How can there ever be peace here?

So in your world, Mexico can only attack poorer countries. So why isn't Mexico at war? There's tons of countries right around them that are much poorer than they are. Please explain.

First you did not answer my question.

second, Mexico is not at war with other more poor countries because those countries also protect their territory with force.

So Mexico couldn't take Guatamala? Haiti? Belize?... Gimme a break!
And the US could take Mexico, or Haiti, or bermuda, Jamaica, Canada.... So why don't they attack?

You are still avoiding answering my question, and yet you expect me to answer your questions, don't you think that's a bit rude?


You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.


I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
 
First you did not answer my question.

second, Mexico is not at war with other more poor countries because those countries also protect their territory with force.

So Mexico couldn't take Guatamala? Haiti? Belize?... Gimme a break!
And the US could take Mexico, or Haiti, or bermuda, Jamaica, Canada.... So why don't they attack?

You are still avoiding answering my question, and yet you expect me to answer your questions, don't you think that's a bit rude?


You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.


I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.

Friendly relations, like, why doesn't the US invade Canada? Canada has basically no army and relies on the US for protection.

As for Israel, they were founded by force, so they need to keep that up, since Israel wasn't founded on peaceful grounds.
 
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So Mexico couldn't take Guatamala? Haiti? Belize?... Gimme a break!
And the US could take Mexico, or Haiti, or bermuda, Jamaica, Canada.... So why don't they attack?

You are still avoiding answering my question, and yet you expect me to answer your questions, don't you think that's a bit rude?


You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.


I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.

Friendly relations, like, why doesn't the US invade Canada? Canada has basically no army and relies on the US for protection.

As for Israel, they were founded by force, so they need to keep that up, since Israel wasn't founded on peaceful grounds.

Most of the countries we know today were founded by force.

The USA and Canada are allied countries, there is no comparison here to Israel and Arab countries (even though Israel has peace with Egypt and Jordan they are not considered allied countries).

Friendly relations is for allied countries who have peace between them.


During the Cold War, why do you think the Soviet Union did not invade the US or vice versa?

if Israel is the only country who use force in order to keep its borders safe, how come other countries have armies at all?

If your little theory is correct, the only country in the world with an army would be Israel,which is not the case.
 
You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.
 
You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.

Irgun and Hagana where defenders of the Jewish civilians against the military force of the OCCUPIED Israel by the British army. They were Guerillas, not terrorists;
 
You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.

Someone ELSE'S home? how many Jewish fields, homes, properties, where burned down, destroyed and stolen by Arab clans (todays' "Palestinians") in the beginning of the 1900's?!

Where were the "Palestinian people" because those years?

they didn't even EXIST.
 
You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.

Your knowledge of History is really lacking. The hatred was not started because of the "Irgun".(I am strongly opposed to what the "Irgun" did)

Jews immigrated to this land, and legally bought portion of it. The first act of violence was committed by the Arabs in the year 1920. This act of violence was the reason why the "Haganh" were created letter later on, and the "Irgun" was created even later on.

1920–1921

Palestinian leader Haj Amin al-Husseini repeatedly fomented riots against Jews. In the 1920 incidents, six Jews were killed and 200 wounded; in 1921, 43 Jews were killed and 147 wounded. In response, Jews organized defensive forces that would later become the Haganah, the forerunner of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
Timeline of the Israeli

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.
This statement has no place in reality, and shows your lack of knowledge.

I don't refuse to blame Israel as part of the problem, however what you are doing is not blaming Israel as "part of the problem" you are blaming Israel is the whole problem. And it's just a blatant lie.
 
You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.

And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

Yeah, those peaceful Arabs didn't hate the Jews before this point. Right.
 
You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.
Once upon a time there was a man named Moses and...uh,you've heard this story before? Then you don't have to be reminded. Carry on.
 
Israel was founded by force??? How do ya like that? And here I actually believed Israel was founded by a legal & ethical vote by member nations of the UN at that time.


So Mexico couldn't take Guatamala? Haiti? Belize?... Gimme a break!
And the US could take Mexico, or Haiti, or bermuda, Jamaica, Canada.... So why don't they attack?

