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This guy is lost and off kilter. He'll be done soon. Guarantee it. He's trying desperately to cling to some nonsense video that he think was edited, but, lol, the video was six days after the attack that Trump said "peace."Only the Leftist nutjobs believe political polls. Wishful thinking much?
What number do you wish it is? Since you know that mine is not true you must have one. What is it?
Like saying that after the fact is some how going to help. 
This trial isn't about losing. It's about exposing the traitors to this country within the GOP. We have confirmed who they are. It was always known they wouldn't convict. But now they were brought out into the open. That's what was won. They will be labeled forever.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
Exposing traitors by violating the Constitution? All that does is expose the stupidity of the Leftists.
But you don't call them 'traitors' at all, do you?
You call them traitors because you disagree with their politics.
I call them traitors because they were incited into an insurrection of our nation's Capitol building over butthurt due to losing a fair election and causing vandalism, violence and even death. All because they couldn't deal with the result of a legit election. Here's a middle finger in your face.
The only thing this election result shows this far is that most of us 'real Americans' don't like you Cult45 pissants very much. So, kindly, with as much unity as I can stomach, go fuck yourselves.
Too much evidence against Trump. He's guilty as hell. What was especially striking, is the fact that the defense was complaining about a lack of evidence, yet, when Raskin invited Trump to testify to clear his name, the lawyers said no. LOl! The prosecution reserves the right to present their evidence in the absence of the very witness that can supply the evidence. Trump and his dunce team of lawyers gave themselves away;I just listened to the Senate Trial Presentations and have a few thoughts. Others will disagree, even violently. Listen to my thoughts, and then I’ll listen to yours...
The “House Managers” just refuted what I thought were preposterous Republican arguments that the Constitution won’t even allow for a trial of impeached ex-president Trump. I come away more than ever impressed with the Constitutional importance of what is now at stake.
This is not a ridiculous impeachment over lying about sex, or a hearing over the tragedy in Benghazi. This is about taking a stand against an out-of-control lame-duck President who tried to keep himself in office. This trial is about dealing with an attack on our whole democratic electoral system, on the Capitol itself. It is about re-asserting the power of Congress to stand against a mad President.
I personally have sometimes dreamt of seeing the impeachment and conviction of Presidents (of both parties) who lied and led us into murderous and totally unnecessary overseas military adventures. Of course these impeachments never happened. Yet now in D.C., in the heartland of our Republic and “empire,” political marketing and “America First” demagogy has succeeded ... in dividing the minds and hearts of Americans ... rather than Iraqis, Russians or Chinese.
Many of our own obsessions as a nation led to Jan. 6th, and its shadow will lie over our Republic for a long time. I think if this Senate doesn’t make an example of our most dangerous and outrageous recent demagogue we will be guaranteeing further more serious political mob action and even coup adventures in the future.
This is not a “show trial.” Well, just perhaps it will go down in history as a “show trial” ... if our people and politicians treat it as one. If few Republicans rise to the occasion and do their duty, if Donald Trump is not repudiated in the most severe Constitutional manner possible, then we are “showing” that we treat our great Republic and its institutions as crap.
It’s our Republic ... if we can keep it.
If there's so much evidence, why did the impeachment managers resort to using falsified evidence?
There was no falsified evidence. That's something you made up in your head.
The impeachment managers used an edited video as their number one piece of evidence: the "goods" as they called it.
"Edited video?" You mean added video not see before don't you?
No, I mean edited video. The impeachment managers introduced false evidence.
You haven't proven it to be false. We are waiting.
It's sad, but predictable that you don't know this:
Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace?
Former President Donald Trump's highly anticipated second impeachment trial began on Tuesday, just a little more than a month following the riot at the U.S. Capitol Building during Congress' certification of the 2020 election results.www.google.com
LOl! The defense said Trump mentioned peace one time, and fight twenty times. The defense isn't hiding that. They don't need to. Trumps own rhetoric to fight twenty times, never give up, never concede, then never stopping the riot, is indisputable evidence of an insurrection to riot as terrorists, and that's what they did.
They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.
You must have cognitive problems? The defense did not deny Trump said peace one time in the speech. Are you okay?
And by the way, saying peace one time, fight twenty, and doing nothing about this terrorist attack says absolutely zero for his defense. Get a fucking clue. You're still losing.
