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I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.......
......In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
Voting is a right, not an obligation. Not helping the armed guard stop a robber does not mean I'm helping the robber.The world I live in is only as complicated as I make it. While politicians may set the rules my world is contained in, I have the ultimate choice on how difficult or easy my life is within that world. As most of you know my personal troubles from my past you'll have to imagine me laughing at anyone who thinks life is rough for them because of politics.The things that I believe in are far more important than a Trump victory. I will not compromise my values so other voters are happy.
And how do your values compare with Hillary's? The world isn't as simple as you wish it was.
You have made your choice, we are just trying to understand your choice. You say you won't compromise your values, but you would be doing exactly that by sitting out and helping Hillary.Your welcome...........more to come.No problem.............because she is one.................of course the WAR ON WOMEN............as her hubby fucked everything in sight........
There........more ammo for you.............
Perfect!!!
Yes, because the line of constant attack has been so effective against the Clintons for the past 25 years.
In the past 25 years….
She:
- Most admired woman globally
- Grammy Award Winner
- Best Selling Author
- Won Senator From NY
- Won Senator From NY again
- Came in #2 for President in 2008 (ask the GOP “deep bench” how easy that is to do)
- Appointed Secretary of State 94-2
- Presumptive Nominee of the DNC for 2016 for President
You guys calling her a “bitch”:
- Are still calling her names
Keep up your winning strategy.
We are still waiting for a list of actual career accomplishments in those positions but its been crickets. I'll get you started, she's been caught in numerous lies and people got killed under her leadership.
Well, if you hold your breath, maybe it will happen. LOL.
Voting is a right, not an obligation. Not helping the armed guard stop a robber does not mean I'm helping the robber.The world I live in is only as complicated as I make it. While politicians may set the rules my world is contained in, I have the ultimate choice on how difficult or easy my life is within that world. As most of you know my personal troubles from my past you'll have to imagine me laughing at anyone who thinks life is rough for them because of politics.And how do your values compare with Hillary's? The world isn't as simple as you wish it was.
You have made your choice, we are just trying to understand your choice. You say you won't compromise your values, but you would be doing exactly that by sitting out and helping Hillary.Your welcome...........more to come.Perfect!!!
Yes, because the line of constant attack has been so effective against the Clintons for the past 25 years.
In the past 25 years….
She:
- Most admired woman globally
- Grammy Award Winner
- Best Selling Author
- Won Senator From NY
- Won Senator From NY again
- Came in #2 for President in 2008 (ask the GOP “deep bench” how easy that is to do)
- Appointed Secretary of State 94-2
- Presumptive Nominee of the DNC for 2016 for President
You guys calling her a “bitch”:
- Are still calling her names
Keep up your winning strategy.
We are still waiting for a list of actual career accomplishments in those positions but its been crickets. I'll get you started, she's been caught in numerous lies and people got killed under her leadership.
Well, if you hold your breath, maybe it will happen. LOL.
You got nothing as expected, sucks to be you.
I was always pro someone else & tried to make my case by pointing out Trump's flaws. I WAS still willing to hold my nose to stop Hillary by voting for Trump if necessary but have decided in the last couple days that, that isn't good enough.I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.
1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.
For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.
In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
You've always been against Trump.
Who are you trying to fool?
What does this even mean?Fortunately, even in Chicago, 12-year olds are not allowed to vote.
Though exceptions obviously exist for deceased 12-year olds.
Trump is Goldwater on steroidsReminds me of LBJ vs GoldwaterA warranted, justified, and real fear.Many Americans feel the same. They cannot bring themselves to vote for TrumpI will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.
1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.
For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.
In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
Hillary will run a campaign to accentuate the fear of what a Trump Presidency would mean.
LBJ was not a great candidate, neither is Hillary but Republicans gave both the same gift
LBJ slogan about Goldwater: In your guts, you know he's nuts
Hillary will do the same with Trump
Actually it was the Goldwater poster that said next to Goldwater's image: "In your heart you know he is right". It took a typical Democrat dishonesty to come up with your dishonest nonsense.
Instead of heeding it, America gave the vote to Johnson, who gave the world 200 years of blacks voting, unquestioningly, blindly, stupidly and unreasonably Democrat, refusing to see the Democrat damage to Detroit, Chicago, DC, New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Milwaukee, St. Louis, refusing to see that the Great Society of that beagle abusing, lying and crooked son of a bitch condemned them to the Democrat plantation for 200 years.
Third party gave the world Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. You know, Russ Perot in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 2000.
Voting is a right, not an obligation. Not helping the armed guard stop a robber does not mean I'm helping the robber.The world I live in is only as complicated as I make it. While politicians may set the rules my world is contained in, I have the ultimate choice on how difficult or easy my life is within that world. As most of you know my personal troubles from my past you'll have to imagine me laughing at anyone who thinks life is rough for them because of politics.
