Young White Americans are fleeing Democrat Party in droves since Trump's election

Without immigrants Democrats are a dead party in the not too distant future.
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
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And accept that America will go to shit?

Absolutely not. If enough awareness is risen and the media that wants the country to self-destruct stopped, there is no reason why we can't get this country back to sustainable demographics.

It really is easier than pie seeing as, people have been completely brainwashed to their views anyway. Expose the facts and they will change thought. Now get to work... and walk away.
 
from the link

These subjects are regular Kremlin talking points. However, the failure of these issues to successfully remain on the dashboard indicates that pro-Kremlin accounts struggled to mobilize susceptible users into propagating their content in light of a busy U.S. news week.

I think the Kremlin with its far right and alt right allies will pick up their efforts as the election season grows hotter.
 
Without immigrants Democrats are a dead party in the not too distant future.
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.

And accept that America will go to shit?

Absolutely not. If enough awareness is risen and the media that wants the country to self-destruct stopped, there is no reason why we can't get this country back to sustainable demographics.

It really is easier than pie seeing as, people have been completely brainwashed to their views anyway. Expose the facts and they will change thought. Now get to work... and walk away.
What would "getting the country back to sustainable demographics" look like, and how would it be accomplished?
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Without immigrants Democrats are a dead party in the not too distant future.
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
 
Without immigrants Democrats are a dead party in the not too distant future.
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
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Without immigrants Democrats are a dead party in the not too distant future.
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
 
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
.
 
Without immigrants Democrats are a dead party in the not too distant future.
holy crap

True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)

Not really. Illegal immigration is a problem of course, but hardly demographic changing. The real reason to battle illegal immigration is because it changes the rhetoric of the whole conversation.

The actual problem is that we have voted in all this welfare for women, which stifles their birth rate as they no longer need men. Even worse, this turns out to mean that only the dumb people are procreating (see the film "idiocracy" to learn the problem with this).

To pay for all the free shit we need to bring in immigrants, which are economic plus for the few short years they work at least. It's no different to taking debt and destroying the country's capital. The IQs of these immigrants are at high at high 80s at best, and even one point in IQ is invaluable. They are a huge liability long term as their voting tendencies demonstrate. These tendencies are why the democrat party can afford to go all insane.

It's a race to bottom that needs to be stopped at all cost if we want to have anything resembling a civilization in the future.
 
True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
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That's a fair characterization.

Do you have a problem with that? If not, do you have a problem with the fact that currently the overwhelming majority are coming from Mexico? And I can assure you, these are not "the best" we could find.
 
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
.

That's a fair characterization.

Do you have a problem with that? If not, do you have a problem with the fact that currently the overwhelming majority are coming from Mexico? And I can assure you, these are not "the best" we could find.
No, thanks, I'm at least glad to see it laid out like that.
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True statement, even today they would be a dead party without the immigrant vote.

Of course, this assumes that their policies and visions wouldn't change. That is unrealistic, but actually the whole point. Without all these immigrants this party would have to act sane, and as we increase the number of 3rd world immigrants they and America in general will become progressively insane.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that you are mixed race and appear sane. Don't confuse your personal experiences with the general trends.
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
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LOL, no. Are you for diversity? Yes or no!

Therefore, by the LEFTS OWN counting, everything being equal, if people are allowed in, it would become one for one, now wouldn't it. What that means is, the change in demographics would slow, and give current immigrants time to become assimilated. And again, if assimilated, they usually don't become progressives, and in fact change just like home grown Americans sometime in their 30s.

Translation---------> Democratic party would be forced to moderate, as virtually all people coming over from Europe want nothing to do with socialism. Even those in Norway know, that they are a "big nanny state," and NOT Democratic Socialist. Democratic Socialism, is a fabricated term created by the Left in this country to make it more palatable.

By the way, haven't yet heard the outcome in Germany of Merkel. Has anyone? Or hasn't it been determined yet?

You see, no matter what happens there, it is going in OUR direction, even if she holds power. The whole world is coming to the conclusion, that Far Left idiocy does NOT work! And we still have around 4 months to drive that message home, along with showing what measures other countries are taking, because OPEN BORDERS do NOT work!
 
You're not going to stop immigration, so it might be a better idea to concentrate on an electorate that is changing. But, I know, the GOP has clearly decided to ignore our changing demographics.

That's fine, but the notion that the Democratic Party is going away is pure talk radio fantasy. We'll see how long the GOP can play only to its base, because that's all it cares about.
.


He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
.


LOL, no. Are you for diversity? Yes or no!

Therefore, by the LEFTS OWN counting, everything being equal, if people are allowed in, it would become one for one, now wouldn't it. What that means is, the change in demographics would slow, and give current immigrants time to become assimilated. And again, if assimilated, they usually don't become progressives, and in fact change just like home grown Americans sometime in their 30s.

