“When law and religion conflict, choices have to be made.”

[Andylusion]

Thankfully, no. I also know, however, that sperm aren't a stage of human development, because they have no future without combining with the egg. This is not a logical comparison.

I find it strange you care so deeply for this fetalized egg but you don't give a fuck about starving babies. If you did there wouldn't be any starving babies. Or orphans. Too many orphans for me to believe you value actual living life.

And really we are just animals. What else are we?

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

 

[Andylusion]

Thankfully, no. I also know, however, that sperm aren't a stage of human development, because they have no future without combining with the egg. This is not a logical comparison.

I find it strange you care so deeply for this fetalized egg but you don't give a fuck about starving babies. If you did there wouldn't be any starving babies. Or orphans. Too many orphans for me to believe you value actual living life.

And really we are just animals. What else are we?

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

And another thing.....

There almost is no corporate welfare. It's practically a lie.

The only corporate welfare in the federal budget, if you people bothered to fact check your own made up BS, is all the crap you socialists push with your bad left-wing programs.

Green-energy grants, and solar panels, and battery technology. I worked at a company which shut down a project intentionally, because they knew they could get a grant from the government for the project...... to help build a hybrid bus. The corporate welfare stems from you people, not us. You push a bunch of corporate welfare programs, then blame us for it, and start screaming how we're for corporate welfare. Dumb as rocks, ignorant left-tards. Left-wing ideology is mental illness.

 

[sealybobo]

I find it strange you care so deeply for this fetalized egg but you don't give a fuck about starving babies. If you did there wouldn't be any starving babies. Or orphans. Too many orphans for me to believe you value actual living life.

And really we are just animals. What else are we?

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

The poor pay taxes? Will you tell your Republican friends?

Are you including Medicare Medicare and social security and public schools?

Yes, us liberals demand all of us help the poor. Not just the people who want to. And we see not enough of us want to help. If they did we wouldn't need government involved.

Capitalism has one flaw. It needs poor people to exploit.

Keep in mind government only steps in when it has to. Let me give you a great example. Republicans poison citizens in flint mi water with lead. Flint needs water. The federal government had to help because you didn't feel like helping.

Or Katrina. The feds had to help because you weren't charitable enough

 

[frigidweirdo]

I find it strange you care so deeply for this fetalized egg but you don't give a fuck about starving babies. If you did there wouldn't be any starving babies. Or orphans. Too many orphans for me to believe you value actual living life.

And really we are just animals. What else are we?

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

In China there is not really anything like social programs. Poor people are poor and they deal with it or they don't. People are still poor. They don't have welfare programs making them poor, or keeping them poor, they're kept poor by the fact that every society will generally have poor people. The richest countries in the world will have poor people. They might appear to have a lot of money, but then in real terms they probably don't have much at all.

I'm not disagreeing with that welfare can encourage people to stay in poverty. It depends on the program and how it's administered.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

The poor pay taxes? Will you tell your Republican friends?

Are you including Medicare Medicare and social security and public schools?

Yes, us liberals demand all of us help the poor. Not just the people who want to. And we see not enough of us want to help. If they did we wouldn't need government involved.

Capitalism has one flaw. It needs poor people to exploit.

Keep in mind government only steps in when it has to. Let me give you a great example. Republicans poison citizens in flint mi water with lead. Flint needs water. The federal government had to help because you didn't feel like helping.

Or Katrina. The feds had to help because you weren't charitable enough

Capitalism might need poor people to exploit, however humans in general need poverty in order to be afraid enough to go out there and do things.

 

[sealybobo]

I find it strange you care so deeply for this fetalized egg but you don't give a fuck about starving babies. If you did there wouldn't be any starving babies. Or orphans. Too many orphans for me to believe you value actual living life.

And really we are just animals. What else are we?

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

And another thing.....

There almost is no corporate welfare. It's practically a lie.

The only corporate welfare in the federal budget, if you people bothered to fact check your own made up BS, is all the crap you socialists push with your bad left-wing programs.

