What Happens If Republicans Get Total Control ?

[blackhawk]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

 

[protectionist]

The question more precisely (but to big for an OP title) is >> If by January 2017, we find ourselves in a country where Republican control the presidency + both houses of Congress (and increasing leverage in the SCOTUS), what will happen then ?

I suspect first the pandering we've seen lately (to Hispanics, immigrants, et al) will disappear in heartbeat) The Republican party will be solidly against the things it has been all along >> immigration (esp. illegal), Islamization, affirmative action, abortion, excessive gun control, etc. It will be for what it's been for > death penalty, strong military,
law enforcement, etc. I would guess most Americans would support them on these positions. (as would I)

HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION THOUGH >>
What would this Republican govt do regarding our monthly SOCIAL SECURITY & VA PAYMENTS ? Would they be cut ? Stay the same ? This may be what has been preventing Republicans from winning scores of elections, including the White House. The nagging fear that if they get power, our financial lifelines may go down the tubes.

???????????????

What have the republicans worked for since Obama came to office: POWER. I suspect the first thing they would do is to pass laws making it more difficult for Democrats and liberals to vote. That way they can insure that no one can take that power away from them. Isn't that going on in some of the red states where governors are working to require photo ID's before a person could vote. How about adding this roadblock: All voting Americans must go to a government location and take a loyality oath before being allowed to vote. In the Democratic districts there would be few places to take that oath but in republican districts they would be all over the place. Who is going to stop this from happening? The second thing they would do is overturn the two term limit on being president. With that rule overturned the republicans will have been successful in turning the US from a democracy into a dictatorship. Those on the right who finally realize what they done will try to oppose the presidency but it will be to late and they will be quickly rounded up by the army and imprisoned for crimes against the state. Any judges who would opppose what was going on would be removed from office. After all, with a republican Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court firmly in charge, who is going to stop them from getting rid of all Democratic or liberal judges? In short, those who want to know what would happen if republicans had total control of the federal government need only look at Russia. The rich would control the government and it would be financed by the poor and middle class. Say goodby to all those social safety nets the republicans have worked to repeal since FDR. Social Security, gone! Medicare, gone! Medicade, gone! ACA, gone! Unemployment insurance, gone! SNAP benefits for the poor, gone! EPA, gone! Democracy, gone!

Upon WHAT do you base your notion that Social Security will be gone ? Also, you didn't mention other question of the OP > VA payments.

 

[ron4342]

Democrats are afraid that if republicans take control the democrats will have to stop killing off the veterans to save money. The more vets that die, the more money for parties.

How can one person end up so ignorant of what is going on right in front of them. Under each bold line there is a link that will take you to the article where you can verify the statement being made.
Republicans block Senate bill to boost veterans' benefits
Republicans block Senate bill to boost veterans' benefits - CSMonitor.com
GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans
GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry | Reuters

 

[protectionist]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

 

[thereisnospoon]

The question more precisely (but to big for an OP title) is >> If by January 2017, we find ourselves in a country where Republican control the presidency + both houses of Congress (and increasing leverage in the SCOTUS), what will happen then ?

I suspect first the pandering we've seen lately (to Hispanics, immigrants, et al) will disappear in heartbeat) The Republican party will be solidly against the things it has been all along >> immigration (esp. illegal), Islamization, affirmative action, abortion, excessive gun control, etc. It will be for what it's been for > death penalty, strong military,
law enforcement, etc. I would guess most Americans would support them on these positions. (as would I)

HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION THOUGH >>
What would this Republican govt do regarding our monthly SOCIAL SECURITY & VA PAYMENTS ? Would they be cut ? Stay the same ? This may be what has been preventing Republicans from winning scores of elections, including the White House. The nagging fear that if they get power, our financial lifelines may go down the tubes.

???????????????