Translation---------> Democratic party would be forced to moderate, as virtually all people coming over from Europe want nothing to do with socialism. Even those in Norway know, that they are a "big nanny state," and NOT Democratic Socialist. Democratic Socialism, is a fabricated term created by the Left in this country to make it more palatable.

By the way, haven't yet heard the outcome in Germany of Merkel. Has anyone? Or hasn't it been determined yet?

You see, no matter what happens there, it is going in OUR direction, even if she holds power. The whole world is coming to the conclusion, that Far Left idiocy does NOT work! And we still have around 4 months to drive that message home, along with showing what measures other countries are taking, because OPEN BORDERS do NOT work!
Well, Norman agreed with my characterization.

So I'd be interested to see a conversation on this between the two of you.
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The actual problem is that we have voted in all this welfare for women, which stifles their birth rate as they no longer need men. Even worse, this turns out to mean that only the dumb people are procreating (see the film "idiocracy" to learn the problem with this).

WHOA! ....

Did you just cite the movie Idiocracy as a reference to support your argument regarding the effects of the welfare state? it's a hilarious movie and all but it's not a documentary.:D

"Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution." -- President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, Idiocracy
 
The thread title is NO surprise.

*****

As the Caucasian population continues its unprecedented slide, more and more young Caucasians (who keep their mouths shut at school and at work and in society in general) will feel more and more uncomfortable with the developments of the "new" United States.

They will stop voting for the Democratic Party (which will be dominated by the new majority) or stop voting altogether (the Republican Party may even cease to exist), or they may even emigrate to another country (maybe Russia?).
 
He misstated Mac I think. What he might have wanted to say was, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! If illegal immigration was prevented, then the Democratic party would have to change or disappear.

Why?

Because by rights, those allowed in on merit, or because they filled positions that we needed, would NOT then come from places where living on American welfare is better than being wealthy in their country of origin.

Also, more Europeans would then be mixed in, causing the demographics to stop shifting, which means absolutely NOTHING. You see, it makes little difference where you are from once assimilated to the American culture. Usually, the more success, and older you get, the more your resist progressivism; and if you actually wanted some sort of Socialism, you wouldn't have come to America in the 1st place, now would you-)
Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
.

Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
.


LOL, no. Are you for diversity? Yes or no!

Therefore, by the LEFTS OWN counting, everything being equal, if people are allowed in, it would become one for one, now wouldn't it. What that means is, the change in demographics would slow, and give current immigrants time to become assimilated. And again, if assimilated, they usually don't become progressives, and in fact change just like home grown Americans sometime in their 30s.

Translation---------> Democratic party would be forced to moderate, as virtually all people coming over from Europe want nothing to do with socialism. Even those in Norway know, that they are a "big nanny state," and NOT Democratic Socialist. Democratic Socialism, is a fabricated term created by the Left in this country to make it more palatable.

By the way, haven't yet heard the outcome in Germany of Merkel. Has anyone? Or hasn't it been determined yet?

You see, no matter what happens there, it is going in OUR direction, even if she holds power. The whole world is coming to the conclusion, that Far Left idiocy does NOT work! And we still have around 4 months to drive that message home, along with showing what measures other countries are taking, because OPEN BORDERS do NOT work!
Well, Norman agreed with my characterization.

So I'd be interested to see a conversation on this between the two of you.
.

LOL, no need. A person who doesn't want someone moving into their neighborhood because they committed a sex crime, likes the idea that someone else doesn't want them moving in because if they stop them, they can buy the property at a cut rate themselves. Like minded goals create strange bedfellows.

It is really easy to lambast ideas as long as you use the most odious ideas for them being implemented, which is exactly what the Left does. The Left ALWAYS try's to frame the debate in that way, but this time, (and hopefully from here forward) Conservatives aren't allowing that to happen.

This isn't about people being brown, or black, or blue, or pink, it is about being illegal! Did you see the clown from Norway who started the massive fire in Colorado? I believe he was illegal also. So by your logic, we should be in support of him, lolol......NOT!

Forget the color of ones skin, it is all about ILLEGAL, that is the bottom line. We as citizens have the RIGHT to demand our borders be secured as long as it is the law of the land. You don't like the law of the land? THEN CHANGE IT! Put a bill in right now. Force EVERY DEMOCRAT in congress to put in for a bill on Thursday with 5 words in it---------------> We shall have open borders! Lets see how that works out for your side-)

And quit trying to convince the rest of us to feel badly about ENFORCING THE LAWS OF THE LAND! Especially when your side still hasn't put up ANYTHING to change the laws, nor will they because we both know what would happen. In essence, they are hypocrites, and anyone in congress who takes their position of insisting that this is bad, but refuses to put forth a bill to change the law because of their re-election chances, are nothing more than phony-e-baloneys!