You have made your choice, we are just trying to understand your choice. You say you won't compromise your values, but you would be doing exactly that by sitting out and helping Hillary.Your welcome...........more to come.
Yes, because the line of constant attack has been so effective against the Clintons for the past 25 years.
In the past 25 years….
She:
- Most admired woman globally
- Grammy Award Winner
- Best Selling Author
- Won Senator From NY
- Won Senator From NY again
- Came in #2 for President in 2008 (ask the GOP “deep bench” how easy that is to do)
- Appointed Secretary of State 94-2
- Presumptive Nominee of the DNC for 2016 for President
You guys calling her a “bitch”:
- Are still calling her names
Keep up your winning strategy.
We are still waiting for a list of actual career accomplishments in those positions but its been crickets. I'll get you started, she's been caught in numerous lies and people got killed under her leadership.
Well, if you hold your breath, maybe it will happen. LOL.
You got nothing as expected, sucks to be you.
Care to make it interesting?
But talk is cheap….How about an Avatar bet? I have listed two 200 x 200 mp reasonably good pictures of both presumptive nominees below. The term of the bet is from 11:59 PM on election day evening to Noon 1/20/17 after the next President is sworn in.
The two avatars meet the requirements for USMB and they aren’t ugly pictures of the person who will be the President-Elect. It won’t embarrass anyone. So lets stick to those two. Lets keep it fun!!!
To make it clear
If Hillary becomes President, you use this avatar until election day:
If Donald Trump becomes President, I use this avatar until election day:
Counting electoral votes and 12th Amendment actions only. No wiggling out if popular vote and EV are in disagreement or if there is some sort of indictment/convention shenanigans.
Simply by whomever is duly elected President.
Deal?
Your welcome...........more to come.No problem.............because she is one.................of course the WAR ON WOMEN............as her hubby fucked everything in sight........The last 2 elections they left the gloves on.............I don't think so this time........hell Obama smacked her around and got the Super delegates even though her hubby had here back........between fucking interns.........lol
She is most definitely vulnerable to attack.........and Dems are already jumping ship because they can't stand the bitch.......maybe you will see this before November..
She's damaged goods..........enjoy that.
Democrats are incredibly intelligent when compared to Republicans and Rhodes Scholars when compared to Trump supporters. They’ll be back in November. What She needs though is for people like you to keep calling her a “bitch”. Keep it up.
There........more ammo for you.............
Perfect!!!
Yes, because the line of constant attack has been so effective against the Clintons for the past 25 years.
In the past 25 years….
She:
- Most admired woman globally
- Grammy Award Winner
- Best Selling Author
- Won Senator From NY
- Won Senator From NY again
- Came in #2 for President in 2008 (ask the GOP “deep bench” how easy that is to do)
- Appointed Secretary of State 94-2
- Presumptive Nominee of the DNC for 2016 for President
You guys calling her a “bitch”:
- Are still calling her names
Keep up your winning strategy.
I was always pro someone else & tried to make my case by pointing out Trump's flaws. I WAS still willing to hold my nose to stop Hillary by voting for Trump if necessary but have decided in the last couple days that, that isn't good enough.I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.
1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.
For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.
In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
You've always been against Trump.
Who are you trying to fool?
The only ones fooled are the ones not paying attention to my posting history.
Or consider that the problem isn’t with the two party system, but the hyper-partisan nature of the political process and the total war being waged on citizens’ rights, contrary to the intent of the Framers.My favorite ice cream is probably coffee; not chocolate or vanilla. The best car I’ve ever owned was a Mazda RX7 and my old beat up Jaguar I bought used for about $4,000 dollars; not the Chevy or Ford or Toyota. My favorite luggage set was Amelia Earhart luggage we bought at JC Penny I think; not Samsonite or American Tourister.
When you consider 3rd options you’re not violating some unspoken covenant between the world and yourself. You’re simply not satisfied with the choices or more satisfied with the third path. Coalition governments are found in many parts of the world. They have well educated people and a high standard of living.
It may be time for us to give that a try here.
Regardless of your personal preferences for whichever candidate, one can state with a high degree of certainty that the two party system has not served this nation well as of late.
That is what is so dangerous about Trump for conservativesOr consider that the problem isn’t with the two party system, but the hyper-partisan nature of the political process and the total war being waged on citizens’ rights, contrary to the intent of the Framers.My favorite ice cream is probably coffee; not chocolate or vanilla. The best car I’ve ever owned was a Mazda RX7 and my old beat up Jaguar I bought used for about $4,000 dollars; not the Chevy or Ford or Toyota. My favorite luggage set was Amelia Earhart luggage we bought at JC Penny I think; not Samsonite or American Tourister.
When you consider 3rd options you’re not violating some unspoken covenant between the world and yourself. You’re simply not satisfied with the choices or more satisfied with the third path. Coalition governments are found in many parts of the world. They have well educated people and a high standard of living.
