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[charwin95]

Anyone who looks into this issues knows that the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants.


It is very unlikely that a young population, ie illegals, commits crime at a lower rate than a population that includes tens of millions of elderly AND tens of millions of children.


The numbers you are citing are not credible.

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.

Actually you really look silly.
1. You con man will not deport 12 millions illegals.
2. Bring back manufacturing jobs. I already told you this is a joke. Well known independent economists and republican blasted your con man economic plan as disastrous.

Make America Have a Recession Again

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3. Tell Putin thug to stop murdering civilians in Syria and stop supplying arms to Iran. And tell your lover boy to stop messing with US.

 

[playtime]

and why would they think someone who sends his jobs overseas is going to do anything for them on the issue of jobs.

that's just delusional.

What is crazy is the pretense that a man's behavior in a job will be identical to his behavior in another job, even if the job is DIFFERENT.


As a CEO, his job was to make money for his investors.


As a President his job will be to serve the interests of America and Americans.


Your claim otherwise is moronic nonsense.

trump has been around yes men all his freakin' life. & he's insane.

Nothing in your post actually addressed anything in my post.

My points thus stand.


What is crazy is the pretense that a man's behavior in a job will be identical to his behavior in another job, even if the job is DIFFERENT.


As a CEO, his job was to make money for his investors.


As a President his job will be to serve the interests of America and Americans.


Any claim otherwise is moronic nonsense

And by Americans, trumpsters mean angry white males.

This is for you, you race baiting asshole.

Second of all, your claim is utter bullshit and you know it.


Trump's Trade and Immigration policies would DISPROPORTIONATELY benefit blacks as they are over represented in the Working Class.

lol.............. tsk tsk, such rudeness.....

 

[idb]

Anyone who looks into this issues knows that the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants.


It is very unlikely that a young population, ie illegals, commits crime at a lower rate than a population that includes tens of millions of elderly AND tens of millions of children.


The numbers you are citing are not credible.

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

 

[ABikerSailor]

How can Trump be tough on China, when he owes them money PERSONALLY, as well as has most of his products (as well as his daughters) manufactured over there?

BTW.................anyone remember when Mittens promised to return jobs to the US while he was campaigning, yet during the campaign, sold one of his companies to China? Remember Sensata?

At Chinese factory run by Bain subsidiary, workers favor economics over politics - CNN.com

 

[Correll]

You are a coward unable to admit that your enemy has even ONE ability.

enemy? YOU? you are giving yourself WAY too much credit.

We were talking about Trump's ability to get along with other people, that you EXPLICITLY agreed with but are to cowardly to EXPLICITLY STATE.

NOt me, you ass.

Your little pretend misunderstanding there was nothing but a dodge to avoid the point that you cannot refute, combined with a little gotcha aimed at me.

Even on this little thing, you libs have to lie and be assholes.



Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs, and STOP fucking with Russia.

you have a real problem with people who disagree with you & hallucinate a lot don't you?

I have a problem with people who are very rude, such as you have been.

i have a problem with people who are so poorly educated they refuse to see their own lives getting screwed when it's right in front of them.

reminds me of the animal house quote:
'thank -you sir, may i have another?'.

YOur inability to respect someone that disagrees with your political opinion is in keeping with the standard lib closed mind.

And very different from me having a problem with very rude people, like you.

 

[Correll]

Trump is blowing sunshine up their ass. He can no more bring back manufacturing jobs than be a good husband

and why would they think someone who sends his jobs overseas is going to do anything for them on the issue of jobs.

that's just delusional.

What is crazy is the pretense that a man's behavior in a job will be identical to his behavior in another job, even if the job is DIFFERENT.


As a CEO, his job was to make money for his investors.


As a President his job will be to serve the interests of America and Americans.


Your claim otherwise is moronic nonsense.

trump has been around yes men all his freakin' life. & he's insane.

Nothing in your post actually addressed anything in my post.

My points thus stand.


What is crazy is the pretense that a man's behavior in a job will be identical to his behavior in another job, even if the job is DIFFERENT.


As a CEO, his job was to make money for his investors.


As a President his job will be to serve the interests of America and Americans.


Any claim otherwise is moronic nonsense

bullshit. which amerka & which amerikans?

My point was clear. Misspelling America with a K is not a challenge, or even a real response.