You are still avoiding answering my question, and yet you expect me to answer your questions, don't you think that's a bit rude?


You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.


I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.

Friendly relations, like, why doesn't the US invade Canada? Canada has basically no army and relies on the US for protection.

As for Israel, they were founded by force, so they need to keep that up, since Israel wasn't founded on peaceful grounds.
 
here is the first DOCUMENTED MASSACRE in the Middle East. Peaceful Palestinians indeed.

Palestine Arab Riots 1929



You suggest that Israel is at fault by protecting its territory with the means of force.

I told you that all countries control their territory and protect it with the use of force.
I asked you, "What do you think prevents from one country attacking another country?". You have yet to provide an answer to that question.
You're getting a little head of yourself. Let's back up to before the zionists declared that it was "their" territory. If we're going to get to the root of this problem, it's starts with the migration of jews from Europe and elsewhere into this area in the hundreds of thousands. And the "force" we are talking about, is not the military force of a nation-state, it is "terrorism from jewish insurgents" into this area. Do you not know what Irgun was and what they did? This is not a military defending it's country, this is thugs going colonial. And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

But you can't see that forest through the trees, because you refuse to blame Israeli's as part of the problem. I'm sorry, when you go into someone else's home and declare it yours, you're the problem.

And that is the genesis of all this hatred.

Yeah, those peaceful Arabs didn't hate the Jews before this point. Right.
 
here is the first DOCUMENTED MASSACRE in the Middle East. Peaceful Palestinians indeed.
After several years of having their land taken from them, being dis-enfranchised politically, having no world organization willing to listen to their pleas that they have a right to self-determination too, WTF do you think is going to happen?

Much like a neutered dog, you don't get it, do you?

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews with a different religious ideology and own 97% of the land. Then you inject zionists who don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks and wants to create a jewish state for political reasons and personal gain. You don't have to be a genius to see when you live your life at someone else's expense, one day you will face the consequences of your actions. That's guaranteed!

And that's something you Israeli ass-kissers don't seem to understand. All this crap you inflict on the Palestinian's will come back to haunt you. Karma has a way of balancing things out. Until then, I think you're bunch of hypocrites and cowards who are mentally incapable of dealing with reality and are completely detached from humanity at any level. Not all of you. There are a lot of good, decent, caring Israeli's who are truly a gift to this world, but you're not one of them.
 
here is the first DOCUMENTED MASSACRE in the Middle East. Peaceful Palestinians indeed.
After several years of having their land taken from them, being dis-enfranchised politically, having no world organization willing to listen to their pleas that they have a right to self-determination too, WTF do you think is going to happen?

Much like a neutered dog, you don't get it, do you?

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews with a different religious ideology and own 97% of the land. Then you inject zionists who don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks and wants to create a jewish state for political reasons and personal gain. You don't have to be a genius to see when you live your life at someone else's expense, one day you will face the consequences of your actions. That's guaranteed!

And that's something you Israeli ass-kissers don't seem to understand. All this crap you inflict on the Palestinian's will come back to haunt you. Karma has a way of balancing things out. Until then, I think you're bunch of hypocrites and cowards who are mentally incapable of dealing with reality and are completely detached from humanity at any level. Not all of you. There are a lot of good, decent, caring Israeli's who are truly a gift to this world, but you're not one of them.

You know much about sucking dick. History, not so much http://www.usmessageboard.com/5143970-post567.html

Tashbih Sayyed, Muslim Pakistani Scholar, Journalist, Author and Former Editor in Chief of Our Times, Pakistan Today, and The Muslim World Today
Blinded by their anti-Semitism, Arabs ignore the fact that neither are they an indigenous group nor is the Jewish nationhood a new phenomenon in Palestine; the Jewish nation was born during 40 years of wandering in the Sinai more than five thousand years ago and has remained connected with Palestine ever since. “Even after the destruction of the last Jewish commonwealth in the first century, the Jewish people maintained their own autonomous political and legal institutions: the Davidic dynasty was preserved in Baghdad until the thirteenth century through the rule of the Exilarch (Resh Galuta), while the return to Zion was incorporated into the most widely practiced Jewish traditions, including the end of the Yom Kippur service and the Passover Seder, as well as in everyday prayers. Thus, Jewish historic rights were kept alive in Jewish historical consciousness.

