Do you agree with your president?

[Anathema]

Thanks for your input and for being civil!

No problem. I just really hope the renewable/DG system does not outpace our safety and operational standards, pitting our workers in danger.

 

[OnePercenter]

I respect the President. I agree with his agenda to "make America great again" and I understand that the GDP is up, the DOW has increased by 50%, Black unemployment is at a historic low and we are at relative peace in the world. What's not to like?

We still have working class poor, 7.6 million Americans work more than one job to make ends meet, and most employers pay a "market share" price to their employees continuing to propagate income inequality. The middle class are now considered poor with credit.

 

[BULLDOG]

It won't work because the capability isn't there to meet our power needs.

That's why we use multiple sources of power now and in the future. Gasoline is useless to meet our need for electricity, so using your logic, it won't work because the capacity isn't there to meet our needs.

The power grid wasn't designed to handle 300 million electric cars plugged in at night.

Just a few years ago, there was nothing set up to handle millions of computers connected to the internet. Things change to meet the need. You didn't already know that? Nobody expects the complete change to electric cars to happen tomorrow, but it can start today.

 

[fncceo]

are you going to tell me that I don't have a constitutional right

To use solar power? Sure, go nuts. You don't have the right to force everyone to use it.

 

[fncceo]

we could stop buying oil from muslims

Don't be racist.

 

[fncceo]

Just a few years ago, there was nothing set up to handle millions of computers connected to the internet.

People were willing to pay for the Internet because it gave them something they never had before. Mostly porn and cat videos, but they still paid for it.

Our entire existing power infrastructure is based on our ability to generate that amount of power needed on demand, less when it's not needed, more when it is. Put too much power into the system and it shuts down, draw too much power out, it shuts down.

To move to a power grid where the primary source is solar / wind will be very expensive and take decades to implement.

If you're going to start charging people more to pay for a new infrastructure to give them what they've been getting all of their lives for less ... let's just say you're going to have a fight on your hand.

 

[Roudy]

Wind power won’t work because the wind doesn’t blow all the time, according to Trump.

Seriously???





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What utter hypocricy! I find it very telling that on one hand leaders of the Left regularly promote wind power, but find the placement of wind turbines anywhere near where they live or work an abomination. In other words, it's great, but "not in my back yard"!

Anybody that has driven by a wind farm can tell you that they are one of the saddest unnatural things you will observe, let alone that they destroy the nature, kill birds that regularly fly into them, sound horrible, and obviously do not belong there.

 

[fncceo]

kills birds that regularly fly into them,

The only upside I can see

 

[Roudy]

kills birds that regularly fly into them,

The only upside I can see

It's pretty funny, they pretend to be environmentalists, then promote the placement of thousands of behemoth, industrial looking windturbines across the landscape and natural wildlife habitat. But when you ask them where they should be located, "not in my fuckin' backyard, hell no!" Ya gotta laugh.

 

[Anathema]

Our entire existing power infrastructure is based on our ability to generate that amount of power needed on demand, less when it's not needed, more when it is. Put too much power into the system and it shuts down, draw too much power out, it shuts down.

To move to a power grid where the primary source is solar / wind will be very expensive and take decades to implement.

If you're going to start charging people more to pay for a new infrastructure to give them what they've been getting all of their lives for less ... let's just say you're going to have a fight on your hand.

It’s not just thst. Our electric infrastructure was designed to flow one way - from generation to transmission to distribution system to customer. It was not designed to have point generation added to the middle of the transmission system or at customer locations.

A highly optimistic prediction to upgrade the infrastructure is 5-10 years, yet we’re increasingly the renewable load by hundreds of percent every year. That’s a problem.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Wind power is great.
But, President Trump is correct.
The wind doesn't blow all ow the time.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Remember the 2000 California power outage crisis.
They didn't build enough power plants.
Look at the mass power outage in Venezuela.
They can't afford to maintain their power grid.

 

[captkaos]

It won't work because the capability isn't there to meet our power needs.