You people have no case until YOUR SIDE puts their ass on the line politically, instead of demanding every one else do their political job for them!
 
What would "getting the country back to sustainable demographics" look like, and how would it be accomplished?
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Boy, that's one heavy lift right there. But thanks, this is the first time I've seen a strategy.
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Won't be if your side doesn't get the House in the midterms-) The only reason we are standing still is-----------> collusion/delusion, and the ability of the Democrats to gaslight everyone on how letting illegals in is really what America wants.

If the Democrats get spanked on election day, within a week of proving that America was gaslighted, the whole border situation policy is going to be ramped up, and Herr Mueheller will either be forced to do something, or be fired...….and Trump will have 2 years to smooth that over before 2020.

Doubt me-)

Nope, you don't, because if anything, you know Trump, and how much political capital he will have if he carries the midterms, along with how much the Democrats credibility will be in the trash can!
Okay, so let me know if I'm seeing this correctly: The plan is to revise/fix the immigration system so that more white (Norman used the term "European") people would be let in, and fewer black and brown people would be let in. This would keep the overall ideological mix more to the GOP's liking.

Is that a fair characterization?
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LOL, no. Are you for diversity? Yes or no!

Therefore, by the LEFTS OWN counting, everything being equal, if people are allowed in, it would become one for one, now wouldn't it. What that means is, the change in demographics would slow, and give current immigrants time to become assimilated. And again, if assimilated, they usually don't become progressives, and in fact change just like home grown Americans sometime in their 30s.

Translation---------> Democratic party would be forced to moderate, as virtually all people coming over from Europe want nothing to do with socialism. Even those in Norway know, that they are a "big nanny state," and NOT Democratic Socialist. Democratic Socialism, is a fabricated term created by the Left in this country to make it more palatable.

By the way, haven't yet heard the outcome in Germany of Merkel. Has anyone? Or hasn't it been determined yet?

You see, no matter what happens there, it is going in OUR direction, even if she holds power. The whole world is coming to the conclusion, that Far Left idiocy does NOT work! And we still have around 4 months to drive that message home, along with showing what measures other countries are taking, because OPEN BORDERS do NOT work!
Well, Norman agreed with my characterization.

So I'd be interested to see a conversation on this between the two of you.
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LOL, no need. A person who doesn't want someone moving into their neighborhood because they committed a sex crime, likes the idea that someone else doesn't want them moving in because if they stop them, they can buy the property at a cut rate themselves. Like minded goals create strange bedfellows.

It is really easy to lambast ideas as long as you use the most odious ideas for them being implemented, which is exactly what the Left does. The Left ALWAYS try's to frame the debate in that way, but this time, (and hopefully from here forward) Conservatives aren't allowing that to happen.

This isn't about people being brown, or black, or blue, or pink, it is about being illegal! Did you see the clown from Norway who started the massive fire in Colorado? I believe he was illegal also. So by your logic, we should be in support of him, lolol......NOT!

Forget the color of ones skin, it is all about ILLEGAL, that is the bottom line. We as citizens have the RIGHT to demand our borders be secured as long as it is the law of the land. You don't like the law of the land? THEN CHANGE IT! Put a bill in right now. Force EVERY DEMOCRAT in congress to put in for a bill on Thursday with 5 words in it---------------> We shall have open borders! Lets see how that works out for your side-)

And quit trying to convince the rest of us to feel badly about ENFORCING THE LAWS OF THE LAND! Especially when your side still hasn't put up ANYTHING to change the laws, nor will they because we both know what would happen. In essence, they are hypocrites, and anyone in congress who takes their position of insisting that this is bad, but refuses to put forth a bill to change the law because of their re-election chances, are nothing more than phony-e-baloneys!

You people have no case until YOUR SIDE puts their ass on the line politically, instead of demanding every one else do their political job for them!
Well, I can certainly see now why you folks are not trying to change minds to your ideology, particularly minorities.
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The actual problem is that we have voted in all this welfare for women, which stifles their birth rate as they no longer need men. Even worse, this turns out to mean that only the dumb people are procreating (see the film "idiocracy" to learn the problem with this).

WHOA! ....

Did you just cite the movie Idiocracy as a reference to support your argument regarding the effects of the welfare state? it's a hilarious movie and all but it's not a documentary.:D

"Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution." -- President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, Idiocracy

It's not a documentary indeed.

And let's make sure it doesn't become one. If the direction we are going to continues, it will be one. We already have lost more IQ points than was gained in thousands and thousands of years of evolution.

 
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