It is a matter of record that the Arabs owe their presence in Palestine to the Ottomans who settled Muslim populations as a buffer against Bedouin attacks and Ibrahim Pasha, the Egyptian ruler who brought Egyptian colonists with his army in the 1830s. And during all those times when Arabs lived under the Ottoman rule, they never showed any desire for national independence.

Jerusalem has always remained a Jewish majority – a symbol of Jewish yearning to be an independent nation as they thrived in communities in many of Palestine’s towns. “By 1864, a clear-cut Jewish majority emerged in Jerusalem - more than half a century before the arrival of the British Empire and the League of Nations Mandate. During the years that the Jewish presence in Eretz Israel was restored, a huge Arab population influx transpired as Arab immigrants sought to take advantage of higher wages and economic opportunities that resulted from Jewish settlement in the land. President Roosevelt concluded in 1939 that "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

The present Arab declaration challenging the Jewish character of Israel cannot be ignored because it is not just an expression of dissatisfaction by a minority about their socio-economic situation but a reminder that Islamist radicalism and fundamentalism has now decided to challenge openly the legitimacy of the Jewish state.
Global Politician - Israel?s Arab Citizens And The Jewish State

PBS: Civilization and the Jews
The interaction of Jewish history and Western civilization successively assumed different forms. In the Biblical and Ancient periods, Israel was an integral part of the Near Eastern and classical world, which gave birth to Western civilization. It shared the traditions of ancient Mesopotamia and the rest of that world with regard to it’s own beginning; it benefited from the decline of Egypt and the other great Near Eastern empires to emerge as a nation in it’s own right; it asserted it’s claim to the divinely promised Land of Israel
PBS - Heritage

Harvard University Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth.

Harvard University Semitic Museum: Jerusalem During The Reign Of King Hezekiah--New Exhibition At The Semitic Museum Re-Creates Numerous Aspects Of Ancient Israel Harvard Gazette: Jerusalem during the reign of King Hezekiah

The Semitic Museum has installed a new exhibition that brings the world of biblical Israel into vivid, three-dimensional reality. "The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine" immerses the viewer in Israelite daily life around the time of King Hezekiah (8th century B.C.), creating an experiential environment based on the latest archaeological, textual, and historical research.
The centerpiece of the exhibition is a full-scale Israelite house, open on one side, filled with authentic ancient artifacts that show how life was lived by common inhabitants of ancient Jerusalem. Agricultural tools, a cooking area, and a stall occupied by a single, scruffy ram fill the ground floor of the cube-shaped, mud-brick structure, which, thankfully, is not olfactorily authentic. The upper story, reached by a ladder, is devoted to eating and sleeping.

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press

In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.

PBS Nova ...
In the banks of the Nile in southern Egypt in 1896, British archaeologisit Flinders Petrie unearthed one of the most important discoveries in biblical archaeology known as the Merneptah Stele. Merneptah's stele announces the entrance on the world stage of a People named Israel.

The Merneptah Stele is powerful evidence that a People called the Israelites are living in Canaan over 3000 years ago

Dr. Donald Redford, Egyptologist and archaeologist: The Merneptah Stele is priceless evidence for the presence of an ethnical group called Israel in Canaan.


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Your knowledge of History is really lacking. The hatred was not started because of the "Irgun".(I am strongly opposed to what the "Irgun" did)
I didn't say it was started by Irgun. My point was that jewish terrorism was a factor in creating hostilities between the two groups.

Jews immigrated to this land, and legally bought portion of it. The first act of violence was committed by the Arabs in the year 1920. This act of violence was the reason why the "Haganh" were created letter later on, and the "Irgun" was created even later on.
First you say you're opposed to them, then you defend their existance.

