Doubts About Donald Trump's Own Medical Records Emerge

[Faun]

Let's not forget, Trump put out an ad talking about illegals crossing into the U.S. .... only it turned out the video was actually people crossing the border into Melilla...

Pants on fire: Donald Trump's first TV ad shows migrants 'at the southern border,' but they're actually in Morocco

Once again you fail to address anything I said.


My points stand.




"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast."


Drugs, crime and criminals are obviously coming over the border.


Do you think he was lying about talking to border guards? Do you think that the border guards were lying?


Sure, "some" illegals are coming here to build a better life. But that doesn't mean that the others are not coming across with them.


There is not reason to let people keep coming into the nation completely unvetted.


We can keep out people with long criminal records, including those with records of murder and rape.

Don't you want to keep out people with records of murder and rape?


Trump does. HIllary does not.

LOLOL

The article you posted destroyed your point.

It showed the majority of rapes were committed by folks not coming into America and that many, if not most, were not even rape but prostitution by poor women selling their bodies as payment for assistance to get to America.

Could you post the bits where it supposedly said that, cause I didn't see either.

About who's committing the rapes...

"Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion."

For the most part, the ones who are seeking to come to America would be the "fellow migrants," and the articles do not determine how many are Mexican as opposed to any one of the other Central American countries from where the migrants originate.

About how common the cases are actually prostiution...

"The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency."

Exactly, the "fellow migrants" are a part of the huge problem, the exact portion unknown or unreported.

And a desperate illegal, who is hundreds of miles from home and who is given a choice between moving forward to America or being stranded in the shit hole that is Mexico, unless she gives it up to the guide,

By most modern definitions, that still constitutes rape.

Your desire to paint all the women who are so victimized as willing prostitutes is pretty disgusting.

Seal the border, put an end to this atrocity.


And prevent those rapists from entering this country.

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

 

[rightwinger]

Wow, over 500 posts about Trump's health by the anti American fascist wing of the demorat party. You guys are grasping at straws now, desperate for something negative to say about Trump. So far, Trump doesn't need to be surrounded by people to keep him from falling down - people to snap their fingers when he gets in a zombie trance like bill clinton's wife does.

Hillary does not maintain a team of people who jump out of the woodwork after she has spoken to explain what she "really means"

No, she has the whole of the media who volunteer to do whatever it takes to support her and her lies.

Oh yes...the liberal mainstream media who has the gall to report what Trump says

Truth is, any other candidate who said one tenth of what Trump has said would have been driven from the race. The media is soft on Trump

They lie about what he actually says.

Because they know, like you do, that the Truth is not on your side.

The Media has completely betrayed their responsibility as the "4th estate".

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

 

[Faun]

We've been over this already. You couldn't show those were Mexicans coming into America. The article says is that some folks, many presumably Mexican, are raping foreign women who are traveling through Mexico to reach the U.S.. It says nothing about the rapists coming here. The rapes were being committed primarily by, "criminal gangs, people traffickers, other migrants or corrupt officials." And their other fellow migrants are not only Mexican but from various Central American countries."

And then you have to consider many of the cases are actually prostitution...

"There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over."

"That kind of arrangement is so commonplace, that a word exists to describe it. 'Cuerpomátic,' or, 'cuerpomático,' using the body like an ATM machine."​

IF, the rapists are NOT travelling with the women, then that means that Mexico is a hellhole of rape. As I posted above. In the post you hit the reply button for.


If Mexico is such a hell hole that a group of women walking across it will be 80% raped, then we do not want ANY mexican culture being imported to this nation.

If the men travelling with the women are the ones raping, then the rapists are coming into the country.



And your empathy for women being forced to use sex as bribes, is noted.

Did you read the articile you posted? There are gangs and even some Mecican officials who are raping women in Mexico illegally, knowing it's unlikely the women will report the heinous crime because they're there illegally.