Green-energy grants, and solar panels, and battery technology. I worked at a company which shut down a project intentionally, because they knew they could get a grant from the government for the project...... to help build a hybrid bus. The corporate welfare stems from you people, not us. You push a bunch of corporate welfare programs, then blame us for it, and start screaming how we're for corporate welfare. Dumb as rocks, ignorant left-tards. Left-wing ideology is mental illness.

Lots of pork on both sides. I like our pork better than yours.

We need a cenntrist solution. The answer is never a right wing position and usually the left wing position is not even really our position. It's exaggerated by the right.

Point is this is a back and forth I'm not interested in having. We will have to agree to disagree.

Why won't a red state show the rest of us how its done. I want to see a libertarian country or state show us it works.

 

[sealybobo]

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

The poor pay taxes? Will you tell your Republican friends?

Are you including Medicare Medicare and social security and public schools?

Yes, us liberals demand all of us help the poor. Not just the people who want to. And we see not enough of us want to help. If they did we wouldn't need government involved.

Capitalism has one flaw. It needs poor people to exploit.

Keep in mind government only steps in when it has to. Let me give you a great example. Republicans poison citizens in flint mi water with lead. Flint needs water. The federal government had to help because you didn't feel like helping.

Or Katrina. The feds had to help because you weren't charitable enough

Capitalism might need poor people to exploit, however humans in general need poverty in order to be afraid enough to go out there and do things.

Good point. I'm just against having a country with such great wealth being so cheap.

For example making phones affordable for people living in poverty or food stamps. Republicans worry about the fraud and we worry without these programs innocent kids will go hungry and parents won't have the ability to get a job without a phone.

And Republicans honestly believe our goal or intentions are to pay them for their vote in order to keep them on an imaginary plantation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I find it strange you care so deeply for this fetalized egg but you don't give a fuck about starving babies. If you did there wouldn't be any starving babies. Or orphans. Too many orphans for me to believe you value actual living life.

And really we are just animals. What else are we?

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

 

[sealybobo]

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote silly.

 

[sealybobo]

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

Typical Republican hypocracy. My gop buddy tells me his dad died when he was a kid and all the government shit his white mom and him got.

Fact is, you conservatives didn't mind helping people like this but ever since the civil rights era when poor blacks started being allowed to take advantage of these programs.

Only then did you stop caring about the poor. Your racism trumps your religion

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote silly.

"I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote...."


I recognize that you're a fool...but, it seems a stupid fool.

How would you explain, then, yesterday's news:

"Virginia’s McAuliffe to announce restoration of voting rights to 13,000 felons"
Virginia’s McAuliffe to announce restoration of voting rights to 13,000 felons

 

[PoliticalChic]

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

Typical Republican hypocracy. My gop buddy tells me his dad died when he was a kid and all the government shit his white mom and him got.

Fact is, you conservatives didn't mind helping people like this but ever since the civil rights era when poor blacks started being allowed to take advantage of these programs.

Only then did you stop caring about the poor. Your racism trumps your religion

The only folks who don't care about the poor are those who support the Liberal welfare policies....they create the poor.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.
      From Peter Ferrara, “America’s Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb,” chapter five.
   2. "The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."
      
      These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address.
   3. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
      “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”
2. Prior to the War on Poverty, black families remained intact, and the vast majority of black babies were born into two-parent families, with a 28% illegitimacy rate in 1965. Then 49% in ’75; 65% in ’90; 75% in ’95. See also The State Against Blacks

Conservatives understand what Liberals never will: it is not money that solves this problem, but a change in attitude and values.



I've seen your posts.
When I mention 'values,' I fully understand that you and I don't speak the same language.

 

[sealybobo]

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote silly.

"I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote...."


I recognize that you're a fool...but, it seems a stupid fool.

