Why do gun-enthusiasts OBJECT to registering their weapons?

[miketx]

Liberals are too stupid to exist much longer.

Do you know of anyone who's talking about confiscating cars? No? Me either.

I had one confiscated once....

 

[Divine Wind]

The only reason for registering guns is so that the government know whom to target when they begin the seizure pogrom.

The Democrats have made it clear for years they want to ban most, if not all, guns. Those that do have guns will have so many limits put on them, it would be illegal for them to ever use them.

 

[Divine Wind]

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[2aguy]

Think about it....We register our cars...we register to vote....we used to register for the draft, etc. AND, gun enthusiasts on here simply LOVE to flaunt their knowledge of their guns, calibers, magazines, eta l......
YET, mention to them that they should register their weapons to a centralized data base, and they go ballistic (pardon the expression.)

gun registration is only needed to later confiscate guns. There is no other reason to do it....it is not used to solve crimes, it is not used to prevent crimes...since felons do not have to register illegal guns as per the ruling in Haynes v. United States.....

 

[2aguy]

Ask German's citizens why registering guns was a bad idea....made gun confiscation a lot easier.

they registered their guns in the 1920s..the nazis used those records in the 1930s.......gun grabbers are patient...

 

[2aguy]

(Why) do women oppose their names being recorded in a federal registry every time they have an abortion?

Probably for the same reason why morons like you don't have to register as an "official moron"....

Are you REALLY comparing what a woman chooses to do with her own body, to owning a lethal firearm?
Sure, some fellow right wing nitwits will agree with you, but sane people will readily label you an idiot.

Yeah...of 357,000,000 million guns in private hands, less than 8,124 are used illegally to commit murder.....women who kill their babies are committing murder a million times a year....

 

[2aguy]

well then , look at he current muslims that are fighting another super power and exporting its soldiers thoughout the Western world to cause mayhem murder

Yes, lets look at that "bright" scenario you offer above.....I am positive that ISIS or Al-Qaeda is telling their "soldiers", "Don't worry about securing a weapon in the US....those right wing idiots will ASSURE that you can buy virtually ANY weapon you'll need......LEGALLY.."

only because obama is letting them in....

 

[2aguy]

Think about it....We register our cars...we register to vote....we used to register for the draft, etc. AND, gun enthusiasts on here simply LOVE to flaunt their knowledge of their guns, calibers, magazines, eta l......
YET, mention to them that they should register their weapons to a centralized data base, and they go ballistic (pardon the expression.)

Let me ask the opposite

why do you want to register guns?

Let's assume Mateen had been required to register his assault weapon and pistol after purchase. Would that have discouraged him from killing 50 fucking people and wounding 50 more?

Now as to the answer to your question.

Duh, the government can't confiscate what they don't know about.


Do you know of anyone who's talking about confiscating cars? No? Me either.

Registration would help with the everyday gun violence . It'd hamper straw purchases for one .

As for the paranoid "confiscation " crowd . You are already licensed , there's your list.

Wrong...doesn't do that at all.....Canada tried to register 15 million long guns...and gave up...no crimes solved and a waste of money, time and manpower.....

 

[WinterBorn]

I have never been given a decent answer to what good would be accomplished by requiring all guns be registered.

 

[2aguy]

Think about it....We register our cars...we register to vote....we used to register for the draft, etc. AND, gun enthusiasts on here simply LOVE to flaunt their knowledge of their guns, calibers, magazines, eta l......
YET, mention to them that they should register their weapons to a centralized data base, and they go ballistic (pardon the expression.)

Let me ask the opposite

why do you want to register guns?

Let's assume Mateen had been required to register his assault weapon and pistol after purchase. Would that have discouraged him from killing 50 fucking people and wounding 50 more?

Now as to the answer to your question.

Duh, the government can't confiscate what they don't know about.


Do you know of anyone who's talking about confiscating cars? No? Me either.

Registration would help with the everyday gun violence . It'd hamper straw purchases for one .

As for the paranoid "confiscation " crowd . You are already licensed , there's your list.

the Haynes v. United States Supreme court decision ruled that convicted felons and other criminals do not have to register their illegal guns....because if violates their 5th Amendment right against self incrimination...

so......if that works for actual criminals....registration of guns is an act of possible self incrimination for all citizens and clearly unConstitutional.

 

[2aguy]

I have never been given a decent answer to what good would be accomplished by requiring all guns be registered.

Isn't, "just because..." a good enough answer?

 

[2aguy]

Canada tried to register just 15 million long guns......and it was a disaster......

Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up

15 million guns.....1 billion dollars...and it didn't work....



The law passed and starting in 1998 Canadians were required to have a license to own firearms and register their weapons with the government.

According to Canadian researcher (and gun enthusiast) Gary Mauser, the Canada Firearms Center quickly rose to 600 employees and the cost of the effort climbed past $600 million. In 2002 Canada’s auditor general released a report saying initial cost estimates of $2 million (Canadian) had increased to $1 billion as the government tried to register the estimated 15 million guns owned by Canada’s 34 million residents.

The registry was plagued with complications like duplicate serial numbers and millions of incomplete records, Mauser reports. One person managed to register a soldering gun, demonstrating the lack of precise standards. And overshadowing the effort was the suspicion of misplaced effort: Pistols were used in 66% of gun homicides in 2011, yet they represent about 6% of the guns in Canada. Legal long guns were used in 11% of killings that year, according to Statistics Canada, while illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, which by definition cannot be registered, were used in another 12%.