It may be time for us to give that a try here.
Regardless of your personal preferences for whichever candidate, one can state with a high degree of certainty that the two party system has not served this nation well as of late.
This is what the Framers intended:
“Well, Donald Trump was elected president and republicans control Congress.
But not to worry – the Constitution and its case law will safeguard my civil liberties regardless what party is in power; my right to privacy if I’m a woman, my right to marry if I’m gay, my right to due process if I’m an immigrant, and my right to religious freedom if I’m a Muslim.
The Constitution, its jurisprudence, and the rule of law have removed my protected liberties from the political arena, my civil rights immune from attack by the state.”
Sadly, unfortunately, that’s not the case.
This November not only are control of the WH and Congress at stake, but for millions of Americans their very civil rights and protected liberties are at stake as well.
And that's not how it should be, that's not consistent with our Constitutional Republic.
Doesn't really matter what you believe."I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump. "
Gramps, to be honest, I don’t believe you.
I believe you believe this now, but after the conventions, when Election Day has arrived, you’ll be voting for Trump; you’re a partisan republican, it’s in your nature – particularly if the hated Clinton is the democratic nominee.
And to be fair, you’re not alone – there are many partisan republicans who say now they’ll ‘never vote for Trump,’ but will do just that come November.
Oh and by the way, I don't hate Hillary. I believe she would be bad for our debt & country as well as our sovereignty. Having said that I think Trump has just as many bad qualities and a lot of his are of a personal & moral nature."I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump. "
Gramps, to be honest, I don’t believe you.
I believe you believe this now, but after the conventions, when Election Day has arrived, you’ll be voting for Trump; you’re a partisan republican, it’s in your nature – particularly if the hated Clinton is the democratic nominee.
And to be fair, you’re not alone – there are many partisan republicans who say now they’ll ‘never vote for Trump,’ but will do just that come November.
People like you gave us Obama..You believe in Hillary that's the bottom lineThe things that I believe in are far more important than a Trump victory. I will not compromise my values so other voters are happy.I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.
1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.
For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.
In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
Congratulations.....Hillary appreciates your help.
Oh and by the way, I don't hate Hillary. I believe she would be bad for our debt & country as well as our sovereignty. Having said that I think Trump has just as many bad qualities and a lot of his are of a personal & moral nature."I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump. "
Gramps, to be honest, I don’t believe you.
I believe you believe this now, but after the conventions, when Election Day has arrived, you’ll be voting for Trump; you’re a partisan republican, it’s in your nature – particularly if the hated Clinton is the democratic nominee.
And to be fair, you’re not alone – there are many partisan republicans who say now they’ll ‘never vote for Trump,’ but will do just that come November.
While Hillary will drive up our unsustainable debt & flood our nation with salary killing illegal immigrants, Trump may cause a political divide of the nature we've never seen.
Just look at our colleges & large cities. Civil unrest not seen since the 60's & 70's.
Our country is imploding and NEITHER of these two are the prescription. I don't know about you but I have no interest in my grandkids inheriting a country that is mimicking the decline of the Roman empire.
Sonny Clark your classless candidate in a concise OP.I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.
1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.
For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.
In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
The Debt is one thing I would never worry about when it comes to Clinton....she is a fiscally conservative, just like her husband was and knows how to work with Republicans, to fix it, just like her husband did....Oh and by the way, I don't hate Hillary. I believe she would be bad for our debt & country as well as our sovereignty. Having said that I think Trump has just as many bad qualities and a lot of his are of a personal & moral nature."I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump. "
Gramps, to be honest, I don’t believe you.
I believe you believe this now, but after the conventions, when Election Day has arrived, you’ll be voting for Trump; you’re a partisan republican, it’s in your nature – particularly if the hated Clinton is the democratic nominee.
And to be fair, you’re not alone – there are many partisan republicans who say now they’ll ‘never vote for Trump,’ but will do just that come November.
While Hillary will drive up our unsustainable debt & flood our nation with salary killing illegal immigrants, Trump may cause a political divide of the nature we've never seen.
Just look at our colleges & large cities. Civil unrest not seen since the 60's & 70's.
Our country is imploding and NEITHER of these two are the prescription. I don't know about you but I have no interest in my grandkids inheriting a country that is mimicking the decline of the Roman empire.
I can't blame someone for refusing to play along.Look around at third parties. Your vote isn't wasted there, it's no less influential than anyone else's individual vote.I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.
1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.
For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.
In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
Gotta vote!
.
Third parties? Once you do that, you'll have taste for a fourth, fifth and sixth party until you realize that America is no better than Europe.
In America it is either a strike or a ball.
There is no more need for a third party than there is a need for an opera singer at a rock concert.
You either like something or you don't. It is a binary world, and anything in between is cowardly fence sitting. If you walk in the middle of the road you are liable to be mowed down by either left or right.
Third party in America is a passport the party you don't like. Or hate.