The impeachment managers used falsified evidence. There's no way out of this, for you.
Your whataboutism is for cowards. Try something better. The protesters for George Floyd didn't kill five people at the Capitol.This trial isn't about losing. It's about exposing the traitors to this country within the GOP. We have confirmed who they are. It was always known they wouldn't convict. But now they were brought out into the open. That's what was won. They will be labeled forever.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
Exposing traitors by violating the Constitution? All that does is expose the stupidity of the Leftists.
But you don't call them 'traitors' at all, do you?
You call them traitors because you disagree with their politics.
I call them traitors because they were incited into an insurrection of our nation's Capitol building over butthurt due to losing a fair election and causing vandalism, violence and even death. All because they couldn't deal with the result of a legit election. Here's a middle finger in your face.
The only thing this election result shows this far is that most of us 'real Americans' don't like you Cult45 pissants very much. So, kindly, with as much unity as I can stomach, go fuck yourselves.
Were you saying that during the George Floyd riots last year?
This guy is lost and off kilter. He'll be done soon. Guarantee it. He's trying desperately to cling to some nonsense video that he think was edited, but, lol, the video was six days after the attack that Trump said "peace."Only the Leftist nutjobs believe political polls. Wishful thinking much?
What number do you wish it is? Since you know that mine is not true you must have one. What is it?
Okay thanks, you aren't intelligent enough to debate here. Do yourself a favor and watch your own video and pay attention to the date when Trump mentioned "peace." If you can't do that, you have no business here. You aren't smart enough to engage cognitively.This guy is lost and off kilter. He'll be done soon. Guarantee it. He's trying desperately to cling to some nonsense video that he think was edited, but, lol, the video was six days after the attack that Trump said "peace."Only the Leftist nutjobs believe political polls. Wishful thinking much?
What number do you wish it is? Since you know that mine is not true you must have one. What is it?
You're sticking with your lie that the video wasn't edited?
This trial isn't about losing. It's about exposing the traitors to this country within the GOP. We have confirmed who they are. It was always known they wouldn't convict. But now they were brought out into the open. That's what was won. They will be labeled forever.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
Exposing traitors by violating the Constitution? All that does is expose the stupidity of the Leftists.
But you don't call them 'traitors' at all, do you?
You call them traitors because you disagree with their politics.
I call them traitors because they were incited into an insurrection of our nation's Capitol building over butthurt due to losing a fair election and causing vandalism, violence and even death. All because they couldn't deal with the result of a legit election. Here's a middle finger in your face.
The only thing this election result shows this far is that most of us 'real Americans' don't like you Cult45 pissants very much. So, kindly, with as much unity as I can stomach, go fuck yourselves.
Were you saying that during the George Floyd riots last year?
Too much evidence against Trump. He's guilty as hell. What was especially striking, is the fact that the defense was complaining about a lack of evidence, yet, when Raskin invited Trump to testify to clear his name, the lawyers said no. LOl! The prosecution reserves the right to present their evidence in the absence of the very witness that can supply the evidence. Trump and his dunce team of lawyers gave themselves away;I just listened to the Senate Trial Presentations and have a few thoughts. Others will disagree, even violently. Listen to my thoughts, and then I’ll listen to yours...
The “House Managers” just refuted what I thought were preposterous Republican arguments that the Constitution won’t even allow for a trial of impeached ex-president Trump. I come away more than ever impressed with the Constitutional importance of what is now at stake.
This is not a ridiculous impeachment over lying about sex, or a hearing over the tragedy in Benghazi. This is about taking a stand against an out-of-control lame-duck President who tried to keep himself in office. This trial is about dealing with an attack on our whole democratic electoral system, on the Capitol itself. It is about re-asserting the power of Congress to stand against a mad President.
I personally have sometimes dreamt of seeing the impeachment and conviction of Presidents (of both parties) who lied and led us into murderous and totally unnecessary overseas military adventures. Of course these impeachments never happened. Yet now in D.C., in the heartland of our Republic and “empire,” political marketing and “America First” demagogy has succeeded ... in dividing the minds and hearts of Americans ... rather than Iraqis, Russians or Chinese.
