Why attack Syria ? Money--what else ?

[bianco]

Please, ...no boots on the ground to get slaughtered as in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

 

[dilloduck]

not really sure I understand.

For at least a year things have been developing.

Do you not understand what a false flag attack is? It's where you make a case for war by pinning the atrocity on the other side.

The only thing that has developed is that the FSA is getting it's US backed, terrorist ass kicked and everyone is in a panic, so now some full on retard in Syria decided it would be fun to lob some chem at civilians so the western media could shovel that nonsense down the throats of even fuller on retards back in the states just so that Barry the Puppet, and his puppet masters can get their war plan back on track.

Wrong again, as usual.

The administration has rebuffed calls for a stronger military aid response, opting to push for a political solution and provide humanitarian, logistical and limited weaponry and other hardware.

Syrian activists: Videos show chemical weapons used

A chief problem has been identifying those rebels the United States would happily deal with vs elements said to be militants, including some with ties to al Qaeda.

"Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides," Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey wrote this week to Rep. Eliot Engel of New York.

"It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote their interests and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not," he said in the August 19 letter.

Mistrust between U.S., Syrian rebels hinders military aid - CNN.com

it's really important to remember that truth is one of the first casualties of war.

 

[blackhawk]

Were not going to attack Syria at least not in any major way the sad reality is Assad staying in power is the best of the lousy outcomes we could have in Syria at this point.

I hope you're right but Israel wants to attack Iran so badly.

There is no major support for any major action against Syria not from the right, left, or the middle if we do anything it will be what one military analyst called a feel good strike some cruise missile strikes that make us feel like we did something but has no real impact on the ground.

 

[dilloduck]

Were not going to attack Syria at least not in any major way the sad reality is Assad staying in power is the best of the lousy outcomes we could have in Syria at this point.

I hope you're right but Israel wants to attack Iran so badly.

There is no major support for any major action against Syria not from the right, left, or the middle if we do anything it will be what one military analyst called a feel good strike some cruise missile strikes that make us feel like we did something but has no real impact on the ground.

which isn't worth the price of a missle..

 

[wavingrl]

Do you not understand what a false flag attack is? It's where you make a case for war by pinning the atrocity on the other side.

The only thing that has developed is that the FSA is getting it's US backed, terrorist ass kicked and everyone is in a panic, so now some full on retard in Syria decided it would be fun to lob some chem at civilians so the western media could shovel that nonsense down the throats of even fuller on retards back in the states just so that Barry the Puppet, and his puppet masters can get their war plan back on track.

Wrong again, as usual.

The administration has rebuffed calls for a stronger military aid response, opting to push for a political solution and provide humanitarian, logistical and limited weaponry and other hardware.

Syrian activists: Videos show chemical weapons used

A chief problem has been identifying those rebels the United States would happily deal with vs elements said to be militants, including some with ties to al Qaeda.

"Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides," Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey wrote this week to Rep. Eliot Engel of New York.

"It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote their interests and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not," he said in the August 19 letter.

Mistrust between U.S., Syrian rebels hinders military aid - CNN.com

it's really important to remember that truth is one of the first casualties of war.

<But in his letter, Dempsey warned that even limited military action in Syria could lead to deeper involvement -- a point the military has made previously. The administration has said it has no plans to put "boots on the ground."

A team of U.N. chemical weapons inspectors landed in Syria this week to begin probing chemical weapons allegations, and the U.N. Security Council planned a meeting on Wednesday to address the issue.>

In it up to our eyebrows. jmo.

'those who don't remember/review the past are doomed to repeat it'---things didn't work out that well for his predecessor. and we are practically 'bankrupt' or worse.

 

[dilloduck]

Wrong again, as usual.



Mistrust between U.S., Syrian rebels hinders military aid - CNN.com

it's really important to remember that truth is one of the first casualties of war.

<But in his letter, Dempsey warned that even limited military action in Syria could lead to deeper involvement -- a point the military has made previously. The administration has said it has no plans to put "boots on the ground."