My point stands, as all you did was spew spin.



What is crazy is the pretense that a man's behavior in a job will be identical to his behavior in another job, even if the job is DIFFERENT.


As a CEO, his job was to make money for his investors.


As a President his job will be to serve the interests of America and Americans.


Any claim otherwise is moronic nonsense

 

[Correll]

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Your alleged complaints about his past behavior is not a challenge to his stated policy platform.


Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs and


Your enmity with Putin is senseless. THe Cold War is over.


Stop fucking with Russia.

 

[Correll]

How can Trump be tough on China, when he owes them money PERSONALLY, as well as has most of his products (as well as his daughters) manufactured over there?

BTW.................anyone remember when Mittens promised to return jobs to the US while he was campaigning, yet during the campaign, sold one of his companies to China? Remember Sensata?

At Chinese factory run by Bain subsidiary, workers favor economics over politics - CNN.com

Very easily.

 

[Correll]

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.

Actually you really look silly.
1. You con man will not deport 12 millions illegals.
2. Bring back manufacturing jobs. I already told you this is a joke. Well known independent economists and republican blasted your con man economic plan as disastrous.

Make America Have a Recession Again

Clinton far better for economy than Trump, say business economists

3. Tell Putin thug to stop murdering civilians in Syria and stop supplying arms to Iran. And tell your lover boy to stop messing with US.

1. Your unsupported opinion is noted and dismissed. Deport the illegals.

2. THe Free Traders have been making their arguments for decades. The results have NOT been as predicted. Time to change policy.

3. Your raving is noted. Stop fucking with Russia.

4. Fuck you.

 

[Faun]

It's true.

Anyone who looks into this issues knows that the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants.


It is very unlikely that a young population, ie illegals, commits crime at a lower rate than a population that includes tens of millions of elderly AND tens of millions of children.


The numbers you are citing are not credible.

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

I did not call you a jerk for any substantial comments you may have made, but for your childish and insulting spin.

And I will raise that to "you are an asshole".


And I note that you are pretending the people do not, indeed, do not HAVE to make judgement calls based on incomplete information ALL THE TIME, you dishonest prick.


AND finally,

Oh, noooo.... now I'm an asshole!

So insists the poster who just tacitly admitted Crazy Donald, while running for president of the United States, made the bigoted call that Mexicans coming into the U.S. are rapists based on "incomplete information."

And what does that data say about Mexicans committing rape in tne U.S.?

It says in 2010, there were about 120,788 illegal alien inmates, identified as Mexicans, incarcerated in the U.S.. About 12% of all illegal aliens were incarcerated for sex related crimes. Even if you assume 100% of those sex related crimes were rape, that means about 14,495 Mexicans here illegally were in jail for rape.

Estimates are there were about 6.5 million Mexicans in the U.S. illegally in 2010.

Which means that only 2 out of every 1,000 Mexicans (0.2%) who were here illegally, were incarcerated for rape.

But there is another category of inmates who were unknown aliens. Those who are suspected of being illegal aliens but ICE lacked documentation to determine their immigration status.

Even if you consider 100% of them to be in the U.S. illegally, then there are about 240,707 illegal alien Mexicans locked up with about 28,885 (12%) in jail on sex related offenses. Again, if you assume 100% if those offenses were rape, you end up with about 4 out of every 1,000 (0.4%) Mexicans here illegally were incarcerated for rape.

Meaning with the exception of "some," Crazy Donald called Mexicans, "rapists," when in fact, the number is likely between 0.2% and 0.4%.

Which is what led organizations like Macy's, NBC, Univision, and NASCAR to dump Trump like the steaming pile of bigoted shit that he is.

 

[playtime]

enemy? YOU? you are giving yourself WAY too much credit.

We were talking about Trump's ability to get along with other people, that you EXPLICITLY agreed with but are to cowardly to EXPLICITLY STATE.

NOt me, you ass.

Your little pretend misunderstanding there was nothing but a dodge to avoid the point that you cannot refute, combined with a little gotcha aimed at me.

Even on this little thing, you libs have to lie and be assholes.



Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs, and STOP fucking with Russia.

you have a real problem with people who disagree with you & hallucinate a lot don't you?

I have a problem with people who are very rude, such as you have been.

i have a problem with people who are so poorly educated they refuse to see their own lives getting screwed when it's right in front of them.

reminds me of the animal house quote:
'thank -you sir, may i have another?'.