Many of our own obsessions as a nation led to Jan. 6th, and its shadow will lie over our Republic for a long time. I think if this Senate doesn’t make an example of our most dangerous and outrageous recent demagogue we will be guaranteeing further more serious political mob action and even coup adventures in the future.
This is not a “show trial.” Well, just perhaps it will go down in history as a “show trial” ... if our people and politicians treat it as one. If few Republicans rise to the occasion and do their duty, if Donald Trump is not repudiated in the most severe Constitutional manner possible, then we are “showing” that we treat our great Republic and its institutions as crap.
It’s our Republic ... if we can keep it.
If there's so much evidence, why did the impeachment managers resort to using falsified evidence?
There was no falsified evidence. That's something you made up in your head.
The impeachment managers used an edited video as their number one piece of evidence: the "goods" as they called it.
"Edited video?" You mean added video not see before don't you?
No, I mean edited video. The impeachment managers introduced false evidence.
You haven't proven it to be false. We are waiting.
It's sad, but predictable that you don't know this:
Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace?
Former President Donald Trump's highly anticipated second impeachment trial began on Tuesday, just a little more than a month following the riot at the U.S. Capitol Building during Congress' certification of the 2020 election results.
LOl! The defense said Trump mentioned peace one time, and fight twenty times. The defense isn't hiding that. They don't need to. Trumps own rhetoric to fight twenty times, never give up, never concede, then never stopping the riot, is indisputable evidence of an insurrection to riot as terrorists, and that's what they did.
They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.
Too much evidence against Trump. He's guilty as hell. What was especially striking, is the fact that the defense was complaining about a lack of evidence, yet, when Raskin invited Trump to testify to clear his name, the lawyers said no. LOl! The prosecution reserves the right to present their evidence in the absence of the very witness that can supply the evidence. Trump and his dunce team of lawyers gave themselves away;I just listened to the Senate Trial Presentations and have a few thoughts. Others will disagree, even violently. Listen to my thoughts, and then I’ll listen to yours...
The “House Managers” just refuted what I thought were preposterous Republican arguments that the Constitution won’t even allow for a trial of impeached ex-president Trump. I come away more than ever impressed with the Constitutional importance of what is now at stake.
This is not a ridiculous impeachment over lying about sex, or a hearing over the tragedy in Benghazi. This is about taking a stand against an out-of-control lame-duck President who tried to keep himself in office. This trial is about dealing with an attack on our whole democratic electoral system, on the Capitol itself. It is about re-asserting the power of Congress to stand against a mad President.
I personally have sometimes dreamt of seeing the impeachment and conviction of Presidents (of both parties) who lied and led us into murderous and totally unnecessary overseas military adventures. Of course these impeachments never happened. Yet now in D.C., in the heartland of our Republic and “empire,” political marketing and “America First” demagogy has succeeded ... in dividing the minds and hearts of Americans ... rather than Iraqis, Russians or Chinese.
Many of our own obsessions as a nation led to Jan. 6th, and its shadow will lie over our Republic for a long time. I think if this Senate doesn’t make an example of our most dangerous and outrageous recent demagogue we will be guaranteeing further more serious political mob action and even coup adventures in the future.
This is not a “show trial.” Well, just perhaps it will go down in history as a “show trial” ... if our people and politicians treat it as one. If few Republicans rise to the occasion and do their duty, if Donald Trump is not repudiated in the most severe Constitutional manner possible, then we are “showing” that we treat our great Republic and its institutions as crap.
It’s our Republic ... if we can keep it.
If there's so much evidence, why did the impeachment managers resort to using falsified evidence?
There was no falsified evidence. That's something you made up in your head.
The impeachment managers used an edited video as their number one piece of evidence: the "goods" as they called it.
"Edited video?" You mean added video not see before don't you?
No, I mean edited video. The impeachment managers introduced false evidence.
You haven't proven it to be false. We are waiting.
It's sad, but predictable that you don't know this:
Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace?
Former President Donald Trump's highly anticipated second impeachment trial began on Tuesday, just a little more than a month following the riot at the U.S. Capitol Building during Congress' certification of the 2020 election results.
LOl! The defense said Trump mentioned peace one time, and fight twenty times. The defense isn't hiding that. They don't need to. Trumps own rhetoric to fight twenty times, never give up, never concede, then never stopping the riot, is indisputable evidence of an insurrection to riot as terrorists, and that's what they did.