How would you explain, then, yesterday's news:

"Virginia’s McAuliffe to announce restoration of voting rights to 13,000 felons"
Virginia’s McAuliffe to announce restoration of voting rights to 13,000 felons

How many of them will take advantage? How many non felon poor ppl voted in the last midterm? Not many. That's why Republicans win midterms. Low voter turnout. The cons secret weapon.

You can't deny when the numbers prove I'm right.

Dems want more people voting GOP like less

 

[sealybobo]

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

Typical Republican hypocracy. My gop buddy tells me his dad died when he was a kid and all the government shit his white mom and him got.

Fact is, you conservatives didn't mind helping people like this but ever since the civil rights era when poor blacks started being allowed to take advantage of these programs.

Only then did you stop caring about the poor. Your racism trumps your religion

The only folks who don't care about the poor are those who support the Liberal welfare policies....they create the poor.

1. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.
      From Peter Ferrara, “America’s Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb,” chapter five.
   2. "The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."
      
      These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address.
   3. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
      “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”
2. Prior to the War on Poverty, black families remained intact, and the vast majority of black babies were born into two-parent families, with a 28% illegitimacy rate in 1965. Then 49% in ’75; 65% in ’90; 75% in ’95. See also The State Against Blacks

Conservatives understand what Liberals never will: it is not money that solves this problem, but a change in attitude and values.



I've seen your posts.
When I mention 'values,' I fully understand that you and I don't speak the same language.

We understand the conservative position but it doesn't work in the real world.

And you cut welfare at the worst time. During the bush great recession. Now you want to blame Democrats who fixed bush economy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

"Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country."

But they accomplish their goal: keeping Democrats in power.



Over 80% of welfare recipients vote Democrat.

I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote silly.

"I bet you 80% of welfare recipients don't even vote...."


I recognize that you're a fool...but, it seems a stupid fool.

How would you explain, then, yesterday's news:

"Virginia’s McAuliffe to announce restoration of voting rights to 13,000 felons"
Virginia’s McAuliffe to announce restoration of voting rights to 13,000 felons

How many of them will take advantage? How many non felon poor ppl voted in the last midterm? Not many. That's why Republicans win midterms. Low voter turnout. The cons secret weapon.

You can't deny when the numbers prove I'm right.

Dems want more people voting GOP like less

You haven't been right since disco died.

 

[Andylusion]

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

The poor pay taxes? Will you tell your Republican friends?

Are you including Medicare Medicare and social security and public schools?

Yes, us liberals demand all of us help the poor. Not just the people who want to. And we see not enough of us want to help. If they did we wouldn't need government involved.

Capitalism has one flaw. It needs poor people to exploit.

Keep in mind government only steps in when it has to. Let me give you a great example. Republicans poison citizens in flint mi water with lead. Flint needs water. The federal government had to help because you didn't feel like helping.

Or Katrina. The feds had to help because you weren't charitable enough

Socialism has one flaw too. It causes everyone to be poor.

Republicans know the poor pay taxes. You just don't call it that. You call social security and medicare taxes "contributions". If you believe that your crappy social programs are "contributions", then the poor don't pay any federal taxes, and almost half the population pay no tax.

If you realize your socialist programs are a tax, then you realize those programs are the worst poverty created, anti-poor programs to ever exist.

And even then, you also fail to realize just how many of these programs mandate spending at the State level, and local level, both of which tax everyone, including the poor, to pay for them. Obama Care for example, requires states to increase medicaid spending, which in turn requires higher taxes. This includes taxes on gasoline, telephones, property, sales tax, as well as income taxes, at both the state level and local level.

Last year I pulled just $23,000 of taxable income. Of that, I had to pay $3,000, or 13% of my massive income, in taxes, State, Federal, and local.

The vast majority of that money, did not go to military spending. Or the mythical corporate welfare. It went to social programs, of which I got zero benefit.

Every single one of the socialists programs performs badly, and free-market private alternative consistently do better.