Are you trying to paint all of Mexico as a "hellhole of rape" because you're a bigot or because Crazy Donald needs his balls cleaned?

We've been over this already. You couldn't show those were Mexicans coming into America. The article says is that some folks, many presumably Mexican, are raping foreign women who are traveling through Mexico to reach the U.S.. It says nothing about the rapists coming here. The rapes were being committed primarily by, "criminal gangs, people traffickers, other migrants or corrupt officials." And their other fellow migrants are not only Mexican but from various Central American countries."

And then you have to consider many of the cases are actually prostitution...

"There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over."

"That kind of arrangement is so commonplace, that a word exists to describe it. 'Cuerpomátic,' or, 'cuerpomático,' using the body like an ATM machine."​

IF, the rapists are NOT travelling with the women, then that means that Mexico is a hellhole of rape. As I posted above. In the post you hit the reply button for.


If Mexico is such a hell hole that a group of women walking across it will be 80% raped, then we do not want ANY mexican culture being imported to this nation.

If the men travelling with the women are the ones raping, then the rapists are coming into the country.



And your empathy for women being forced to use sex as bribes, is noted.

Did you read the articile you posted? There are gangs and even some Mecican officials who are raping women in Mexico illegally, knowing it's unlikely the women will report the heinous crime because they're there illegally.

Are you trying to paint all of Mexico as a "hellhole of rape" because you're a bigot or because Crazy Donald needs his balls cleaned?

I did read the article.


It is unclear exactly which groups of Mexicans are committing what portion(s) the vast number of rapes.

Considering the scale of the traffic, the number rapes these women are suffering may be more than ALL THE OTHER RAPES in the United States combined.


Your characterizing women pressured into giving sex in return for passage, as willing prostitution is self serving and heartless.

Your hope that the rapists are all just local Mexicans who are happy to rape those passing though is unsupported accept by your optimism.



Forgive me if I want to err on the side of caution.

First and foremost, you only want to error on the side of Crazy Donald.

Your sycophancy aside, who said the girls are forced to sell their bodies for help crossing Mexico? That's their choice. They're too poor and have little or nothing else of value, so get to America, many of them use their bodies as payment.

That's your evidence Crazy Donald was accurate in painting illegal Mexican immigrants as rapists.

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

 

[Correll]

Once again you fail to address anything I said.


My points stand.




"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast."


Drugs, crime and criminals are obviously coming over the border.


Do you think he was lying about talking to border guards? Do you think that the border guards were lying?


Sure, "some" illegals are coming here to build a better life. But that doesn't mean that the others are not coming across with them.


There is not reason to let people keep coming into the nation completely unvetted.


We can keep out people with long criminal records, including those with records of murder and rape.

Don't you want to keep out people with records of murder and rape?


Trump does. HIllary does not.

LOLOL

The article you posted destroyed your point.

It showed the majority of rapes were committed by folks not coming into America and that many, if not most, were not even rape but prostitution by poor women selling their bodies as payment for assistance to get to America.

Could you post the bits where it supposedly said that, cause I didn't see either.

About who's committing the rapes...

"Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion."

For the most part, the ones who are seeking to come to America would be the "fellow migrants," and the articles do not determine how many are Mexican as opposed to any one of the other Central American countries from where the migrants originate.

About how common the cases are actually prostiution...

"The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency."

Exactly, the "fellow migrants" are a part of the huge problem, the exact portion unknown or unreported.

And a desperate illegal, who is hundreds of miles from home and who is given a choice between moving forward to America or being stranded in the shit hole that is Mexico, unless she gives it up to the guide,

By most modern definitions, that still constitutes rape.

Your desire to paint all the women who are so victimized as willing prostitutes is pretty disgusting.

Seal the border, put an end to this atrocity.


And prevent those rapists from entering this country.

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

 

[Correll]

Wow, over 500 posts about Trump's health by the anti American fascist wing of the demorat party. You guys are grasping at straws now, desperate for something negative to say about Trump. So far, Trump doesn't need to be surrounded by people to keep him from falling down - people to snap their fingers when he gets in a zombie trance like bill clinton's wife does.

