Doubts About Donald Trump's Own Medical Records Emerge

[kaz]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

They're waiting until Oct. to drop the bomb about him fathering his own grandson.

Jared can't get it up.

You learned something in those nine years in high school, didn't you?

 

[kaz]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

They're waiting until Oct. to drop the bomb about him fathering his own grandson.

Jared can't get it up.

It's interesting that you take a creepy quote by Trump ... and you're able to out creepy him ...

 

[Juan de Fuca]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

They're waiting until Oct. to drop the bomb about him fathering his own grandson.

Jared can't get it up.

It's interesting that you take a creepy quote by Trump ... and you're able to out creepy him ...

I didn't get him to pose for that nor did I give him what to say. That's all on him.

 

[Faun]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

So do you call for Hillary to release her updated medical records?

What updated medical records?

 

[Correll]

No, she has the whole of the media who volunteer to do whatever it takes to support her and her lies.

Oh yes...the liberal mainstream media who has the gall to report what Trump says

Truth is, any other candidate who said one tenth of what Trump has said would have been driven from the race. The media is soft on Trump

They lie about what he actually says.

Because they know, like you do, that the Truth is not on your side.

The Media has completely betrayed their responsibility as the "4th estate".

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

THey lie about what Trump says, and report HIllary's nonsensical smears as though they were news.

Trump spouts his idiocy for all to see. The press has an OBLIGATION to report on exactly what Trump is



X

If that is so true, then why do they lie?

Their actions show that they disagree with you.

At some level they know that his message is a winning message otherwise they would be reporting on what he actually says.

 

[Correll]

What about 368#? Tell me in WORDS, cause I look at it and I don't care.


And calling PUtin a thug doesn't explain why we should fight a global thermonuclear war over Estonia or the Ukraine.

You have to care because I'm trying to clear your brain. Aside from that you don't have clue what you are talking about except your propaganda promoting Putin thug. If you didn't care what in the world you're still here.
Putin thug is not a nice guy. He is thug but not stupid to use nuclear arm bc that will be the end of his luxurious life. Tell Putin thug not to mess with America.

I asked you what your point was from post 368.

You response was incoherent partisan blather, as far as I can tell.


Please try again.


The Cold War is over. Let us stop fucking with Russia.

My post #368 is to inform you of your uneducated post.
You do not even understand that labor here in America is very high. That alone you don't have a clue


What did I tell you about trump deporting illegals? He has not mentioned it for a while...... I'm really sorry to disappoint you.
It's been reported that Trump is backing off from deporting millions of illegal. Today his new campaign manager Conway that deporting illegals is TBD........ Meaning. TO BE DISREGARD....Read the link.
Next banning Muslims will also become TBD. What a disappointment to Trump supporters.....

Trump campaign manager: A deportation force TBD
Trump campaign manager: A deportation force TBD - CNNPolitics.com

1. Germany does not have low wages and yet has twice the manufacturing employment percentage that we have.

2. I can support the candidate that promises to deport the illegals, Or I can support the one that promises to give them amnesty.

1. What is Germany has anything to do with Trump deportation plan?

2. Well......... Sorry to tell you that your buddy Trump is softening his stance on force deportation. TBD........ To Be Determine or To Be Disregard.
This is the only way he can gain Hispanic votes but that's too late because they know that Trump is a con man.
Or maybe they give will offer them amnesty. And that will piss off millions of white Americans.

His posted platform is the same as it ever was.

 

[Correll]

Exactly, the "fellow migrants" are a part of the huge problem, the exact portion unknown or unreported.

And a desperate illegal, who is hundreds of miles from home and who is given a choice between moving forward to America or being stranded in the shit hole that is Mexico, unless she gives it up to the guide,

By most modern definitions, that still constitutes rape.

Your desire to paint all the women who are so victimized as willing prostitutes is pretty disgusting.

Seal the border, put an end to this atrocity.


And prevent those rapists from entering this country.

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

LOL

Your point is as dead this time as it was last time I saw you pull out those articles since they 1) don't reveal hpw many cases are rape, as opposed to prostitution; 2) don't reveal how many of the rapists are Mexican; and 3) don't reveal how many, if any, of the rapists who are Mexican cross the border into the U.S..