Moreover, liberalism does not demand that "all of us" help others. It only demand OTHER people help others. Liberals donate the least to charity, volunteer the least, and help others the least. Conservatives give nearly double as much to charity, are far more generous their time, and volunteer far more often, as well as are more likely to adopt children than left wingers.

Finding a charitable left-winger is like finding a four leaf clover. They exist, but are so rare as to be a shock when you find one.

As for Flint Michigan, two key facts you failed to grasp.

One, the entire problem was caused by over-spending and fiscal irresponsibility of the left-wing democrats push bad policies in Flint over the prior decade. It never fails that the childish incompetent left-wing constantly dives head first into a train wreck, and then blames Republicans who are forced to clean up your juvenile failures.

Second, you are just flat out wrong. The single largest contribution to disaster relief in Flint, was Walmart, Nestle, Pepsi and Coke, which donated 6.5 Million bottles of water, not including the hundreds of thousands each donated separately before the combined effort.

That's not including millions of bottle donated by other private companies, foundations, charity organizations, and other donations by wealthy individuals.

The Southern Baptist Disaster Relief organization was in Flint Michigan. This religious organization has over 65,000 trained volunteers. 1550 Mobile units with showers, water purification, as well as child care and other things.

That's just one charity. And these backward, Kentucky based religious folks, were in Flint Michigan, before FEMA was.

And quite frankly, with Katrina, Walmart had more resources available to the people of New Orleans 2 weeks before the storm hit, than the government had 3 weeks after the storm was gone. In fact, volunteers, and charity organizations were forced out of New Orleans by the government. People reported showing up with boats, and rescue equipment, and trained personnel, and being told by armed police to leave.

Honestly, by some estimates, both New Orleans and Flint Michigan, would be better off, if the government disband FEMA, and gave the money to the public, or the charity organizations. Both would do a better job helping those in need, better than the government.

How pathetic is it, that left wingers have to have the government force charities out at the point of a gun, in order to claim "see! You need us!". Idiots.

 

[sealybobo]

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

The poor pay taxes? Will you tell your Republican friends?

Are you including Medicare Medicare and social security and public schools?

Yes, us liberals demand all of us help the poor. Not just the people who want to. And we see not enough of us want to help. If they did we wouldn't need government involved.

Capitalism has one flaw. It needs poor people to exploit.

Keep in mind government only steps in when it has to. Let me give you a great example. Republicans poison citizens in flint mi water with lead. Flint needs water. The federal government had to help because you didn't feel like helping.

Or Katrina. The feds had to help because you weren't charitable enough

Socialism has one flaw too. It causes everyone to be poor.

Republicans know the poor pay taxes. You just don't call it that. You call social security and medicare taxes "contributions". If you believe that your crappy social programs are "contributions", then the poor don't pay any federal taxes, and almost half the population pay no tax.

If you realize your socialist programs are a tax, then you realize those programs are the worst poverty created, anti-poor programs to ever exist.

And even then, you also fail to realize just how many of these programs mandate spending at the State level, and local level, both of which tax everyone, including the poor, to pay for them. Obama Care for example, requires states to increase medicaid spending, which in turn requires higher taxes. This includes taxes on gasoline, telephones, property, sales tax, as well as income taxes, at both the state level and local level.

Last year I pulled just $23,000 of taxable income. Of that, I had to pay $3,000, or 13% of my massive income, in taxes, State, Federal, and local.

The vast majority of that money, did not go to military spending. Or the mythical corporate welfare. It went to social programs, of which I got zero benefit.

Every single one of the socialists programs performs badly, and free-market private alternative consistently do better.

Moreover, liberalism does not demand that "all of us" help others. It only demand OTHER people help others. Liberals donate the least to charity, volunteer the least, and help others the least. Conservatives give nearly double as much to charity, are far more generous their time, and volunteer far more often, as well as are more likely to adopt children than left wingers.

Finding a charitable left-winger is like finding a four leaf clover. They exist, but are so rare as to be a shock when you find one.

As for Flint Michigan, two key facts you failed to grasp.

