Callous Conservatives, Time to wake up!

[bedowin62]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

So the federal government can't invest in our own country. Do you realize that we'd be the only nation on earth that can't do that? Do you have any fucking idea how much weaker we'd be if we stopped? Do you even think such shit through????? Of course you don't, but you'll blame Obama for our economic troubles.

The federal government can't invest anything, because they produce no product. Simply a drain on the economy or agent of redistribution, which they consistently do a poor job of being successful in their programs.

Don't understand what Gov't actually does huh? Shocking


SS the INSURANCE program keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty!

of course you cant say the same thing could have happened if they kept their money idiot

 

[kaz]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

So the federal government can't invest in our own country. Do you realize that we'd be the only nation on earth that can't do that? Do you have any fucking idea how much weaker we'd be if we stopped? Do you even think such shit through????? Of course you don't, but you'll blame Obama for our economic troubles.

The federal government can't invest anything, because they produce no product. Simply a drain on the economy or agent of redistribution, which they consistently do a poor job of being successful in their programs.

Don't understand what Gov't actually does huh? Shocking


SS the INSURANCE program keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty!

How is government confiscating and redistributing money "insurance?" You get more stupid every day in every way

 

[Lonestar_logic]

One year after voters in the City of SeaTac agreed to increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour, city leaders have noticed little impact on the overall economy.

An estimated 1,500 total workers saw their minimum wage increase under the new law. Around 400 actually live in the city limits.

City manager Todd Cutts says there has been no impact on sales tax or property tax, and no measurable change in the number of business licenses issued.

1 year after $15 minimum wage, little impact in SeaTac


How Raising The Minimum Wage To $15 Changed These Workers' Lives

Sammi Babakrkhil got a whopping 57 percent raise.

A valet attendant and shuttle driver at a parking company called MasterPark, Babakrkhil saw his base wage jump from $9.55 per hour, before tips, up to $15. Having scraped by in America since immigrating from Afghanistan 11 years ago, he suddenly faced the pleasant predicament as his co-workers: What to do with the windfall?

For the overworked father of three, it wasn't a hard question. Babakrkhil decided to quit his other full-time job driving shuttles at a hotel down the road. Though he'd take home less money overall, the pay hike at MasterPark would allow him to work 40 hours a week instead of a brutal 80 -- and to actually spend time with his wife and three young girls.



My kids used to not see me," said Babakrkhil, who notes that the new work arrangement has also afforded him time to start exercising. "Now I make a little bit less, but I'm enjoying my life ... I'm happy this way."


Babakrkhil's colleague Deyo Hirata, who also received a considerable raise, said he now frets less about making ends meet. Though he has always taken pride in his job and maintained a good relationship with his managers, he says the wage hike has made him feel better rewarded for his labor

How Raising The Minimum Wage To $15 Changed These Workers' Lives

It changed a few peoples lives but hurt a few businesses as well. "The owner of Z Pizza says she’s being forced to close her doors, because she can’t afford the higher labor costs", some business has to lay off workers to meet the minimum wage demand, trimming staff hours, opening later closing earlier, raising prices all in an effort to meet the requirement. It seems to me it hurts more people than it helps.

MORE right wing BS. Shocking. Hint if she closed her doors, GUARANTEED she had problems BEFORE they upped the min wage

Hurts more people? lol

EVERY TIME THE US TALKS ABOUT LIFTING THE MIN WAGE THE RIGHT WINGERS RUN AROUND CLAIMING THE SKY IS FALLING, BUT YET ONCE DONE, IT NEVER SEEMS TO HAVE HAPPENED. Costs increase ALL the time, a GOOD BIZ, ADJUSTS!

you are the same idiot who cries it almost never gets raised in the first place dullard; so by your own admission you are staking a claim it doesnt do any harm based on very limited evidence

i see; you want to take credit for job creation but not the kind of job or what it pays?
how much SHOULD a burger flipper be paid leftard


idiots and hypocrites

If you want to own a business, you can't expect to do so without employees. High turnover is expensive, and not everyone can flip a burger and make it palatable, something a customer wants again and again.