What have the republicans worked for since Obama came to office: POWER. I suspect the first thing they would do is to pass laws making it more difficult for Democrats and liberals to vote. That way they can insure that no one can take that power away from them. Isn't that going on in some of the red states where governors are working to require photo ID's before a person could vote. How about adding this roadblock: All voting Americans must go to a government location and take a loyality oath before being allowed to vote. In the Democratic districts there would be few places to take that oath but in republican districts they would be all over the place. Who is going to stop this from happening? The second thing they would do is overturn the two term limit on being president. With that rule overturned the republicans will have been successful in turning the US from a democracy into a dictatorship. Those on the right who finally realize what they done will try to oppose the presidency but it will be to late and they will be quickly rounded up by the army and imprisoned for crimes against the state. Any judges who would opppose what was going on would be removed from office. After all, with a republican Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court firmly in charge, who is going to stop them from getting rid of all Democratic or liberal judges? In short, those who want to know what would happen if republicans had total control of the federal government need only look at Russia. The rich would control the government and it would be financed by the poor and middle class. Say goodby to all those social safety nets the republicans have worked to repeal since FDR. Social Security, gone! Medicare, gone! Medicade, gone! ACA, gone! Unemployment insurance, gone! SNAP benefits for the poor, gone! EPA, gone! Democracy, gone!

You should start your own conspiracy theory blog.

 

[Katzndogz]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

They will be protected just like republicans have always protected them. Democrats have been using the same mythical fears over social security and veterans benefits forever. So far, the only confirmed veteran kills are during democrat administrations.

 

[protectionist]

Democrats are afraid that if republicans take control the democrats will have to stop killing off the veterans to save money. The more vets that die, the more money for parties.

How can one person end up so ignorant of what is going on right in front of them. Under each bold line there is a link that will take you to the article where you can verify the statement being made.
Republicans block Senate bill to boost veterans' benefits
Republicans block Senate bill to boost veterans' benefits - CSMonitor.com
GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans
GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry | Reuters

These don't really talk about CUTTING VA benefits, but by the same token, they are pretty strong stuff, in their own right. Well, Republicans. What say you about all these ?

 

[B. Kidd]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

After 2008, we got a liberal agenda farther left than just the standard!

 

[Redfish]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

which president merged social security funds with the general fund and what party did he belong to? Hint----LBJ

no one in either party is going to cut SS or VA-----those programs represent too many votes.

 

[Two Thumbs]

The question more precisely (but to big for an OP title) is >> If by January 2017, we find ourselves in a country where Republican control the presidency + both houses of Congress (and increasing leverage in the SCOTUS), what will happen then ?

I suspect first the pandering we've seen lately (to Hispanics, immigrants, et al) will disappear in heartbeat) The Republican party will be solidly against the things it has been all along >> immigration (esp. illegal), Islamization, affirmative action, abortion, excessive gun control, etc. It will be for what it's been for > death penalty, strong military,
law enforcement, etc. I would guess most Americans would support them on these positions. (as would I)

HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION THOUGH >>

What would this Republican govt do regarding our monthly SOCIAL SECURITY & VA PAYMENTS ? Would they be cut ? Stay the same ? This may be what has been preventing Republicans from winning scores of elections, including the White House. The nagging fear that if they get power, our financial lifelines may go down the tubes.

???????????????

SS and VA would increase with inflation

SS may be handed over to the private sector to create some profit and sustainability.

reps are not anti-immigrant, they are anti illegal alien.

Aside from that, it depends on what kind of reps are in control.
moderates = the Fed keeps growing, the debt rises, things get worse, just slower.
RR = abortion becomes a state right and gets shut down. religious tyranny
cons = Fed bank gets audited, spending gets cut, irs might get closed as taxes are simplified, foreign bases might be closed as we turn over responsibility, AA dies as it should have long ago, useless regs removed creating jobs, taxes reduced creating jobs.


but I have no faith in the gop, none.

 

[earlycuyler]

What Happens If Republicans Get Total Control ? = Jobs,less tax, stronger military, keystone pipeline, real respect fot the USA world wide, strong support for tiny Israel, anti-abortion,anti- sexual perversion, IN GOD WE TRUST!

What about SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

Makes for good lip service and good bumper stickers and campaigns slogans, but in the end they care as much about that as the other side does. Republicans on capital hill are just Democrats with R's after their names.