A team of U.N. chemical weapons inspectors landed in Syria this week to begin probing chemical weapons allegations, and the U.N. Security Council planned a meeting on Wednesday to address the issue.>

In it up to our eyebrows. jmo.

'those who don't remember/review the past are doomed to repeat it'---things didn't work out that well for his predecessor. and we are practically 'bankrupt' or worse.

absolutely---and Obama wants us to dig deeper for healthcare ? F that.

 

[Trajan]

Do you not understand what a false flag attack is? It's where you make a case for war by pinning the atrocity on the other side.

The only thing that has developed is that the FSA is getting it's US backed, terrorist ass kicked and everyone is in a panic, so now some full on retard in Syria decided it would be fun to lob some chem at civilians so the western media could shovel that nonsense down the throats of even fuller on retards back in the states just so that Barry the Puppet, and his puppet masters can get their war plan back on track.

Wrong again, as usual.

The administration has rebuffed calls for a stronger military aid response, opting to push for a political solution and provide humanitarian, logistical and limited weaponry and other hardware.

Syrian activists: Videos show chemical weapons used

A chief problem has been identifying those rebels the United States would happily deal with vs elements said to be militants, including some with ties to al Qaeda.

"Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides," Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey wrote this week to Rep. Eliot Engel of New York.

"It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote their interests and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not," he said in the August 19 letter.

Mistrust between U.S., Syrian rebels hinders military aid - CNN.com

it's really important to remember that truth is one of the first casualties of war.

You're a liar!!

 

[Moonglow]

Do you not understand what a false flag attack is? It's where you make a case for war by pinning the atrocity on the other side.

The only thing that has developed is that the FSA is getting it's US backed, terrorist ass kicked and everyone is in a panic, so now some full on retard in Syria decided it would be fun to lob some chem at civilians so the western media could shovel that nonsense down the throats of even fuller on retards back in the states just so that Barry the Puppet, and his puppet masters can get their war plan back on track.

Wrong again, as usual.

The administration has rebuffed calls for a stronger military aid response, opting to push for a political solution and provide humanitarian, logistical and limited weaponry and other hardware.

Syrian activists: Videos show chemical weapons used

A chief problem has been identifying those rebels the United States would happily deal with vs elements said to be militants, including some with ties to al Qaeda.

"Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides," Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey wrote this week to Rep. Eliot Engel of New York.

"It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote their interests and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not," he said in the August 19 letter.

Mistrust between U.S., Syrian rebels hinders military aid - CNN.com

it's really important to remember that truth is one of the first casualties of war.

yours included?

 

[dilloduck]

Wrong again, as usual.



Mistrust between U.S., Syrian rebels hinders military aid - CNN.com

it's really important to remember that truth is one of the first casualties of war.

yours included?

absolutely

 

[georgephillip]

Doubt it. Syria is on the list. Has nothing to do with Assad.

That would be the list Wesley told us about in 2003 when his book was about to hit the stores:

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.'" [147]

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Trajan]

When do you expect Obama to loan some drones to Assad?

"...this is one of the really frustrating things for the United States. It's because, as you point out, they have been carrying out several air and drone strikes. They have killed people like Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born cleric there in Yemen. They killed AQAP's number two.

"And yet what we have seen over the past three-and-a-half years is that AQAP has gone from a group of about 200 to 300 people on Christmas Day 2009 to, according to the U.S. State Department, more than a few thousand fighters today."

Yemen Scholar Says U.S. Drone Strikes May Have Driven al-Qaida Membership | PBS NewsHour | Aug. 6, 2013 | PBS

What's the one factor of production an Empire addicted to war can't afford a shortage of?

What empire are you alluding to George?

The one Polk started, why do you ask?