If you've lived in an area for a long time you've seen businesses open and fail. Most small businesses fail and it's not a result of poor, lazy or stupid employees. Sometimes a very good business is sold, and the name remains the same. In one trip it becomes obvious the product is different and not worth a return trip. It is especially noticeable in restaurants; poor quality, poor prep and poor presentation.

You didn't answer the question, how much should a burger flipper be paid?

It depends on the business revenue. How much should a CEO be paid? Should it not depend on the success of the business? And if so, the contrabutions of other employees contribute to a successful business.

So in response the stupid question, it depends. Notice too, American teens are less and less seeking jobs in the fast food industry, tired of being exploited they have mostly moved on. Now the FF industry relies mostly on immigrants.

Still haven't answered the question.

You got an answer, "it depends" with an explanation. If you're too stupid to understand that was an answer, that makes you pitiful.

On the other hand, if you a playing the conservative game, and will continue to ask the queston over and over, and deny it has not been answered (because it wasn't what you wanted to hear) it's more likely you are a dishonest callous conservative, as well as willfully ignorant.

No you didn't answer the question. "It depends" isn't an answer and two questions doesn't make an answer. The answer would be in the form of a dollar amount. How much should a burger flipper be paid?

 

[Dad2three]

Yep, in the Kaz Klown Kar world, statics and history don't matter, it was someone just being a slob or lazy *shaking head*

And what does that have to do with the point I made, grasshopper?

Your false premise Bubs?

Nope, what you posted contradicted nothing that I said

You mean the false premise you put up as truth??

What was that, Holmes? I said nothing about wages and salaries in relation to corporate profits at all, you pulled it out of your ass, dud

You mean the shrinking share of costs as RECORD CORP PROFITS KEEP GROWING, yet according to you, it's because of being lazy and a slob the Corps aren't hiring OR PAYING ENOUGH? lol

 

[saveliberty]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

Sure it does, that why the US has SS and Medicare right?

Where are your European examples, which liberals often quote as superior?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Blah blah, corporations, blah blah, the rich, got it, Karl. Maybe if you got off your lazy ass and worked, that would do the trick too

PERHAPS those "job creators" despite RECORD CORP PROFITS, LOWEST SUSTAINED TAX BURDEN SINCE BEFORE HARDING/COOLIDGE GREAT DEPRESSION AND LOWEST CORP TAX "BURDEN" IN 40 YEARS, SHOULD STEP UP? Or do away with some of these "job creator" benefits like doubling the EFFECTIVE tax rates?

You're an angry little maggot. Turn off your greed and turn on your ambition and you will go places. In the meantime, your Marxist rhetoric is as useless as you are

Your ad hom noted and ignored Bubs

what about your yelling and stomping your feet demanding other people's money?

OPM? Oh you mean GOOD GOV'T POLICY the society gets to decide on? You've heard of it right? In the US it was created when the Founders chose the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T Constitution over that libertarian Articles of CONfederation?

How can you vote to stay the course when Obama is not running? Democrats are going socialist, so it looks like you have the change thing going.

Name a single society that doesn't regulate their economy or invest in it???? George washington, Adams, Jefferson, etc also did the same. The current constitutions gave the federal government the power to tax and spend on our own country...The constitution was modeled after the roman republic, Greece, etc...Do you realize these countries spent tax dollars to build infrastructure and on down the list???

Dozens of other nations were modeled on our Constitution and they all invest in themselves. To say otherwise is a loserterian day dream and it doesn't work in the real world.

Do I like some of the lefts social ideas? Fuck no, but if this is what the right has to offer get ready to be laughed off the stage.

 

[Dad2three]

PERHAPS those "job creators" despite RECORD CORP PROFITS, LOWEST SUSTAINED TAX BURDEN SINCE BEFORE HARDING/COOLIDGE GREAT DEPRESSION AND LOWEST CORP TAX "BURDEN" IN 40 YEARS, SHOULD STEP UP? Or do away with some of these "job creator" benefits like doubling the EFFECTIVE tax rates?

You're an angry little maggot. Turn off your greed and turn on your ambition and you will go places. In the meantime, your Marxist rhetoric is as useless as you are

Your ad hom noted and ignored Bubs

what about your yelling and stomping your feet demanding other people's money?

OPM? Oh you mean GOOD GOV'T POLICY the society gets to decide on? You've heard of it right? In the US it was created when the Founders chose the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T Constitution over that libertarian Articles of CONfederation?

