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So did Reagan, it's something that has been going on since the early eighties. When union busters got Reagan, the ex president of the screen actors guild, to be anti-union...Can we talk about what Obama actually DID?
Sure, he lied his ass off, sided with foreign criminals over Americans, and ignored the will of the American people. Voters told Obama NO we don't agree with you and Obama said fuck y'all.
Here is your problem..
Boy, I'm really failing to get this conversation going on other threads, so I'll try to start one.
From what I've seen the main takeaway from this act is that most illegals will not be deported if they have not been here long enough; they have to pass criminal and security background checks, they have to pay taxes and prove their eligibility to stay.
Seems like much ado about not that much to me.
I also heard him challenge the GOP Congress to pass a bill that will override this act. So, as I asked on another thread -- don't we all agree that our immigration system is fucked up? Don't we want to fix something that is important and fucked up?
And why, precisely, wouldn't the GOP jump at this opportunity to pass a bill and put it on Obama's desk?
What am I missing?
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No, I don't agree at all.don't we all agree that our immigration system is fucked up?
And it appears no one can say exactly what WAS broken either.
It was suppose to be secured under Bush but it was a half assed job that was left undone....So did Reagan, it's something that has been going on since the early eighties. When union busters got Reagan, the ex president of the screen actors guild, to be anti-union...Can we talk about what Obama actually DID?
Sure, he lied his ass off, sided with foreign criminals over Americans, and ignored the will of the American people. Voters told Obama NO we don't agree with you and Obama said fuck y'all.
I don't disagree, Reagan, Bush, Obama all screwed over Americans siding with illegals. Under Reagan's amnesty the damn border was supposed to be secured but of course lying Democrats reneged on that part of the deal. And 10 years later studies proved Reagan's amnesty was a net loss for our economy.
Seemed to have worked for the eight years the Democrats did nothing but try to make Bush a failure.The Senate passed a bipartisan bill with 68 votes...seriously, in this divided government, 68 votes in the Senate on an immigration bill that the Boehner has refused to allow the full House to vote on...because it will pass. This bill was passed by the Senate over 500 days ago.
The plan has been to never let the President to ever appear to have any victory and then complain loudly that he is not getting anything done.
Works for the faithful and stupid.
That made no sense at all. It IS leadership to prevent harm to occur to our country, even if that harm is initiated inside the government.No, I don't agree at all.don't we all agree that our immigration system is fucked up?
And it appears no one can say exactly what WAS broken either.
Deja vu to the health care debate.
"Nothing is wrong, so we're just gonna sit here. And when the Democrats actually do something, we're going to try to stop them. And when we can't we just call them Marxists."
Great leadership, really top-flight.
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So, noticeably, you can't say what was wrong with our immigration system.No, I don't agree at all.don't we all agree that our immigration system is fucked up?
And it appears no one can say exactly what WAS broken either.
Deja vu to the health care debate.
"Nothing is wrong, so we're just gonna sit here. And when the Democrats actually do something, we're going to try to stop them. And when we can't we just call them Marxists."
Great leadership, really top-flight.
A lie. Pretty simply put, this statement is a deflection because you have no real answer to the statement that nothing needs to be fixed.The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
I enjoyed his EO making the worlds largest marine reserve....around Hawaii...bush did other things I approved of...but you people are like a divorcing couple, no way would you give the other partner credit for a good act or word....Seemed to have worked for the eight years the Democrats did nothing but try to make Bush a failure.The Senate passed a bipartisan bill with 68 votes...seriously, in this divided government, 68 votes in the Senate on an immigration bill that the Boehner has refused to allow the full House to vote on...because it will pass. This bill was passed by the Senate over 500 days ago.
The plan has been to never let the President to ever appear to have any victory and then complain loudly that he is not getting anything done.
Works for the faithful and stupid.
The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
Two negatives does not a positive make...A lie. Pretty simply put, this statement is a deflection because you have no real answer to the statement that nothing needs to be fixed.The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
So are the employers, renters, car dealers, etc, etc...I am a criminal because I refuse to follow certain laws also.....If that be the decision, I am fine living in the same spirit as the Founding Fathers when they refused to follow the King's law and edicts...The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
Our immigration system consists of laws ... People not following the laws doesn't mean it is broken ... It means the illegal immigrants are criminals.
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I'm asking him to act like an experienced manager...come up with comprehensive solutions that solve the problem, working together with congress....leading....not dictating.If you are asking ONE person to fix the problem, aren't you wanting him to act like a dictator?The MinC put a bandaid on the skin cancer that is festering on the ass of America. Fix the problem you useless ahole!
But a deflection makes for a temporary amusement.Two negatives does not a positive make...A lie. Pretty simply put, this statement is a deflection because you have no real answer to the statement that nothing needs to be fixed.The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
So are the employers, renters, car dealers, etc, etc...The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
Our immigration system consists of laws ... People not following the laws doesn't mean it is broken ... It means the illegal immigrants are criminals.
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That made no sense at all. It IS leadership to prevent harm to occur to our country, even if that harm is initiated inside the government.No, I don't agree at all.don't we all agree that our immigration system is fucked up?
And it appears no one can say exactly what WAS broken either.
Deja vu to the health care debate.
"Nothing is wrong, so we're just gonna sit here. And when the Democrats actually do something, we're going to try to stop them. And when we can't we just call them Marxists."
Great leadership, really top-flight.
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There is nothing that needs to be fixed, reformed, or altered. It just needs to be enforced.
Thanks for making our point for us.So are the employers, renters, car dealers, etc, etc...The immigration system is broken because that is how the ones that want cheap labor want it.....
Our immigration system consists of laws ... People not following the laws doesn't mean it is broken ... It means the illegal immigrants are criminals.
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It was suppose to be secured under Bush but it was a half assed job that was left undone....So did Reagan, it's something that has been going on since the early eighties. When union busters got Reagan, the ex president of the screen actors guild, to be anti-union...Can we talk about what Obama actually DID?
Sure, he lied his ass off, sided with foreign criminals over Americans, and ignored the will of the American people. Voters told Obama NO we don't agree with you and Obama said fuck y'all.
I don't disagree, Reagan, Bush, Obama all screwed over Americans siding with illegals. Under Reagan's amnesty the damn border was supposed to be secured but of course lying Democrats reneged on that part of the deal. And 10 years later studies proved Reagan's amnesty was a net loss for our economy.
Well, that is not true Darkwind, we do have problems with our immigration policy and it extends from when Immigration reform was passed under President Reagan. President Reagan's plan had border enforcement and very harsh penalties for American Companies hiring illegals....with his Amnesty.Here is your problem..
Boy, I'm really failing to get this conversation going on other threads, so I'll try to start one.
From what I've seen the main takeaway from this act is that most illegals will not be deported if they have not been here long enough; they have to pass criminal and security background checks, they have to pay taxes and prove their eligibility to stay.
Seems like much ado about not that much to me.
I also heard him challenge the GOP Congress to pass a bill that will override this act. So, as I asked on another thread -- don't we all agree that our immigration system is fucked up? Don't we want to fix something that is important and fucked up?
And why, precisely, wouldn't the GOP jump at this opportunity to pass a bill and put it on Obama's desk?
What am I missing?
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We DON'T agree that the immigration system is fucked up.
The system is just fine.
It is the people administering the program that are fucked up. I think we should press criminal charges against them Myself.
If we simply enforced our existing immigration laws, there would be no problem at all.
