What Is The Republican Alternative To ObamaCare

By getting those who either are too poor, or too irresponsible, to cover their own healthcare costs, out of emergency rooms and into much more cost effective care.

Are costs in the healthcare system primarily rising because of unpaid "emergency room visits"? I heard this was a tiny fraction of the problem, and that hospitals generally independently picked up these costs (not taxpayers). Secondly, if we're worried about this how about we just expand medicaid a bit and forget about the rest of the ACA? I'm fine with medicaid...

To reduce the business cost of sick time.
How so?

To enable better informed shopping for health care insurance. Reward the cost effective companies and make the others pay for their mismanagement.


To reduce the education ineffectiveness of student sick time.

Lol come on man.. Are you seriously trying to convince me that Obamacare will reduce the overall costs of the healthcare system by using the statement it "reduces the education ineffectiveness of student sick time"?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think you can give me something just a tad more convincing...

I appreciate your willingness to engage, but POS is never going to give you a good discussion. I would ask that you wonder over to the CDZ and take up some of those threads. It seems that the left and right don't really like it when they can't flame....hence it is pretty dead over there....most unfortunate.
 
It's all about 'Crisis.' Big Brother keeps the Sheep in a permanent state of anxiety and panic. The Country will cease to exist if we don't get that Amnesty by next Friday. How long are Americans gonna be duped?
 
We have a right to have bad insurance.

Your messiah tells you what bad insurance is, PMZ.
The government lies to get this Obamacare sold and you think nothing of it?
You're a tool and nothing more.

Your messiah tells you what bad insurance is, Meister.

Selling Republican do nothing is a tough job but by managing the truth, and scrubbing brains, Fox Opinions is up to it.

Do you ever stop and do any critical thinking on your own? Or, do you just regurgitate the talking points from your echo chamber cheat sheets?

See you are just a tool.....embrace it, son.
 
By getting those who either are too poor, or too irresponsible, to cover their own healthcare costs, out of emergency rooms and into much more cost effective care.

Are costs in the healthcare system primarily rising because of unpaid "emergency room visits"? I heard this was a tiny fraction of the problem, and that hospitals generally independently picked up these costs (not taxpayers). Secondly, if we're worried about this how about we just expand medicaid a bit and forget about the rest of the ACA? I'm fine with medicaid...


How so?

To enable better informed shopping for health care insurance. Reward the cost effective companies and make the others pay for their mismanagement.


To reduce the education ineffectiveness of student sick time.

Lol come on man.. Are you seriously trying to convince me that Obamacare will reduce the overall costs of the healthcare system by using the statement it "reduces the education ineffectiveness of student sick time"?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think you can give me something just a tad more convincing...

I appreciate your willingness to engage, but POS is never going to give you a good discussion. I would ask that you wonder over to the CDZ and take up some of those threads. It seems that the left and right don't really like it when they can't flame....hence it is pretty dead over there....most unfortunate.

Lol, just trying my best.
 
Exactly, "Obamacare" was packaged and sold as a vehicle to insure the uninsured and reduce premiums.
It wasn't packaged and sold as to knock people out of their insurance policies that they liked, nor was it packaged and sold as to what was a good policy and what was a junk policy dictated by our government.
This is tyranny

So because 6/10th of .01% are getting their policies scrapped it's "tyranny"?

What about the 17 Million kids with pre-existing conditions that can't be kicked off their parent's policies? That tyranny too?

What about the 40 Million or so that couldn't get insurance before, now getting it. That Tyranny too?

What about the 45K Americans dying EACH YEAR because of no insurance prior to ObamaCare. Was that FREEDOM??

:lol:

Those are meaningless slogans.

Death is hardly meaningless. Even for a poor person.
 
One thing is clear. There are millions of people who have such a shallow understanding of health insurance that they better stay employed by someone who gives it to them. They wouldn't stand a chance on their own.
 
So because 6/10th of .01% are getting their policies scrapped it's "tyranny"?

What about the 17 Million kids with pre-existing conditions that can't be kicked off their parent's policies? That tyranny too?

What about the 40 Million or so that couldn't get insurance before, now getting it. That Tyranny too?

What about the 45K Americans dying EACH YEAR because of no insurance prior to ObamaCare. Was that FREEDOM??

:lol:

Those are meaningless slogans.

Death is hardly meaningless. Even for a poor person.

Perhaps he was saying your assumptions were incorrect about the before/after Obamacare picture...
 
Your messiah tells you what bad insurance is, PMZ.
The government lies to get this Obamacare sold and you think nothing of it?
You're a tool and nothing more.

Your messiah tells you what bad insurance is, Meister.

Selling Republican do nothing is a tough job but by managing the truth, and scrubbing brains, Fox Opinions is up to it.

Do you ever stop and do any critical thinking on your own? Or, do you just regurgitate the talking points from your echo chamber cheat sheets?

See you are just a tool.....embrace it, son.

Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.
 
Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.

You do realize the other news networks have also been ripping apart Obamacare, right? Are they incorrect as well?


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw3yoyIw3oM]Pelosi taken apart by David Gregory on false Obamacare promises - YouTube[/ame]
 
Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.

