Why do democrats hate poor black people and want them permanently on welfare?

[Rustic]

The federal government does not make life better for the individual… Fact

Really?
Safe food and water, small business loans, emergency relief, transportation funding, scientific research, anti poverty programs

They are very Unefficient at it... The private sector would do much better

The private sector is the reason we have so many poor and low income Americans.

Na, The federal government fucks everything up it touches

So if all aid to low income Americans were ended tomorrow, every bit of it, including free education, healthcare, the works,

how long before our poverty problem disappears?

Give me a ballpark figure. lol

The country is past the point of no return, big federal government has destroyed the country…

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

All socialist entitlement programs always make for a weak people... fact

Bullshit. Every first nation in the world has a longer life expectancy that the United States, due in no small part to government-funded, cradle to the grave, health care.

Every first nation in the world has better public school education than the US, in no small part to the idea that to get quality teachers, you need to pay them and pay them well. Otherwise these people will take their skills to private industry where they can make a living wage. They also fund schools for poor children in poor areas with the same amount of money they spend on the children of the rich in higher income neighbourhoods, and provide the same resources, because these nations know that their children are the future.

Americans are more interested in ensuring their children receive a RELIGIOUS, CONSERVATIVE education which reinforces the most regressive, anti-science notions (the Earth is 6000 years old, there is no man-made climate change, and the United States is the greatest nation in the world), none of which are true.

Your country is losing ranking in every measure of live-ability that matters: health care, education, lower working class and middle class income, opportunity, infrastructure. Everything that makes a country great, is slowly being drained from your society, and people are encouraged to hate the poor as a drain on your economy.

It is not the poor who are draining your economy - it is the rich. As more and more wealth is taken by the 1% from the Middle Class, the Middle Class continues to blame social programs instead of the Reagan Tax Cuts which is where the blame squarely belongs. Until Reagan revamped the tax code in the early 1980's, the tax code supported the idea that a high tide lifted all boats, to the idea that if the rich got richer, it would trickle down to the rest of us. It didn't happen in the 1980's and it didn't happen in the 2000's when W did it either.

What it did do was lead to a major stock market crash. Reagan's in 1987, and Bush's in 2008. Notice how long it takes for these cuts to destabilize the stock market. The difference between St. Ronnie's crash and W's is this: Reagan was in power at the beginning of the wealth transfer to the top. The working poor still had some savings and the middle class were encouraged to use credit and thought they were better off, even as their equity took a hit.

By the time W's crash hit, the working class has been sucked dry, and were dependent on "earned income credits" to supplement their incomes, and the middle class had maxxed out their credit cards. Most of the nation's wealth has been transferred to the 1% and no one but those at the top has an appreciable amount of savings left. The economy cannot withstand another Republican stock market crash along the lines of 2008 or 1987.

Wrong again, career politicians have ruined this country it basically started around the time at Woodrow Wilson. This country never had a chance because of the big federal government… fact

And how ironic is that given that our founding fathers were concerned mostly with preventing a big federal government. Liberals have been essentially treasonous to our country's values this is why they spied for Stahelin and gave him the bomb and why they love Bernie Sanders an open communist who honeymooned in the USSR

 

[NYcarbineer]

Really?
Safe food and water, small business loans, emergency relief, transportation funding, scientific research, anti poverty programs

They are very Unefficient at it... The private sector would do much better

The private sector is the reason we have so many poor and low income Americans.

Na, The federal government fucks everything up it touches

So if all aid to low income Americans were ended tomorrow, every bit of it, including free education, healthcare, the works,

how long before our poverty problem disappears?

Give me a ballpark figure. lol

The country is past the point of no return, big federal government has destroyed the country…

Now that's a goddam funny concession that you're full of shit.

 

[Rustic]

Big federal government never did solve the biggest problem of them all… Big federal government

 

[Rustic]

They are very Unefficient at it... The private sector would do much better

The private sector is the reason we have so many poor and low income Americans.

Na, The federal government fucks everything up it touches

So if all aid to low income Americans were ended tomorrow, every bit of it, including free education, healthcare, the works,

how long before our poverty problem disappears?

Give me a ballpark figure. lol

The country is past the point of no return, big federal government has destroyed the country…

Now that's a goddam funny concession that you're full of shit.

Dependence on the federal government is a sad thing…

 

[Rustic]

Big federal government never did solve the biggest problem of them all… Big federal government

The ultimate too big to fail… LOL

 

[Wyatt earp]

What have Republicans ever done to help poor neighborhoods?

Imagine that
If they are so poor, it would seem easy for Republicans to offer something better

Why don't they?

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.

 

[rightwinger]

Imagine that
If they are so poor, it would seem easy for Republicans to offer something better

Why don't they?

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

Republicans control the State Houses....that is where the money is
Why haven't they invested in impoverished communities?

Throwing money at something never solves anything

Many times it does
Taking money away NEVER helps

Someone has to pay for it, socialist entitlement programs are unnecessary...

