage ALL because they were PROMISED that Trump couldn't win and that Hillary WOULD win....and then Trump did win and it's driven them into the realms of borderline insanity and the sort of visceral and organic hatred for a person that only actual Demons are meant to possess.

 

[Coyote]

No spin. No smoke and mirrors. No conjecture. Was he wire tapped? If that can't be answered everything else is Conspiracy Theory material of attempting to create links between unrelated incidents.

At this point, it see - the whole wire-tap claim is unsubstantiated and taking on the guise of a conspiracy theory.

From: Analysis | Donald Trump was a conspiracy-theory candidate. Now he’s on the edge of being a conspiracy-theory president.

The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.


The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.


It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.​

From the LA Times: Citing no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones during the election

It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests. By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.


If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts. Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.


It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles. ​

There is a lot of smoke, mirrors and redirection going on here, an attempt I'm sure, to distract from the demands for an investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign.

Rather than blowing this up into a full blown conspiracy theory, how about looking at actual evidence?

First question to answer is: is there any hard evidence that Trump Tower was indeed wire tapped? If we can't answer that, the rest is meaningless distraction.

From the Washington Post: Analysis | Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Brietbart article on FISA Requests: June & October. Breitbart based it's article entirely on one source: and article written by Louise Mensch, a former Tory member of the British Parliament and an independent journalist for Heat Street. But no one seems to be able to independently confirm the claim.

The Washington Post for months has sought to confirm this report of a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign but has been unable to do so. Presumably other U.S. news organizations have tried to do so as well. So one has to take this claim with a huge dose of skepticism. Indeed, the New York Times reported before the election that the FBI “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts” with the Russian banks.​

According to the WP article:

The White House provided three other sources. Two, a National Review article and a Fox News interview, are simply derivative of the Heat Street article, with no independent confirmation. The third is a New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides. (We recall the president has previously deemed Times reporting on this matter as “fake news.”)​

The article goes on to conclude:

Only two articles, both with British roots, have reported that a FISA court order was granted in October to examine possible activity between two Russian banks and a computer server in the Trump Tower. This claim has not been confirmed by a U.S. news organizations. Moreover, neither article says President Obama requested the order or that it resulted in the tapping of Trump’s phone lines.​

And lastly:

Moreover, the articles do not support the White House’s claim that these were “potentially politically motivated investigations” led by President Obama. The articles all suggest the FISA requests — if they happened — were done by the intelligence agencies and the FBI.​

So, before we have this huge political uproar, and immediate comparisons to Watergate, lets' get at the facts first. Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Was Trump wiretapped? If yes - what evidence? Were bugs found in Trump Tower?

2. Were FISA requests issued? If yes - can the claims be confirmed by more then one source and for what specifically were they for?

Until those are answered - there's nothing but smoke.

Funny how none of these concerns stopped you left wingers from accusing Trump from colluding with the Russians...though every single story on it had it buried deep in the story...that there was absolutely no evidence to support the allegation......

Funny how all of a sudden you want evidence before you believe this stuff...

It is what using unnamed anonymous sources creates. Untrustworthiness.

To use one as believable, one must trust all.

It is self defeating when the shoe is put on the other foot.

If that is the only source, it's always good to take it with a grain of salt and look for more evidence.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh the NSA would never ever spy on an American citizen.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Yeah, the hypocrisy is blatant. The headlines about 'the Russians did it' without any evidence is to be interpreted somewhere within the articles on it and any story about Trump allegations of wiretapping, the lack of evidence is part of the headline & main story line. What a fricken crock.

Even though I wasn't impressed with Rubio, I will give him credit for this......even though the writer leaves a lot to the imagination as to who should be investigated and for what....(Trump for his accusations, or Obama for the possibility of doing it).......

Rubio: White House 'Will Have to Answer' to Wiretapping Claims

WASHINGTON — Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio flew down to Florida with President Donald Trump one day before the president claimed in a series of tweets Saturday that former President Barack Obama wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower prior to the election.