So the government was spending the bulk of its money — about $17 million of the Firearms Center’s $82 million annual budget — trying to register long guns when the statistics showed they weren’t the problem.

There was also the question of how registering guns was supposed to reduce crime and suicide in the first place. From 1997 to 2005, only 13% of the guns used in homicides were registered. Police studies in Canada estimated that 2-16% of guns used in crimes were stolen from legal owners and thus potentially in the registry. The bulk of the guns, Canadian officials concluded, were unregistered weapons imported illegally from the U.S. by criminal gangs.

Finally in 2011, conservatives led by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper voted to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all its records.

Liberals argued the law had contributed to the decline in gun homicides since it was passed. But Mauser notes that gun homicides have actually been rising in recent years, from 151 in 1999 to 173 in 2009, as violent criminal gangs use guns in their drug turf wars and other disputes.

As in the U.S., most gun homicides in Canada are committed by young males, many of them with criminal records. In the majority of homicides involving young males, the victim and the killer are know each other.

only left wing morons would think this is rational....

 

[nat4900]

only because obama is letting them in....

You mean like the Orlando terrorist???? Obama let him him to Florida from that foreign country known as Queens, New York???

 

[2aguy]

only because obama is letting them in....

You mean like the Orlando terrorist???? Obama let him him to Florida from that foreign country known as Queens, New York???

No....obama has set up rules that keep the FBI from investigating muslim terrorism.....

And why does it make sense to you asswipes to let in 10s of thousands of people who believe the same thing the American muslim did, who are coming from countries where they actually condone the legal killing of homosexuals, who cannot be vetted for actual ties to actual terrorist groups, and who our own government security experts....hired by obama, tell us that actual terrorists are using the immigration process to get into the country...

terrorists trained in group tactics, trained to defeat detection, trained to fight against other armed resistance making them far harder for the police to deal with......

And an American security guard murdered 49 people...and you morons think it makes sense to let in immigrants who believe the same thing this guy did?

You think that is a fucking rational thing to do?

 

[nat4900]

the Haynes v. United States Supreme court decision ruled that convicted felons and other criminals do not have to register their illegal guns....because if violates their 5th Amendment right against self incrimination...

so......if that works for actual criminals....registration of guns is an act of possible self incrimination for all citizens and clearly unConstitutional.

You're interpreting Haynes like a 12 year old would do......and a whole bunch of fellow right wing morons probably agree with you because....well, because it sounds "official".......

The ruling in Haynes basically told congress to RE-WORD the National Firearm Act....since it was poorly worded and allowed Haynes to escape his conviction (ask who funded his "defense")

Once Congress re-worded the Act, registration was again mandatory.

(Its like asking a suspected murderer to show the police where he hid the body...and the murderer says......." I will not since showing you what I did with the body will incriminate me

 

[nat4900]

No....obama has set up rules that keep the FBI from investigating muslim terrorism.....

Openly admit that you pulled the above right out of your ass.......Go on, SPECIFICALLY show where Obama did such a thing....or, simply go play with yourself in some corner of your basement......

 

[2aguy]

No....obama has set up rules that keep the FBI from investigating muslim terrorism.....

Openly admit that you pulled the above right out of your ass.......Go on, SPECIFICALLY show where Obama did such a thing....or, simply go play with yourself in some corner of your basement......

Wrong asshole...I have heard the former head of the FBI and other security experts interviewed all week......

Orlando Attack Is a Failure of Obama’s ‘Politically Correct’ Policy, Analysts Say

Retired Army Lt. Col. Joseph Myers, a former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst and counterterrorism expert, said U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies are operating under rules of engagement that prevent the preemption of terror attacks.

“The fact that as a matter of Obama administration policy they have purged any references to Islam, Islamic doctrines and tenets of war and jihad from the professional terrorism lexicon leaves the FBI, DHS, DoJ, and DoD from being intellectually and physically ready to act and operate to preempt these kinds of events in the homeland,” Myers said.

The purging of Islamic concepts has left American leaders and law enforcement agents confused about terrorists’ motives.

 

[nat4900]

And why does it make sense to you asswipes to let in 10s of thousands of people who believe the same thing the American muslim did, who are coming from countries where they actually condone the legal killing of homosexuals, who cannot be vetted for actual ties to actual terrorist groups, and who our own government security experts....hired by obama, tell us that actual terrorists are using the immigration process to get into the country...

Inane...something that morons like you hear on FOX....There are about 160 countries that do NOT condone homosexuality.....and only a few have actually a Muslim majority in its citizenry...>Russia, for example does NOT condone homosexuality.....should we also ban Russians from coming here?

 

[nat4900]

Wrong asshole...I have heard the former head of the FBI and other security experts interviewed all week......

The Beacon????? The fucking Wash, Beacon??

My parakeet does not even allow that piece of trash to line the bottom of his cage.

 

[2aguy]

And why does it make sense to you asswipes to let in 10s of thousands of people who believe the same thing the American muslim did, who are coming from countries where they actually condone the legal killing of homosexuals, who cannot be vetted for actual ties to actual terrorist groups, and who our own government security experts....hired by obama, tell us that actual terrorists are using the immigration process to get into the country...

Inane...something that morons like you hear on FOX....There are about 160 countries that do NOT condone homosexuality.....and only a few have actually a Muslim majority in its citizenry...>Russia, for example does NOT condone homosexuality.....should we also ban Russians from coming here?

asshole......muslim countries kill gays for being gay......pretend they don't......the blind spot you assholes have for islam is just fucking nuts.....