FBI Raid On Trump's Mar-A-Lago Had No Valid Legal Basis

[struth]

It has been reported that room which they were held was unlocked...

Of course it was, they had been there reviewing the documents for months prior to this. Trump was cooperating He wasn't trying to keep them out of it.

 

[struth]

They subpoenaed Trumps security tapes in late June and found security breaches with the government documents he took illegally.... It's one of the reasons they got the search approved by the judge, is my understanding.

Is that what Rachael Maddow told you?

 

[Billy_Bob]

There are now five major newspapers showing the Raid was illegal. The damn is breaking and the whistleblowers inside the FBI have outed the criminal conspiracy to get Trump AGAIN..... SO far 18 FBI agents have contacted congressmen to give their observations of this criminal conduct.

When we retake the house there is going to be a purge of these criminals.

 

[CowboyTed]

The lock was placed and SECURED. The video evidence show that it was secured, and that the FBI had to CUT THE LOCK OFF to get access to the room. Do you idiots ever think about what your spewing before posting?

Was it always under lock and key...

Can you tell us who had a key? Was there a sign in and out to get the key?

What else was in that room and who needed access to it...

There was also other documents in Trump's office, who had access to that office...

Can you please give us the security clearance of all the people who had access to that room?

We would also like all the finical records of these people to see if any of them have been compromised?

Any of these missing we can consider it another violation...

 

[Billy_Bob]

For what crime?

THats the problem... They were in search of a crime.. Any Crime... That is why they took Attorney -Client privileged documents, some 7 cases of them knowing they were not government records. This is the fallacy of a GENERAL WARRANT which is unconstitutional, according to SCOTUS, under the law.

The DOJ stepped in this huge pile of shit, and they are in over their heads today.

 

[Care4all]

LOL, I can't believe you spun this illegal raid to be a fund drive for Trump!

More likely is that the Biden Admin alerted the media to this raid to ensure Trump got plenty of negative news coverage.

You are missing the facts! Try finding them Jim, the truth is out there. Trump himself is the only one that made this in to a media circus. The FBI and all involved in the government, were silent.

Trump only does things, to play to his advantage.... And he's using his loyal followers to play his same ole same ole, his modus operandi in every illegal thing he has done, call it a Witch Hunt and play the victim, and call on his flock for mayhem.

The boy who cried wolf was outed long ago, for this....

 

[easyt65]

They were not brandishing arms, the FBI were in plain clothes. The guy in the picture bearing a rifle was Trump's Secret Service.

I stopped reading your post at this point, as your claim has so thoroughly been debunked:

Nothing says 'discreet' and 'nothing to see here' like lights flashing and FBI agents - the same ones under investigation by Durham for their parts in the previous failed Hillary/Obama Russian Collusion coup attempt/ scandal - wearing body armor marked 'FBI', carrying assault rifles - the kind the Democrats want to take away from citizens- parked / standing outside the front the gates of Trump's home for the world to see.

So, as you can personally see,you are either SERIOUSLY misinformed and want to amend your statement, OR you are intentionally, knowingly spreading lies / misinformation....

....which we both know can't be the case, which is why I am offering you the opportunity to correct that last statement.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Other Presidents didn't take boxes and boxes of documents home with them...

Bull shit.... Obama took some 37 boxes that have never been given to the Archives. Obama digitized them and gave them a copy but never gave them the documents. You going to raid his home too?

Or Bill Clinton who took some 27 boxes of documents and furniture from the white house. The furniture was ultimately returned but the documents were not until he placed them in his presidential library. You going to raid Bill and Hillary's house too?

You guys really need to get some facts before spewing your BS..

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Trump never declassified anything....there are no, zip, zero records showing he did.

And he can't declassify or reclassify top secret SCI documents without the agencies involved being notified. There is a legal process to do it.

He did no such thing, ever! Nothing he had, was declassified by trump....all classified documents and emails were still marked classified in the government system... Trump signed off with on nothing, to reclassify them.

What law says that the President has to follow a process and specifically, preserve written proof that they notified or otherwise recorded the declassification process you refer to?

I don't think it exists.

