When they tell you who they are

[gipper]

The billionaires and those they employ in their businesses pay most of the taxes and provide most of the opportunities.

And they make sure the government does only what they want.

 

[debbiedowner]

YOu have to listen.

trump is giving us clear warning that another coup attempt is coming. Are precautions being taken? IF so, what?

We can't count on the courts this time, the so called supreme court is in his pocket.

Do we have a plan for this? Does anyone know?

Not to go too far off subject but have you ever read about this woman? The magats here will say this is all a lie but she barely survived jonestown.

Congresswoman Jackie Speier, Jonestown Survivor: Trump Has “All the Trappings” of Being the Next Jim Jones

Featured in the new doc, 'Cult Massacre: 24 Hours in Jonestown,' the Democratic politician warns: "I was in the House gallery when January 6 took place. I thought, 'Oh my God, I survived the jungles of Guyana, and I'm going to die in this tabernacle of democracy.'"

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Leo123]

I mean what can be done in practical terms that is fair to both sides?

Go back to paper ballots and require ID for voting for starters. Make vote gathering illegal and rescind changes in voting laws that Democrats put in place.

 

[gipper]

The billionaires and those they employ in their businesses pay most of the taxes and provide most of the opportunities.

Here is a great column that will help you and disavow you of that opinion.

How America’s Billionaires Have Made Their Government Inaccessible to the Public​

By Eric Zuesse
Eric’s Substack
June 21, 2024
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America’s approximately a thousand billionaires donate at least half of all of the money in the U.S. that funds political campaigns in both of their Parties. Moreover, each of the political Parties is unaccountable to its voters because it is a private club, a tax-free ‘non-profit’ or ‘charity’ which appoints its own members, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) or the Republican National Committee (RNC), which consist of representatives of their supporting billionaires’ corporations and their lobbying firms, and who are therefore well qualified for those representatives of the billionaires to select as their Party’s nominees for public office only candidates whose fundraising efforts will be funded by their interests sufficiently to succeed so that the nominated candidate will have an authentic chance to beat the other Party’s nominated candidate in a ‘democratic’ election that’s actually only a s‘election’ from those two billionaire-approved nominees. Each Party’s political primaries and caucuses functions only in order to fool its voters to think that the outcome in the purely-for-show primary contests depends upon their votes instead of on billionaires’ dollars. In order for the billionaires to be able to carry out their end-result — that the public are only to be fooled, not served — they also control enough of the ‘news’-media and accredited ‘experts’ at their think tanks, foundations, universities, and other ’non-profits’ (which ‘experts’ are then approved to be interviewed by their ‘news’-media), for the billionaires to have reasonable confidence that the winner of each political contest will ultimately turn out to represent either their own Party’s group of billionaires, or else the opposite Party’s group of billionaires (and so always be billionaire-friendly), instead of represent the non-billionaire mere voters, who get to select only from billionaire pre-approved nominees. That’s the way the system works.
Among the tricks that the billionaires’ Government has established in order to prevent access to power by individuals who don’t represent the interests and priorities of billionaires, is the arcane system in which they have had their U.S. Presidents and Congress-members create tax-laws which favor ONLY donations being made by a ’non-profit’ to an employee of, or other beneficiary of, a ‘non-profit’, never to any unaffiliated person (i.e., never to an individual who is no beneficiary of a donor who is rich enough to be part of the ‘non-profit’ system and thus to be either among billionaires or else close to that — in other words, the applicant needs to be already financially dependent upon the insiders, in order to be able to qualify for a grant from the given foundation or etc.)

 

[Leo123]

Not to go too far off subject but have you ever read about this woman? The magats here will say this is all a lie but she barely survived jonestown.

Congresswoman Jackie Speier, Jonestown Survivor: Trump Has “All the Trappings” of Being the Next Jim Jones

Featured in the new doc, 'Cult Massacre: 24 Hours in Jonestown,' the Democratic politician warns: "I was in the House gallery when January 6 took place. I thought, 'Oh my God, I survived the jungles of Guyana, and I'm going to die in this tabernacle of democracy.'"

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Woodznutz]

People who have decided that both sides are equally bad are part of the problem.

Anyone who doesn't understand that the job is the boss is part of the problem.

 

[Woodznutz]

Here is a great column that will help you and disavow you of that opinion.