Hillary does not maintain a team of people who jump out of the woodwork after she has spoken to explain what she "really means"

No, she has the whole of the media who volunteer to do whatever it takes to support her and her lies.

Oh yes...the liberal mainstream media who has the gall to report what Trump says

Truth is, any other candidate who said one tenth of what Trump has said would have been driven from the race. The media is soft on Trump

They lie about what he actually says.

Because they know, like you do, that the Truth is not on your side.

The Media has completely betrayed their responsibility as the "4th estate".

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

THey lie about what Trump says, and report HIllary's nonsensical smears as though they were news.

 

[Correll]

IF, the rapists are NOT travelling with the women, then that means that Mexico is a hellhole of rape. As I posted above. In the post you hit the reply button for.


If Mexico is such a hell hole that a group of women walking across it will be 80% raped, then we do not want ANY mexican culture being imported to this nation.

If the men travelling with the women are the ones raping, then the rapists are coming into the country.



And your empathy for women being forced to use sex as bribes, is noted.

Did you read the articile you posted? There are gangs and even some Mecican officials who are raping women in Mexico illegally, knowing it's unlikely the women will report the heinous crime because they're there illegally.

Are you trying to paint all of Mexico as a "hellhole of rape" because you're a bigot or because Crazy Donald needs his balls cleaned?

IF, the rapists are NOT travelling with the women, then that means that Mexico is a hellhole of rape. As I posted above. In the post you hit the reply button for.


If Mexico is such a hell hole that a group of women walking across it will be 80% raped, then we do not want ANY mexican culture being imported to this nation.

If the men travelling with the women are the ones raping, then the rapists are coming into the country.



And your empathy for women being forced to use sex as bribes, is noted.

Did you read the articile you posted? There are gangs and even some Mecican officials who are raping women in Mexico illegally, knowing it's unlikely the women will report the heinous crime because they're there illegally.

Are you trying to paint all of Mexico as a "hellhole of rape" because you're a bigot or because Crazy Donald needs his balls cleaned?

I did read the article.


It is unclear exactly which groups of Mexicans are committing what portion(s) the vast number of rapes.

Considering the scale of the traffic, the number rapes these women are suffering may be more than ALL THE OTHER RAPES in the United States combined.


Your characterizing women pressured into giving sex in return for passage, as willing prostitution is self serving and heartless.

Your hope that the rapists are all just local Mexicans who are happy to rape those passing though is unsupported accept by your optimism.



Forgive me if I want to err on the side of caution.

First and foremost, you only want to error on the side of Crazy Donald.

Your sycophancy aside, who said the girls are forced to sell their bodies for help crossing Mexico? That's their choice. They're too poor and have little or nothing else of value, so get to America, many of them use their bodies as payment.

That's your evidence Crazy Donald was accurate in painting illegal Mexican immigrants as rapists.

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

The article you posted destroyed your point.

It showed the majority of rapes were committed by folks not coming into America and that many, if not most, were not even rape but prostitution by poor women selling their bodies as payment for assistance to get to America.

Could you post the bits where it supposedly said that, cause I didn't see either.

About who's committing the rapes...

"Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion."

For the most part, the ones who are seeking to come to America would be the "fellow migrants," and the articles do not determine how many are Mexican as opposed to any one of the other Central American countries from where the migrants originate.

About how common the cases are actually prostiution...

"The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency."

Exactly, the "fellow migrants" are a part of the huge problem, the exact portion unknown or unreported.

And a desperate illegal, who is hundreds of miles from home and who is given a choice between moving forward to America or being stranded in the shit hole that is Mexico, unless she gives it up to the guide,

By most modern definitions, that still constitutes rape.

Your desire to paint all the women who are so victimized as willing prostitutes is pretty disgusting.

Seal the border, put an end to this atrocity.