This statement has no place in reality, and shows your lack of knowledge.
Really? Now. who migrated where? Which group was the one to migrate into the area and what was the group already living there? And why would the group already living there, not object to the group moving in and taking their land.

I don't refuse to blame Israel as part of the problem, however what you are doing is not blaming Israel as "part of the problem" you are blaming Israel is the whole problem. And it's just a blatant lie.
Again, you're putting words in my mouth. I never said they're whole problem. And you never mention what their problems are. We always seem to be discussing what the Pals are doing wrong, but never what the Israeli's are doing wrong. So until we have that discussion, I'm gonna have to keep telling you things you don't want to hear.
 
Your knowledge of History is really lacking. The hatred was not started because of the "Irgun".(I am strongly opposed to what the "Irgun" did)
I didn't say it was started by Irgun. My point was that jewish terrorism was a factor in creating hostilities between the two groups.

Jews immigrated to this land, and legally bought portion of it. The first act of violence was committed by the Arabs in the year 1920. This act of violence was the reason why the "Haganh" were created letter later on, and the "Irgun" was created even later on.
First you say you're opposed to them, then you defend their existance.

This statement has no place in reality, and shows your lack of knowledge.
Really? Now. who migrated where? Which group was the one to migrate into the area and what was the group already living there? And why would the group already living there, not object to the group moving in and taking their land.

I don't refuse to blame Israel as part of the problem, however what you are doing is not blaming Israel as "part of the problem" you are blaming Israel is the whole problem. And it's just a blatant lie.
Again, you're putting words in my mouth. I never said they're whole problem. And you never mention what their problems are. We always seem to be discussing what the Pals are doing wrong, but never what the Israeli's are doing wrong. So until we have that discussion, I'm gonna have to keep telling you things you don't want to hear.

Fakestinians admit they're just arabs from egypt and saudi arabia who illegally entered Israel. They need to go the fuck back to their own shitholes they came from.

Palesteenian Hamas Minister of the Interior Fathi Hammad, Al-Hekma TV [Egypt]: "Half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis"
Brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in Gaza. Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots--whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere.

Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that.

More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [Egyptian]

Brothers, half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis

Who are the Palestinians? we have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. we are Arabs. We are Muslims
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis"

Winston Churchill, Secretary of "Palestine" During British Mandate to House of Commons, Parliamentary Debates, 23 May 1939
So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.
Churchill and the Jews | Martin Gilbert | Macmillan
 
BRAVO LOINBOY! I totally agree that Israel is getting what israel deserves for their brutal treatment of the Palestinians with their damn peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to keep them captives instead of finding an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Shame on those Zionists in Israel.




here is the first DOCUMENTED MASSACRE in the Middle East. Peaceful Palestinians indeed.
After several years of having their land taken from them, being dis-enfranchised politically, having no world organization willing to listen to their pleas that they have a right to self-determination too, WTF do you think is going to happen?

Much like a neutered dog, you don't get it, do you?

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews with a different religious ideology and own 97% of the land. Then you inject zionists who don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks and wants to create a jewish state for political reasons and personal gain. You don't have to be a genius to see when you live your life at someone else's expense, one day you will face the consequences of your actions. That's guaranteed!

And that's something you Israeli ass-kissers don't seem to understand. All this crap you inflict on the Palestinian's will come back to haunt you. Karma has a way of balancing things out. Until then, I think you're bunch of hypocrites and cowards who are mentally incapable of dealing with reality and are completely detached from humanity at any level. Not all of you. There are a lot of good, decent, caring Israeli's who are truly a gift to this world, but you're not one of them.
 
here is the first DOCUMENTED MASSACRE in the Middle East. Peaceful Palestinians indeed.
After several years of having their land taken from them, being dis-enfranchised politically, having no world organization willing to listen to their pleas that they have a right to self-determination too, WTF do you think is going to happen?

Much like a neutered dog, you don't get it, do you?

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews with a different religious ideology and own 97% of the land. Then you inject zionists who don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks and wants to create a jewish state for political reasons and personal gain. You don't have to be a genius to see when you live your life at someone else's expense, one day you will face the consequences of your actions. That's guaranteed!

