BREAKING: CNN admit Paul Manafort was wiretapped

Remember those days when you called liberals a bunch of terrorist sympathizers because they did not like the shaky legal grounds that made the FISA courts the final say on the legality of any given surveillance? This is entirely legal because FISA said so. Don't like it? We told you so years ago when all you could do is kiss Bush ass.

First, FISA is a Carter creation. Second, it is not independent, it must be initiated by the administration. Dumbass.
By the Justice Department and the FBI, not the administration.

Too funny.

The Department of Justice is a department of the Executive branch ie: the administration. The FBI answers to the Justice Department.
The president does not just call up Justice and tell them to break the law on his behalf, nor is any conceivable AG going to cooperate with such a clearly illegal order.

So Lynch meets with Hillary's husband while the FBI is investigating her and you don't think she would do something illegal?

Hilarious!

You libs need to start a stand-up comedy group and go on tour!
 
This is huge. He was wiretapped before and after the election. Trump Was right about the Tower! Story is breaking everywhere.
Was Manafort living in Trump Tower when he was wiretapped?
Big difference between wiretapping Manafort and wiretapping Trump tower.
And a big difference between a court ordered warrent and Obama ordering it.


Hey, genius....you guys didn't know about his surveillance.....just wait...you are likely to find out even more people were under surveillance once the truth comes out.
i hope so! especially if they were colluding with the Russians criminal activity!!! :rolleyes:
 
Their reasoning was because Manafort worked for the Party of Regions. BUT guess who else worked for the Party of Regions? The Podesta Group.

Obviously they were only targeting the Trump campaign.
How do people as STUPID as you survive day to day???
There was NO Tramp campaign in 2014, and Manafort didn't join the campaign until 2016.

Both the Podesta Group and Manafort worked for the Party of Regions in the past. Only one was targeted. Hell's bells the Podesta Group was lobbying directly for a Russian bank to get the sanctions lifted during the freaking election.

Only the Trump team was targeted.
Bingo! This was about bugging the Trump campaign...supervised by ....James Comey.

There was no "Trump campaign" in 2014.
But their was in 2016 and wiretapping continued. Was Podesta wiretapped?

Why would the investigation into Manafort stop just because Donald Trump decided to run for President?

As for whether Podesta is under investigation, I have no idea. Neither do you.

The whole thing about FISA warrants is that they're secret.
 
So the whole question of all of this - what was the time frame of that 2nd warrant?
Irrelevant, if the evidence was compelling enough for the first one it was good enough to renew the warrant. Manafort did not become less of a suspect just because he became directly involved in a campaign.
So you are saying, that there is no possible way that a legal wiretap used during the Trump campaign, could be used illegally against him to influence the election?
 
Remember those days when you called liberals a bunch of terrorist sympathizers because they did not like the shaky legal grounds that made the FISA courts the final say on the legality of any given surveillance? This is entirely legal because FISA said so. Don't like it? We told you so years ago when all you could do is kiss Bush ass.


You ARE terrorists.

And you illegally tapped the opposition campaign.

Remember when they drove Nixon from office for covering up that act?
I did not actually have anything to do with any of it, I do not work for the government. Quit personalizing your unfocused rage on me.

The point you are missing in the OPs article is that this wiretap was initiated before he was Trump's CM and was done legally by going through proper channels. That means evidence was presented to judges and they thought the wiretap was warranted. Watch as your pundits and congressmen do not say shit about this in the coming days, they know this is big trouble for them, not Obama. None of them really wants the evidence presented for this tap to ever come out. Trump might even be smart enough to not tweet about this.
FISA judges...in Washington D.C. Real good.
It's what you guys all wanted back when we all became aware of domestic spying. Liberals wanted something far more transparent and accountable but you Bushbots just said if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing worry about, worried yet?
 
Remember those days when you called liberals a bunch of terrorist sympathizers because they did not like the shaky legal grounds that made the FISA courts the final say on the legality of any given surveillance? This is entirely legal because FISA said so. Don't like it? We told you so years ago when all you could do is kiss Bush ass.

First, FISA is a Carter creation. Second, it is not independent, it must be initiated by the administration. Dumbass.
By the Justice Department and the FBI, not the administration.

Too funny.