And prevent those rapists from entering this country.

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

 

[Faun]

Did you read the articile you posted? There are gangs and even some Mecican officials who are raping women in Mexico illegally, knowing it's unlikely the women will report the heinous crime because they're there illegally.

Are you trying to paint all of Mexico as a "hellhole of rape" because you're a bigot or because Crazy Donald needs his balls cleaned?

Did you read the articile you posted? There are gangs and even some Mecican officials who are raping women in Mexico illegally, knowing it's unlikely the women will report the heinous crime because they're there illegally.

Are you trying to paint all of Mexico as a "hellhole of rape" because you're a bigot or because Crazy Donald needs his balls cleaned?

I did read the article.


It is unclear exactly which groups of Mexicans are committing what portion(s) the vast number of rapes.

Considering the scale of the traffic, the number rapes these women are suffering may be more than ALL THE OTHER RAPES in the United States combined.


Your characterizing women pressured into giving sex in return for passage, as willing prostitution is self serving and heartless.

Your hope that the rapists are all just local Mexicans who are happy to rape those passing though is unsupported accept by your optimism.



Forgive me if I want to err on the side of caution.

First and foremost, you only want to error on the side of Crazy Donald.

Your sycophancy aside, who said the girls are forced to sell their bodies for help crossing Mexico? That's their choice. They're too poor and have little or nothing else of value, so get to America, many of them use their bodies as payment.

That's your evidence Crazy Donald was accurate in painting illegal Mexican immigrants as rapists.

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

 

[Correll]

Could you post the bits where it supposedly said that, cause I didn't see either.

About who's committing the rapes...

"Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion."

For the most part, the ones who are seeking to come to America would be the "fellow migrants," and the articles do not determine how many are Mexican as opposed to any one of the other Central American countries from where the migrants originate.

About how common the cases are actually prostiution...

"The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency."

Exactly, the "fellow migrants" are a part of the huge problem, the exact portion unknown or unreported.

And a desperate illegal, who is hundreds of miles from home and who is given a choice between moving forward to America or being stranded in the shit hole that is Mexico, unless she gives it up to the guide,

By most modern definitions, that still constitutes rape.

Your desire to paint all the women who are so victimized as willing prostitutes is pretty disgusting.

Seal the border, put an end to this atrocity.


And prevent those rapists from entering this country.

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

 

[Correll]

I did read the article.


It is unclear exactly which groups of Mexicans are committing what portion(s) the vast number of rapes.

Considering the scale of the traffic, the number rapes these women are suffering may be more than ALL THE OTHER RAPES in the United States combined.


Your characterizing women pressured into giving sex in return for passage, as willing prostitution is self serving and heartless.

Your hope that the rapists are all just local Mexicans who are happy to rape those passing though is unsupported accept by your optimism.



Forgive me if I want to err on the side of caution.

First and foremost, you only want to error on the side of Crazy Donald.

Your sycophancy aside, who said the girls are forced to sell their bodies for help crossing Mexico? That's their choice. They're too poor and have little or nothing else of value, so get to America, many of them use their bodies as payment.

That's your evidence Crazy Donald was accurate in painting illegal Mexican immigrants as rapists.

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary does not maintain a team of people who jump out of the woodwork after she has spoken to explain what she "really means"

No, she has the whole of the media who volunteer to do whatever it takes to support her and her lies.

Oh yes...the liberal mainstream media who has the gall to report what Trump says

Truth is, any other candidate who said one tenth of what Trump has said would have been driven from the race. The media is soft on Trump

They lie about what he actually says.

Because they know, like you do, that the Truth is not on your side.

The Media has completely betrayed their responsibility as the "4th estate".

The media has been worn down by Trumps unsupported lies, boasts, half truths and outright distortions

They have stopped doing their job

THey lie about what Trump says, and report HIllary's nonsensical smears as though they were news.

