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Both ends of the spectrum toss important words around like they're nothing.We've chosen to conflate "rights" with "wants", just as we've chosen to conflate fact with opinion.
I hope there is a way to back to critical thinking from here, but I just don't see it.
Not "we" have chosen, the left has chosen.
By Clintonizing words like rights, they are able to draw a little more attention and sympathy to their cause. They often use the term Human Rights because they know their so-called made-up rights are not constitutional ones.
The Left tosses out "rights", "racism", "homophobia" and "Nazi".
The Right tosses out "socialist", "communism" and (of course) "Nazi".
WE are to blame for that behavior.
.
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
OK, so tell us, what does a mother of 2 without a job in New York City get per year on average-) You know, all the goodies-)
Both ends of the spectrum toss important words around like they're nothing.We've chosen to conflate "rights" with "wants", just as we've chosen to conflate fact with opinion.
I hope there is a way to back to critical thinking from here, but I just don't see it.
Not "we" have chosen, the left has chosen.
By Clintonizing words like rights, they are able to draw a little more attention and sympathy to their cause. They often use the term Human Rights because they know their so-called made-up rights are not constitutional ones.
The Left tosses out "rights", "racism", "homophobia" and "Nazi".
The Right tosses out "socialist", "communism" and (of course) "Nazi".
WE are to blame for that behavior.
.
You and I do not always agree.
But this part of your argument I FULLY concur with.
ALL Americans are to blame for America's problems...especially for the ridiculous level of partisanship that has fallen over U.S. politics. And it helps America not one bit.
In fact, I think partisan politics is slowly destroying America.
That is largely why I am Independent (plus I think both major parties are so corrupt as to be beyond useless).
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
Well it's like my friends that me and the wife knows, and yep they confirmed the same story Ray has... LOL.... They said they ain't got a problem with people BBQing but when it goes on for 4 days straight like they experienced recently it was like Come onnnnnn really.They BBQ?why do so many libs keep saying that it is?
It generally believed that people need food, water and shelter to survive. Since the Right to Life is listed in the declaration of independence as an inalienable right, anyone who believes in inalienable rights would agree that housing is inherently a right.
No, you have a right to access those things, but not a right to be provided those things. Big difference.
Your rights end where mine begin.
These people want me to provide them with housing?
Why don’t liberals just sponsor homeless people to live in their spare bedrooms? Problem solved,
I unfortunately live next door to HUD people. Nice and quiet here until they moved in. Now they wake me at night because these lowlifes don't work or only work a few hours. They have BBQ parties for their friends; likely food bought with food stamps, and they are in the suburbs.
So where does this right exist that I work at least 40 a week to live here, and they get to move in virtually free and not work? As for the adults, all they'd have to do is lose about 200 lbs each and they could easily work. They have the energy to setup these parties of theirs all the time, I'm sure they have enough energy to support themselves.
OMG! Where does the depravity end?
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
Ran into a similar situation when my kids were in grade school. My son's teacher knew we weren't well off and kept pushing me to sign up for the school's free lunch program for lower income students. At one point, after me repeatedly refusing to sign up (I wasn't rich, but I could afford to feed my kids), she confessed why it was important to the school that I sign up: the school was very near a threshold - if they had enough low-income students they qualified for special benefits from the state government. Yep. Anyway ...
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
Ran into a similar situation when my kids were in grade school. My son's teacher knew we weren't well off and kept pushing me to sign up for the school's free lunch program for lower income students. At one point, after me repeatedly refusing to sign up (I wasn't rich, but I could afford to feed my kids), she confessed why it was important to the school that I sign up: the school was very near a threshold - if they had enough low-income students they qualified for special benefits from the state government. Yep. Anyway ...
Yup, I'm sure they told you they were just trying to help. Without saying who they were trying to help.
Ok, now what was unappealing to you concerning the plan offered when applied for it or inquired about it ?? I remember applying for temporary unemployment benefits once during the crash in which caused me to lose a job due the crisis. It was either that I was the wrong candidate in their eyes or something, because they treated me like crap when I went to check it out. Yep I also left thinking screw that mess, and when got home a job interview was on the answering machine. Never looked back, but it did make me wonder why they treated me like that in that hell hole ?I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
Ran into a similar situation when my kids were in grade school. My son's teacher knew we weren't well off and kept pushing me to sign up for the school's free lunch program for lower income students. At one point, after me repeatedly refusing to sign up (I wasn't rich, but I could afford to feed my kids), she confessed why it was important to the school that I sign up: the school was very near a threshold - if they had enough low-income students they qualified for special benefits from the state government. Yep. Anyway ...