 

[protectionist]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

They will be protected just like republicans have always protected them. Democrats have been using the same mythical fears over social security and veterans benefits forever. So far, the only confirmed veteran kills are during democrat administrations.

But when was the last time there was a full Republican control ? (Presidency & both houses) And there's quite a few different faces in the Congress now. Just wondering.

 

[ron4342]

The question more precisely (but to big for an OP title) is >> If by January 2017, we find ourselves in a country where Republican control the presidency + both houses of Congress (and increasing leverage in the SCOTUS), what will happen then ?

I suspect first the pandering we've seen lately (to Hispanics, immigrants, et al) will disappear in heartbeat) The Republican party will be solidly against the things it has been all along >> immigration (esp. illegal), Islamization, affirmative action, abortion, excessive gun control, etc. It will be for what it's been for > death penalty, strong military,
law enforcement, etc. I would guess most Americans would support them on these positions. (as would I)

HERE'S THE BIG QUESTION THOUGH >>
What would this Republican govt do regarding our monthly SOCIAL SECURITY & VA PAYMENTS ? Would they be cut ? Stay the same ? This may be what has been preventing Republicans from winning scores of elections, including the White House. The nagging fear that if they get power, our financial lifelines may go down the tubes.

???????????????

What have the republicans worked for since Obama came to office: POWER. I suspect the first thing they would do is to pass laws making it more difficult for Democrats and liberals to vote. That way they can insure that no one can take that power away from them. Isn't that going on in some of the red states where governors are working to require photo ID's before a person could vote. How about adding this roadblock: All voting Americans must go to a government location and take a loyality oath before being allowed to vote. In the Democratic districts there would be few places to take that oath but in republican districts they would be all over the place. Who is going to stop this from happening? The second thing they would do is overturn the two term limit on being president. With that rule overturned the republicans will have been successful in turning the US from a democracy into a dictatorship. Those on the right who finally realize what they done will try to oppose the presidency but it will be to late and they will be quickly rounded up by the army and imprisoned for crimes against the state. Any judges who would opppose what was going on would be removed from office. After all, with a republican Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court firmly in charge, who is going to stop them from getting rid of all Democratic or liberal judges? In short, those who want to know what would happen if republicans had total control of the federal government need only look at Russia. The rich would control the government and it would be financed by the poor and middle class. Say goodby to all those social safety nets the republicans have worked to repeal since FDR. Social Security, gone! Medicare, gone! Medicade, gone! ACA, gone! Unemployment insurance, gone! SNAP benefits for the poor, gone! EPA, gone! Democracy, gone!

Upon WHAT do you base your notion that Social Security will be gone ? Also, you didn't mention other question of the OP > VA payments.

When FDR established Social Security the gop did everything in their power to repeal it. They treated it pretty much the same as they have treated ACA.

Chief among the New Deal’s features conservatives have spent nearly 80 years attempting to eliminate is the Social Security Trust primarily because it helps the American people and does not enrich corporations and the wealthy.

"Over the past five years, the GOP and their conservative backers have spread lies and misinformation about Social Security and were successful in labeling it an “entitlement” to portray it as a handout that contributes to lazy Americans’ culture of dependency on government."

Surely you have heard republicans calling SS an entitlement and their demanding that entitlements be ended. I really suggest you check out the link below for a clear explanation of why the gop wants to kill SS.

Republicans Won't Admit that Cutting Social Security Is Stealing From the American People

 

[protectionist]

What Happens If Republicans Get Total Control ? = Jobs,less tax, stronger military, keystone pipeline, real respect fot the USA world wide, strong support for tiny Israel, anti-abortion,anti- sexual perversion, IN GOD WE TRUST!

What about SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

Makes for good lip service and good bumper stickers and campaigns slogans, but in the end they care as much about that as the other side does. Republicans on capital hill are just Democrats with R's after their names.

What makes you so sure ?

 

[blackhawk]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

Nothing will change at least not in the negative either party doing that would be committing political suicide.

 

[S.J.]

