Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Hollie]

One of the deleterious affects of generational welfare fraud. It's made "Southern Syrians" fat and lazy.

Liveleak.com - Gaza has one of the highest obesity rate in the world

 

[Sixties Fan]

On Monday night, IDF troops shot and killed a 19 year old who hurled an explosive device at them from a motorcycle.

Last week, a teenaged girl tried to stab soldiers and was shot and killed.

Both of these teens are being hailed as heroes by the party led by the Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who tells people he is against violence.

Here's a Fatah poster for the 19 year old:



Although Fatah's Facebook page doesn't mention his attack, the poster calls him "the heroic martyr Abdallah Abu Taleb" - and they don't use the word "hero" for people killed unless they were attackers.
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Anyone who claims that Abbas doesn't encourage violence never spends time reading the material put out daily by his own people.


(full article online)

Palestinian attackers hailed as "heroes" by Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Hollie]

I have a suspicion why Mahmoud wanted a "presidential" jet available.

Fuhrer Abbas has been trying to impose a social security tax. Those funds would be managed by the Abbas government.

What coukd possibly go wrong?

My suspicion is that Abbas understands what could happen if the tax money somehow, mysteriously disappears and he needs to make a quick getaway to protect his personal safety from mobs with shovels and pitch forks,

Abbas in New York as general strike brings Palestinian cities to a standstill

Thousands of Palestinians in the West Bank joined a strike on Tuesday against their government's proposed new social security law as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was set to address the United Nations in New York.

The strike, which saw much of Ramallah, Hebron and other Palestinian cities closed, saw thousands of people protest outside the Social Security Corporation in Ramallah, where Abbas's government is based.

Protesters were demonstrating against a proposed new social security law, fearing the fund will be mismanaged. Under the proposed system both private employers and their employees would pay monthly into a government-managed fund, with employees receiving a pension when they retire.

The government says it will provide new security for employees, arguing similar systems exist in countries across the globe.

But protesters say they do not trust the Palestinian government to manage the fund and point out there are no guarantees.




Gee whiz. I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't have total trust in an Islamic terrorist dictator.

 

[Hollie]

Rashida Tlaib's islamic inspired Jew hating proclivities are just an embarrassment.


Rep. Rashida Tlaib says she referred to senators, not Jewish people, in blast about dual loyalties

Rashida Tlaib says ‘They forgot what country they represent’ tweet referred to senators, not Jews

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In this photo, Rashida Tlaib, then a Democratic candidate for Michigan’s 13th Congressional District, speaks at a rally in Dearborn, Mich., Friday, Oct. 26, 2018. Ms. Tlaib went on to win the race and become one of the two first ... more >
Rep. Rashida Tlaib says she referred to senators, not Jewish people, in blast about dual loyalties

Michigan Democrat accuses Republicans of 'inventing controversy'

By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Tuesday, January 8, 2019
After her obscenity-laced tirade at President Trump, Rep. Rashida Tlaib has touched off another uproar, this time over anti-Semitism.

The Michigan Democrat, one of the two first Muslim women to serve in Congress, said Monday that she was referring to U.S. senators, not Jewish people, when she tweeted, “They forgot what country they represent.”

 

[Hollie]

It would be a terrible thing to blame Islamic terrorists for acts of Islamic terrorism.

Don’t Blame Hamas for the Gaza Bloodshed

Israel has a right to defend its borders, but shooting unarmed protesters who haven’t breached its frontier is disproportionate and illegal.

“disproportionate and illegal.”

I would be interested to know how HRW would define the actions of Islamic terrorists if they had managed to breach the Israeli border and started killing Israeli citizens.

Somehow, disproportionate numbers of dead Islamic terrorists is something I can live with.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ et al,

When we describe the circumstances under which ground security forces and border police are challenged by Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) attempting to enter into Israel and how that challenge will be met, we have to remember that certain staged media event workout better for the media and the HoAP is the challenge ends in blood. Otherwise, there is no story for the media, there is no damning response event that can be manipulated such that it makes the HoAP (Jihadists, Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Troublemakers, Adherents, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter) look like they were gunned down the Israelis without provocation.

"Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle.".......................... Khaled Meshal, former Political Director, HAMAS, 2012​

Israel has a right to defend its borders, but shooting unarmed protesters who haven’t breached its frontier is disproportionate and illegal.
SOURCE: Don’t Blame Hamas for the Gaza Bloodshed - Published in Foreign Policy - By Sari Bashi

As we discuss both the Article and the (ongoing) Media Event, it is important that we keep in mind that this is not a Tree Hugger Protects, or the Green Peace saving the whales. This is a tactic employed by the Arab Palestinians that have set a policy that "there is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad" is the order of the day (Article 13 of the Covenant) → and → that under the heading of Jihad (Article 15 of the Covenant) the policy is that " (It is necessary that scientists, educators, and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheiks of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening (the masses)."

It is important to remember, and I think you all understand these concepts, but the need to be emphasized here, because the diplomatic slant placed in the Foreign Policy contribution improperly orients the mindset.

(REFERENCE)

✪ deception — Those measures designed to mislead the enemy by manipulation, distortion, or falsification of evidence to induce the enemy to react in a manner prejudicial to the enemy’s interests.

✪ deception means → Methods, resources, and techniques that can be used to convey information to the deception target. There are three categories of deception means:

◈ physical means. Activities and resources used to convey or deny selected information to a foreign power.

◈ technical means. Military material resources and their associated operating techniques used to convey or deny selected information to a
foreign power.

◈ administrative means. Resources, methods, and techniques to convey or deny oral, pictorial, documentary, or other physical evidence to a foreign power.
​

✪ deception objective → The desired result of a deception operation expressed in terms of what the adversary is to do or not to do at the critical time and/or location

✪ deception story → A scenario that outlines the friendly actions that will be portrayed to cause the deception target to adopt the desired perception.

✪ demonstration → An attack or show of force on a front where a decision is not sought, made with the aim of deceiving the enemy.

✪ physical security → That part of security concerned with physical measures designed to safeguard personnel; to prevent unauthorized access to equipment, installations, material, and documents; and to safeguard them against espionage, sabotage, damage, and theft.

People who don’t trust government, those who think on their own and tend to question what they hear, by now are all becoming experts at identifying false flag staged events. With so many recent staged psyop events in the news lately many of us are getting a lot of practice at this. But have you considered that the script has become more complex than you think?

SOURCE: 13 Important Elements To Look For In Every Staged Shooting Event -- By Bernie Suarez - 5 FEB'19

(COMMENT)

In the case of the "Right to Return March," HAMAS (and associate HoAP) did not have any real expectation of breaching the border. The intent of the March (and anyone who tells you that the March was not organized and encouraged by HAMAS is simply on another planet) was to create a media firestorm that the Israelis could not effectively dampen.

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border or allow penetration of hundreds of HoAP. The event was staged for the media to drum-up sympathy for them as HAMAS used ordinary Gaza citizens for cover and concealment.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Agreed, Rocco. These staged media events; flotillas, border riots, Shirley Temper confrontations with Israeli soldiers, etc., are calculated to draw attention. It’s not a coincidence that Islamic terrorists have multiple camera angles to record the event.

And the more ambitious confrontations are, in my opinion, designed by Hamas and the other Islamic terrorist franchises to offer up a few dead Arabs-Moslems as a way to dramatize the event.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle.".......................... Khaled Meshal, former Political Director, HAMAS, 2012

What do you have against liberation?

 

[P F Tinmore]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

 

[Mindful]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

So you keep saying.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

So you keep saying.

Because it is true. What is that line around Gaza?

 

[Hollie]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

So you keep saying.

Because it is true. What is that line around Gaza?

Is that the International border of the "country of Pally'land" that was created by the Treaty of Lausanne?

 

[P F Tinmore]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

So you keep saying.

Because it is true. What is that line around Gaza?

Is that the International border of the "country of Pally'land" that was created by the Treaty of Lausanne?