YOur inability to respect someone that disagrees with your political opinion is in keeping with the standard lib closed mind.

And very different from me having a problem with very rude people, like you.

lol, that's not true. I just don't respect nutjobs.

 

[Correll]

Anyone who looks into this issues knows that the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants.


It is very unlikely that a young population, ie illegals, commits crime at a lower rate than a population that includes tens of millions of elderly AND tens of millions of children.


The numbers you are citing are not credible.

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

I did not call you a jerk for any substantial comments you may have made, but for your childish and insulting spin.

And I will raise that to "you are an asshole".


And I note that you are pretending the people do not, indeed, do not HAVE to make judgement calls based on incomplete information ALL THE TIME, you dishonest prick.


AND finally,

Oh, noooo.... now I'm an asshole!

So insists the poster who just tacitly admitted Crazy Donald, while running for president of the United States, made the bigoted call that Mexicans coming into the U.S. are rapists based on "incomplete information."

And what does that data say about Mexicans committing rape in tne U.S.?

It says in 2010, there were about 120,788 illegal alien inmates, identified as Mexicans, incarcerated in the U.S.. About 12% of all illegal aliens were incarcerated for sex related crimes. Even if you assume 100% of those sex related crimes were rape, that means about 14,495 Mexicans here illegally were in jail for rape.

Estimates are there were about 6.5 million Mexicans in the U.S. illegally in 2010.

Which means that only 2 out of every 1,000 Mexicans (0.2%) who were here illegally, were incarcerated for rape.

But there is another category of inmates who were unknown aliens. Those who are suspected of being illegal aliens but ICE lacked documentation to determine their immigration status.

Even if you consider 100% of them to be in the U.S. illegally, then there are about 240,707 illegal alien Mexicans locked up with about 28,885 (12%) in jail on sex related offenses. Again, if you assume 100% if those offenses were rape, you end up with about 4 out of every 1,000 (0.4%) Mexicans here illegally were incarcerated for rape.

Meaning with the exception of "some," Crazy Donald called Mexicans, "rapists," when in fact, the number is likely between 0.2% and 0.4%.

Which is what led organizations like Macy's, NBC, Univision, and NASCAR to dump Trump like the steaming pile of bigoted shit that he is.

1. Yes, you are behaving like an asshole. So you are an asshole.

2. There is nothing bigoted about Trump's stance on Illegals and/or crime associated with them.

THis is for you, you prick.

3. I made a point about it being normal for people to make judgements based on incomplete information. You response was to play the Race Card. As that is nothing but a collection of Logical Fallacies, your reply is invalid and my point stands. Trump's judgement was completely reasonable and supported by the limited information available.

4. Your "analysis" has too many guesses piled on top of guesses and switching categories to be anything but garbage.

5. For you again, for you calling him bigoted again.

 

[Correll]

We were talking about Trump's ability to get along with other people, that you EXPLICITLY agreed with but are to cowardly to EXPLICITLY STATE.

NOt me, you ass.

Your little pretend misunderstanding there was nothing but a dodge to avoid the point that you cannot refute, combined with a little gotcha aimed at me.

Even on this little thing, you libs have to lie and be assholes.



Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs, and STOP fucking with Russia.

you have a real problem with people who disagree with you & hallucinate a lot don't you?

I have a problem with people who are very rude, such as you have been.

i have a problem with people who are so poorly educated they refuse to see their own lives getting screwed when it's right in front of them.

reminds me of the animal house quote:
'thank -you sir, may i have another?'.

YOur inability to respect someone that disagrees with your political opinion is in keeping with the standard lib closed mind.

And very different from me having a problem with very rude people, like you.

lol, that's not true. I just don't respect nutjobs.

You implicitly agreed that Trump can get along with other people.

But you are such a partisan whore that you cannot bring yourself to explicitly state it.

And you are a rude asshole with nothing relevant to add to the discussion.

Fuck you.

 

[idb]

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Your alleged complaints about his past behavior is not a challenge to his stated policy platform.


Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs and


Your enmity with Putin is senseless. THe Cold War is over.


Stop fucking with Russia.

You don't believe that you can judge a person's true future intentions by their past actions or statements?

 

[Correll]

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Your alleged complaints about his past behavior is not a challenge to his stated policy platform.


Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs and


Your enmity with Putin is senseless. THe Cold War is over.


Stop fucking with Russia.

You don't believe that you can judge a person's true future intentions by their past actions or statements?

Depends.

If the situation is completely different, and the motivation is completely different, and the expectations of those whom the person is answerable to is completely different,

than assuming that they will behave in exactly the same fashion is insane.

 

[idb]

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Your alleged complaints about his past behavior is not a challenge to his stated policy platform.


Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs and


Your enmity with Putin is senseless. THe Cold War is over.


Stop fucking with Russia.

You don't believe that you can judge a person's true future intentions by their past actions or statements?

Depends.

If the situation is completely different, and the motivation is completely different, and the expectations of those whom the person is answerable to is completely different,

than assuming that they will behave in exactly the same fashion is insane.

I'll translate if I may...

"It depends on so many factors such as;

• Is he/she Republican?
• Is he/she Donald Trump?"

 

[Faun]

Then what was Crazy Donald basing his claim on?

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

I did not call you a jerk for any substantial comments you may have made, but for your childish and insulting spin.

And I will raise that to "you are an asshole".


And I note that you are pretending the people do not, indeed, do not HAVE to make judgement calls based on incomplete information ALL THE TIME, you dishonest prick.


AND finally,

Oh, noooo.... now I'm an asshole!

So insists the poster who just tacitly admitted Crazy Donald, while running for president of the United States, made the bigoted call that Mexicans coming into the U.S. are rapists based on "incomplete information."

And what does that data say about Mexicans committing rape in tne U.S.?

It says in 2010, there were about 120,788 illegal alien inmates, identified as Mexicans, incarcerated in the U.S.. About 12% of all illegal aliens were incarcerated for sex related crimes. Even if you assume 100% of those sex related crimes were rape, that means about 14,495 Mexicans here illegally were in jail for rape.

Estimates are there were about 6.5 million Mexicans in the U.S. illegally in 2010.

Which means that only 2 out of every 1,000 Mexicans (0.2%) who were here illegally, were incarcerated for rape.

But there is another category of inmates who were unknown aliens. Those who are suspected of being illegal aliens but ICE lacked documentation to determine their immigration status.

Even if you consider 100% of them to be in the U.S. illegally, then there are about 240,707 illegal alien Mexicans locked up with about 28,885 (12%) in jail on sex related offenses. Again, if you assume 100% if those offenses were rape, you end up with about 4 out of every 1,000 (0.4%) Mexicans here illegally were incarcerated for rape.

Meaning with the exception of "some," Crazy Donald called Mexicans, "rapists," when in fact, the number is likely between 0.2% and 0.4%.

Which is what led organizations like Macy's, NBC, Univision, and NASCAR to dump Trump like the steaming pile of bigoted shit that he is.

1. Yes, you are behaving like an asshole. So you are an asshole.

2. There is nothing bigoted about Trump's stance on Illegals and/or crime associated with them.

THis is for you, you prick.

3. I made a point about it being normal for people to make judgements based on incomplete information. You response was to play the Race Card. As that is nothing but a collection of Logical Fallacies, your reply is invalid and my point stands. Trump's judgement was completely reasonable and supported by the limited information available.

4. Your "analysis" has too many guesses piled on top of guesses and switching categories to be anything but garbage.

5. For you again, for you calling him bigoted again.

I may be an asshole, but I can be nice when I feel like it. Unlike you, you're an idiot; and from that, there is no recovery.

Case in point, you repeatedly claim I "pulled the race card," when in fact, I never called Crazy Donald racist.

And interestingly enough, I relied on the same study you pointed me to, which reads that approximately 0.2% to 0.4% of Mexicans in this country illegally have been convicted of rape.

You failed in your attempt to dismiss the study's numbers based on what you cite as me guessing. But you fail since my guesses were to include everyone possible in that study as being a rapist. My "guesses" were to count every unidentified alien as an illegal alien and every count of a sexual offense as rape. That resulted in a maximum rate of 0.4%.

And here's where your hypocrisy shines so bright ... while I reference that study to show at most, 0.4% of Mexicans here illegally have been convicted of rape, you criticize me judgement...

... at the same time, you laud Crazy Donald's judgement using that same study when he concluded that all but "some" Mexicans here illegally are rapists, even though the actual number is less than 4 for every 1000.

