What are the chances of a Trump re-election WITHOUT a wall?

[kyzr]

If Trump doesn't get his wall because of democrat intransigence then that is a major campaign issue in 2020. I can add it to the other policies Trump can beat their candidate with:
1. Open borders
2. Sanctuary cities
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE
6. Promote Globalism
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out
20. The dems "Central Committee" appoint super-delegates to vote and subvert regular voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud.
31. Colleges only hire liberal professors, and promote only the Leftist perspective, conservatism is not allowed on campus.
32. Democrats refuse to provide any funding for the wall, which DHS says is desperately needed.

The above list was collated by me and not copied from another source

Atta boy...........good for yo to prove that your way up Trump's lying (and orange) ass.....


Whereas any democrat running against the clown could say:

1. Remember that Trump promise of a wall paid for by Mexico???

2. Remember that Trump promise that the ACA would be replaced by a "better, cheaper, covering everybody" plan???

3. Remember that Trump promise for a $550,000 BILLION for an infrastructure plan???

4. Remember that Trump promise that he would balance the budget???

5. Remember that Trump promise that he would eliminate the debt through his tax scam???

6. Remember that Trump promise that he "defeated" ISIS???

7. Remember that Trump promise that he would "drain the swamp" while most of his own swamp was being sent to prison???

Etc. etc, etc,......................LOL

1. Mexico can still pay for the wall if Trump adds a tax on "remittances"
GOP lawmaker wants to tax money sent to Latin America

2. The illegal ACA will be replaced by better healthcare plans. Its in the courts.

3. Infrastructure is not dead, but paying for it is a problem

4. No I don't recall Trump promising to balance the Budget?

5. No I don't recall Trump promising to eliminate the Debt via tax cuts? He said they would increase the GDP, which it did

6. Trump defeated ISIS, Obama's JV Team....

7. Trump is draining the "deep state" swamp, including Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, etc.

 

[jknowgood]

If the democrats block this, Trump will gain support.

Sure.........Look at the orange moron's "approval" ratings and look at how many Americans want those wasted billions for that wall.......and look how rosy Trump's legal future is panning out to be.......Stay a Trump ass kisser, no one gives a flying fuck.

Look at the negative reporting on him, and you still cannot destroy him. Obama wouldn't of survied it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If the democrats block this, Trump will gain support.

Sure.........Look at the orange moron's "approval" ratings and look at how many Americans want those wasted billions for that wall.......and look how rosy Trump's legal future is panning out to be.......Stay a Trump ass kisser, no one gives a flying fuck.

If Trumps approval by the people were as bad as the left-wing pollsters say it is, we wouldn't have gained Senate seats. In fact we would have lost quite a bit. Election results showed that Republicans and Democrats both had huge turnouts last election; the largest since 1929 on both sides. That is the exact opposite of what those approval ratings say about Trump.

 

[nat4900]

You can indict Trump for the crime of hiring others? Manafort's crimes were 10 years old, Flynn's was a perjury trap, Cohen is just a slimy NYC lawyer/crook, Popadopulus was also a perjury trap. Nothing on Trump.
The FBI had much more on Hillary, but refused to prosecute. So much for equal justice.

Yes, yes............LOL

Donald J. Trump - I am self funding and will hire the best... | Facebook

Poll: Most Americans think Trump doesn't 'hire the best people' - Politico

What happened to the 'best and most serious people'? | TheHill

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump will get his wall

It will surround his prison

Maybe he's lucky a sitting president can't be indicted?
Then again, he has the money and toughness to beat any bullshit charges Mueller and his dem cohorts come up with.

The Vegas odds favor Trump replacing Ruthie before he gets in legal trouble from the incompetent dem clown car investigations

The odds also favor Trump not finishing his term

You mean the same odds that said he won't make it past the first primary debate?
The same odds that said he has zero chance at winning the primary?
The same odds that said he had no chance against Hillary?
The same odds that said he will not be inaugurated?
The same odds that said he won't make it past the first month of the presidency?

These are not odds being handed to you, these are leftist hopeful dreams which will never come true.

 

[Kondor3]

If Trump doesn't get his wall because of democrat intransigence then that is a major campaign issue in 2020. I can add it to the other policies Trump can beat their candidate with...