And that's something you Israeli ass-kissers don't seem to understand. All this crap you inflict on the Palestinian's will come back to haunt you. Karma has a way of balancing things out. Until then, I think you're bunch of hypocrites and cowards who are mentally incapable of dealing with reality and are completely detached from humanity at any level. Not all of you. There are a lot of good, decent, caring Israeli's who are truly a gift to this world, but you're not one of them.

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews

When were 90% non-Jews? What year?

and own 97% of the land.

Sorry, the Ottoman empire lost the land.
 
When were 90% non-Jews? What year?
Oh, shut-up! What kind of a dumbass question is that? Nothing you say can change the fact that there were PEOPLE living in that area at the time the jews were migrating in. And by current definition, that makes the zionists "the insurgents".


and own 97% of the land.

Sorry, the Ottoman empire lost the land.
Not to the jews!

You can't move into an area and automatically have more rights than the people already there? Well, you can if you're German. Are you German?
 
here is the first DOCUMENTED MASSACRE in the Middle East. Peaceful Palestinians indeed.
After several years of having their land taken from them, being dis-enfranchised politically, having no world organization willing to listen to their pleas that they have a right to self-determination too, WTF do you think is going to happen?

Much like a neutered dog, you don't get it, do you?

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews with a different religious ideology and own 97% of the land. Then you inject zionists who don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks and wants to create a jewish state for political reasons and personal gain. You don't have to be a genius to see when you live your life at someone else's expense, one day you will face the consequences of your actions. That's guaranteed!

And that's something you Israeli ass-kissers don't seem to understand. All this crap you inflict on the Palestinian's will come back to haunt you. Karma has a way of balancing things out. Until then, I think you're bunch of hypocrites and cowards who are mentally incapable of dealing with reality and are completely detached from humanity at any level. Not all of you. There are a lot of good, decent, caring Israeli's who are truly a gift to this world, but you're not one of them.

You have a large migration of jews into an area where 90% of the people are non-jews

When were 90% non-Jews? What year?

and own 97% of the land.

Sorry, the Ottoman empire lost the land.

Who owned Israel 3000 years before the ottomans?

PBS: Civilization and the Jews
The interaction of Jewish history and Western civilization successively assumed different forms. In the Biblical and Ancient periods, Israel was an integral part of the Near Eastern and classical world, which gave birth to Western civilization. It shared the traditions of ancient Mesopotamia and the rest of that world with regard to it’s own beginning; it benefited from the decline of Egypt and the other great Near Eastern empires to emerge as a nation in it’s own right; it asserted it’s claim to the divinely promised Land of Israel
PBS - Heritage

Harvard University Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth.

Harvard University Semitic Museum: Jerusalem During The Reign Of King Hezekiah--New Exhibition At The Semitic Museum Re-Creates Numerous Aspects Of Ancient Israel Harvard Gazette: Jerusalem during the reign of King Hezekiah

The Semitic Museum has installed a new exhibition that brings the world of biblical Israel into vivid, three-dimensional reality. "The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine" immerses the viewer in Israelite daily life around the time of King Hezekiah (8th century B.C.), creating an experiential environment based on the latest archaeological, textual, and historical research.
The centerpiece of the exhibition is a full-scale Israelite house, open on one side, filled with authentic ancient artifacts that show how life was lived by common inhabitants of ancient Jerusalem. Agricultural tools, a cooking area, and a stall occupied by a single, scruffy ram fill the ground floor of the cube-shaped, mud-brick structure, which, thankfully, is not olfactorily authentic. The upper story, reached by a ladder, is devoted to eating and sleeping.

Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel The Archaeology of Ancient Israel - Ben-Tor, Amnon; Greenberg, R. - Yale University Press
 
BRAVO LOINBOY! I totally agree that Israel is getting what israel deserves for their brutal treatment of the Palestinians with their damn peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to keep them captives instead of finding an incentive to offer the Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Shame on those Zionists in Israel.
Go fuck yourself, asshole!
 

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