The Department of Justice is a department of the Executive branch ie: the administration. The FBI answers to the Justice Department.
The president does not just call up Justice and tell them to break the law on his behalf, nor is any conceivable AG going to cooperate with such a clearly illegal order.

So Lynch meets with Hillary's husband while the FBI is investigating her and you don't think she would do something illegal?

Hilarious!

You libs need to start a stand-up comedy group and go on tour!
So now Hillary was involved too??? :ack-1:
 
The LAST thing Barry ever cared about is FISA, as evident by his illegally spying on Americans, spying on the Senate, spying on the US Supreme Court...

After 1st lying under oath, Clapper was allowed to re-testify and he admitted that the Obama administration was illegally spying on the American people.

Similarly it was discovered Brennan had also lied, that they were illegally spying...

The Constitution and law meant nothing to Obama, as evident by not only all that but also illegally using the IRS as his own personal political weapon weapon against citizens who opposed Obama's re-election.

You think someone who does that adheres to the law? Really?
Looks like you forgot the time Bush shoved Bin Ladin in your face and you meekly consented to mass domestic surveillance.

Also if your man was not neck deep in Russia their suspicious communications with high ranking Russians would not be a problem. At some point someone brought some sort of evidence before the FISA court and it was enough that Judges, not Obama, said go ahead. You seem to not even be aware that the president cannot just order wiretapping.
Forget UBL?

UBL is irrelevant in regards to Obama's continuous violations of both Constitution and Law by illegally spying on Americans, reporters, the US Senate, and the USSC...
Do you actually think that this article validates any of that unsubstantiated conspiracy theory bullshit? This passed through legal channels, why are you not interested in the evidence presented in court that made FISA say go ahead? I for one am very curious.
Bullshit? So tell me snowflake, during which testimony was Clapper lying under oath, when he said Obama was not illegally spying on Americans or when he testified Obama was?
The question of the legality of any instance of domestic spying is for the lawyers to figure out, not us, but your man has expressed surprise that the president cannot just order surveillance on Americans. Seems you are unaware of this as well.
Nothing you just said takes away from the fact that Obama illegally spied in Americans, the media, the US Senate, and the USSC...that he illegally used the IRS against American citizens...that Clapper re-testified that Obama did spy on Americans so he could avoid Perjury charges for lying the qst time.

You failed to answer the question, or rather dstracted from it - which time was Clapper committing Perjury - his 1st or 2nd time testifying? :p
 
Donald Trump will likely issue a presidential pardon of Paul Manafort.
Maybe, but it would be the most stupid, self-sabotaging thing a president ever did.
This is becoming the most embarrassing line of attack the democrats could possibly have come up with.

Obie never witetapped Trump. But he did. And the result of that is nothing but exposing the Dems as liars and criminals.

This isn't good news for you.

Obama didn't wiretap Trump.

Repeating the same lie, over and over, isn't really going to help you.
Obie didn't wire tap Trump! But with this information from a wiretap we had on his campaign we really got something now!

You're fucked.

A FISA wiretap was placed on Paul Manafort in 2014, long before there was a Trump campaign.

You'd know this, if you'd actually bothered to read the article in the OP.

Since no one has heard about this one before, how do we know there were not others being wiretapped also?
 
To anyone with common sense, it's obvious the Obama Administration conducted surveillance on Trump and his associates. It's Watergate Ten-Fold. Surveilling the opposition's Presidential Nominee is both very disturbing, and likely illegal. Hopefully, Obama and his lackeys will be held accountable. But don't your hold your breathe waiting for it to happen. We stopped being a nation of laws long ago.
 
"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!" - Trump in March


He was wrong, the article clearly states that Manafort was being monitored as far back as 2014.


No.....the article also states they got another warrant.....

Read the statement again... Trump said they got a warrant after it was turned down by a court earlier. That's FALSE. They were granted one initially, then stopped, and then got another one when they felt they needed it.
To spy on the Trump campaign.


No... it was because they intercepted more communications with Russia, and so did European allies.
 
