Yes, I'm a Conservative, But SOME Rent Control IS Necesary

[Toddsterpatriot]

How would the landlord be worse with no need for rent control and Labor having recourse to compensation for simply bieng unemployed in an at-will employment State?

Where is Winterborn, maybe he can help us out with the math until some rocket science chics demand their turn?

Landlords would also be harmed by the economic damage caused by bum checks.

 

[danielpalos]

Landlords would also be harmed by the economic damage caused by bum checks.

In right-wing fantasy, anything is possible. Let's keep it to economics.

Can you explain the process and rationale for the harm you allege is a concern?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In right-wing fantasy, anything is possible. Let's keep it to economics.

Can you explain the process and rationale for the harm you allege is a concern?

Incentivizing bums will produce more bums.
That will reduce GDP, not increase GDP.
Get a job.

 

[danielpalos]

Incentivizing bums will produce more bums.
That will reduce GDP, not increase GDP.
Get a job.

Special pleading is only "gospel" on the right-wing. Why should a landlord care since his tenants have an income to help pay the mortgage?

 

[danielpalos]

Winterborn, what would an ideal compensation for simply being unemployed need to be to keep the People in their homes and off the streets?

Fixing that Standard for a State or republic could be a market recognizable metric for better market organization and potential efficiences.

 

[WinterBorn]

The legal and physical infrastructure is already available and merely needs to be upgraded.

Social means testing for general welfare benefits is more expensive and unnecessary to solve simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Means testing is not the reason for the difference in 0.8 and 2.0 multipliers.

And if you think the tax payers will shell out $2.5 billion without some sort of means testing, you are a bigger fool than I thought.

As for the existing infrastructure merely needing upgrading, that is pure bullshit. Unemployment compensation has never had to deal with the vast numbers your program would bring. And unemployment compensation has always been temporary.

But let's look at it for each program, shall we?

Welfare: Funded by the tax payers
Current Unemployment Compensation: Funded by the employer
Your fantasy UC: Funded by the tax payers

Welfare: Anyone is eligible
Current Unemployment Compensation: Eligibility limited
Your fantasy UC: Anyone is eligible

Welfare: No requirement to be seeking work
Current Unemployment Compensation: Must be seeking employment
Your fantasy UC: No requirement to be seeking work

Welfare: No limitations on how long you can draw
Current Unemployment Compensation: Strict limits, usually 26 weeks, on how long you can draw
Your fantasy UC: No limitations on how long you can draw


And yet, you claim the multiplier will be the same as with the current Unemployment Compensation? hahahahaha

 

[WinterBorn]

How would the landlord be worse with no need for rent control and Labor having recourse to compensation for simply bieng unemployed in an at-will employment State?

Where is Winterborn, maybe he can help us out with the math until some rocket science chics demand their turn?

You claim it is so Labor would have recourse to compensation for simply being unemployed. Compensation? For what? You want millions of people to draw a check, paid for by the tax payers, for doing absolutely nothing? That is nonsense.

 

[WinterBorn]

Special pleading is only "gospel" on the right-wing. Why should a landlord care since his tenants have an income to help pay the mortgage?

The landlord will care because his taxes go up to pay the $2.5 billion that is paid out for nothing.

 

[WinterBorn]

Winterborn, what would an ideal compensation for simply being unemployed need to be to keep the People in their homes and off the streets?

Fixing that Standard for a State or republic could be a market recognizable metric for better market organization and potential efficiences.

What does welfare pay? That is what it takes to survive. But you have demanded the equivalent of $15 an hour for a 40 hour week.

 

[WinterBorn]

How would the landlord be worse with no need for rent control and Labor having recourse to compensation for simply bieng unemployed in an at-will employment State?

Where is Winterborn, maybe he can help us out with the math until some rocket science chics demand their turn?

If we have to wait until some hot rocket science chick demands her turn with you, we will be waiting forever.

 

[WinterBorn]

DanielPalos, while you are waiting for some rocket science chick to demand her turn (and let's face it, that could take decades), why don't you tell us why you deserve to be supported by the tax payer when you are capable of getting a job and supporting yourself?

 

[danielpalos]

Means testing is not the reason for the difference in 0.8 and 2.0 multipliers.

Yes, it is the primary reason. Anyone who understands anything about economics understands the concept. Only right-wingers prefer to gainsay it with nothing but appeals to ignorance. How disingenuous.

How would landlords be worse off? How would our housing market not have better market based metrics with that form of full employment of capital resources?

 

[danielpalos]

Means testing is not the reason for the difference in 0.8 and 2.0 multipliers.

And if you think the tax payers will shell out $2.5 billion without some sort of means testing, you are a bigger fool than I thought.

As for the existing infrastructure merely needing upgrading, that is pure bullshit. Unemployment compensation has never had to deal with the vast numbers your program would bring. And unemployment compensation has always been temporary.

But let's look at it for each program, shall we?

Welfare: Funded by the tax payers
Current Unemployment Compensation: Funded by the employer
Your fantasy UC: Funded by the tax payers

Welfare: Anyone is eligible
Current Unemployment Compensation: Eligibility limited
Your fantasy UC: Anyone is eligible

Welfare: No requirement to be seeking work
Current Unemployment Compensation: Must be seeking employment
Your fantasy UC: No requirement to be seeking work

Welfare: No limitations on how long you can draw
Current Unemployment Compensation: Strict limits, usually 26 weeks, on how long you can draw
Your fantasy UC: No limitations on how long you can draw


And yet, you claim the multiplier will be the same as with the current Unemployment Compensation? hahahahaha

Means testing and this still happens:

Total welfare improper payments and fraud of $129 billion is an enormous sum; greater than the entire budgets of TANF, Child Nutrition, Head Start, Job Training, WIC, Child Care, LIHEAP and the Lifeline programs, combined.

 

[danielpalos]

You claim it is so Labor would have recourse to compensation for simply being unemployed. Compensation? For what? You want millions of people to draw a check, paid for by the tax payers, for doing absolutely nothing? That is nonsense.

Any landlord is welcome to help out with this dilemma.

 

[danielpalos]

The landlord will care because his taxes go up to pay the $2.5 billion that is paid out for nothing.

Where is relative ethics when we can use his understanding of the issue?

Why should a landlord care on a for-profit basis?

 

[danielpalos]

What does welfare pay? That is what it takes to survive. But you have demanded the equivalent of $15 an hour for a 40 hour week.

What if we assume the equivalent to fifteen an hour as compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?

 

[danielpalos]

If we have to wait until some hot rocket science chick demands her turn with you, we will be waiting forever.

We should try to hurry them up. I goad thee, i goad thee, i goad thee. There, that should do it if "real women are involved". xoxo

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes, it is the primary reason. Anyone who understands anything about economics understands the concept. Only right-wingers prefer to gainsay it with nothing but appeals to ignorance. How disingenuous.

How would landlords be worse off? How would our housing market not have better market based metrics with that form of full employment of capital resources?

Horseshit. Means testing, as done by the welfare office is largely done by the person applying.

 

[WinterBorn]

What if we assume the equivalent to fifteen an hour as compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?

So it will be compensation for being unwilling to get a job? lol

 

[danielpalos]

Horseshit. Means testing, as done by the welfare office is largely done by the person applying.

Thanks for playing.

How much does rent control cost?

Ensuring full employment of capital resources means the capitalists can rely on capital management principles.