1. Open borders --- True
2. Sanctuary cities --- True
3. Free college --- Maybe --- and not a good idea; more affordable? Maybe. Free. Nope. Cheapens the value of a degree.
4. Single Payer Healthcare --- Maybe --- not such a bad idea - on paper, anyway
5. Eliminate ICE --- True --- to be prevented at nearly any cost ( a Trump presidency is beyond that scope )
6. Promote Globalism --- True
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries --- True
8. Stupid trade agreements --- True
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property --- True
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems --- it's not like Trump-and-Company are doing any better.
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas --- worker-bees make slave wages in Mexico, China, India, etc., taxes or no taxes
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs --- only for inner-city minorities --- everybody else gets scraps
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US --- non-issue
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US --- not really --- although Libs will go far more lightly on those that exist
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products --- True
16. No new pipelines --- True
17. No offshore drilling --- True
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism --- Maybe
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out --- Not really
20. The dems "Central Committee" appoint super-delegates to vote and subvert regular voters in primaries --- True
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies --- not much chance of that in the near future
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh --- doubtful
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives --- Possibly
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier --- Maybe
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam --- Doubtful
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results --- Silly
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat. --- there are Black conservatives? What... like 20, in the entire country?
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone --- True
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates. --- Nahhhh --- GOP lowlifes get into that kinda $hit all the time without assistance
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud. --- Likely
31. Colleges only hire liberal professors, and promote only the Leftist perspective, conservatism is not allowed on campus. --- Duplicate of earlier item
32. Democrats refuse to provide any funding for the wall, which DHS says is desperately needed. --- the wall is a dumb idea.

...The above list was collated by me and not copied from another source

Not bad...

 

[nat4900]

If Trump doesn't get his wall because of democrat intransigence then that is a major campaign issue in 2020. I can add it to the other policies Trump can beat their candidate with:
1. Open borders
2. Sanctuary cities
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE
6. Promote Globalism
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out
20. The dems "Central Committee" appoint super-delegates to vote and subvert regular voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud.
31. Colleges only hire liberal professors, and promote only the Leftist perspective, conservatism is not allowed on campus.
32. Democrats refuse to provide any funding for the wall, which DHS says is desperately needed.

The above list was collated by me and not copied from another source

Atta boy...........good for yo to prove that your way up Trump's lying (and orange) ass.....


Whereas any democrat running against the clown could say:

1. Remember that Trump promise of a wall paid for by Mexico???

2. Remember that Trump promise that the ACA would be replaced by a "better, cheaper, covering everybody" plan???

3. Remember that Trump promise for a $550,000 BILLION for an infrastructure plan???

4. Remember that Trump promise that he would balance the budget???

5. Remember that Trump promise that he would eliminate the debt through his tax scam???

6. Remember that Trump promise that he "defeated" ISIS???

7. Remember that Trump promise that he would "drain the swamp" while most of his own swamp was being sent to prison???

Etc. etc, etc,......................LOL

1. Mexico can still pay for the wall if Trump adds a tax on "remittances"
GOP lawmaker wants to tax money sent to Latin America

2. The illegal ACA will be replaced by better healthcare plans. Its in the courts.

3. Infrastructure is not dead, but paying for it is a problem

4. No I don't recall Trump promising to balance the Budget?

5. No I don't recall Trump promising to eliminate the Debt via tax cuts? He said they would increase the GDP, which it did

6. Trump defeated ISIS, Obama's JV Team....

7. Trump is draining the "deep state" swamp, including Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, etc.

You forgot the part about Papa Bear and the porridge.......LOL

 

[nat4900]

Look at the negative reporting on him, and you still cannot destroy him. Obama wouldn't of survied it.

...and to right wing, Trump ass lickers, all that "negative reporting" is ........

 

[nat4900]

If Trumps approval by the people were as bad as the left-wing pollsters say it is, we wouldn't have gained Senate seats. In fact we would have lost quite a bit. Election results showed that Republicans and Democrats both had huge turnouts last election; the largest since 1929 on both sides. That is the exact opposite of what those approval ratings say about Trump.

