Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!!!!

[PoliticalChic]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

Regarding the topic...

This guy was a genius:
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To understand the intent of self-government, and the principles on which such a government can be sustained, one need look no further than the Declaration of Independence...including the paragraph Jefferson wanted to include, but was overrules:

"[King George] has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation hither … And he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which hehad deprived them, by murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another."

Today I'm gonna stick to what the Founders, the Declaration of Independence, classical liberals, conservatives, promise Americans.


Rights.

Sorry. I will stick to the topic.

I was just heading off the inevitable communist accusations about Jefferson's apparent cognitive dissonance, as you can see from Playtime's response.

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Nay....only I have to 'stick with the topic.'


Feel free.

 

[jc456]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us. We also need to expose them!! shout it, the left is trying to ruin the country!!! there is plenty of money for you and don't need the government.

 

[PoliticalChic]

just to remind you that the founding fathers didn't think ALL men were created equal.... if they did, then they wouldn't have owned other humans.

That's, of course, the indoctrination provided in your government school education..

Glad you gave me the opportunity to provide the truth.



The Founders were realistic in calculating what they wanted versus what they could get.

“The prudence of the statesman may be described as the combination of attachment to principle along with a profound understanding of circumstances.” Steven Hayward.

Had the Constitution’s Framers not accommodated the existence of slavery, the document would not have been written, and the nation would have been stillborn.” George Will

Harry Jaffa “If [the Founders] had attempted to secure all the rights of all men they would have ended in no rights secured for any men.” And had Lincoln not been willing to accept the continuation of slavery where it was- while attempting to confine it there, and thereby put it “in the course of ultimate extinction”- he could not have won the presidential office from which he steered the nation through the war that saved the Union. Jaffa wrote, “Negroes have voting rights and serve on juries today owning in large measure to the fact that Lincoln in the 1850s disavowed any intention to make them voters or jurors.”
George Will, “The Conservative Sensibility,” p.13.



I hope you're taking notes.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us.

Here, in America, there is no perennial class of 'the rich.'

"...economic mobility. About 60 percent of the households that were in the lowest income quintile in 1999 were in a higher quintile ten years later. During the same decade, almost 40 percent of the richest households fell to a lower quintile. This is a nation where you can rise or fall. It is a nation where you can climb the economic ladder based not on who you are born to, or what class you are born into, but based on your talents, your passion, your perseverance, and the content of your character." https://imprimisarchives.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_05_Imprimis.pdf

 

[jc456]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us.

Here, in America, there is no perennial class of 'the rich.'

"...economic mobility. About 60 percent of the households that were in the lowest income quintile in 1999 were in a higher quintile ten years later. During the same decade, almost 40 percent of the richest households fell to a lower quintile. This is a nation where you can rise or fall. It is a nation where you can climb the economic ladder based not on who you are born to, or what class you are born into, but based on your talents, your passion, your perseverance, and the content of your character." https://imprimisarchives.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_05_Imprimis.pdf

the other point I'd make is that if those people who want the money, get the money, what if they now make quite a lot and then the left take it from them? DOH!

 

[rightwinger]

Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!!!!

...a man after midnight?

Sorry. Couldn't resist.




.

I love ABBA.

As a former (retired amateur) musician, I appreciate the musical talent and catchy lyrics. Other than Opeth, they a the best band to come out of Sweden.

That is all the praise I can give, because when it comes to ABBA, no straight man can ever admit anything more.


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Unless you enjoy wearing Spandex

 

[rightwinger]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us. We also need to expose them!! shout it, the left is trying to ruin the country!!! there is plenty of money for you and don't need the government.

The rich do have all the money and they have a government that helps ensure they keep it

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

I am trying to understand your post and where it is targeted. This isn't meant to confront, but rather understand.

Let's say there is an intelligent, hard working guy who the state, or even police in America don't like. He is not entitled to have a big screen tv and a Mercedes Benz, but, he has the RIGHT to pursue, without interference, his vocation and place of work, correct? He can earn $100k a year and buy what he wants, correct? Or, are police free to destroy a man if he doesn't have a criminal record based on their "opinion/observation"?