80% are raped. You can quibble about what percentage is forcible rape and what percentage is rape by coercion, and what percentage is willing prostitution and what percentage of the rapists are Mexican as opposed to another Central American nation.

It is an atrocity that YOU and YOURS want to keep open, letting these women be raped and importing rapists into this country, because it advances the lib agenda.


BUILD THE WALL.

 

[Correll]

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

1. Your willful blindness to the evidence is not my failure.

2. I really hope that we are not knowing letting rapists in from other parts of the world. Can you support that claim?

 

[Correll]

Calling some one gay as an insult is an homophobic act.

Cool story bro. Nobody here called you gay as an insult.

I've seen this before with lefties.

You are so used to misusing words, that you forget they have real definitions.


YOur words.


"You only think that because you're gay."



Obvious to anyone that isn't an liar or a moron that you were using an accusation of homosexuality as a slur.


But' it's cool cause your a good little lefty.

Hypocrite.

Do you set off metal detectors? Because your skull is clearly made from osmium.

Says the moron who doesn't realize that using an accusation of homosexuality as a slur is an homophobic act.

 

[Correll]

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

Immigrants have a lower rate of offending than native-born citizens.
The greatest threat is from Americans.

That is bullshit.

There is no way that people young enough and desperate enough to illegally enter a nation commit crime at a lower rate than native born citizens.

 

[Faun]

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

LOL

Your point is as dead this time as it was last time I saw you pull out those articles since they 1) don't reveal hpw many cases are rape, as opposed to prostitution; 2) don't reveal how many of the rapists are Mexican; and 3) don't reveal how many, if any, of the rapists who are Mexican cross the border into the U.S..

80% are raped. You can quibble about what percentage is forcible rape and what percentage is rape by coercion, and what percentage is willing prostitution and what percentage of the rapists are Mexican as opposed to another Central American nation.

It is an atrocity that YOU and YOURS want to keep open, letting these women be raped and importing rapists into this country, because it advances the lib agenda.


BUILD THE WALL.

First of all, the wall is not getting built even if by some miracle, Crazy Donald becomes president. Congress hasn't funded the construction of that wall for 10 years now and they're not going to change their position for Crazy Donald, who they don't like to begin with.

But to that report, many, if not most, are not rape. A woman who chooses to offer her body in exchange for services is a prostitute, not a rape victim.

And again, the point you ignored.... building that wall would leave them stuck in the countries they are fleeing, a predicament worse than rape, according to you. Why do you want to do that to those women?

 

[Faun]

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

1. Your willful blindness to the evidence is not my failure.

2. I really hope that we are not knowing letting rapists in from other parts of the world. Can you support that claim?

I would hope not too but the reality is that rapists exist in every corner of the globe. It's inconceivable that none ever travel to the U.S..

And there's no willful blindness on my part. There are delusions on yours since that article does not reveal if any of the rapists cross the border.

 

[rightwinger]

Oh yes...the liberal mainstream media who has the gall to report what Trump says

Truth is, any other candidate who said one tenth of what Trump has said would have been driven from the race. The media is soft on Trump

They lie about what he actually says.

Because they know, like you do, that the Truth is not on your side.

The Media has completely betrayed their responsibility as the "4th estate".

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

THey lie about what Trump says, and report HIllary's nonsensical smears as though they were news.

Trump spouts his idiocy for all to see. The press has an OBLIGATION to report on exactly what Trump is



X

If that is so true, then why do they lie?

Their actions show that they disagree with you.

At some level they know that his message is a winning message otherwise they would be reporting on what he actually says.

Nobody has lied about Trump

It is Trump who fabricates when challenged on his statements

I, I never mocked a disabled man.....I never even met him
I have no idea who David Duke is
I actually saw TV coverage of thousands of Muslims celebrating in NJ

 

[Correll]

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

LOL

Your point is as dead this time as it was last time I saw you pull out those articles since they 1) don't reveal hpw many cases are rape, as opposed to prostitution; 2) don't reveal how many of the rapists are Mexican; and 3) don't reveal how many, if any, of the rapists who are Mexican cross the border into the U.S..

80% are raped. You can quibble about what percentage is forcible rape and what percentage is rape by coercion, and what percentage is willing prostitution and what percentage of the rapists are Mexican as opposed to another Central American nation.