Rubio told host Chuck Todd on Sunday's "Meet The Press" that he has "no insight" into what the president was referring to or what his motivation was for sending the tweets.

A senior U.S. official told NBC News that he and others do not know what the president was referring to when he alleged that Obama ordered a wiretap of communications at Trump Tower.

"Suffice it to say I don't have any basis, I've never heard that allegation made before by anybody," Rubio said. "I've never seen anything about that anywhere before. But again, the president put that out there, and now the White House will have to answer as to exactly what he was referring to."

Rubio, a member of the Select Committee on Intelligence, also maintained that he's confident in the committee's ability to conduct a fair inquiry into Russia's activities to influence the last election and that a special prosecutor isn't yet necessary.

"Not now," Rubio said. "I certainly don't think we are at this point at this moment."

The senator added that he "would be the first person to tell you" and not sign his name if he did not have strong faith in the committee's report.

"No one is there looking for a political angle," he said, declaring that members understand that "the credibility of the committee is on the line."

Responding to a question about whether President Trump's use of the word "witch hunt" to describe questions about his administration's links to Russia is fair, Rubio told Chuck Todd that the president has every right to defend himself.

"He obviously feels very strongly," Rubio said. "He has been accused of things that he hasn't done."

 

[yiostheoy]

So far there is no evidence indicating any such thing.

Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates

"intercepted communications"

Newspaper articles are not "evidence".

Evidence is hard proof (Like a video recording or a voice recording of a phone conversation), not speculation based upon unsubstantiated opinion.

I suppose you would ask for the evidence, (like a video recording or a voice recording) about Trump's Russian connection. Oh, no evidence needed in that case...

Why would I do that? I don't think there is a "connection" between Trump and Russia. However, if there were, I in fact, WOULD demand evidence.

Do we agree that just because something is published it's not necessary a truth?

And I would add, based on their track record, most that comes from MSM cannot be taken for granted and most likely is mislead and often a lie.

It is becoming abundantly clear that CNN, MSNBC, NYT and Breitbart are all junk news -- just a big load of crap.

 

[2aguy]

The Trump Administration needs to declassify the evidence and release it, if they have seen the evidence that Obama ordered Trump Tower to be wiretapped, then they need to publicly release the evidence of this.

Again I'll ask... if there is classified evidence then wouldn't trump tweeting about it be a crime? If not then please explain how

No....the President gets to make the decision as to what is or isn't classified.....

Really? Is that true

He is the top guy...it is his call....

Wow, your right, I thought there would some kind of a process but I guess it's at the discretion of POTUS. So next step would be for him to show the wire tap evidence and put this thing to bed. From listening to the WH surrogates this morning trying to spin his tweet into an "if" situation based on a news report, I'm guessing we aren't going to see any evidence. It's all bait to distract the puppets. Very transparent

actually......the news from the New York Times and other left wing news sources have all claimed that the information they have been using on the Trump/Russia story came from wire taps........this was before any allegations of obama wire tapping Trump....

DeepStateGate: Democrats' Russia Conspiracy Theory Backfires

Levin’s claims, reported at Breitbart News early Friday, were in turn based on information largely from mainstream outlets, including the New York Times and the Washington Post. Heat Street was one non-mainstream source, but the BBC also reported similar information in January. So, too, did the UK Guardian, which is a mainstream source (albeit with a decidedly left-wing slant, hardly favorable to Trump).

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In addition, there is reason to doubt the claim that the White House never “interfered”: the New York Times reported in January that “intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.”

 

[yiostheoy]

Why is the left so quick to dismiss FISA court requests as credible evidence?

James Clapper said there were NO FISA requests.

 

[Ame®icano]

Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates

"intercepted communications"

Newspaper articles are not "evidence".

Evidence is hard proof (Like a video recording or a voice recording of a phone conversation), not speculation based upon unsubstantiated opinion.

I suppose you would ask for the evidence, (like a video recording or a voice recording) about Trump's Russian connection. Oh, no evidence needed in that case...