They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.
“They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.”
Typical stupidity. No lying here at all. The video in question, the main video shown over and over again by the House Managers, was just over 13 minutes long and featured mostly scenes of the riot itself, including violent mob scenes not before made public. It was overwhelmingly not about Trump’s speech at all. Trump’s speech was around an hour long, so it was obvious to all that the parts about his speech were edited — and only there to give a flavor for what he had been saying generally and how the crowd subsequently reacted.
Moreover, the House Managers discussed numerous times Trump’s many months of false claims and incitements, his more recent outrageous conduct and nonsense claims after he lost.
They also explicitly discussed his tweets that eventually called for his violent thugs to “remain peaceful.”
Of course they were already anything but peaceful by that time and Trump knew it. Trump masterfully brought this particular crowd together in order to break up the reading of the already confirmed electoral votes, which is what they accomplished. Trump was all along trying to stay in power by any means. Jan. 6th was just his final absurd and dangerous throw of the dice.
Trump was the singular individual responsible for the deaths that occurred. For everything that occurred. Nothing like it could have occurred without him.
This is what I was thinking as I listened to the president’s defense lawyers make their petty arguments.
***
In another key moment, Senator Bernie Sanders asked if Mr. Trump had actually won the election. Impeachment manager Stacey Plaskett said it was clear Mr. Trump had lost the election, but van der Veen dodged, saying "in my judgment ... Who asked that?" Sanders answered "I did" and van der Veen responded "my judgment is irrelevant."
Sanders then said from his desk: "You represent the president of the United States!"
Too much evidence against Trump. He's guilty as hell. What was especially striking, is the fact that the defense was complaining about a lack of evidence, yet, when Raskin invited Trump to testify to clear his name, the lawyers said no. LOl! The prosecution reserves the right to present their evidence in the absence of the very witness that can supply the evidence. Trump and his dunce team of lawyers gave themselves away;I just listened to the Senate Trial Presentations and have a few thoughts. Others will disagree, even violently. Listen to my thoughts, and then I’ll listen to yours...
The “House Managers” just refuted what I thought were preposterous Republican arguments that the Constitution won’t even allow for a trial of impeached ex-president Trump. I come away more than ever impressed with the Constitutional importance of what is now at stake.
This is not a ridiculous impeachment over lying about sex, or a hearing over the tragedy in Benghazi. This is about taking a stand against an out-of-control lame-duck President who tried to keep himself in office. This trial is about dealing with an attack on our whole democratic electoral system, on the Capitol itself. It is about re-asserting the power of Congress to stand against a mad President.
I personally have sometimes dreamt of seeing the impeachment and conviction of Presidents (of both parties) who lied and led us into murderous and totally unnecessary overseas military adventures. Of course these impeachments never happened. Yet now in D.C., in the heartland of our Republic and “empire,” political marketing and “America First” demagogy has succeeded ... in dividing the minds and hearts of Americans ... rather than Iraqis, Russians or Chinese.
Many of our own obsessions as a nation led to Jan. 6th, and its shadow will lie over our Republic for a long time. I think if this Senate doesn’t make an example of our most dangerous and outrageous recent demagogue we will be guaranteeing further more serious political mob action and even coup adventures in the future.
This is not a “show trial.” Well, just perhaps it will go down in history as a “show trial” ... if our people and politicians treat it as one. If few Republicans rise to the occasion and do their duty, if Donald Trump is not repudiated in the most severe Constitutional manner possible, then we are “showing” that we treat our great Republic and its institutions as crap.
It’s our Republic ... if we can keep it.
If there's so much evidence, why did the impeachment managers resort to using falsified evidence?
There was no falsified evidence. That's something you made up in your head.
The impeachment managers used an edited video as their number one piece of evidence: the "goods" as they called it.
"Edited video?" You mean added video not see before don't you?
No, I mean edited video. The impeachment managers introduced false evidence.
You haven't proven it to be false. We are waiting.
It's sad, but predictable that you don't know this:
Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace?
Former President Donald Trump's highly anticipated second impeachment trial began on Tuesday, just a little more than a month following the riot at the U.S. Capitol Building during Congress' certification of the 2020 election results.