 

[Faun]

First of all, your spin is just you being a jerk.

Second of all, Donald Trump's site, connects to this article, with multiple links to supporting studies and documents.

NBC Covers Up Evidence of Immigration Crime Wave



THe various stats are incomplete, as is discussed in the article, but the general shape and scale of the problem is discernible, if one is not a dishonest partisan.

Oh, noooo..... a brain-dead conservative calls me a jerk for hoisting him by his own petard. However shall I go on?

Brain-dead conservative ... aside from your joke of linking to breitbart.com, that article relies heavily on the government data you said is unreliable. According to you, "the government is not effectively tracking crime by illegals, or immigrants."

So why the fuck are you fluffing Crazy Donald by saying he's using said ineffective government studies as proof to back his bigoted statement?

It's a tough job to defend Trump's statements...he's just as likely to walk them back them back tomorrow.
And then you just look silly...

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs

Uh-oh! Looks like Crazy Donald has flip-flopped on yet another issue...

Trump says he's open to 'softening' immigration laws in 'Hannity' town hall

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said Tuesday he is open to “softening” laws dealing with illegal immigrants in a “Hannity” town hall with Fox News’ Sean Hannity.

His remarks were the latest sign he is considering softening a position he has taken since the onset of his campaign.

Hannity asked Trump if he would change current parts of the law to accommodate law-abiding citizens or longtime residents who have raised children in the U.S.

"There could certainly be a softening because we're not looking to hurt people," Trump answered. "We want people -- we have some great people in this country."

"We have some great, great people in this country. But we’re going to follow the laws of this country and what people don’t realize -- we have very, very strong laws,” he told Hannity.

Throughout his presidential campaign, Trump has reiterated that if he is elected in November, he would deport the 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally.

He also said he wanted to follow the laws on immigration policy instead of creating new ones.

“We want to follow the laws, you know, we have very strong laws in this country. And you know Bush, and even Obama, sends people back. Now, we can be more aggressive on that but we want to follow the laws," he told Hannity. "If you start going around trying to make new laws in this country it’s a process that’s brutal. We want to follow the laws of the country, and if we follow the laws we can do what we have to do.”​

All this time he's been campaigning on deporting all the illegal aliens -- now he says he'll follow the same laws as Obama.

What now, brain-dead conservative?

 

[Correll]

Deport the illegals, bring back manufacturing jobs and STOP fucking with Russia.


My "job" of defending that, is a lot LESS "tough" than YOUR job of trying to spin any of that as unreasonable or wrong.

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Your alleged complaints about his past behavior is not a challenge to his stated policy platform.


Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs and


Your enmity with Putin is senseless. THe Cold War is over.


Stop fucking with Russia.

You don't believe that you can judge a person's true future intentions by their past actions or statements?

Depends.

If the situation is completely different, and the motivation is completely different, and the expectations of those whom the person is answerable to is completely different,

than assuming that they will behave in exactly the same fashion is insane.

I'll translate if I may...

"It depends on so many factors such as;

• Is he/she Republican?
• Is he/she Donald Trump?"

You take a man, put him in a different job, with different bosses and different expectations and different motivations and different level of observation, when he is different,

and you expect the exact same behavior as in his last job?


Your above dismissal of my point was because you could not substantially challenge my point in any meaningful way.

Your position is absurd.

 

[rightwinger]

He employs 'illegals', has his merchandise manufactured overseas and cosys up to Putin...even advocating Russian propaganda points.
Who's doing the spinning?

Your alleged complaints about his past behavior is not a challenge to his stated policy platform.


Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs and


Your enmity with Putin is senseless. THe Cold War is over.


Stop fucking with Russia.

You don't believe that you can judge a person's true future intentions by their past actions or statements?

Depends.

If the situation is completely different, and the motivation is completely different, and the expectations of those whom the person is answerable to is completely different,

than assuming that they will behave in exactly the same fashion is insane.

I'll translate if I may...

"It depends on so many factors such as;

• Is he/she Republican?
• Is he/she Donald Trump?"

You take a man, put him in a different job, with different bosses and different expectations and different motivations and different level of observation, when he is different,

and you expect the exact same behavior as in his last job?


Your above dismissal of my point was because you could not substantially challenge my point in any meaningful way.

Your position is absurd.