So the whole question of all of this - what was the time frame of that 2nd warrant?
Irrelevant, if the evidence was compelling enough for the first one it was good enough to renew the warrant. Manafort did not become less of a suspect just because he became directly involved in a campaign.
So you are saying, that there is no possible way that a legal wiretap used during the Trump campaign, could be used illegally against him to influence the election?
I suppose it could if there was anything that actually leaked that seemed to be based on NSA wiretaps. The only thing the Obama administration had to say was that the intelligence community was unanimous that Russia had launched an espionage op on our election.
 
Maybe, but it would be the most stupid, self-sabotaging thing a president ever did.
This is becoming the most embarrassing line of attack the democrats could possibly have come up with.

Obie never witetapped Trump. But he did. And the result of that is nothing but exposing the Dems as liars and criminals.

This isn't good news for you.

Obama didn't wiretap Trump.

Repeating the same lie, over and over, isn't really going to help you.
Obie didn't wire tap Trump! But with this information from a wiretap we had on his campaign we really got something now!

You're fucked.

A FISA wiretap was placed on Paul Manafort in 2014, long before there was a Trump campaign.

You'd know this, if you'd actually bothered to read the article in the OP.

Since no one has heard about this one before, how do we know there were not others being wiretapped also?


Yep.....that is the key....you can bet if obama was surveilling one, he was surveilling as many others as he wanted.....
 
John Podesta was wiretapped too....how much you wanna bet some of that information was Bleach Bitted when hilary destroyed her emails.....?
 
John Podesta was wiretapped too....how much you wanna bet some of that information was Bleach Bitted when hilary destroyed her emails.....?

Was Hillary colluding with Russians to influence the election? I look forward to Hillary becoming president after Trump's illegal win is overturned.
 
So the whole question of all of this - what was the time frame of that 2nd warrant?
Irrelevant, if the evidence was compelling enough for the first one it was good enough to renew the warrant. Manafort did not become less of a suspect just because he became directly involved in a campaign.
So you are saying, that there is no possible way that a legal wiretap used during the Trump campaign, could be used illegally against him to influence the election?
I suppose it could if there was anything that actually leaked that seemed to be based on NSA wiretaps. The only thing the Obama administration had to say was that the intelligence community was unanimous that Russia had launched an espionage op on our election.
Thank you. Then I will stand by the relevance of my previous post.
 
To anyone with common sense, it's obvious the Obama Administration conducted surveillance on Trump and his associates. It's Watergate Ten-Fold. Surveilling the opposition's Presidential Nominee is both very disturbing, and likely illegal. Hopefully, Obama and his lackeys will be held accountable. But don't your hold your breathe waiting for it to happen. We stopped being a nation of laws long ago.
Stopped around 2008.
 
Maybe, but it would be the most stupid, self-sabotaging thing a president ever did.
This is becoming the most embarrassing line of attack the democrats could possibly have come up with.

Obie never witetapped Trump. But he did. And the result of that is nothing but exposing the Dems as liars and criminals.

This isn't good news for you.

Obama didn't wiretap Trump.

Repeating the same lie, over and over, isn't really going to help you.
Obie didn't wire tap Trump! But with this information from a wiretap we had on his campaign we really got something now!

You're fucked.

A FISA wiretap was placed on Paul Manafort in 2014, long before there was a Trump campaign.

You'd know this, if you'd actually bothered to read the article in the OP.

Since no one has heard about this one before, how do we know there were not others being wiretapped also?

We don't. I don't know that you're not a serial killer.

The lack of proof to the contrary is not "evidence" of anything.
 
Their reasoning was because Manafort worked for the Party of Regions. BUT guess who else worked for the Party of Regions? The Podesta Group.

Obviously they were only targeting the Trump campaign.
How do people as STUPID as you survive day to day???
There was NO Tramp campaign in 2014, and Manafort didn't join the campaign until 2016.

Both the Podesta Group and Manafort worked for the Party of Regions in the past. Only one was targeted. Hell's bells the Podesta Group was lobbying directly for a Russian bank to get the sanctions lifted during the freaking election.

Only the Trump team was targeted.
Bingo! This was about bugging the Trump campaign...supervised by ....James Comey.

There was no "Trump campaign" in 2014.
The FBI interest in Manafort dates back at least to 2014, partly as an outgrowth of a US investigation of Viktor Yanukovych, the former Ukrainian president whose pro-Russian regime was ousted amid street protests.

(trump only chooses the best people)
 

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