Socialist programs like free education, healthcare for the poor, old age and disability benefits, roads, safe water and food help the people

One of the reasons we have a society

 

[Wyatt earp]

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

Republicans control the State Houses....that is where the money is
Why haven't they invested in impoverished communities?

Throwing money at something never solves anything

Many times it does
Taking money away NEVER helps

Someone has to pay for it, socialist entitlement programs are unnecessary...

Socialist programs like free education, healthcare for the poor, old age and disability benefits, roads, safe water and food help the people

One of the reasons we have a society

No one reason they vote against their wallets and for democrats

 

[rightwinger]

All socialist entitlement programs always make for a weak people... fact

Bullshit. Every first nation in the world has a longer life expectancy that the United States, due in no small part to government-funded, cradle to the grave, health care.

Every first nation in the world has better public school education than the US, in no small part to the idea that to get quality teachers, you need to pay them and pay them well. Otherwise these people will take their skills to private industry where they can make a living wage. They also fund schools for poor children in poor areas with the same amount of money they spend on the children of the rich in higher income neighbourhoods, and provide the same resources, because these nations know that their children are the future.

Americans are more interested in ensuring their children receive a RELIGIOUS, CONSERVATIVE education which reinforces the most regressive, anti-science notions (the Earth is 6000 years old, there is no man-made climate change, and the United States is the greatest nation in the world), none of which are true.

Your country is losing ranking in every measure of live-ability that matters: health care, education, lower working class and middle class income, opportunity, infrastructure. Everything that makes a country great, is slowly being drained from your society, and people are encouraged to hate the poor as a drain on your economy.

It is not the poor who are draining your economy - it is the rich. As more and more wealth is taken by the 1% from the Middle Class, the Middle Class continues to blame social programs instead of the Reagan Tax Cuts which is where the blame squarely belongs. Until Reagan revamped the tax code in the early 1980's, the tax code supported the idea that a high tide lifted all boats, to the idea that if the rich got richer, it would trickle down to the rest of us. It didn't happen in the 1980's and it didn't happen in the 2000's when W did it either.

What it did do was lead to a major stock market crash. Reagan's in 1987, and Bush's in 2008. Notice how long it takes for these cuts to destabilize the stock market. The difference between St. Ronnie's crash and W's is this: Reagan was in power at the beginning of the wealth transfer to the top. The working poor still had some savings and the middle class were encouraged to use credit and thought they were better off, even as their equity took a hit.

By the time W's crash hit, the working class has been sucked dry, and were dependent on "earned income credits" to supplement their incomes, and the middle class had maxxed out their credit cards. Most of the nation's wealth has been transferred to the 1% and no one but those at the top has an appreciable amount of savings left. The economy cannot withstand another Republican stock market crash along the lines of 2008 or 1987.

Wrong again, career politicians have ruined this country it basically started around the time at Woodrow Wilson. This country never had a chance because of the big federal government… fact

And how ironic is that given that our founding fathers were concerned mostly with preventing a big federal government. Liberals have been essentially treasonous to our country's values this is why they spied for Stahelin and gave him the bomb and why they love Bernie Sanders an open communist who honeymooned in the USSR

The founding fathers wanted a federal government that was the right size for their times

Just like today

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What have Republicans ever done to help poor neighborhoods?

Imagine that
If they are so poor, it would seem easy for Republicans to offer something better

Why don't they?

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

 

[rightwinger]

Imagine that
If they are so poor, it would seem easy for Republicans to offer something better

Why don't they?

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Imagine that
If they are so poor, it would seem easy for Republicans to offer something better

Why don't they?

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

Nope, not nearly as much as Democrats. The current Mayor of our city hired a criminal out of prison to work for his administration. One of the councilmen is a habitual drunk that's been arrested several times, and now this Mayor wants to waste money for his grandson's dirt bike path? Do you even realize what kind of liability at puts the city on the hook for?

Prior to this the county of Cleveland (Cuyahoga) had a major crackdown on scandal, bribery and theft in office. Most of the guilty were Democrats--some now spending years in jail.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Imagine that
If they are so poor, it would seem easy for Republicans to offer something better

Why don't they?

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

It doesn't appear that way locally but then again the democrats held on to the big cities for ages.

.

 

[rightwinger]

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

Nope, not nearly as much as Democrats. The current Mayor of our city hired a criminal out of prison to work for his administration. One of the councilmen is a habitual drunk that's been arrested several times, and now this Mayor wants to waste money for his grandson's dirt bike path? Do you even realize what kind of liability at puts the city on the hook for?

Prior to this the county of Cleveland (Cuyahoga) had a major crackdown on scandal, bribery and theft in office. Most of the guilty were Democrats--some now spending years in jail.

Thus identifying yourself as a blind partisan hack

 

[rightwinger]

when the dems control the city it's impossible for republicans to make any changes. Here in New Orleans our stupid mayor and council are more interested in removing historical statues than in doing anything about crime or poverty. But they do have measures in place to raise taxes----------on the poor who have no way to pay them.