That's why we use multiple sources of power now and in the future. Gasoline is useless to meet our need for electricity, so using your logic, it won't work because the capacity isn't there to meet our needs.

Bullfrog, You are showing some stupid ….Again ! Nobody uses gasoline to create electricity! Most electric turbines are steam powered which are fueled by...……. Coal, Hydroelectric power generation, and Nuclear Power are other sources of electric power. Gasoline is for Your car and lawn mower. Can we move on to 4th grade now???

 

[Correll]

Wind power won’t work because the wind doesn’t blow all the time, according to Trump.

Seriously???





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That is certainly part of the problem with wind.

 

[Anathema]

Bullfrog, You are showing some stupid ….Again ! Nobody uses gasoline to create electricity! Most electric turbines are steam powered which are fueled by...……. Coal, Hydroelectric power generation, and Nuclear Power are other sources of electric power. Gasoline is for Your car and lawn mower.

Actually one of the most common generation fuels right now is Natural Gas, so you’re both wrong.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It won't work because the capability isn't there to meet our power needs.

That's why we use multiple sources of power now and in the future. Gasoline is useless to meet our need for electricity, so using your logic, it won't work because the capacity isn't there to meet our needs.

The power grid wasn't designed to handle 300 million electric cars plugged in at night.

Just a few years ago, there was nothing set up to handle millions of computers connected to the internet. Things change to meet the need. You didn't already know that? Nobody expects the complete change to electric cars to happen tomorrow, but it can start today.

Your trying to fucking compare the two, are you insane or just playing ignorant on the subject?

God damn ever hear of black outs or power lines down because of global warming/ ice storms?

.

 

[BULLDOG]

Just a few years ago, there was nothing set up to handle millions of computers connected to the internet.

People were willing to pay for the Internet because it gave them something they never had before. Mostly porn and cat videos, but they still paid for it.

Our entire existing power infrastructure is based on our ability to generate that amount of power needed on demand, less when it's not needed, more when it is. Put too much power into the system and it shuts down, draw too much power out, it shuts down.

To move to a power grid where the primary source is solar / wind will be very expensive and take decades to implement.

If you're going to start charging people more to pay for a new infrastructure to give them what they've been getting all of their lives for less ... let's just say you're going to have a fight on your hand.

Most people didn't have cars when we started paying more in taxes to build roads, but the country invested because it knew the payback would be massive. Same with the railroads and bringing lights to rural farms. We were paying for telephone lines to be strung across the country long before most people ever heard of a telephone. We enjoy all of those things, as well as better medicines and that computer you are reading this on because we, as a country, invested our tax money to help startup industries before the market would support them. The payback from cheaper and more dependable energy sources will improve our lives at least as much as those other things. Nobody is saying our current energy sources will be eliminated before the new sources are able to take over, so what is your problem? Why don't you want things to get better? You don't believe in investing for our future

 

[BULLDOG]

It won't work because the capability isn't there to meet our power needs.

That's why we use multiple sources of power now and in the future. Gasoline is useless to meet our need for electricity, so using your logic, it won't work because the capacity isn't there to meet our needs.

Bullfrog, You are showing some stupid ….Again ! Nobody uses gasoline to create electricity! Most electric turbines are steam powered which are fueled by...……. Coal, Hydroelectric power generation, and Nuclear Power are other sources of electric power. Gasoline is for Your car and lawn mower. Can we move on to 4th grade now???

That's kinda my point dumb ass. We need multiple sources now. No reason we can't add sources to that list, and remove the ones that aren't efficient enough to keep up as the newer ones improve. We know the newer ones will greatly improve as usage increases.

 

[JimBowie1958]

It won't work because the capability isn't there to meet our power needs.

And the tech to store that power is not here yet either.

Once storage is achieved, we can generate power however we want and store it till we need it.

The Sun's corona is the key.

 

[toobfreak]

Wind power won’t work because the wind doesn’t blow all the time, according to Trump. Seriously??

Does the wind blow ALL the time where you live? I have a windy day here RARELY. We can go weeks and months without a windy day.