How America’s Billionaires Have Made Their Government Inaccessible to the Public​

By Eric Zuesse
Eric’s Substack
June 21, 2024
donate
FacebookTwitter


America’s approximately a thousand billionaires donate at least half of all of the money in the U.S. that funds political campaigns in both of their Parties. Moreover, each of the political Parties is unaccountable to its voters because it is a private club, a tax-free ‘non-profit’ or ‘charity’ which appoints its own members, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) or the Republican National Committee (RNC), which consist of representatives of their supporting billionaires’ corporations and their lobbying firms, and who are therefore well qualified for those representatives of the billionaires to select as their Party’s nominees for public office only candidates whose fundraising efforts will be funded by their interests sufficiently to succeed so that the nominated candidate will have an authentic chance to beat the other Party’s nominated candidate in a ‘democratic’ election that’s actually only a s‘election’ from those two billionaire-approved nominees. Each Party’s political primaries and caucuses functions only in order to fool its voters to think that the outcome in the purely-for-show primary contests depends upon their votes instead of on billionaires’ dollars. In order for the billionaires to be able to carry out their end-result — that the public are only to be fooled, not served — they also control enough of the ‘news’-media and accredited ‘experts’ at their think tanks, foundations, universities, and other ’non-profits’ (which ‘experts’ are then approved to be interviewed by their ‘news’-media), for the billionaires to have reasonable confidence that the winner of each political contest will ultimately turn out to represent either their own Party’s group of billionaires, or else the opposite Party’s group of billionaires (and so always be billionaire-friendly), instead of represent the non-billionaire mere voters, who get to select only from billionaire pre-approved nominees. That’s the way the system works.
Among the tricks that the billionaires’ Government has established in order to prevent access to power by individuals who don’t represent the interests and priorities of billionaires, is the arcane system in which they have had their U.S. Presidents and Congress-members create tax-laws which favor ONLY donations being made by a ’non-profit’ to an employee of, or other beneficiary of, a ‘non-profit’, never to any unaffiliated person (i.e., never to an individual who is no beneficiary of a donor who is rich enough to be part of the ‘non-profit’ system and thus to be either among billionaires or else close to that — in other words, the applicant needs to be already financially dependent upon the insiders, in order to be able to qualify for a grant from the given foundation or etc.)

Old news.

 

[gipper]

The billionaires and those they employ in their businesses pay most of the taxes and provide most of the opportunities.

And here is an excellent book that will have you banging your head against the wall for ever believing billionaires are good.

https://archive.is/o/WU4ey/https://dissidentvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Zuesse.png

 

[gipper]

Old news.

Except you knew nothing of it.

 

[Woodznutz]

And they make sure the government does only what they want.

The people open those doors for them. If the people don't want to live under a corrupt government-controlled police state, they should stop committing crimes. But because of their nature, they can't. So that's that.

 

[JustAGuy1]

YOu have to listen.

trump is giving us clear warning that another coup attempt is coming. Are precautions being taken? IF so, what?

We can't count on the courts this time, the so called supreme court is in his pocket.

Do we have a plan for this? Does anyone know?

Just shut up you puke. Do you want to know who we are? We are Americans, all we want is you pissants to leave us alone to live our lives. Get off our asses about Trannies, about Taxes, about Climate bullshit. Try and take our guns you puke. Leave our borders closed. You know what the worst is Creepy Toes? You don't have the balls to do ANYTHING yourself. You've been pathetic your entire life that's why you fear us.

 

[Woodznutz]

Except you knew nothing of it.

Most people know this. It's a selection, not an election.

 

[Woodznutz]

And here is an excellent book that will have you banging your head against the wall for ever believing billionaires are good.

https://archive.is/o/WU4ey/https://dissidentvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Zuesse.png

At some point they aren't 'good', but good flows from them regardless. Jeff Bezos saves me a ton of money and time, and that's good.

Here's an actual shopping list from Amazon from the last month (sorry if you can't read my scribbling).

 

[HikerGuy83]

another coup attempt is coming

When was the first attempt ?

 

[d0gbreath]

They don't actually need to speak. The red hats are a clue.

 

[Woodznutz]

And they make sure the government does only what they want.

I like much of what the government does. When they finish resurfacing one of my city's main boulevards it will really be nice. On the flip side they are destroying our state forests by letting too many logging contracts.

 

[IM2]

The people open those doors for them. If the people don't want to live under a corrupt government-controlled police state, they should stop committing crimes. But because of their nature, they can't. So that's that.

The nature of a group of people who want to elect a convict for president is the problem.

Go back to paper ballots and require ID for voting for starters. Make vote gathering illegal and rescind changes in voting laws that Democrats put in place.

Nothing needs to change.

 

[gipper]

At some point they aren't 'good', but good flows from them regardless. Jeff Bezos saves me a ton of money and time, and that's good.

Here's an actual shopping list from Amazon from the last month (sorry if you can't read my scribbling).View attachment 965999

Any American who commends billionaires obviously isn’t informed of the enormous harm they commit to 90% of Americans

 

[Leo123]

They don't actually need to speak. The red hats are a clue.

Yes they are American patriots.

 

[Woodznutz]

The nature of a group of people who want to elect a convict for president is the problem.

Nothing needs to change.

I'd rather elect someone who misfiled a business statement than a mentally deficient pedophile.