By then, the debt will be so overwhelming the interest alone will consume most of our GDP and there won't be much left to fund S.S. or anything else. That's what the Republicans will have to deal with. The Democrats have already killed the economy, it just hasn't fallen down yet.

 

[ron4342]

What Happens If Republicans Get Total Control ? = Jobs,less tax, stronger military, keystone pipeline, real respect fot the USA world wide, strong support for tiny Israel, anti-abortion,anti- sexual perversion, IN GOD WE TRUST!

What about SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

Makes for good lip service and good bumper stickers and campaigns slogans, but in the end they care as much about that as the other side does. Republicans on capital hill are just Democrats with R's after their names.

I do not understand how one could look at what is going on today and make the statement you made. Consider the following:
ACA
Increased SNAP benefits
Equal pay for equal work
Lengthened unemployment insurance.
Increased aid for vets.
Those are five bills that Democrats put forward. They were designed to help the people and they were all voted against by the republicans. Still don't believe me that Democrats and republicans are not the same, list 5 bills that republicans have put forward to help Americans.

 

[protectionist]

What have the republicans worked for since Obama came to office: POWER. I suspect the first thing they would do is to pass laws making it more difficult for Democrats and liberals to vote. That way they can insure that no one can take that power away from them. Isn't that going on in some of the red states where governors are working to require photo ID's before a person could vote. How about adding this roadblock: All voting Americans must go to a government location and take a loyality oath before being allowed to vote. In the Democratic districts there would be few places to take that oath but in republican districts they would be all over the place. Who is going to stop this from happening? The second thing they would do is overturn the two term limit on being president. With that rule overturned the republicans will have been successful in turning the US from a democracy into a dictatorship. Those on the right who finally realize what they done will try to oppose the presidency but it will be to late and they will be quickly rounded up by the army and imprisoned for crimes against the state. Any judges who would opppose what was going on would be removed from office. After all, with a republican Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court firmly in charge, who is going to stop them from getting rid of all Democratic or liberal judges? In short, those who want to know what would happen if republicans had total control of the federal government need only look at Russia. The rich would control the government and it would be financed by the poor and middle class. Say goodby to all those social safety nets the republicans have worked to repeal since FDR. Social Security, gone! Medicare, gone! Medicade, gone! ACA, gone! Unemployment insurance, gone! SNAP benefits for the poor, gone! EPA, gone! Democracy, gone!

Upon WHAT do you base your notion that Social Security will be gone ? Also, you didn't mention other question of the OP > VA payments.

When FDR established Social Security the gop did everything in their power to repeal it. They treated it pretty much the same as they have treated ACA.

Chief among the New Deal’s features conservatives have spent nearly 80 years attempting to eliminate is the Social Security Trust primarily because it helps the American people and does not enrich corporations and the wealthy.

"Over the past five years, the GOP and their conservative backers have spread lies and misinformation about Social Security and were successful in labeling it an “entitlement” to portray it as a handout that contributes to lazy Americans’ culture of dependency on government."

Surely you have heard republicans calling SS an entitlement and their demanding that entitlements be ended. I really suggest you check out the link below for a clear explanation of why the gop wants to kill SS.

Republicans Won't Admit that Cutting Social Security Is Stealing From the American People

Actually, I haven't heard what the Republicans have said about Social Security, which is one of the reasons why I wrote this OP. The link story is interesting, however it mentions the word "Republicans" repeatedly, but I don't recall seeing a single QUOTE in it, from a single Republican, that says they want to cut Social Security.

 

[ron4342]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

Nothing will change at least not in the negative either party doing that would be committing political suicide.

It will only be political suicide IF there is a fair vote and they can be voted out of office. With a republican Congress, a republican President, and a Republican Supreme Court they could suspend elections and who would stop them?

 

[protectionist]

You will get the standard conservative agenda just as we got the standard liberal agenda after 2008.

Which means WHAT concerning >> SOCIAL SECURITY & VA BENEFITS ?????????

Nothing will change at least not in the negative either party doing that would be committing political suicide.

I have always tended to agree with that notion, however with Social Security and VA benefits the risk factor is so high, that a major evidence factor needs to show up to offset it. So far I just haven't seen it.