It is an atrocity that YOU and YOURS want to keep open, letting these women be raped and importing rapists into this country, because it advances the lib agenda.


BUILD THE WALL.

First of all, the wall is not getting built even if by some miracle, Crazy Donald becomes president. Congress hasn't funded the construction of that wall for 10 years now and they're not going to change their position for Crazy Donald, who they don't like to begin with.

But to that report, many, if not most, are not rape. A woman who chooses to offer her body in exchange for services is a prostitute, not a rape victim.

And again, the point you ignored.... building that wall would leave them stuck in the countries they are fleeing, a predicament worse than rape, according to you. Why do you want to do that to those women?

The implication of the article, with it's listing of the practice of using sex as a bribe, implies that it is a significant percentage of the rapes.


There is NOTHING that indicates it is a majority of the rapes. That was spin made up by you to minimize the massive atrocity that is our southern border.



And I did not ignore that point. I stated that the safety of my fellow American citizens take priority.

This is not something I am doing to them. Mexico is a sovereign nation that is responsible for it's own actions.

 

[Correll]

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

1. Your willful blindness to the evidence is not my failure.

2. I really hope that we are not knowing letting rapists in from other parts of the world. Can you support that claim?

I would hope not too but the reality is that rapists exist in every corner of the globe. It's inconceivable that none ever travel to the U.S..

And there's no willful blindness on my part. There are delusions on yours since that article does not reveal if any of the rapists cross the border.

By actively working to protect the Status Quo, you are supporting the continued mass rape of these women and allowing these rapists to enter the US unvetted and unchecked.

The article discussed their fellow migrants are a significant portion of the rapists. Considering the MASSIVE scale of the rape problem, that means a LOT of fucking rapists are entering the country.

The GUIDES, are also entering the nation, of course, even if they are not staying. I am against large scale and repeated visits to the US by rapists also.

 

[Correll]

They lie about what he actually says.

Because they know, like you do, that the Truth is not on your side.

The Media has completely betrayed their responsibility as the "4th estate".

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

THey lie about what Trump says, and report HIllary's nonsensical smears as though they were news.

Trump spouts his idiocy for all to see. The press has an OBLIGATION to report on exactly what Trump is



X

If that is so true, then why do they lie?

Their actions show that they disagree with you.

At some level they know that his message is a winning message otherwise they would be reporting on what he actually says.

Nobody has lied about Trump

...J

It was reported that he said all mexicans are rapists. Which is a blatant lie.

When you lie, you admit that you know that the truth is not on your side, ie that you are in the wrong.


Why do you support policies that you have to lie in order to defend?

 

[Faun]

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

LOL

Your point is as dead this time as it was last time I saw you pull out those articles since they 1) don't reveal hpw many cases are rape, as opposed to prostitution; 2) don't reveal how many of the rapists are Mexican; and 3) don't reveal how many, if any, of the rapists who are Mexican cross the border into the U.S..

80% are raped. You can quibble about what percentage is forcible rape and what percentage is rape by coercion, and what percentage is willing prostitution and what percentage of the rapists are Mexican as opposed to another Central American nation.

It is an atrocity that YOU and YOURS want to keep open, letting these women be raped and importing rapists into this country, because it advances the lib agenda.


BUILD THE WALL.

First of all, the wall is not getting built even if by some miracle, Crazy Donald becomes president. Congress hasn't funded the construction of that wall for 10 years now and they're not going to change their position for Crazy Donald, who they don't like to begin with.

But to that report, many, if not most, are not rape. A woman who chooses to offer her body in exchange for services is a prostitute, not a rape victim.

And again, the point you ignored.... building that wall would leave them stuck in the countries they are fleeing, a predicament worse than rape, according to you. Why do you want to do that to those women?

The implication of the article, with it's listing of the practice of using sex as a bribe, implies that it is a significant percentage of the rapes.


There is NOTHING that indicates it is a majority of the rapes. That was spin made up by you to minimize the massive atrocity that is our southern border.



And I did not ignore that point. I stated that the safety of my fellow American citizens take priority.

This is not something I am doing to them. Mexico is a sovereign nation that is responsible for it's own actions.