Now, in Canada, the state interferes in this right of a citizen. They contact the employer, before, after, and even during employment (moving someone into Human Resources, for example), to ensure harm to that persons career.

In your opinion, is this acceptable?

"...He is not entitled to have a big screen tv and a Mercedes Benz, ,,,"

I said no such thing.

In America the government has no authority to tax one citizen to provide " a big screen tv and a Mercedes Benz," to another.


Unlike the neo-Marxist Canada, we have a written Constitution, which specifies exactly what the federal government can do....Article 1, Section 8.



"Or, are police free to destroy a man if he doesn't have a criminal record based on their "opinion/observation"?"

In future threads, I will explain individual rights versus the majority rights....but be clear....if Progressives and Liberals are in charge....there are no natural rights, no property rights, no free speech, etc.....unless they decide to 'allow' same.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!!!!

...a man after midnight?

Sorry. Couldn't resist.




.

I love ABBA.

As a former (retired amateur) musician, I appreciate the musical talent and catchy lyrics. Other than Opeth, they a the best band to come out of Sweden.

That is all the praise I can give, because when it comes to ABBA, no straight man can ever admit anything more.


.

Unless you enjoy wearing Spandex

I don't. Necessity governs.

Ride 75 miles on a bike at a 22-mph average pace and let that lose-fitting clothing flap against your skin the entire time. You'll pay top dollar for good "spandex" clothing. Trust me.

.

 

[danielpalos]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

abolish our free and alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us. We also need to expose them!! shout it, the left is trying to ruin the country!!! there is plenty of money for you and don't need the government.

The rich do have all the money and they have a government that helps ensure they keep it

So, why do you want to give that fucking out-of-control government MORE power?

Why do you consistently want to TAKE power away from individuals?

Do you see the problem?

.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us.

Here, in America, there is no perennial class of 'the rich.'

"...economic mobility. About 60 percent of the households that were in the lowest income quintile in 1999 were in a higher quintile ten years later. During the same decade, almost 40 percent of the richest households fell to a lower quintile. This is a nation where you can rise or fall. It is a nation where you can climb the economic ladder based not on who you are born to, or what class you are born into, but based on your talents, your passion, your perseverance, and the content of your character." https://imprimisarchives.hillsdale.edu/file/archives/pdf/2013_05_Imprimis.pdf

the other point I'd make is that if those people who want the money, get the money, what if they now make quite a lot and then the left take it from them? DOH!

Ignorant Liberals....is that redundant.....are about "Feeding a Crocodile, Hoping It Will Eat Him Last"

 

[rightwinger]

Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!!!!

...a man after midnight?

Sorry. Couldn't resist.




.

I love ABBA.

As a former (retired amateur) musician, I appreciate the musical talent and catchy lyrics. Other than Opeth, they a the best band to come out of Sweden.

That is all the praise I can give, because when it comes to ABBA, no straight man can ever admit anything more.


.

Unless you enjoy wearing Spandex

I don't. Necessity governs.

Ride 75 miles on a bike at a 22-mph average pace and let that lose-fitting clothing flap against your skin the entire time. You'll pay top dollar for good "spandex" clothing. Trust me.

.

Come on Bootney

Admit that wearing Spandex gives you a hard on

 

[rightwinger]

PoliticalChic the left is actually trying to convince the stupid that the rich have all of the money and that they, the folks they talk to, can't have any unless the government takes it and gives it to them. That is the PLOY of the left today! Now, you and I can merely maintain that the left are anti american and that a dollar is still a dollar and with hard work you can earn one to a million of them. Money is not owned by the rich, it is owned by all of us. We also need to expose them!! shout it, the left is trying to ruin the country!!! there is plenty of money for you and don't need the government.

The rich do have all the money and they have a government that helps ensure they keep it

So, why do you want to give that fucking out-of-control government MORE power?

Why do you consistently want to TAKE power away from individuals?

Do you see the problem?

.

Yes, let’s just be done with it and give all the power to the one percent

 

[dudmuck]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

Yet the bigots in our country think they are entitled to border wall and indefinite detention of immigrants at our expense.