Don't you think that Biden can declassify information at will? That he could whisper secrets into Macron's ear if he wanted to?

As head of the Executive Branch, utmost authority for classification lies with the President, and he is not obliged to follow any procedure but his own.

 

[Care4all]

Of course it was, they had been there reviewing the documents for months prior to this. Trump was cooperating He wasn't trying to keep them out of it.

Duh. Trump WAS NOT cooperating, he was lying and stalling. He was approached a year and 3 months ago, to return the documents.

His lawyer obstructed justice by swearing the FBI got all classified top secret documents in June. That's the reason the obstruction charge in the warrant.

 

[Nostra]

Other Presidents didn't take boxes and boxes of documents home with them...

It like an ex employee complaining that other ex employees weren't arrested for stealing stuff... By he stole stuff..

Barry Hussein took 30 million docs with him.

 

[Nostra]

The PRA requires the President to ensure preservation of records documenting the performance of his official duties (44 U.S.C. § 2203(a)), provides for the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) to take custody and control of the records (44 U.S.C. § 2203(g)), and sets forth a schedule of staged public access to such records (44 U.S.C. § 2204).

So the NARA has custody of the records, but the former president is given access to them. If the former president takes custody away from NARA, then its a violation, unless NARA releases them.

So Barry Hussein needs to give back the 30 million he took, right?

 

[struth]

Duh. Trump WAS NOT cooperating, he was lying and stalling. He was approached a year and 3 months ago, to return the documents.

His lawyer obstructed justice by swearing the FBI got all classified too secret documents in June. That's the reason obstruction charge in the warrant.

Well we know that's completely false. We know he gave them 15 boxes, we know he allowed them complete access to review whatever else they wanted.

It's obvious you all are completely desperate at this point trying to justify this political raid...otherwise you wouldn't have to lie like this

 

[Nostra]

They subpoenaed Trumps security tapes in late June and found security breaches with the government documents he took illegally.... It's one of the reasons they got the search approved by the judge, is my understanding.

Link to this leak?

 

[dudmuck]

So Barry Hussein needs to give back the 30 million he took, right?

Obama didn’t keep millions of classified White House documents

Amid mounting revelations surrounding the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, a counternarrative pushed online — including by Trump himself — posits that Obama similarly kept possession of White House documents after his term of office.

apnews.com

no need to give them back, because he didnt take them.

 

[Nostra]

It has been reported that room which they were held was unlocked...

Link to this leak?

 

[Care4all]

Bull shit.... Obama took some 37 boxes that have never been given to the Archives. Obama digitized them and gave them a copy but never gave them the documents. You going to raid his home too?

Or Bill Clinton who took some 27 boxes of documents and furniture from the white house. The furniture was ultimately returned but the documents were not until he placed them in his presidential library. You going to raid Bill and Hillary's house too?

You guys really need to get some facts before spewing your BS..

What ever Obama wanted personally, by LAW, the president has to work it out and get the National Archives aporoval, so the National Archives can have a copy of the record.

Trump did no such thing, ever! He just stole them, with NARA not having copies for our government records.

National archives had custody of all Obama records.

 

[Nostra]

Duh. Trump WAS NOT cooperating, he was lying and stalling. He was approached a year and 3 months ago, to return the documents.

His lawyer obstructed justice by swearing the FBI got all classified too secret documents in June. That's the reason obstruction charge in the warrant.

Link to these leaks?

 

[struth]

Link to this leak?

Here's a good outline of the timetable leading up to the political raid: Feds served subpoena, seized documents from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago in June: report

As you can see Trump and his lawyers were fully cooperating with the NARA, and had a wonderful relationship...that is until Xiden and Garland decided to use this as a chance for a political raid

 

[struth]

What ever Obama wanted personally, by LAW, the president has to work it out and get the National Archives aporoval, so the National Archives can have a copy of the record.

Trump did no such thing, ever! He just stole them, with NARA not having copies for our government records.

National archives had custody if all Obama records.

That is of course, another lie...https://nypost.com/2022/08/11/feds-seized-documents-from-trumps-mar-a-lago-in-june-report/

As the timetable shows, Trump was fully cooperating with the NARA and had a good relationship with them