Don't be an eternal moron on here........Those senate seats gained were almost all in vivid red states........Look at 2020 and how many GOP senate seats your ilk is going to have to defend........in the soon-to-be recession and scandal-ridden administration.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

..and to right wing, Trump ass lickers, all that "negative reporting" is ........

Factual.

Anti-Trump Media? 92% Of Coverage Of His Presidency Is Negative: Study | Investor's Business Daily

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Trumps approval by the people were as bad as the left-wing pollsters say it is, we wouldn't have gained Senate seats. In fact we would have lost quite a bit. Election results showed that Republicans and Democrats both had huge turnouts last election; the largest since 1929 on both sides. That is the exact opposite of what those approval ratings say about Trump.

Don't be an eternal moron on here........Those senate seats gained were almost all in vivid red states........Look at 2020 and how many GOP senate seats your ilk is going to have to defend........in the soon-to-be recession and scandal-ridden administration.

Recession? From what? The economy hasn't been this good in nearly a half-century. Again, wishful leftist thinking.

If Trump was so disliked, he wouldn't have drawn as many Republican voters to the polls as he did. In places where he supported the Republican candidate, they won. Through the promotion of hate and lies, the anti-white party with the help of the MSM were able to draw a bigger crowd of Democrats.

 

[candycorn]

What are the chances of a Trump re-election WITHOUT a wall?

I dunno.

Ask Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter...

They're runnin' the country at the moment anyway...

Very true. Trump sees how his latest spasm is playing in the press and then acts accordingly.

As for the 2020 election, in our binary system; it largely depends on whether the soft GOP can hold their nose and vote for the Democrat on the ticket. I think the soft DEMs are going to be largely vacant from the Trump column based on the performance; tax breaks not doing much, markets in turmoil, the never-ending crisis atmosphere, the ocean of sleaze that surrounds him….etc… Trump’s record isn’t going to be enough to win the day by itself. He’ll need a wounded DEM.

 

[candycorn]

..and to right wing, Trump ass lickers, all that "negative reporting" is ........

Factual.

Anti-Trump Media? 92% Of Coverage Of His Presidency Is Negative: Study | Investor's Business Daily

Ever wonder why he gets the negative coverage he gets?

 

[jknowgood]

Look at the negative reporting on him, and you still cannot destroy him. Obama wouldn't of survied it.

...and to right wing, Trump ass lickers, all that "negative reporting" is ........

Wonder why the mefia isn't reporting on the hepatitis outbreak in California? That's coming from the illegals.

 

[Care4all]

Look at the negative reporting on him, and you still cannot destroy him. Obama wouldn't of survied it.

...and to right wing, Trump ass lickers, all that "negative reporting" is ........

Wonder why the mefia isn't reporting on the hepatitis outbreak in California? That's coming from the illegals.

the hepatitis outbreak ended in January 2018, a year ago....!!

And it came from the homeless....

 

[kyzr]

If Trump doesn't get his wall because of democrat intransigence then that is a major campaign issue in 2020. I can add it to the other policies Trump can beat their candidate with...

1. Open borders --- True
2. Sanctuary cities --- True
3. Free college --- more affordable? Maybe. Free. Nope. Cheapens the value of a degree. Dems want it Growing number of Democrats run on free college, pushing issue into mainstream
4. Single Payer Healthcare --- Maybe --- not such a bad idea - on paper, anyway How expensive would a single-payer system be? its unaffordable
5. Eliminate ICE --- True --- to be prevented at nearly any cost ( a Trump presidency is beyond that scope )
6. Promote Globalism --- True
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries --- True
8. Stupid trade agreements --- True
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property --- True
10. Let NK develop nukes and delivery systems --- it's not like Trump-and-Company are doing any better. NK stopped nuke and missile tests, Trump will not let NK keep developing unopposed, stay tuned...
11. Tax corporations so they relocate overseas --- worker-bees make slave wages in Mexico, China, India, etc., taxes or no taxes The dems want high corporate taxes, Trump lowered them to be competitive
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs --- only for inner-city minorities --- everybody else gets scraps
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US --- non-issue Major issue 70,000 deaths a year Trump is fighting illegal drugs