 

[jc456]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

Yet the bigots in our country think they are entitled to border wall and indefinite detention of immigrants at our expense.

in english please.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

...a man after midnight?

Sorry. Couldn't resist.




.

I love ABBA.

As a former (retired amateur) musician, I appreciate the musical talent and catchy lyrics. Other than Opeth, they a the best band to come out of Sweden.

That is all the praise I can give, because when it comes to ABBA, no straight man can ever admit anything more.


.

Unless you enjoy wearing Spandex

I don't. Necessity governs.

Ride 75 miles on a bike at a 22-mph average pace and let that lose-fitting clothing flap against your skin the entire time. You'll pay top dollar for good "spandex" clothing. Trust me.

.

Come on Bootney

Admit that wearing Spandex gives you a hard on

Alright, last off-topic response.

Actually, a hard on is almost impossible. Have you ever sat on a road bike like this:

The placement of the seat should tell you all you need to know.

By they way, if your plan is to insult, give it a rest. I don't give a shit, especially coming from couch-potato fat asses.

.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

Yet the bigots in our country think they are entitled to border wall and indefinite detention of immigrants at our expense.

Why is a wall bigoted? Are you suggesting that our immigration laws are bigoted? Take a look at the ENTIRE WORLD and the laws of every other nation and tell me the U.S. is bigoted.

Who wants indefinite detention of illegal law breakers at our expense?

Send them ALL back.

.

 

[jc456]

Whatever was promised when America was born, it wasn’t a large screen TV, or a pair of Jordan 1 Retro Legends Of Summer….


It was ‘rights.’
And important distinction in understanding America is the difference between ‘rights’ vs ‘entitlements.’



1.“…consider the original rights expressed in the Declaration of Independence and enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, it should be clear that there are massive differences between those rights and these new ones. The original rights were rights to live by one’s personal efforts without the interference of others, and in particular, without interference by government. That is what the founders of the United States were declaring independence from, after all.”
Rights Versus Entitlements | Steven Yates


The word "rights" is being twisted to mean entitlements, and there is a big difference. ... Entitlements, however, are welfare measures entailing government handouts. Rights are not limited by budget constraints, but entitlements are. So, rights are universal but entitlements are not.” Let’s not confuse entitlements with rights




2. The meaning of the term rights, today, represents what the Founders promised, and what the Left claims in will provide. The most important word in the Declaration of Independence is found here:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, …”

The word is ‘secure.’

That means that the most important function of government is to maintain pre-existing rights, not to create them, nor to dispense them. They are known and self-evident prior to the founding of our nation, are inalienable, whether one chooses to use them or not.

These are the rights:

Men are created equal, and enjoy the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.





3. Following the dictates of German philosopher, Hegel, the Left’s theory of government is at odds with that of America’s Founders. The original Americans memorialized in the Declaration of Independence, a specific set of rights that are immutable, inalienable and gifted to every America by, as the Founders put it, ‘Nature’s God, the Creator, the Supreme Judge, and divine Providence.

For the Left, Progressives, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, etc., there is no God, no universality of mankind, no God-given rights.




4. Pre-eminent Progressive, or should I say ‘Hegelian,’ Woodrow Wilson made clear his disdain for the beliefs of America’s founding: "If you want to understand the real Declaration, do not repeat the preface." –

Every totalitarian, Communist, Nazi, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Fascist, all promise every sort of material benefit…but you must give up those ‘inalienable rights’…


BTW….they never keep the promise….check out ‘the Worker’s Paradise.’

Yet the bigots in our country think they are entitled to border wall and indefinite detention of immigrants at our expense.

Why is a wall bigoted? Are you suggesting that our immigration laws are bigoted? Take a look at the ENTIRE WORLD and the laws of every other nation and tell me the U.S. is bigoted.

Who wants indefinite detention of illegal law breakers at our expense?

Send them ALL back.

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so when someone puts up a fence they are now bigots? wow, many bigots in the world, doesn't Nancy have a wall at her place?

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing has no room to talk. all they know how to do is lose money on public policies. we should be making money with our Commerce Clause.