Trump spouts his idiocy for all to see. The press has an OBLIGATION to report on exactly what Trump is



X

 

[charwin95]

Read my post #368 again and again to wake you up. Don't just look at it.
And tell Putin thug not mess with America.

What about 368#? Tell me in WORDS, cause I look at it and I don't care.


And calling PUtin a thug doesn't explain why we should fight a global thermonuclear war over Estonia or the Ukraine.

You have to care because I'm trying to clear your brain. Aside from that you don't have clue what you are talking about except your propaganda promoting Putin thug. If you didn't care what in the world you're still here.
Putin thug is not a nice guy. He is thug but not stupid to use nuclear arm bc that will be the end of his luxurious life. Tell Putin thug not to mess with America.

I asked you what your point was from post 368.

You response was incoherent partisan blather, as far as I can tell.


Please try again.


The Cold War is over. Let us stop fucking with Russia.

My post #368 is to inform you of your uneducated post.
You do not even understand that labor here in America is very high. That alone you don't have a clue


What did I tell you about trump deporting illegals? He has not mentioned it for a while...... I'm really sorry to disappoint you.
It's been reported that Trump is backing off from deporting millions of illegal. Today his new campaign manager Conway that deporting illegals is TBD........ Meaning. TO BE DISREGARD....Read the link.
Next banning Muslims will also become TBD. What a disappointment to Trump supporters.....

Trump campaign manager: A deportation force TBD
Trump campaign manager: A deportation force TBD - CNNPolitics.com

1. Germany does not have low wages and yet has twice the manufacturing employment percentage that we have.

2. I can support the candidate that promises to deport the illegals, Or I can support the one that promises to give them amnesty.

1. What is Germany has anything to do with Trump deportation plan?

2. Well......... Sorry to tell you that your buddy Trump is softening his stance on force deportation. TBD........ To Be Determine or To Be Disregard.
This is the only way he can gain Hispanic votes but that's too late because they know that Trump is a con man.
Or maybe they give will offer them amnesty. And that will piss off millions of white Americans.

 

[Faun]

About who's committing the rapes...

"Rape can be perpetrated by anyone along the way, including guides, fellow migrants, bandits or government officials, according to Fusion."

For the most part, the ones who are seeking to come to America would be the "fellow migrants," and the articles do not determine how many are Mexican as opposed to any one of the other Central American countries from where the migrants originate.

About how common the cases are actually prostiution...

"The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency."

Exactly, the "fellow migrants" are a part of the huge problem, the exact portion unknown or unreported.

And a desperate illegal, who is hundreds of miles from home and who is given a choice between moving forward to America or being stranded in the shit hole that is Mexico, unless she gives it up to the guide,

By most modern definitions, that still constitutes rape.

Your desire to paint all the women who are so victimized as willing prostitutes is pretty disgusting.

Seal the border, put an end to this atrocity.


And prevent those rapists from entering this country.

There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexican immigrants as rapists. The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape. Meanwhile, to protect Crazy Donald, you portray Mexico as a hellhole of rape.

And all the while, the articles do not support the idiocy that Mexico is sending us their rapists.

The article makes no such portrayal.

THat is your confirmation bias trying to find excuses for you to support the continued mass rape of illegal females crossing the border.

And as the vast majority of illegals crossing the border are Mexicans, the most reasonable assumption is that the vast majority of the rapists are Mexicans.

Not that it really matters to the women they rape whether on the trail or in America.

I made two claims in that post based on those articles; which you claim are not supported by the articles.

Me: "There's no telling how many of the "fellow migrants" are Mexican. The article says the come from various Central American countries."

Article: This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

Me: "The article portrays many, if not most of the cases to about prostitution, not rape."

Article: “There are cases where women offer their bodies in exchange for being able to cross over.”

The arrangement is so common there’s a slang term for it—”cuerpomátic,” or “cuerpomático” (an apparent wordplay on Credomatic, a Central American credit-card processing firm), which means to use one’s body — or cuerpo — as a source of currency.​

Next time, read your own sources.