Ok, now what was unappealing to you concerning the plan offered when applied for it or inquired about it ?? I remember applying for temporary unemployment benefits once during the crash in which caused me to lose a job due the crisis. It was either that I was the wrong candidate in their eyes or something, because they treated me like crap when I went to check it out. Yep I also left thinking screw that mess, and when got home a job interview was on the answering machine. Never looked back, but it did make me wonder why they treated me like that in that hell hole ?I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
As a child I had a terrible experience with the free lunch program.. The school would out you in front of the whole class in the way it was administered, and it caused shame to come upon you when the more affluent children would laugh or look at you like some kind of ameba in the situation. It was like that school I heard would give the free lunch kids a bagged cold lunch instead of a hot meal if had free lunch. How sad was that dammed situation ??I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
Ran into a similar situation when my kids were in grade school. My son's teacher knew we weren't well off and kept pushing me to sign up for the school's free lunch program for lower income students. At one point, after me repeatedly refusing to sign up (I wasn't rich, but I could afford to feed my kids), she confessed why it was important to the school that I sign up: the school was very near a threshold - if they had enough low-income students they qualified for special benefits from the state government. Yep. Anyway ...
Yup, I'm sure they told you they were just trying to help. Without saying who they were trying to help.
Actually, in the end, she was quite up front about it, suggesting that I was being 'selfish' because I wouldn't help them achieve their goal. Irony abounds ....
I know someone who has been on and off government assistance since she was 18 years old, and she says that the system of assistance sets the person up to fail, and causes the person to remain dependent.
I said to her that I think that there should be case workers assigned to 20 cases each or more if the work load is organized properly.. Reports are to be made, records kept, and help given in financial and schooling with results obtained. Drug testing should also be a big part of it. Living inspections made on properties being rented by the assistance programs etc.
And most of all we need government workers hired that don't have a biased or conflict of interest involved in doing their jobs. Otherwise drain the dam swamp already.
Everyone knows what has gone on to create these things, but people feel helpless to straighten the bullcrap out. Time to vote in the answers to these issues, and quit being fooled to place people in jobs that never intend to do the right thing, but instead see's their position as a given once obtained.
Trump is setting the tone on work ethic, and if others aren't willing to work hard, then get the hell out.
Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
Not quite sure if they give it that much thought. My concern is how responsible these case workers would be with money that's not theirs.
WTF? Is that just #5 on your talking point list? It's like you're posting at random.The far right suggestions and comments are right out of a white ethno-supremacist mind set.
As a child I had a terrible experience with the free lunch program.. The school would out you in front of the whole class in the way it was administered, and it caused shame to come upon you when the more affluent children would laugh or look at you like some kind of ameba in the situation. It was like that school I heard would give the free lunch kids a bagged cold lunch instead of a hot meal if had free lunch. How sad was that dammed situation ??Agree 100%, although the case workers may be just as bad, if not worse, then the people they're supposed to help.
When I was young during the Reagan recession when there were no jobs, I applied for welfare. Unhappy with what they told me, I got up and told the lady to shove her welfare and she'll never see me back there unless I become physically or mentally disabled.
They bothered me for over a year to come back and accept benefits. I repeatedly told them to leave me alone the entire time. Why would these government workers want to see people off of a program that provides them a decent job?
Ran into a similar situation when my kids were in grade school. My son's teacher knew we weren't well off and kept pushing me to sign up for the school's free lunch program for lower income students. At one point, after me repeatedly refusing to sign up (I wasn't rich, but I could afford to feed my kids), she confessed why it was important to the school that I sign up: the school was very near a threshold - if they had enough low-income students they qualified for special benefits from the state government. Yep. Anyway ...
Yup, I'm sure they told you they were just trying to help. Without saying who they were trying to help.
Actually, in the end, she was quite up front about it, suggesting that I was being 'selfish' because I wouldn't help them achieve their goal. Irony abounds ....
Both ends of the spectrum toss important words around like they're nothing.We've chosen to conflate "rights" with "wants", just as we've chosen to conflate fact with opinion.
I hope there is a way to back to critical thinking from here, but I just don't see it.
Not "we" have chosen, the left has chosen.
By Clintonizing words like rights, they are able to draw a little more attention and sympathy to their cause. They often use the term Human Rights because they know their so-called made-up rights are not constitutional ones.
The Left tosses out "rights", "racism", "homophobia" and "Nazi".
The Right tosses out "socialist", "communism" and (of course) "Nazi".
WE are to blame for that behavior.
.
You and I do not always agree.
But this part of your argument I FULLY concur with.
ALL Americans are to blame for America's problems...especially for the ridiculous level of partisanship that has fallen over U.S. politics. And it helps America not one bit.
In fact, I think partisan politics is slowly destroying America.
That is largely why I am Independent (plus I think both major parties are so corrupt as to be beyond useless).
Well, considering most of your posts, some of us are fricken shocked you would consider yourself an independent.