Why would I do that? I don't think there is a "connection" between Trump and Russia. However, if there were, I in fact, WOULD demand evidence.

Do we agree that just because something is published it's not necessary a truth?

And I would add, based on their track record, most that comes from MSM cannot be taken for granted and most likely is mislead and often a lie.

It is becoming abundantly clear that CNN, MSNBC, NYT and Breitbart are all junk news -- just a big load of crap.

Except, without Breitbart and Bannon we wouldn't be able to see behind the curtain and what a load of crap MSM really is.

 

[yiostheoy]

Newspaper articles are not "evidence".

Evidence is hard proof (Like a video recording or a voice recording of a phone conversation), not speculation based upon unsubstantiated opinion.

I suppose you would ask for the evidence, (like a video recording or a voice recording) about Trump's Russian connection. Oh, no evidence needed in that case...

Why would I do that? I don't think there is a "connection" between Trump and Russia. However, if there were, I in fact, WOULD demand evidence.

Do we agree that just because something is published it's not necessary a truth?

And I would add, based on their track record, most that comes from MSM cannot be taken for granted and most likely is mislead and often a lie.

It is becoming abundantly clear that CNN, MSNBC, NYT and Breitbart are all junk news -- just a big load of crap.

Except, without Breitbart and Bannon we wouldn't be able to see behind the curtain and what a load of crap MSM really is.

WSJ, PBS, NBC, and Wash Post all do a pretty good job.

CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NYT are all crap.

Don't lump them all together.

Fox News is actually getting better -- right now they are betwixt and between good and crap.

 

[Pop23]

No spin. No smoke and mirrors. No conjecture. Was he wire tapped? If that can't be answered everything else is Conspiracy Theory material of attempting to create links between unrelated incidents.

At this point, it see - the whole wire-tap claim is unsubstantiated and taking on the guise of a conspiracy theory.

From: Analysis | Donald Trump was a conspiracy-theory candidate. Now he’s on the edge of being a conspiracy-theory president.

The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.


The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.


It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.​

From the LA Times: Citing no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones during the election

It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests. By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.


If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts. Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.


It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles. ​

There is a lot of smoke, mirrors and redirection going on here, an attempt I'm sure, to distract from the demands for an investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign.

Rather than blowing this up into a full blown conspiracy theory, how about looking at actual evidence?

First question to answer is: is there any hard evidence that Trump Tower was indeed wire tapped? If we can't answer that, the rest is meaningless distraction.

From the Washington Post: Analysis | Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Brietbart article on FISA Requests: June & October. Breitbart based it's article entirely on one source: and article written by Louise Mensch, a former Tory member of the British Parliament and an independent journalist for Heat Street. But no one seems to be able to independently confirm the claim.

The Washington Post for months has sought to confirm this report of a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign but has been unable to do so. Presumably other U.S. news organizations have tried to do so as well. So one has to take this claim with a huge dose of skepticism. Indeed, the New York Times reported before the election that the FBI “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts” with the Russian banks.​

According to the WP article:

The White House provided three other sources. Two, a National Review article and a Fox News interview, are simply derivative of the Heat Street article, with no independent confirmation. The third is a New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides. (We recall the president has previously deemed Times reporting on this matter as “fake news.”)​

The article goes on to conclude:

Only two articles, both with British roots, have reported that a FISA court order was granted in October to examine possible activity between two Russian banks and a computer server in the Trump Tower. This claim has not been confirmed by a U.S. news organizations. Moreover, neither article says President Obama requested the order or that it resulted in the tapping of Trump’s phone lines.​

And lastly:

Moreover, the articles do not support the White House’s claim that these were “potentially politically motivated investigations” led by President Obama. The articles all suggest the FISA requests — if they happened — were done by the intelligence agencies and the FBI.​

So, before we have this huge political uproar, and immediate comparisons to Watergate, lets' get at the facts first. Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Was Trump wiretapped? If yes - what evidence? Were bugs found in Trump Tower?

