We WERE Americans

[cnm]

Excellent piece, Fury. It is so easy to become disappointed when we see the direction our country is taking. Many of us feel it. And, to think we could have a POTUS that is a socialist or one that has less integrity than a common thief, one just wants to shake their head and take a deep sigh.

That would be a step up, you've only recently had one who is a war criminal. Think positive.

 

[Jackson]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

I am not sure that is the case either. I see so many people volunteering their time and/or donating money to make their communities better places to live. I think of lot of this is overblown dramatics.

You think? I have to admit, I don't volunteer for anything really, but I do contribute financially. Do you think people see themselves as different from others?

 

[Carla_Danger]

There WAS a day went that meant something. NATIONAL pride was more then an idea a concept it was a FACT, it was a practice. But it has been slowly stripped away and discarded by political hobo's. I know I am not wrong in remembering this, because it was a part of everyday life.

I'm sure there are MANY members here such as Jackson or randall Flagg even Sonny Clark that can remember this. It was almost inherent in our blood.
Nor are we the only nation or people to endure his FORCED loss. Stratford57 can see it in his country and Lucy Hamilton can see it in hers.

We not only have those left wing lunatics deriding us for ours they insist ALL must give it up. What do our and those government propose to replace it with? SOCIALIST government where NOT a thought is yours. You do realize that government NEVER advances only reacts.

There is no advancement under socialist government because that form of government is designed to be stable and never changing. Under a communist government {USSR} the government builds cars and the design hardly ever changes. MOST socialist countries don't even build cars of their own design.

Canada builds cars for Ford/GM/Dodge/Toyota and Honda. All designed in other countries by other people. Canada builds the Winnebago on an American truck platform. They simply do not design/build their own platforms They have outsourced their tech just as American has outsourced its labor.

There WAS a time when all countries displayed their best. German steel was number one. Russian ship building was the best and America built cars for anywhere in the world on any budget and could handle any road.

National pride. The Russians have re-found theirs in a fellow named Putin. Germany struggles right now to find its and in November the world will watch to see IF America has found hers. We are no more the leader of the free world today then Mexico. Germany is no more Europe's free world leader then Greece.

National pride is the ONLY thing that puts you there because with national pride comes ideas and sweat. Hillary has no national pride and never has. The world has seen and suffered at the lack of Obama. Germany is fast falling into chaos because of its leaders HATE for its people. We in this country have a FLOTUS on record with her hate for our way. Just how stupid was that?

So what makes me think we can make America great again? Because we ARE Americans and that just IS what we do...


Fury

Excellent piece, Fury. It is so easy to become disappointed when we see the direction our country is taking. Many of us feel it. And, to think we could have a POTUS that is a socialist or one that has less integrity than a common thief, one just wants to shake their head and take a deep sigh.

But as you said, We are Americans and we have to believe that our citizens and immigrants can work together to make this country the leader of the free world, with jobs for all that want one, where we live in harmony again. It's not too hard if we remember for the most part, we are all Americans and want the best for every man, woman and child. Can we do it? Yes? Is there something more important than Democrat or Republican? Yes. This election, let's find a candidate who can bring us together and work for the greatness of this country!

We need to go back to being Americans FIRST and whatever else second.

Nice talking point. Does Polly want a cracker?

 

[Jackson]

Excellent piece, Fury. It is so easy to become disappointed when we see the direction our country is taking. Many of us feel it. And, to think we could have a POTUS that is a socialist or one that has less integrity than a common thief, one just wants to shake their head and take a deep sigh.

That would be a step up, you've only recently had one who is a war criminal. Think positive.

Who was the war criminal?

 

[cnm]

National pride is not propaganda. National pride is what propels a nation.

A lot of the 'pride' you remember came from the non stop propaganda you were fed. 'A force for good.' 'Leader of the free world.' 'Home of the free and land of the brave.'

All propaganda.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

This is some of it, materialism became more important than Patriotism.

I think you are confusing American patriotism with some weird brand of European white nationalism. I get it. Many of our white supremacist freaks like to run around screaming about their love for America and freedom. It's understandable that you'd be confused.

 

[Jackson]

There WAS a day went that meant something. NATIONAL pride was more then an idea a concept it was a FACT, it was a practice. But it has been slowly stripped away and discarded by political hobo's. I know I am not wrong in remembering this, because it was a part of everyday life.

I'm sure there are MANY members here such as Jackson or randall Flagg even Sonny Clark that can remember this. It was almost inherent in our blood.
Nor are we the only nation or people to endure his FORCED loss. Stratford57 can see it in his country and Lucy Hamilton can see it in hers.

We not only have those left wing lunatics deriding us for ours they insist ALL must give it up. What do our and those government propose to replace it with? SOCIALIST government where NOT a thought is yours. You do realize that government NEVER advances only reacts.

There is no advancement under socialist government because that form of government is designed to be stable and never changing. Under a communist government {USSR} the government builds cars and the design hardly ever changes. MOST socialist countries don't even build cars of their own design.

Canada builds cars for Ford/GM/Dodge/Toyota and Honda. All designed in other countries by other people. Canada builds the Winnebago on an American truck platform. They simply do not design/build their own platforms They have outsourced their tech just as American has outsourced its labor.

There WAS a time when all countries displayed their best. German steel was number one. Russian ship building was the best and America built cars for anywhere in the world on any budget and could handle any road.