LOl! The defense said Trump mentioned peace one time, and fight twenty times. The defense isn't hiding that. They don't need to. Trumps own rhetoric to fight twenty times, never give up, never concede, then never stopping the riot, is indisputable evidence of an insurrection to riot as terrorists, and that's what they did.
They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.
“They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.”
Typical stupidity. No lying here at all. The video in question, the main video shown over and over again by the House Managers, was just over 13 minutes long and featured mostly scenes of the riot itself, including violent mob scenes not before made public. It was overwhelmingly not about Trump’s speech at all. Trump’s speech was around an hour long, so it was obvious to all that the parts about his speech were edited — and only there to give a flavor for what he had been saying generally and how the crowd subsequently reacted.
Moreover, the House Managers discussed numerous times Trump’s many months of false claims and incitements, his more recent outrageous conduct and nonsense claims after he lost.
They also explicitly discussed his tweets that eventually called for his violent thugs to “remain peaceful.”
Of course they were already anything but peaceful by that time and Trump knew it. Trump masterfully brought this particular crowd together in order to break up the reading of the already confirmed electoral votes, which is what they accomplished. Trump was all along trying to stay in power by any means. Jan. 6th was just his final absurd and dangerous throw of the dice.
Trump was the singular individual responsible for the deaths that occurred. For everything that occurred. Nothing like it could have occurred without him.
This is what I was thinking as I listened to the president’s defense lawyers make their petty arguments.
***
In another key moment, Senator Bernie Sanders asked if Mr. Trump had actually won the election. Impeachment manager Stacey Plaskett said it was clear Mr. Trump had lost the election, but van der Veen dodged, saying "in my judgment ... Who asked that?" Sanders answered "I did" and van der Veen responded "my judgment is irrelevant."
Sanders then said from his desk: "You represent the president of the United States!"
Too much evidence against Trump. He's guilty as hell. What was especially striking, is the fact that the defense was complaining about a lack of evidence, yet, when Raskin invited Trump to testify to clear his name, the lawyers said no. LOl! The prosecution reserves the right to present their evidence in the absence of the very witness that can supply the evidence. Trump and his dunce team of lawyers gave themselves away;I just listened to the Senate Trial Presentations and have a few thoughts. Others will disagree, even violently. Listen to my thoughts, and then I’ll listen to yours...
The “House Managers” just refuted what I thought were preposterous Republican arguments that the Constitution won’t even allow for a trial of impeached ex-president Trump. I come away more than ever impressed with the Constitutional importance of what is now at stake.
This is not a ridiculous impeachment over lying about sex, or a hearing over the tragedy in Benghazi. This is about taking a stand against an out-of-control lame-duck President who tried to keep himself in office. This trial is about dealing with an attack on our whole democratic electoral system, on the Capitol itself. It is about re-asserting the power of Congress to stand against a mad President.
I personally have sometimes dreamt of seeing the impeachment and conviction of Presidents (of both parties) who lied and led us into murderous and totally unnecessary overseas military adventures. Of course these impeachments never happened. Yet now in D.C., in the heartland of our Republic and “empire,” political marketing and “America First” demagogy has succeeded ... in dividing the minds and hearts of Americans ... rather than Iraqis, Russians or Chinese.
Many of our own obsessions as a nation led to Jan. 6th, and its shadow will lie over our Republic for a long time. I think if this Senate doesn’t make an example of our most dangerous and outrageous recent demagogue we will be guaranteeing further more serious political mob action and even coup adventures in the future.
This is not a “show trial.” Well, just perhaps it will go down in history as a “show trial” ... if our people and politicians treat it as one. If few Republicans rise to the occasion and do their duty, if Donald Trump is not repudiated in the most severe Constitutional manner possible, then we are “showing” that we treat our great Republic and its institutions as crap.
It’s our Republic ... if we can keep it.
If there's so much evidence, why did the impeachment managers resort to using falsified evidence?
There was no falsified evidence. That's something you made up in your head.
The impeachment managers used an edited video as their number one piece of evidence: the "goods" as they called it.
"Edited video?" You mean added video not see before don't you?
No, I mean edited video. The impeachment managers introduced false evidence.
You haven't proven it to be false. We are waiting.
It's sad, but predictable that you don't know this:
Fact Check: Was Impeachment Video Edited to Remove Trump's Call For Peace?
