Abortion is murder.

[progressive hunter]

No. Let me show you where you are misinformed. Murder is the unlawful killing of another. But abortion isn't unlawful. Especially when enshrined as a law. Abortion can only be a lawful killing. Therefore, not murder. Homicide is the killing of a human being by another. It can be lawful, unlawful, negligent or even justifiable. Abortion by any technical understanding is not murder.

thats BS legal semantics to justify murdering a child,,

legal/law is just for punishment,, murder is murder,, making it legal doesnt change that,,

 

[Foxfyre]

I just negotiated,,,

so far you havent said a word what you think,,
just that I am wrong or wont negotiate,,

You didn't negotiate. You effectively said the debate was over and it was time to take a stand.

I am not at all saying you are wrong in your position. All I am saying is that if the law must be your position and nothing else, you won't win the debate.

 

[alang1216]

Abortion is murder. The mass genocide of the unborn. It is not birth control. Just plain murder of the unborn.!!? your thoughts.?

Abortion may involve killing but not all killing is murder. Abortion is not murder.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

thats BS legal semantics to justify murdering a child,,

legal/law is just for punishment,, murder is murder,, making it legal doesnt change that,,

Yes it does. In those states that have legalized abortion and enshrined it into law there can be no criminal charge of murder. Nor any criminal charge at all for a perfectly legal action.

What you mean is that morally abortion is murder. In your opinion. You just will not see any punishment under your moral code. Whether you have a personal opinion of abortion being murder or not is of no consequence since it has no application in reality. You just need to understand why you are wrong.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Not even that but they are voting on a less than 1% chance that they may need an abortion

.

Right?

Does it get more ridiculous?

.

 

[progressive hunter]

You didn't negotiate. You effectively said the debate was over and it was time to take a stand.

I am not at all saying you are wrong in your position. All I am saying is that if the law must be your position and nothing else, you won't win the debate.

when did I say the law was my position??

I was specific about it being a human life and the protections a society should place on that life,,


since you have no position of your own I guess this is a waste of time,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Yes it does. In those states that have legalized abortion and enshrined it into law there can be no criminal charge of murder. Nor any criminal charge at all for a perfectly legal action.

What you mean is that morally abortion is murder. In your opinion. You just will not see any punishment under your moral code. Whether you have a personal opinion of abortion being murder or not is of no consequence since it has no application in reality. You just need to understand why you are wrong.

murder was around long before any laws were made against it,,

making it legal changes nothing,,

murder is murder,, law be damned

 

[EvilCat Breath]

murder was around long before any laws were made against it,,

making it legal changes nothing,,

murder is murder,, law be damned

Except that no one will ever be prosecuted.

 

[progressive hunter]

Except that no one will ever be prosecuted.

and there is the problem,,

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Murder is a legal term that has specific meanings.
Abortion does not meet those.

It is also an ethical/moral term, referring to any deliberate, unjustifiable taking of an innocent human life. Abortion absolutely meets that definition. There is no rational or honest basis on which to deny this.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I could care less if the young woman across the street got a abortion as it in no way alters the course of my life.

By that argument, I should care less if someone kills you, for your death would in no way alter the course of my life.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

That is far too general a statement. Abortion at 8 or 9 months is clearly murder. Abortion at one week is clearly not murder. If the GOP sticks with "Abortion is Murder", that is a sure loser in 2024.

It is murder, at any age.

A human being at 8 or 9 months past conception is no more or less a human being than he was at conception, no more or less than at several years past birth, no more or less than at several decades past birth.

Abortion, at any age, is murder.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Abortion is homicide because it isn't anything else. If they are honest, those who support abortion should just say even though it's killing a human being they are okay with that. That is an honest answer.

You're asking those who support or even commit cold-blooded murder, to be honest.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

…all cellular life has a haploid phase, everything, including mammals ... haploid mammals cannot survive outside the parent diploid individual, but that haploid seed carries all the genetic information ... one complete set of DNA ...

Not true.

In some insects, such as bees, the male is haploid. Some insects, such as aphids, have some very complex life cycles, that involve haploid and diploid individuals.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

There are legit reasons that a female should seek an abortion. One such reason, Rape. A woman, regardless of age, should not have to carry the child of a man that has raped her.

So, the remedy is to put an innocent child to death, for a crime that he had no willing part in committing?

If you want to argue that the rapist should be put to death, then I'm on your side, but never for putting an innocent child to death.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

If a man raped my daughter I would not ask of her to carry the baby.
What is a man raped my wife, I wouldn't want her to carry the baby either.

What kind of piece of shit would want his grandchild or his stepchild to be murdered in cold blood?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You're asking those who support or even commit cold-blooded murder, to be honest.

Since abortion is lawful, it cannot be murder. Most today do not pay attention to morality.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What kind of piece of shit would want his grandchild or his stepchild to be murdered in cold blood?

Can you have a murder without a murderer?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I just wish all the proponents on all sides of this debate could agree on that.

I'm never going to agree that it is OK to kill an innocent human being, short of some extreme and drastic circumstances far beyond those under which you want it to be OK to murder an innocent human being. I'm never going to agree that any civilized society should tolerate such murderous evil.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Every abortion results in the death of an innocent human being. That is its intent, and that is its effect.

How is that “NOT DANGEROUS”? Something that results in the unjustifiable death of a human being is the very definition of dangerous.