National pride. The Russians have re-found theirs in a fellow named Putin. Germany struggles right now to find its and in November the world will watch to see IF America has found hers. We are no more the leader of the free world today then Mexico. Germany is no more Europe's free world leader then Greece.

National pride is the ONLY thing that puts you there because with national pride comes ideas and sweat. Hillary has no national pride and never has. The world has seen and suffered at the lack of Obama. Germany is fast falling into chaos because of its leaders HATE for its people. We in this country have a FLOTUS on record with her hate for our way. Just how stupid was that?

So what makes me think we can make America great again? Because we ARE Americans and that just IS what we do...


Fury

Excellent piece, Fury. It is so easy to become disappointed when we see the direction our country is taking. Many of us feel it. And, to think we could have a POTUS that is a socialist or one that has less integrity than a common thief, one just wants to shake their head and take a deep sigh.

But as you said, We are Americans and we have to believe that our citizens and immigrants can work together to make this country the leader of the free world, with jobs for all that want one, where we live in harmony again. It's not too hard if we remember for the most part, we are all Americans and want the best for every man, woman and child. Can we do it? Yes? Is there something more important than Democrat or Republican? Yes. This election, let's find a candidate who can bring us together and work for the greatness of this country!

We need to go back to being Americans FIRST and whatever else second.

Nice talking point. Does Polly want a cracker?

It was an excellent talking point. Is your comment an excellent talking point, too?

 

[Jackson]

National pride is not propaganda. National pride is what propels a nation.

A lot of the 'pride' you remember came from the non stop propaganda you were fed. 'A force for good.' 'Leader of the free world.' 'Home of the free and land of the brave.'

All propaganda.

Wow, maybe what I remember was propaganda. Are you over 50?

 

[mdk]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

I am not sure that is the case either. I see so many people volunteering their time and/or donating money to make their communities better places to live. I think of lot of this is overblown dramatics.

You think? I have to admit, I don't volunteer for anything really, but I do contribute financially. Do you think people see themselves as different from others?

I do. The American people are very charitable and compassionate people. I think despite our myriad of differences that at the end of the day we are still Americans and view each other as such.

 

[cnm]

Who was the war criminal?

Fuckwit43 is a war criminal, he committed war crimes by torturing captives and crimes against peace by waging aggressive war on Iraq.

 

[DarkFury]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

This is some of it, materialism became more important than Patriotism.

I think you are confusing American patriotism with some weird brand of European white nationalism. I get it. Many of our white supremacist freaks like to run around screaming about their love for America and freedom. It's understandable that you'd be confused.

Yeah, but I'm half Mexican so "White Supremacist" does not exactly fit me.

 

[Rouge Rover]

Not getting along with each other is an American tradition.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

This is some of it, materialism became more important than Patriotism.

I think you are confusing American patriotism with some weird brand of European white nationalism. I get it. Many of our white supremacist freaks like to run around screaming about their love for America and freedom. It's understandable that you'd be confused.

Yeah, but I'm half Mexican so "White Supremacist" does not exactly fit me.

I was not talking to you.

 

[DarkFury]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

I am not sure that is the case either. I see so many people volunteering their time and/or donating money to make their communities better places to live. I think of lot of this is overblown dramatics.

You think? I have to admit, I don't volunteer for anything really, but I do contribute financially. Do you think people see themselves as different from others?

I do. The American people are very charitable and compassionate people. I think despite our myriad of differences that at the end of the day we are still Americans and view each other as such.

When one person kills another because they are white or homo or in an area under anothers control your argument is moot.

 

[Jackson]

Who was the war criminal?

Fuckwit43 is a war criminal, he committed war crimes by torturing captives and crimes against peace by waging aggressive war on Iraq.

Seriously, I do not recall the name. Perhaps you tell his real name?

 

[Jackson]

Not getting along with each other is an American tradition.

When did that become a tradition? Are you being funny?

 

[DarkFury]

Who was the war criminal?

Fuckwit43 is a war criminal, he committed war crimes by torturing captives and crimes against peace by waging aggressive war on Iraq.

Then by that logic Obama is just as bad. You are playing to party NOT the bigger picture of America.

 

[Rouge Rover]

Not getting along with each other is an American tradition.

When did that become a tradition? Are you being funny?

No, I'm not being funny, I'm pointing out that some people see the past through rose colored glasses.

 

[mdk]

The idea that we have somehow lost our national pride is poppycock. We may stumble along the way but America has always been great.

Perhaps we just faltered, thinking too much of ourselves and not enough about our country.

I am not sure that is the case either. I see so many people volunteering their time and/or donating money to make their communities better places to live. I think of lot of this is overblown dramatics.

You think? I have to admit, I don't volunteer for anything really, but I do contribute financially. Do you think people see themselves as different from others?

I do. The American people are very charitable and compassionate people. I think despite our myriad of differences that at the end of the day we are still Americans and view each other as such.

When one person kills another because they are white or homo or in an area under anothers control your argument is moot.

Yes, some people do commits acts of murder as they have since the founding of our nation. That in no way makes Americans less compassionate or a charitable people.

 

[Jackson]

Not getting along with each other is an American tradition.

When did that become a tradition? Are you being funny?

No, I'm not being funny, I'm pointing out that some people see the past through rose colored glasses.

true. And some look through purple. How about you and I look through clear glasses and find some common ground.