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary,

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

 

[Mindful]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

So you keep saying.

Because it is true. What is that line around Gaza?

A dotted line.

 

[Hollie]

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border

Uhhh, there is no border.

So you keep saying.

Because it is true. What is that line around Gaza?

Is that the International border of the "country of Pally'land" that was created by the Treaty of Lausanne?

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary,

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

The Egyptian-Israeli Armistice agreement.

 

[Hollie]

Here's some good news for those who want to support a franchise of Islamic Terrorism Intl. Inc., but were concerned with potential scrutiny from domestic and international agencies which might take a dim view of such activities.

"Gazan Academic and Journalist Hussam Al-Dajany: People Can Now Donate to Hamas Using Bitcoin without Fear of Getting Caught"


Yahya Sinwar needs a private jet of his own so as not to look like a poor mans islamic terrorist when compared to Mahmoud.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinians were leaders in "stochastic terrorism" before the term was invented ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Prophet Samuel's Tomb: Archaeological site paved over with parking lot

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

In broad strokes, I have nothing against "liberation" or "independence as a peoples destiny." However, that is within the parameters that the Arab Palestinians do not represent a clear danger to regional security and a present danger to the State of Israel; that being the limit to a danger to the international community, regional security and the general Arab Population itself.

"Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle.".......................... Khaled Meshal, former Political Director, HAMAS, 2012

What do you have against liberation?

(COMMENT)

Freedom and liberty are the default conditions for most people and societies. This has been the case for millennia. But that is not to say there are exceptions made for society itself → when it is found to be necessary to implement psychiatric institutionalization for those members of society that represent a danger to themselves or a threat to those that they may come in contact within the general population and citizenry.

Similarly, when an individual nation → or the international community → finds itself (Israel) threatened by an entire population, or generations within the population, (in this case the Arab Palestinians) it may be necessary to implement customized and tailored security measures and precautions that prevent the threat from becoming reality and spreading further. And in doing so, those that are in the greater proximity or direct threat must consider the protocols by with the implementation is managed or administered:

◈ The general policy and legal frameworks regulating the extent of the quarentine or sanctions ("the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation");
◈ The responsibility and paternalism in the controlled relationships:

✦ The State of Israel as the primary quartine implementer;
✦ The International Community in the furtherence of International Security;
✦ The Donor Community in the care and human development of the Arab Palestinians​

◈ The various levels of responsibility (Israel, International, Donor) that must constantly evaluate the adaptive behavior to institutionalized care and human development of the threat population (Arab Palestinians).​

Seldom are the psychiatric institutionalization the same from one threat population to another (North Korea does not present the same threat like Iran, or as the Islamic State). Each must be dealt with on an individual level with diplomacy and political-military intervention. Thus the Arab Palestinians being → yet different again → from the other examples → must have customized approach to the issues (no one shoe fits all → although they all wear shoes, and no national personality set is the same).

The Arab Palestinians have not demonstrated, the ability "to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world." The Arab Palestinians have, each and every time it has been invited to join in the development of self-governing institutions, rejected the invitation; just as they have often found ways to make the overture of peace negotiations counterproductive.

∑ There is nothing wrong with the idea of "liberation" given that it does not undermine the independence and sovereignty of the only independent Jewish nation (Israel) in the world, which actually worked to attain its self-governing institutions.

​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

In the case of the "Right to Return March," HAMAS (and associate HoAP) did not have any real expectation of breaching the border. The intent of the March (and anyone who tells you that the March was not organized and encouraged by HAMAS is simply on another planet) was to create a media firestorm that the Israelis could not effectively dampen.

I think it is safe to say that everyone with half a brain already knew that the Israelis were not going to permit a breach of the border or allow penetration of hundreds of HoAP. The event was staged for the media to drum-up sympathy for them as HAMAS used ordinary Gaza citizens for cover and concealment.

Most Respectfully,
R

Just to play devil's advocate here....Knowing this to be obviously true, what should Israeli response be? What is the BEST possible response from Israel?