Actually the founders picked the libertarian Constitution over the anarchist articles of confederation. you'd know that if you weren't an idiot. You welfare whores came later, much later

Sure Bubba, sure. Which is closer to losertarian ideals, the Articles or that STRONG Fed Gov't thing that created Gov't policy like HUGE PROTECTIONIST POLICY?

 

[kaz]

And what does that have to do with the point I made, grasshopper?

Your false premise Bubs?

Nope, what you posted contradicted nothing that I said

You mean the false premise you put up as truth??

What was that, Holmes? I said nothing about wages and salaries in relation to corporate profits at all, you pulled it out of your ass, dud

You mean the shrinking share of costs as RECORD CORP PROFITS KEEP GROWING, yet according to you, it's because of being lazy and a slob the Corps aren't hiring OR PAYING ENOUGH? lol

Nothing I said had anything to do with "corporate profits." What is wrong with you? How stupid are you? The world ... may never know, sucker

 

[bedowin62]

PERHAPS those "job creators" despite RECORD CORP PROFITS, LOWEST SUSTAINED TAX BURDEN SINCE BEFORE HARDING/COOLIDGE GREAT DEPRESSION AND LOWEST CORP TAX "BURDEN" IN 40 YEARS, SHOULD STEP UP? Or do away with some of these "job creator" benefits like doubling the EFFECTIVE tax rates?

You're an angry little maggot. Turn off your greed and turn on your ambition and you will go places. In the meantime, your Marxist rhetoric is as useless as you are

Your ad hom noted and ignored Bubs

what about your yelling and stomping your feet demanding other people's money?

OPM? Oh you mean GOOD GOV'T POLICY the society gets to decide on? You've heard of it right? In the US it was created when the Founders chose the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T Constitution over that libertarian Articles of CONfederation?

How can you vote to stay the course when Obama is not running? Democrats are going socialist, so it looks like you have the change thing going.

Name a single society that doesn't regulate their economy or invest in it???? George washington, Adams, Jefferson, etc also did the same. The current constitutions gave the federal government the power to tax and spend on our own country...The constitution was modeled after the roman republic, Greece, etc...Do you realize these countries spend tax dollars to build infrastructure and on down the list???

Dozens of other nations were modeled on our Constitution and they all invest in themselves. To this otherwise is a loserterian day dream and it doesn't work in the real world.

Do I like some of the lefts social ideas? Fuck no, but if this is what the right has to offer get ready to be laughed off the stage.

laughed off the stage as in House and Senate majorities and 31 of the Governor's seats idiot???

 

[ScienceRocks]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

Sure it does, that why the US has SS and Medicare right?

Where are your European examples, which liberals often quote as superior?

I'd think the german and french system is probably better in some ways. But that is from my reading of them! I am glad that we make sure our old people are taken care of in this nation.

We're better for it. You'd really have to be a heartless uncaring piece of crap to be a modern day loserterian.

 

[Dad2three]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

So the federal government can't invest in our own country. Do you realize that we'd be the only nation on earth that can't do that? Do you have any fucking idea how much weaker we'd be if we stopped? Do you even think such shit through????? Of course you don't, but you'll blame Obama for our economic troubles.

LOL, yeah, government spending is "investment." I invested my money in a goat cheese sandwich for lunch, how much profit do you think I'll make on that sucker?

You expect Gov't to make a profit Bubs? Oh right a losertarian!

 

[saveliberty]

Don't understand what Gov't actually does huh? Shocking


SS the INSURANCE program keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty!

I understand that Americans and their employers, not their government, set aside funds for retirement. Then the government "borrows" from them.

 

[kaz]

You're an angry little maggot. Turn off your greed and turn on your ambition and you will go places. In the meantime, your Marxist rhetoric is as useless as you are

Your ad hom noted and ignored Bubs

what about your yelling and stomping your feet demanding other people's money?

OPM? Oh you mean GOOD GOV'T POLICY the society gets to decide on? You've heard of it right? In the US it was created when the Founders chose the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T Constitution over that libertarian Articles of CONfederation?