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

It doesn't appear that way locally but then again the democrats held on to the big cities for ages.

.

Rightfully so

People in cities want public services. Good public transportation, good schools, parks, reliable public works

Republicans want low taxes and bare bones services

 

[Wyatt earp]

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

It doesn't appear that way locally but then again the democrats held on to the big cities for ages.

.

Rightfully so

People in cities want public services. Good public transportation, good schools, parks, reliable public works

Republicans want low taxes and bare bones services

You forgot about hiding criminals from the feds.




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[Dragonlady]

No one breaks the cycle of poverty because of government handouts. That's a concept liberals don't get.

yes, before liberals had their way with blacks the black family was as intact as the white family!! Liberals have hollowed out America destroying its families, children, schools, churches, and workers.

The black family has never been in tact like the white family structure. Slavery created a system where blacks had no family structure. They broke up families when fathers, mothers and children were sold off at auctions.

Your white ancestors are at fault for the lack of family structure in the black community.

Even after slavery abolished this culture of broken up families continued. Many blacks did make families but there was still a large number of unwed mothers in the black communities.

And church has nothing to do with. Blacks have a higher church attendance record than whites do and they're still struggling.

Blacks continue to struggle because of the institutionalized racism that had been been place for years. In the last 30 years that system has weakened but it has had lasting effects.

Of course that's very mistaken liberalism has done to blacks what slavery Jim Crowe and out right racism could never do. Before liberal policies destroyed the black family It was in fact as intact as the white family the obvious reason for the disintegration of the black family to the point where 75% of kids are born illegitimately came directly out of naziliberal welfare culture do you understand now?

No, these kids came directly out of Ronald Reagan's War on Drugs and minimum sentencing laws, which saw an entire generation of inner city blacks locked in federal prisons, while white kids smoking pot got a slap on the wrist. The justice system is quite willing to overlook the missteps of young white males, while coming down hard on the similar mistakes of young black males. This, more than any other reason, is why there are so many black and brown men in the US prison system.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I'll be happy to trade you.

We have less than 2/3 of the police enforcement we used to have in Cleveland. Now city Council approved 1.3 million dollars for a dirt bike trail. Why a dirt bike trail? Because the Mayor (Frank Jackson) grandson got busted a few times for riding his dirt bike on the street. Of course the Mayor would look bad telling the cops to look the other way when his grandson speeds down the street on an illegal bike, so the solution is to spend taxpayer money for a bike trail.

I'll bet anybody here this liberal bozo gets reelected because Democrats are stupid. Same goes with the council people that pushed through this idiotic plan.

Wow just wow, how many kids I'm Cleveland have dirt bikes.


But nothing compares to Daily Jr. Closing Meigs field airport in Chicago in the middle of the night because his wife didn't like the noise of airplanes over head.



View attachment 119893

It seems they are all the same, doesn't it? Once Democrats sit comfortably in office, they think they've been anointed king.

Republicans don't?

It doesn't appear that way locally but then again the democrats held on to the big cities for ages.

.

Rightfully so

People in cities want public services. Good public transportation, good schools, parks, reliable public works

Republicans want low taxes and bare bones services

And your wrong Greenville SC used to be a shit hole under democrat control, no one would go downtown, but the republicans took over the city and state and the jobs came in and money.


Now everyone goes downtown.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No one breaks the cycle of poverty because of government handouts. That's a concept liberals don't get.

yes, before liberals had their way with blacks the black family was as intact as the white family!! Liberals have hollowed out America destroying its families, children, schools, churches, and workers.

The black family has never been in tact like the white family structure. Slavery created a system where blacks had no family structure. They broke up families when fathers, mothers and children were sold off at auctions.

Your white ancestors are at fault for the lack of family structure in the black community.

Even after slavery abolished this culture of broken up families continued. Many blacks did make families but there was still a large number of unwed mothers in the black communities.

And church has nothing to do with. Blacks have a higher church attendance record than whites do and they're still struggling.

Blacks continue to struggle because of the institutionalized racism that had been been place for years. In the last 30 years that system has weakened but it has had lasting effects.

Of course that's very mistaken liberalism has done to blacks what slavery Jim Crowe and out right racism could never do. Before liberal policies destroyed the black family It was in fact as intact as the white family the obvious reason for the disintegration of the black family to the point where 75% of kids are born illegitimately came directly out of naziliberal welfare culture do you understand now?

No, these kids came directly out of Ronald Reagan's War on Drugs and minimum sentencing laws, which saw an entire generation of inner city blacks locked in federal prisons, while white kids smoking pot got a slap on the wrist. The justice system is quite willing to overlook the missteps of young white males, while coming down hard on the similar mistakes of young black males. This, more than any other reason, is why there are so many black and brown men in the US prison system.

They didn't overlook it, the white kids had the money for lawyers.



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