"American imperialism is the economic, military, and cultural influence of the United States on other countries. The concept of an American Empire was first popularized during the presidency of James K. Polk who led the United States into the Mexican&#8211;American War of 1846, and the eventual annexation of California and other western territories via the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and the Gadsden purchase.[3][4]"

American imperialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Right 1846

the only empire in history that doesn't occupy, dictate and scourge it's victims for resources

 

[dilloduck]

Doubt it. Syria is on the list. Has nothing to do with Assad.

That would be the list Wesley told us about in 2003 when his book was about to hit the stores:

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.'" [147]

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just a lucky guess maybe

 

[Trajan]

Doubt it. Syria is on the list. Has nothing to do with Assad.

That would be the list Wesley told us about in 2003 when his book was about to hit the stores:

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.'" [147]

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and he looks like to the ass he is. He got 2 out of 7 and the 1 when it was obvious we had issues with saddam and the other a decade later....brilliant

 

[dilloduck]

Doubt it. Syria is on the list. Has nothing to do with Assad.

That would be the list Wesley told us about in 2003 when his book was about to hit the stores:

"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.'" [147]

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and he looks like to the ass he is. He got 1 out of 7 and the 1 when it was obvious we had issues with saddam....brilliant

is there a statute of limitation on what he heard ?

 

[blackhawk]

I hope you're right but Israel wants to attack Iran so badly.

There is no major support for any major action against Syria not from the right, left, or the middle if we do anything it will be what one military analyst called a feel good strike some cruise missile strikes that make us feel like we did something but has no real impact on the ground.

which isn't worth the price of a missle..

Probably not but after the red line comment Obama is basically backed into a corner to do something or lose what credibility he has on the world stage.

 

[dilloduck]

There is no major support for any major action against Syria not from the right, left, or the middle if we do anything it will be what one military analyst called a feel good strike some cruise missile strikes that make us feel like we did something but has no real impact on the ground.

which isn't worth the price of a missle..

Probably not but after the red line comment Obama is basically backed into a corner to do something or lose what credibility he has on the world stage.

which in my mind is now at the heart of the matter. Are we going to launch missles to save face because no one is going to buy the "gas" story anymore.

 

[Kondor3]

Sixty-eight years after WWII, the Euros are back on their feet again, in most respects...

And they've been living under the American Umbrella for most of that time, investing in infrastructure for themselves, while we've been beating our plowshares into swords...

It's our turn to take a break, and their turn to pick up the slack...

Syria is in the Euros' back yard...

Let the Euros handle this one, if they want...

Hell, turn the Israelis loose on 'em, for all I care...

Otherwise, with respect to the Syrians...

Fuck 'em... let 'em rot... let 'em slaughter each other from now 'til the end of time.

Not our problem.

Unless the Rooskies and Iranians jump-in with both feet.

 

[blackhawk]

which isn't worth the price of a missle..

Probably not but after the red line comment Obama is basically backed into a corner to do something or lose what credibility he has on the world stage.

which in my mind is now at the heart of the matter. Are we going to launch missles to save face because no one is going to buy the "gas" story anymore.

If the administration can find a way to avoid doing anything they will take it.

 

[dilloduck]

Probably not but after the red line comment Obama is basically backed into a corner to do something or lose what credibility he has on the world stage.

which in my mind is now at the heart of the matter. Are we going to launch missles to save face because no one is going to buy the "gas" story anymore.

If the administration can find a way to avoid doing anything they will take it.

hey---they repositioned ships already---look out Assad !

 

[Katzndogz]

obama stupidly made an idiotic statement about a red line. His bluff got called. Putin already kicked obama's teeth in over Edward Snowden leaving obama looking like a thumb sucker. Meanwhile even democrats are asking about what his red line meant. Rather than do the sane thing and accept that anti Assad terrorists used chemical weapons IF any were really used, obama thinks bombing Syria is the same thing as putting his big boy pants on. He's going to show the world what a tough guy he is by having other people go around doing his killing for him so he will finally look like a credible player.

This is all to salve obama's wounded pride.