Actually the founders picked the libertarian Constitution over the anarchist articles of confederation. you'd know that if you weren't an idiot. You welfare whores came later, much later

Sure Bubba, sure. Which is closer to losertarian ideals, the Articles or that STRONG Fed Gov't thing that created Gov't policy like HUGE PROTECTIONIST POLICY?

The Constitution is almost identical to modern small government libertarian views. It has zero in common with liberalism. You are just leeches who latch on to any potential meal ticket you can subvert

 

[Dad2three]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

So the federal government can't invest in our own country. Do you realize that we'd be the only nation on earth that can't do that? Do you have any fucking idea how much weaker we'd be if we stopped? Do you even think such shit through????? Of course you don't, but you'll blame Obama for our economic troubles.

The federal government can't invest anything, because they produce no product. Simply a drain on the economy or agent of redistribution, which they consistently do a poor job of being successful in their programs.

Don't understand what Gov't actually does huh? Shocking


SS the INSURANCE program keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty!

How is government confiscating and redistributing money "insurance?" You get more stupid every day in every way

Don't understand how insurance works huh Bubs? Shocking

 

[kaz]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

So the federal government can't invest in our own country. Do you realize that we'd be the only nation on earth that can't do that? Do you have any fucking idea how much weaker we'd be if we stopped? Do you even think such shit through????? Of course you don't, but you'll blame Obama for our economic troubles.

LOL, yeah, government spending is "investment." I invested my money in a goat cheese sandwich for lunch, how much profit do you think I'll make on that sucker?

You expect Gov't to make a profit Bubs? Oh right a losertarian!

Not what I said at all, retard. You really are stupid

 

[kaz]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

So the federal government can't invest in our own country. Do you realize that we'd be the only nation on earth that can't do that? Do you have any fucking idea how much weaker we'd be if we stopped? Do you even think such shit through????? Of course you don't, but you'll blame Obama for our economic troubles.

The federal government can't invest anything, because they produce no product. Simply a drain on the economy or agent of redistribution, which they consistently do a poor job of being successful in their programs.

Don't understand what Gov't actually does huh? Shocking


SS the INSURANCE program keeps nearly half of seniors out of poverty!

How is government confiscating and redistributing money "insurance?" You get more stupid every day in every way

Don't understand how insurance works huh Bubs? Shocking

No, you don't. Insurance is when you buy protection from a potential event. Social Security pays out to all based on age, that has nothing to do with "insurance"

 

[Dad2three]

One year after voters in the City of SeaTac agreed to increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour, city leaders have noticed little impact on the overall economy.

An estimated 1,500 total workers saw their minimum wage increase under the new law. Around 400 actually live in the city limits.

City manager Todd Cutts says there has been no impact on sales tax or property tax, and no measurable change in the number of business licenses issued.

1 year after $15 minimum wage, little impact in SeaTac


How Raising The Minimum Wage To $15 Changed These Workers' Lives

Sammi Babakrkhil got a whopping 57 percent raise.

A valet attendant and shuttle driver at a parking company called MasterPark, Babakrkhil saw his base wage jump from $9.55 per hour, before tips, up to $15. Having scraped by in America since immigrating from Afghanistan 11 years ago, he suddenly faced the pleasant predicament as his co-workers: What to do with the windfall?

For the overworked father of three, it wasn't a hard question. Babakrkhil decided to quit his other full-time job driving shuttles at a hotel down the road. Though he'd take home less money overall, the pay hike at MasterPark would allow him to work 40 hours a week instead of a brutal 80 -- and to actually spend time with his wife and three young girls.



My kids used to not see me," said Babakrkhil, who notes that the new work arrangement has also afforded him time to start exercising. "Now I make a little bit less, but I'm enjoying my life ... I'm happy this way."


Babakrkhil's colleague Deyo Hirata, who also received a considerable raise, said he now frets less about making ends meet. Though he has always taken pride in his job and maintained a good relationship with his managers, he says the wage hike has made him feel better rewarded for his labor

How Raising The Minimum Wage To $15 Changed These Workers' Lives

It changed a few peoples lives but hurt a few businesses as well. "The owner of Z Pizza says she’s being forced to close her doors, because she can’t afford the higher labor costs", some business has to lay off workers to meet the minimum wage demand, trimming staff hours, opening later closing earlier, raising prices all in an effort to meet the requirement. It seems to me it hurts more people than it helps.