1. That the majority of unaccompanied minors are from Central American nations does not mean the that majority of migrants or the majority of rapists do.

And regardless my point stands. The difference of a rapist from Mexico and one from El Salvador is hardly relevant to their victims.

2. "There are cases" is hardly support for your smearing the vast number of rape victims as prostitutes.

LOL

Your point is as dead this time as it was last time I saw you pull out those articles since they 1) don't reveal hpw many cases are rape, as opposed to prostitution; 2) don't reveal how many of the rapists are Mexican; and 3) don't reveal how many, if any, of the rapists who are Mexican cross the border into the U.S..

 

[Faun]

First and foremost, you only want to error on the side of Crazy Donald.

Your sycophancy aside, who said the girls are forced to sell their bodies for help crossing Mexico? That's their choice. They're too poor and have little or nothing else of value, so get to America, many of them use their bodies as payment.

That's your evidence Crazy Donald was accurate in painting illegal Mexican immigrants as rapists.

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

 

[SwimExpert]

Calling some one gay as an insult is an homophobic act.

Cool story bro. Nobody here called you gay as an insult.

I've seen this before with lefties.

You are so used to misusing words, that you forget they have real definitions.


YOur words.


"You only think that because you're gay."



Obvious to anyone that isn't an liar or a moron that you were using an accusation of homosexuality as a slur.


But' it's cool cause your a good little lefty.

Hypocrite.

Do you set off metal detectors? Because your skull is clearly made from osmium.

 

[idb]

Your view of the Third World as a stronghold of Female rights is amusingly self serving.


The article said that some of the rapes were bribes. You are the one trying to spin that to imply that the victims are all or even mostly willing prostitutes.


THat's classic blaming of the victim.




So much for the War on Women.


Seal the border.

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

Immigrants have a lower rate of offending than native-born citizens.
The greatest threat is from Americans.

 

[idb]

Those girls are choosing to put themselves in that situation. Who forced them? They know the risks. That's obvious since many of them use birth control.

They choose to go snyway. And again, many, if not most, are using their body to pay their way.

Who forced them?

Who knows what terrible choices they must face if submitting themselves to likely rape is the best one available?


It is amusing to see how much of a bleeding heart you lefties have when the answer might slow your agenda a mite.

By that same token, you bleeding heart righties could make it easier then for them to come to America so they don't have to make that dangerous trek across Mexico to sneak into the U.S.. Increase the number of entry visas and offer them a clear path to citizenship so that every third world suffering person on the planet can come into the U.S.

Instead, you support Crazy Donald who wants to erect a wall to keep them out. Which of course, leaves them stranded in their home countries, which as you just pointed out ... is a fate worse than rape.

My first and primary concern is for the safety of my fellow citizens.

Lets keep out all the rapist travelling along with these rape victims to protect American women and children.

Rapists come from all over the world. We're not banning everyone from coming here. Meanwhile, you failed miserably trying to show Mexicans who sneak in across the border are rapists.

Immigrants have a lower rate of offending than native-born citizens.
The greatest threat is from Americans.

Maybe immigrants should be deported for their own safety.

 

[hazlnut]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

They're waiting until Oct. to drop the bomb about him fathering his own grandson.

Jared can't get it up.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

They're waiting until Oct. to drop the bomb about him fathering his own grandson.

Jared can't get it up.

 

[kaz]

All the brouhaha over Hillary Clinton's health has overflowed to a December 2015 letter that Donald Trump used to validate his good health. On closer inspection, Newsweek Magazine has noted quite a few discrepancies and because of that new calls for Donald to present evidence of his health are being called. The letter in question seems at best contrived and at worst fake. More to come on this subject for sure, I can't but wonder why Donald Trump would fake something like this unless there is something in his own record he would fear.

"A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.

It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name,freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?"

read:Donald Trump tests positive for everything, according to his own doctor

So do you call for Hillary to release her updated medical records?