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The Arab Palestinians and the Jewish Palestinians (all of them) were citizens of territory defined by international borders. Both peoples have the right to independence and sovereignty. The intent was for Jordan to be the place for Arab sovereignty and Israel to be the place for Jewish sovereignty. Failing that, the next best thing is to divide "Palestine" into two areas -- one for each to have sovereignty. Easy peasy.The Palestinians were citizens of territory defined by international borders. The people have the right to independence and sovereignty.
Indeed, and there has never been a treaty ceding any Palestinian land to Israel.The right to territorial integrity means that a State has the right not to have its borders violated by other States. It does not prohibit the division of a State into two or more parts as outlined in a peace treaty. Witness Yugoslavia. Was Yugoslavia's "territorial integrity" violated when she split into the numerous new States? Of course not.Indeed, there is that pesky right to territorial integrity thing.
You are using legal terms and concepts incorrectly.
Easy except for those people who get the boot for living on the wrong side of the line.The Arab Palestinians and the Jewish Palestinians (all of them) were citizens of territory defined by international borders. Both peoples have the right to independence and sovereignty. The intent was for Jordan to be the place for Arab sovereignty and Israel to be the place for Jewish sovereignty. Failing that, the next best thing is to divide "Palestine" into two areas -- one for each to have sovereignty. Easy peasy.The Palestinians were citizens of territory defined by international borders. The people have the right to independence and sovereignty.
That is the zionist narrative.The Jewish narrative could BE that very same thing. Their land was taken in war and never returned.
I agree here. Israel's Jews control the Mount (with guns that Christians and Muslims cannot carry) known to the entire Arab world as Haram esh-Sharif. Several Muslim structures are obviously there and the western wall is disputed as to what it represents even by respected, mainstream archeological researchers.Examine events on the Temple Mount as evidence. They are representative of the entire conflict.
So any offer to dismantle Palestine is not a peace Settlement?
Who is offering to dismantle Palestine?
That is the zionist narrative.The Jewish narrative could BE that very same thing. Their land was taken in war and never returned.
That is the zionist narrative.The Jewish narrative could BE that very same thing. Their land was taken in war and never returned.
I agree here. Israel's Jews control the Mount (with guns that Christians and Muslims cannot carry) known to the entire Arab world as Haram esh-Sharif. Several Muslim structures are obviously there and the western wall is disputed as to what it represents even by respected, mainstream archeological researchers.Examine events on the Temple Mount as evidence. They are representative of the entire conflict.
Wailing at the wrong wall?
I agree here. Israel's Jews control the Mount (with guns that Christians and Muslims cannot carry) known to the entire Arab world as Haram esh-Sharif. Several Muslim structures are obviously there and the western wall is disputed as to what it represents even by respected, mainstream archeological researchers.
Wailing at the wrong wall?
I believe that the temple mount is not settled history and that the Zionist narrative is only possible through misinterpretation and misrepresentation.Oh please. Tell me you are not one of those people who don't believe that the territory in question is the ancestral, historical and religious homeland of the Jewish people.
Its the most ridiculous, absurd belief.
Indeed, and there has never been a treaty ceding any Palestinian land to Israel.The right to territorial integrity means that a State has the right not to have its borders violated by other States. It does not prohibit the division of a State into two or more parts as outlined in a peace treaty. Witness Yugoslavia. Was Yugoslavia's "territorial integrity" violated when she split into the numerous new States? Of course not.Indeed, there is that pesky right to territorial integrity thing.
You are using legal terms and concepts incorrectly.
C'mon, how much more disingenuous can one be?And trying to discredit Jewish connection to the place is the entire source of the conflict.
I believe that the temple mount is not settled history and that the Zionist narrative is only possible through misinterpretation and misrepresentation.
Have you ever actually read the literature by Josephus and others regarding the size and location of Fortress Antonia?
While maintaining Britain's commitment to the Balfour declaration and its promise of a Jewish National Home in Palestine, "internationally guaranteed" and "recognized to rest upon ancient historic connection," the paper emphasized that the establishment of a Jewish National Home would not impose a Jewish nationality on the Arab inhabitants of Palestine, and "the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian".That is the zionist narrative.The Jewish narrative could BE that very same thing. Their land was taken in war and never returned.
Oh please. Tell me you are not one of those people who don't believe that the territory in question is the ancestral, historical and religious homeland of the Jewish people.
Its the most ridiculous, absurd belief.
Instead of banging your head on the wall, you might want to try reading and then comparing what you have read with the narrative you post on every thread.I believe that the temple mount is not settled history and that the Zionist narrative is only possible through misinterpretation and misrepresentation.
Have you ever actually read the literature by Josephus and others regarding the size and location of Fortress Antonia?
C'mon, how much more disingenuous can one be?And trying to discredit Jewish connection to the place is the entire source of the conflict.
The behavior and actions taken by every Israeli regime since her inception has absolutely nothing to do with it? The fact that more than half of Israeli Jews want the Christians and Muslims ethnically cleansed has nothing to with it? The massive immigration of Europeans has nothing to do with it, nor the hundreds of thousands of the indigenous people who were ethnically cleansed when the Europeans arrived has nothing to do with it?!?
Instead of banging your head on the wall, you might want to try reading and then comparing what you have read with the narrative you post on every thread.I believe that the temple mount is not settled history and that the Zionist narrative is only possible through misinterpretation and misrepresentation.
Have you ever actually read the literature by Josephus and others regarding the size and location of Fortress Antonia?
Your narrative.