Former President Donald Trump's highly anticipated second impeachment trial began on Tuesday, just a little more than a month following the riot at the U.S. Capitol Building during Congress' certification of the 2020 election results.
LOl! The defense said Trump mentioned peace one time, and fight twenty times. The defense isn't hiding that. They don't need to. Trumps own rhetoric to fight twenty times, never give up, never concede, then never stopping the riot, is indisputable evidence of an insurrection to riot as terrorists, and that's what they did.
They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.
“They edited the video. You must now admit the impeachment managers lied.”
Typical stupidity. No lying here at all. The video in question, the main video shown over and over again by the House Managers, was just over 13 minutes long and featured mostly scenes of the riot itself, including violent mob scenes not before made public. It was overwhelmingly not about Trump’s speech at all. Trump’s speech was around an hour long, so it was obvious to all that the parts about his speech were edited — and only there to give a flavor for what he had been saying generally and how the crowd subsequently reacted.
Moreover, the House Managers discussed numerous times Trump’s many months of false claims and incitements, his more recent outrageous conduct and nonsense claims after he lost.
They also explicitly discussed his tweets that eventually called for his violent thugs to “remain peaceful.”
Of course they were already anything but peaceful by that time and Trump knew it. Trump masterfully brought this particular crowd together in order to break up the reading of the already confirmed electoral votes, which is what they accomplished. Trump was all along trying to stay in power by any means. Jan. 6th was just his final absurd and dangerous throw of the dice.
Trump was the singular individual responsible for the deaths that occurred. For everything that occurred. Nothing like it could have occurred without him.
This is what I was thinking as I listened to the president’s defense lawyers make their petty arguments.
***
In another key moment, Senator Bernie Sanders asked if Mr. Trump had actually won the election. Impeachment manager Stacey Plaskett said it was clear Mr. Trump had lost the election, but van der Veen dodged, saying "in my judgment ... Who asked that?" Sanders answered "I did" and van der Veen responded "my judgment is irrelevant."
Sanders then said from his desk: "You represent the president of the United States!"
Are you naturally this stupid? This case is a foregone conclusion you moron. Trump will be exonerated again and you’ll throw a hissyfit. Again. Seems you’re the he embarrassment thinking this isn’t already decided. Now STFU asshole.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
Oh, pipe down you moron. You're embarrassing yourself.
Too much evidence against Trump. He's guilty as hell. What was especially striking, is the fact that the defense was complaining about a lack of evidence, yet, when Raskin invited Trump to testify to clear his name, the lawyers said no. LOl! The prosecution reserves the right to present their evidence in the absence of the very witness that can supply the evidence. Trump and his dunce team of lawyers gave themselves away;I just listened to the Senate Trial Presentations and have a few thoughts. Others will disagree, even violently. Listen to my thoughts, and then I’ll listen to yours...
The “House Managers” just refuted what I thought were preposterous Republican arguments that the Constitution won’t even allow for a trial of impeached ex-president Trump. I come away more than ever impressed with the Constitutional importance of what is now at stake.
This is not a ridiculous impeachment over lying about sex, or a hearing over the tragedy in Benghazi. This is about taking a stand against an out-of-control lame-duck President who tried to keep himself in office. This trial is about dealing with an attack on our whole democratic electoral system, on the Capitol itself. It is about re-asserting the power of Congress to stand against a mad President.
I personally have sometimes dreamt of seeing the impeachment and conviction of Presidents (of both parties) who lied and led us into murderous and totally unnecessary overseas military adventures. Of course these impeachments never happened. Yet now in D.C., in the heartland of our Republic and “empire,” political marketing and “America First” demagogy has succeeded ... in dividing the minds and hearts of Americans ... rather than Iraqis, Russians or Chinese.
Many of our own obsessions as a nation led to Jan. 6th, and its shadow will lie over our Republic for a long time. I think if this Senate doesn’t make an example of our most dangerous and outrageous recent demagogue we will be guaranteeing further more serious political mob action and even coup adventures in the future.
This is not a “show trial.” Well, just perhaps it will go down in history as a “show trial” ... if our people and politicians treat it as one. If few Republicans rise to the occasion and do their duty, if Donald Trump is not repudiated in the most severe Constitutional manner possible, then we are “showing” that we treat our great Republic and its institutions as crap.