One, the entire problem was caused by over-spending and fiscal irresponsibility of the left-wing democrats push bad policies in Flint over the prior decade. It never fails that the childish incompetent left-wing constantly dives head first into a train wreck, and then blames Republicans who are forced to clean up your juvenile failures.

Second, you are just flat out wrong. The single largest contribution to disaster relief in Flint, was Walmart, Nestle, Pepsi and Coke, which donated 6.5 Million bottles of water, not including the hundreds of thousands each donated separately before the combined effort.

That's not including millions of bottle donated by other private companies, foundations, charity organizations, and other donations by wealthy individuals.

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The Southern Baptist Disaster Relief organization was in Flint Michigan. This religious organization has over 65,000 trained volunteers. 1550 Mobile units with showers, water purification, as well as child care and other things.

That's just one charity. And these backward, Kentucky based religious folks, were in Flint Michigan, before FEMA was.

And quite frankly, with Katrina, Walmart had more resources available to the people of New Orleans 2 weeks before the storm hit, than the government had 3 weeks after the storm was gone. In fact, volunteers, and charity organizations were forced out of New Orleans by the government. People reported showing up with boats, and rescue equipment, and trained personnel, and being told by armed police to leave.

Honestly, by some estimates, both New Orleans and Flint Michigan, would be better off, if the government disband FEMA, and gave the money to the public, or the charity organizations. Both would do a better job helping those in need, better than the government.

How pathetic is it, that left wingers have to have the government force charities out at the point of a gun, in order to claim "see! You need us!". Idiots.

Im a flaming liberal with common sense and I have to tell you that was the best con arguments I've heard in a long time.

 

[Andylusion]

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


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How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

In China there is not really anything like social programs. Poor people are poor and they deal with it or they don't. People are still poor. They don't have welfare programs making them poor, or keeping them poor, they're kept poor by the fact that every society will generally have poor people. The richest countries in the world will have poor people. They might appear to have a lot of money, but then in real terms they probably don't have much at all.

I'm not disagreeing with that welfare can encourage people to stay in poverty. It depends on the program and how it's administered.

Huh? What are you smoking? In 1978 under socialism, 63% of the entire population of China, was under their poverty level. Today it's under 2%. The average wage in China, in just the past 10 years, has increased 3 fold, from 20K yuan, to 60K yuan.

Under Capitalism, the average Chinese worker is enjoying an increasing standard of living, that has not been seen in China, for 100 years.

Moreover, yes every country in the world has poor. The only way you can avoid having poor people, is if you take away their ability to choose to work. You force people to work, then you can force them to stay out of poverty. As long as people have a choice, some will choose to remain poor.

I'm actually a good example of this. I have been offered several jobs where I could easily have earned double what I do now. Yes, I could have a bigger pay check, with a phat bonus, and so on. I didn't want it. I didn't care to earn more money. I never could figure out why I would work so hard, for more money that I can see any need of.

I had one guy tell me I was going to be store manager, and earn $80,000 a year, plus a profit sharing bonus. I hated that job. Last thing I wanted to do was earn a ton of money, while hoping my store would burn down to the ground. I'd much rather earn $20,000 and like what I do. Which is where I am now.

It's not societies fault, or some crap about the evil 1%, or democrats or republicans. I'm not willing to do what is required to earn that much.

 

[Andylusion]

So how many orphans have you given a home to? How is one person going to stop starving babies?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

How many orphans have I given to a homo? Lots. They'd be sitting in orphanages if it weren't for us liberals. You don't want to adopt them so really, how much do you value life once it is born. In fact you don't even want to pay taxes that fund orphanages.

Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

And another thing.....

There almost is no corporate welfare. It's practically a lie.

The only corporate welfare in the federal budget, if you people bothered to fact check your own made up BS, is all the crap you socialists push with your bad left-wing programs.