You do realize the other news networks have also been ripping apart Obamacare, right? Are they incorrect as well?


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw3yoyIw3oM]Pelosi taken apart by David Gregory on false Obamacare promises - YouTube[/ame]

The news that I take in doesn't offer opinions. Just facts. My opinions are my own from those facts.
 
Your messiah tells you what bad insurance is, Meister.

Selling Republican do nothing is a tough job but by managing the truth, and scrubbing brains, Fox Opinions is up to it.

Do you ever stop and do any critical thinking on your own? Or, do you just regurgitate the talking points from your echo chamber cheat sheets?

See you are just a tool.....embrace it, son.

Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.

It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out we've been lied to by our president.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that this is a power grab by our president.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that our president is trying to get everyone to fall under his Obamacare exchanges, which will eventually push out private insurance.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that our government will be setting premium rates AND deductibles.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that Obama's reason for extending the signup for the 2015 rates one month from Oct. 2014 to Nov. 2014 is a pure political move to have the rates released until after the 2014 election.
It just takes critical thinking to connect the dots.
Something your are incapable of, PMZ.
 
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Do you ever stop and do any critical thinking on your own? Or, do you just regurgitate the talking points from your echo chamber cheat sheets?

See you are just a tool.....embrace it, son.

Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.

It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out we've been lied to by our president.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that this is a power grab by our president.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that our president is trying to get everyone to fall under his Obamacare exchanges, which will eventually push out private insurance.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that our government will be setting premium rates AND deductibles.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that Obama's reason for extending the signup for the 2015 rates one month from Oct. 2014 to Nov. 2014 is a pure political move to have the rates released until after the 2014 is a purely political move.
It just takes critical thinking to connect the dots.
Something your are incapable of, PMZ.

It absolutely does take Fox Opinions.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????
 
Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.

You do realize the other news networks have also been ripping apart Obamacare, right? Are they incorrect as well?


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw3yoyIw3oM]Pelosi taken apart by David Gregory on false Obamacare promises - YouTube[/ame]

The news that I take in doesn't offer opinions. Just facts. My opinions are my own from those facts.

PMZ: "The news that I take in doesn't offer opinions. Just facts. My opinions are my own from those facts found in my echo chamber talking points cheat sheet." :lol:
 
The news that I take in doesn't offer opinions. Just facts. My opinions are my own from those facts.

Yea, but you missed my point. You keep bringing up Fox news for painting Obamacare in a negative light, but forget that other networks are doing the same thing.

When you say to someone in a derogatory way "keep listening to your Fox news, etc", you should also include "..Fox, CNN, NBC, etc".
 
Dad, you sitting in the Lazy boy sucking up Fox Opinions does not constitute critical thinking on your own.

It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out we've been lied to by our president.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that this is a power grab by our president.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that our president is trying to get everyone to fall under his Obamacare exchanges, which will eventually push out private insurance.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that our government will be setting premium rates AND deductibles.
It doesn't take a genius or Fox opinions to figure out that Obama's reason for extending the signup for the 2015 rates one month from Oct. 2014 to Nov. 2014 is a pure political move to have the rates released until after the 2014 is a purely political move.
It just takes critical thinking to connect the dots.
Something your are incapable of, PMZ.

It absolutely does take Fox Opinions.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????

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[MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION] - Premiums are rising nationwide directly because of the ACA. This is a fact, and not crazy hearsay; happened to me, my wife, and many friends.

If the ACA is designed to make healthcare more affordable, shouldn't premiums go down?

What good does this law do me if I now pay more for less coverage?
 
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[MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION] - Premiums are rising nationwide directly because of the ACA. This is a fact, and not crazy hearsay; happened to me, my wife, and many friends.

If the ACA is designed to make healthcare more affordable, shouldn't premiums go down?

What good does this law do me if I now pay more for less coverage?

Let me give you a little lesson in insurance.

Let's say that your insurance company sells you an automobile policy that includes minimum liability coverage. Have you saved money? The odds say the risk X consequences are about even for either, yes, you have, and bankruptcy. That’s why people elect to spread risk.

If you buy inadequate insurance you are hoping for good fortune. If it doesn't happen, you're relying on others to bail you out.
 
[MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION] - Premiums are rising nationwide directly because of the ACA. This is a fact, and not crazy hearsay; happened to me, my wife, and many friends.

If the ACA is designed to make healthcare more affordable, shouldn't premiums go down?

What good does this law do me if I now pay more for less coverage?

We've been over this a thousand times with PMZ. He will explain to you that it is your fault for being an evil rich republican who defends corporate theft of working class income, by withholding jobs and pay raises to working class producers. In short the lies are justified, by the ends of working class people getting free or reduced cost health care at the expense of the evil rich. PMZ is a socialist / marxist who claims he was a Republican when he had a job. IOW he votes what is best for himself.
 
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[MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION] - Premiums are rising nationwide directly because of the ACA. This is a fact, and not crazy hearsay; happened to me, my wife, and many friends.

If the ACA is designed to make healthcare more affordable, shouldn't premiums go down?

What good does this law do me if I now pay more for less coverage?

You are spending more to reduce the odds of us having to bail you out. If you include our costs to bail you out, the two value propositions are the same.
 

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