It’s our Republic ... if we can keep it.
If there's so much evidence, why did the impeachment managers resort to using falsified evidence?
There was no falsified evidence. That's something you made up in your head.
The only ones labeled are the Dem idiots who falsified evidence, showed edited videos and generally made asses of themselves on national television. So of course you love them.This trial isn't about losing. It's about exposing the traitors to this country within the GOP. We have confirmed who they are. It was always known they wouldn't convict. But now they were brought out into the open. That's what was won. They will be labeled forever.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
This trial isn't about losing. It's about exposing the traitors to this country within the GOP. We have confirmed who they are. It was always known they wouldn't convict. But now they were brought out into the open. That's what was won. They will be labeled forever.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
Exposing traitors by violating the Constitution? All that does is expose the stupidity of the Leftists.
But you don't call them 'traitors' at all, do you?
You call them traitors because you disagree with their politics.
I call them traitors because they were incited into an insurrection of our nation's Capitol building over butthurt due to losing a fair election and causing vandalism, violence and even death. All because they couldn't deal with the result of a legit election. Here's a middle finger in your face.
The only thing this election result shows this far is that most of us 'real Americans' don't like you Cult45 pissants very much. So, kindly, with as much unity as I can stomach, go fuck yourselves.
Were you saying that during the George Floyd riots last year?
Whataboutism. The only tool in a Cult45 c*nt's toolbox. When do you people break through your political conditioning enough to process reality? Hey genius: we're talking about your shitty excuse of a *pResident you support inciting an equally shitty, loser, Insurrection on the Capitol.
Try to keep up.
nope, you are wrong again.
I am blaming Trump for assembling a mob to stop the steal by fighting. The next few hours presented the last chance to put Trump in the White House with that stirred up mob being the only way to stop the steal
I am not respecting the peaceful transfer of power either. I do not consider BIden's election to be legitimate nor do I consider him to be a legitimate President.
you don’t have to. who cares. 70% of Americans do not agree. And that includes the highest ranking Republican in the nation Mitch McConnel. The entire judicial system, and Vladimir Putin and the rest of the world’s leaders. The US military too. And my dog. The world does not care that you are stupid. Just don’t join a fucking insurrection and try to overturn Biden’s win. Something Q-ish us coming March 4 . We only care that you don’t do any violent stuff like that.
Now that Trump is a civilian if he thinks the election was stolen he should be suing who he thinks stole it from him.
You can thank me some day when you realize (like theQAnon Shaman) what a duped fool you’ve been staying loyal to that incompetent lying insurrectionist fascist jackass.
Who changed the old rules?My point is, that if you liked the old rules so much, you should not have thrown them out the window....
I am not respecting the peaceful transfer of power either.
These same rules have been around for generations!
Big money in politics, corporate corruption, these were there since the Gilded Age! The Military Industrial Complex has been there from WWII at least! We had more and more successful elite “manufacturing of consent” in the past than we do today!
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It's all they have. They're programmed to flatly deny and change the subject when their back is against the wall.Your whataboutism is for cowards. Try something better. The protesters for George Floyd didn't kill five people at the Capitol.This trial isn't about losing. It's about exposing the traitors to this country within the GOP. We have confirmed who they are. It was always known they wouldn't convict. But now they were brought out into the open. That's what was won. They will be labeled forever.You stupid fuck. This case is a foregone conclusion. You’ve already lost. Seems like you’re an idiot. Nothing new there.No, we have better things to do than listen to what is a foregone conclusion. Meaning that you lose again.The fact that this entire forum is very quiet shows that the Trumpers have zero case.
Isn't it your political cult that lost? You sound like a salty loser projecting his insecurities upon everybody else. What else is new?
Exposing traitors by violating the Constitution? All that does is expose the stupidity of the Leftists.
But you don't call them 'traitors' at all, do you?
You call them traitors because you disagree with their politics.
I call them traitors because they were incited into an insurrection of our nation's Capitol building over butthurt due to losing a fair election and causing vandalism, violence and even death. All because they couldn't deal with the result of a legit election. Here's a middle finger in your face.
The only thing this election result shows this far is that most of us 'real Americans' don't like you Cult45 pissants very much. So, kindly, with as much unity as I can stomach, go fuck yourselves.
Were you saying that during the George Floyd riots last year?