MORE right wing BS. Shocking. Hint if she closed her doors, GUARANTEED she had problems BEFORE they upped the min wage

Hurts more people? lol

EVERY TIME THE US TALKS ABOUT LIFTING THE MIN WAGE THE RIGHT WINGERS RUN AROUND CLAIMING THE SKY IS FALLING, BUT YET ONCE DONE, IT NEVER SEEMS TO HAVE HAPPENED. Costs increase ALL the time, a GOOD BIZ, ADJUSTS!

you are the same idiot who cries it almost never gets raised in the first place dullard; so by your own admission you are staking a claim it doesnt do any harm based on very limited evidence

If you want to own a business, you can't expect to do so without employees. High turnover is expensive, and not everyone can flip a burger and make it palatable, something a customer wants again and again.

If you've lived in an area for a long time you've seen businesses open and fail. Most small businesses fail and it's not a result of poor, lazy or stupid employees. Sometimes a very good business is sold, and the name remains the same. In one trip it becomes obvious the product is different and not worth a return trip. It is especially noticeable in restaurants; poor quality, poor prep and poor presentation.

You didn't answer the question, how much should a burger flipper be paid?

It depends on the business revenue. How much should a CEO be paid? Should it not depend on the success of the business? And if so, the contrabutions of other employees contribute to a successful business.

So in response the stupid question, it depends. Notice too, American teens are less and less seeking jobs in the fast food industry, tired of being exploited they have mostly moved on. Now the FF industry relies mostly on immigrants.

Still haven't answered the question.

You got an answer, "it depends" with an explanation. If you're too stupid to understand that was an answer, that makes you pitiful.

On the other hand, if you a playing the conservative game, and will continue to ask the queston over and over, and deny it has not been answered (because it wasn't what you wanted to hear) it's more likely you are a dishonest callous conservative, as well as willfully ignorant.

No you didn't answer the question. "It depends" isn't an answer and two questions doesn't make an answer. The answer would be in the form of a dollar amount. How much should a burger flipper be paid?

AT LEAST MIN WAGE. Min wage today in the US should be $15 an hour, then adjust it for inflation!

 

[Dad2three]

The Constitution limits federal powers and gives the rest to its citizens and individual states.

Sure it does, that why the US has SS and Medicare right?

Where are your European examples, which liberals often quote as superior?

Swiz, Germany, Norway. Which one Bubs?

 

[saveliberty]

Callousness is telling the poor you will help them escape poverty in exchange for their votes, then keeping them in poverty. I just defined the Democratic Party.

 

[kaz]

PERHAPS those "job creators" despite RECORD CORP PROFITS, LOWEST SUSTAINED TAX BURDEN SINCE BEFORE HARDING/COOLIDGE GREAT DEPRESSION AND LOWEST CORP TAX "BURDEN" IN 40 YEARS, SHOULD STEP UP? Or do away with some of these "job creator" benefits like doubling the EFFECTIVE tax rates?

You're an angry little maggot. Turn off your greed and turn on your ambition and you will go places. In the meantime, your Marxist rhetoric is as useless as you are

Your ad hom noted and ignored Bubs

what about your yelling and stomping your feet demanding other people's money?

OPM? Oh you mean GOOD GOV'T POLICY the society gets to decide on? You've heard of it right? In the US it was created when the Founders chose the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T Constitution over that libertarian Articles of CONfederation?

How can you vote to stay the course when Obama is not running? Democrats are going socialist, so it looks like you have the change thing going.

Name a single society that doesn't regulate their economy or invest in it???? George washington, Adams, Jefferson, etc also did the same. The current constitutions gave the federal government the power to tax and spend on our own country...The constitution was modeled after the roman republic, Greece, etc...Do you realize these countries spent tax dollars to build infrastructure and on down the list???

Dozens of other nations were modeled on our Constitution and they all invest in themselves. To say otherwise is a loserterian day dream and it doesn't work in the real world.

Do I like some of the lefts social ideas? Fuck no, but if this is what the right has to offer get ready to be laughed off the stage.

now you parlay "invest" to "regulate?" was that supposed to make sense, Moonwalker?