14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US --- not really --- although Libs will go far more lightly on those that exist I'll agree that dems are not nearly as tough on gangs as Trump
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products --- True
16. No new pipelines --- True
17. No offshore drilling --- True
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism --- Maybe
19. Colleges deny any speakers except liberals and indoctrinate kids to be lifelong liberals or flunk out --- Not really Yes really, antifa riots as well as other protests if a conservative tries to speak. Conservative views affect grades

20. The dems "Central Committee" appoint super-delegates to vote and subvert regular voters in primaries --- True
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies --- not much chance of that in the near future
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh --- doubtful
Impeaching Kavanaugh rouses progressive Democrats after confirmation
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives --- Possibly
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and published the phony Steele Dossier --- Maybe
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam --- Doubtful I can't think of one good reason to sell uranium to Russia, can you?
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results --- Silly It happens, how do you explain the 300,000 to 0 precinct results?

27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat. --- there are Black conservatives? What... like 20, in the entire country? I never see Candace Owens or other conservative blacks on MSNBC or CNN. Yet FXN always has liberals to debate with.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger. Stop and frisk saved lives, democrat Chicago is a war zone --- True
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates. --- Nahhhh --- GOP lowlifes get into that kinda $hit all the time without assistance
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud. --- Likely
31. Colleges only hire liberal professors, and promote only the Leftist perspective, conservatism is not allowed on campus. --- Duplicate of earlier item No, #19 was prohibiting conservative speakers, not profs
32. Democrats refuse to provide any funding for the wall, which DHS says is desperately needed. --- the wall is a dumb idea. The wall is a necessity, DHS wants it, it works, it can pay for itself with cost savings, and Mexico can pay for it via a tax on "remittances" when money is sent from the US to foreign countries
GOP lawmaker wants to tax money sent to Latin America

...The above list was collated by me and not copied from another source

Not bad...

Thanks, you're the first poster to give comments to me on my dem policy list. I have a few rebuttals above in red font:

 

[Bad Dad]

I don't think Trump's campaign is that linked to the wall. It was a campaign promise and a chant but it would not cost him an election. There is a portion of his base that the wall electrified but they would be happy with the Muslim ban and his attempts at getting wall funding. In 2020 (if he runs) he will blame Democrats for obstructing him and those supporters would continue to vote Trump. They would vote for Trump in the hopes of an election year route that brings him back to complete power and he would then get his wall.

 

[Bad Dad]

Look at the negative reporting on him, and you still cannot destroy him. Obama wouldn't of survied it.

...and to right wing, Trump ass lickers, all that "negative reporting" is ........

Wonder why the mefia isn't reporting on the hepatitis outbreak in California? That's coming from the illegals.

the hepatitis outbreak ended in January 2018, a year ago....!!

And it came from the homeless....

That is what I was remembering about the hepatitis outbreak. Someone a while back on another forum made that claim about it being the immigrants. Turns out it was on our side of the border near a body of water the homeless were using for bathing and drinking and relieving themselves.

 

[candycorn]

I don't think Trump's campaign is that linked to the wall. It was a campaign promise and a chant but it would not cost him an election. There is a portion of his base that the wall electrified but they would be happy with the Muslim ban and his attempts at getting wall funding. In 2020 (if he runs) he will blame Democrats for obstructing him and those supporters would continue to vote Trump. They would vote for Trump in the hopes of an election year route that brings him back to complete power and he would then get his wall.

The blob’s base will never abandon him. There is nowhere else to go.
The soft support he has may abandon him depending on the alternatives. So far, the Democrats are doing the same stupid things that lead to them losing both houses of Congress not too long ago.

 

[Kittymom1026]

My guy takes care of many things here, and because he has a degree in Engineering and can fix just about anything. He is a Gulf War Vet and has what was listed as Gulf War Syndrome. They changed the name but I can't remember what it is. Anyhow, as a result, he gets VA disability and also SS disability...

I know this makes you want to throw up because you are the complete opposite. Too bad.

Please pass my sincere gratitude for his service on to him.

Honestly, I don’t care about your relationship. I’m confident you will both get your just rewards after you pass away.

Have a nice evening.

Just rewards for what? Being decent, caring people?