I never said it was the majority of cases. I said it could be the majority of cases given it's so common. And leaving those women stranded and helpless in their home countries would be something you're responsible for by building the wall you promote, squashing their escape from sexual assault in the countries they are fleeing. That's why it's laughable that you pretend to give a shit about those girls.

 

[Faun]

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

1. Your willful blindness to the evidence is not my failure.

2. I really hope that we are not knowing letting rapists in from other parts of the world. Can you support that claim?

I would hope not too but the reality is that rapists exist in every corner of the globe. It's inconceivable that none ever travel to the U.S..

And there's no willful blindness on my part. There are delusions on yours since that article does not reveal if any of the rapists cross the border.

By actively working to protect the Status Quo, you are supporting the continued mass rape of these women and allowing these rapists to enter the US unvetted and unchecked.

The article discussed their fellow migrants are a significant portion of the rapists. Considering the MASSIVE scale of the rape problem, that means a LOT of fucking rapists are entering the country.

The GUIDES, are also entering the nation, of course, even if they are not staying. I am against large scale and repeated visits to the US by rapists also.

And their "fellow migrants" come from all over Central America. How many are Mexican? The article doesn't say. How many committed rape as opposed to accepting sex as a form of payment? The article doesn't say. How many, if any, rapists cross the border? The article doesn't say.

You are making up shit you want to promote based on those articles even though they don't corroborate the shit you are selling.

 

[rightwinger]

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

THey lie about what Trump says, and report HIllary's nonsensical smears as though they were news.

Trump spouts his idiocy for all to see. The press has an OBLIGATION to report on exactly what Trump is



X

If that is so true, then why do they lie?

Their actions show that they disagree with you.

At some level they know that his message is a winning message otherwise they would be reporting on what he actually says.

Nobody has lied about Trump

...J

It was reported that he said all mexicans are rapists. Which is a blatant lie.

When you lie, you admit that you know that the truth is not on your side, ie that you are in the wrong.


Why do you support policies that you have to lie in order to defend?

What was reported was the exact quote from Trump...with video

Trump admitted that "some" Mexicans may be OK. "Some" is not the same as "most"
Trump fear mongered to turn the public against Mexicans

 

[Correll]

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

LOL

Your point is as dead this time as it was last time I saw you pull out those articles since they 1) don't reveal hpw many cases are rape, as opposed to prostitution; 2) don't reveal how many of the rapists are Mexican; and 3) don't reveal how many, if any, of the rapists who are Mexican cross the border into the U.S..

80% are raped. You can quibble about what percentage is forcible rape and what percentage is rape by coercion, and what percentage is willing prostitution and what percentage of the rapists are Mexican as opposed to another Central American nation.

It is an atrocity that YOU and YOURS want to keep open, letting these women be raped and importing rapists into this country, because it advances the lib agenda.


BUILD THE WALL.

First of all, the wall is not getting built even if by some miracle, Crazy Donald becomes president. Congress hasn't funded the construction of that wall for 10 years now and they're not going to change their position for Crazy Donald, who they don't like to begin with.

But to that report, many, if not most, are not rape. A woman who chooses to offer her body in exchange for services is a prostitute, not a rape victim.

And again, the point you ignored.... building that wall would leave them stuck in the countries they are fleeing, a predicament worse than rape, according to you. Why do you want to do that to those women?

The implication of the article, with it's listing of the practice of using sex as a bribe, implies that it is a significant percentage of the rapes.


There is NOTHING that indicates it is a majority of the rapes. That was spin made up by you to minimize the massive atrocity that is our southern border.



And I did not ignore that point. I stated that the safety of my fellow American citizens take priority.

This is not something I am doing to them. Mexico is a sovereign nation that is responsible for it's own actions.

I never said it was the majority of cases. I said it could be the majority of cases given it's so common. And leaving those women stranded and helpless in their home countries would be something you're responsible for by building the wall you promote, squashing their escape from sexual assault in the countries they are fleeing. That's why it's laughable that you pretend to give a shit about those girls.

If we were to assume that HALF of the rapes were completely willing prostitution by women willing to do that, that would mean that "only" 40% of the women were raped.

And that is still a horror that we do not want to release on our female citizens.



The protection of OUR women and children comes first.


Mexico and mexicans are not children who's lives we are responsible for.