Green-energy grants, and solar panels, and battery technology. I worked at a company which shut down a project intentionally, because they knew they could get a grant from the government for the project...... to help build a hybrid bus. The corporate welfare stems from you people, not us. You push a bunch of corporate welfare programs, then blame us for it, and start screaming how we're for corporate welfare. Dumb as rocks, ignorant left-tards. Left-wing ideology is mental illness.

Lots of pork on both sides. I like our pork better than yours.

We need a cenntrist solution. The answer is never a right wing position and usually the left wing position is not even really our position. It's exaggerated by the right.

Point is this is a back and forth I'm not interested in having. We will have to agree to disagree.

Why won't a red state show the rest of us how its done. I want to see a libertarian country or state show us it works.

Why is it that everyone else is expected to show you how it's done? The biggest failures in this country have been..... where? Orange County California? Detroit Michigan? Stockton California? San Bernardino County, California? All went bankrupt.

Which one of those is a red state? How about the left wing show us how it's done? Of course given how left-wing ideology has bankrupted nearly every country that's tried it, they are on par for the course.

 

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Two things....

One: If I could cut out all the spending for government funded health care, welfare, food stamps, and Obama Phones, and crap..... we could cut taxes by more than 50%, AND fund all your orphanages, and more. We could likely have all the children stay at the Hilton, and still have money left over.

If you left-wingers would stop blowing money on all your silly socialist crap, we could easily fund the real issues that need funded, and have billions of dollars left over.

Two: Practicing Christians (Christians who go to church more than twice in one week), are twice as likely to adopt a child, that the general public. And are THREE TIMES as likely to be a Foster parent, than the general public.

http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF15A71.pdf

So the facts contradict your left-wing made up BS.

Oh and by the way..... people part of mixed-race families are more likely to be conservative, than left-tard liars.

I've heard welfare to the poor is a drop in the bucket. If your going to make cuts stop cutting things that help the poor. Cut corporate welfare and military spending that isn't needed.

I'd be impressed with Republicans if they weren't always going after the poor.

Why does a middle class athiest care about the poor but a good Christian like you doesn't?

Socialist programs make up the vast majority of all government spending.

Government programs for the poor, generally do more to keep people poor, than anything else in this country.

Moreover, the poor end up paying taxes, to pay for these horrible programs you claim are for the poor, which actually harm them.

Lastly, quite frankly, I wager I have donated more money to the poor, and volunteered more hours to charities for the poor, than any 3 of you people combined. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And by the way.... *I* was adopted myself, and both my parents are conservative.

You people on the left, only demand others help the poor, and other adopt children, and others do things for our fellow man. We actually do it.

The poor pay taxes? Will you tell your Republican friends?

Are you including Medicare Medicare and social security and public schools?

Yes, us liberals demand all of us help the poor. Not just the people who want to. And we see not enough of us want to help. If they did we wouldn't need government involved.

Capitalism has one flaw. It needs poor people to exploit.

Keep in mind government only steps in when it has to. Let me give you a great example. Republicans poison citizens in flint mi water with lead. Flint needs water. The federal government had to help because you didn't feel like helping.

Or Katrina. The feds had to help because you weren't charitable enough

Capitalism might need poor people to exploit, however humans in general need poverty in order to be afraid enough to go out there and do things.

Good point. I'm just against having a country with such great wealth being so cheap.

For example making phones affordable for people living in poverty or food stamps. Republicans worry about the fraud and we worry without these programs innocent kids will go hungry and parents won't have the ability to get a job without a phone.

And Republicans honestly believe our goal or intentions are to pay them for their vote in order to keep them on an imaginary plantation.

You know how much my phone costs me? $16 a month. Further, I have personally gotten a job, without having a phone.

Get off your butt, and walk your wide a$$ into the store, and apply. Go to Walmart, they have free computer terminals in the front of the store, that anyone can sit their double-wide on, and apply for the job.

Obama phones being used by criminals to conduct criminal activity, is a well established fact. It's been documented numerous times.

Whether or not it is your real or imaginary intention does not matter. The results are what count.