2. Were FISA requests issued? If yes - can the claims be confirmed by more then one source and for what specifically were they for?

Until those are answered - there's nothing but smoke.

Funny how none of these concerns stopped you left wingers from accusing Trump from colluding with the Russians...though every single story on it had it buried deep in the story...that there was absolutely no evidence to support the allegation......

Funny how all of a sudden you want evidence before you believe this stuff...

It is what using unnamed anonymous sources creates. Untrustworthiness.

To use one as believable, one must trust all.

It is self defeating when the shoe is put on the other foot.

If that is the only source, it's always good to take it with a grain of salt and look for more evidence.

Yet, much is presented as fact in the press that the unnamed source is providing truth.

The readers thought process is being influenced, without a named source that would be held liable for distortion.

Then we go back to, if one is to be judged credible, all must.

Dangerous game being played. Maybe by one side. Maybe by both.

 

[tycho1572]

Considering everything we've learned about obama's propensity to use taps against people he doesn't like, I have little doubt about him doing that against Trump.

 

[2aguy]

Why is the left so quick to dismiss FISA court requests as credible evidence?

James Clapper said there were NO FISA requests.

And he already lied to congress about the NSA spying on Americans...he actually did lie to congress under oath.....and you guys didn't care.....

Sessions didn't lie under oath and you want him removed ...so spare us your outrage...

 

[Ame®icano]

Again I'll ask... if there is classified evidence then wouldn't trump tweeting about it be a crime? If not then please explain how

No....the President gets to make the decision as to what is or isn't classified.....

Really? Is that true

He is the top guy...it is his call....

Wow, your right, I thought there would some kind of a process but I guess it's at the discretion of POTUS. So next step would be for him to show the wire tap evidence and put this thing to bed. From listening to the WH surrogates this morning trying to spin his tweet into an "if" situation based on a news report, I'm guessing we aren't going to see any evidence. It's all bait to distract the puppets. Very transparent

actually......the news from the New York Times and other left wing news sources have all claimed that the information they have been using on the Trump/Russia story came from wire taps........this was before any allegations of obama wire tapping Trump....

DeepStateGate: Democrats' Russia Conspiracy Theory Backfires

Levin’s claims, reported at Breitbart News early Friday, were in turn based on information largely from mainstream outlets, including the New York Times and the Washington Post. Heat Street was one non-mainstream source, but the BBC also reported similar information in January. So, too, did the UK Guardian, which is a mainstream source (albeit with a decidedly left-wing slant, hardly favorable to Trump).

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In addition, there is reason to doubt the claim that the White House never “interfered”: the New York Times reported in January that “intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.”

It will backfire big time. Clapper is no fool, and he's throwing them under the bus.
Remember, Trump brought this up, not "them". He controls the message.

All these pricks are denying limited sets of allegations that don't overlap. Previously published and non-disputed reports, confirmed there were indeed FISA warrants aimed at Trump and others that were ultimately approved.

 

[OldLady]

Trump got his news from Breitbart.

Dumb stupid inept old man.

Somebody needs to take away his cell phone so he can't tweet anymore.

Okay, I'm going to say it: Somebody needs to take the White House away from him.

President Trump needs to be told to stop Tweeting about certain things.

The way to have done this, if they have evidence that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped, they should have organised a press conference and at the press conference dropped the bomb in the form of the declassified information showing that The Obama Administration had Trump Tower wiretapped.

The way not to do this was for President Trump to just Tweet this without ordering the declassified information to be publicly released within the next few days.

The way not to do this was for President Trump to just Tweet this without ordering the declassified information to be publicly released within the next few days.
I agree with your post in its entirety, as any reasonable person would. The problem is, Trump is not a reasonable man and he is not as "controllable" as the Republicans hoped when they greedily courted all the populist votes that enabled them to have a Republican in the White House to sign their legislation. They have a tiger by the tail and they deserve it, but I am so upset for what it is doing to this country.