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Better they pay for it rather than you and me when they go to they emergency room for a common cold.
They will though.
What single mother of two, working as a waitress, has extra money to pay for coverage?
Might as well continue to use the ER and just pay the fine out of their $5,000 EIC Tax refund
You really don't understand how it works, do you? A single mother of two whose only job is being a waitress will either fall into Medicaid or if she earns enough, she'll get a huge tax credit that will pay for almost all of her health insurance. Yes, it's more welfare, but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid, and it will help keep costs down.
Can your boobs type too or is that just an optical illusion?
How do you think the current system works? People who have no insurance go to the ER and get treated, and if needed, are checked in to a room upstairs. Who do you think ultimately pays under the current system when they don't? You do.
So we were already paying for those who did not have insurance but gov't insisted on shoving through a law that mandates we all have to buy insurance (unless you can't afford it then the rest of us have to subsidize (pay for) those people) but in order to be fair, pre-exsisting conditions get to pay the same rate as non-pre-existing conditions, which means the non-pre-existing condtion people will picking up the slack (pay for) for the pre-existing condition people and oh yeah, while they were at it they gov't also decided what would have to be mandatory coverage and that includes maternity, newborn, pediatric care (including vision and dental) and who the hell cares that a 55 year old single no kids person has to pay for something they do not need and will never, ever use.
Only in a screwed up mind does this fix the problem of someone else having to pay for the other guy.
Before obiecare my deductable never exceeded 2k per year. Now it's 5k. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else.
plus you have to pay 10-30% AFTER the deductible as well.
Sounds like a lot of you are used to having insurance that comes with a $500 deductible and then pays 100% after that. That is the reason insurance policies cost $6000 per year. I've always had a private policy because I'm self-employed, and I've never had a deductible under $2500 per year per family member. My max out of pocket has normally been $5000 for each member of my family. After my deductible, they pay 80%. Some doctors visits are covered with a copay as are prescriptions. That's a normal policy to me, and I pay about $600 per month for myself an my two boys. Every year I have about $1000 to $2000 in out of pocket medical expenses on top of the insurance.
I find it hilarious how so many of you complain about the cost of insurance but then complain if your plan doesn't cover 100% of all your medical bills. This attitude came about because too many people get their insurance through their employer and they have no fucking idea how much it really costs.
They will though.
What single mother of two, working as a waitress, has extra money to pay for coverage?
Might as well continue to use the ER and just pay the fine out of their $5,000 EIC Tax refund
You really don't understand how it works, do you? A single mother of two whose only job is being a waitress will either fall into Medicaid or if she earns enough, she'll get a huge tax credit that will pay for almost all of her health insurance. Yes, it's more welfare, but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid, and it will help keep costs down.
How does that help her if she has start suddenly paying another sizable up front and wait for the end of the tax year to come in order to receive it? That's my main problem with it; a mandatory expense that people who may be struggling have to pay. What is the "domino effect" going to be? Will they stop paying other bills in order to pay this mandatory bill? What will this do to the already struggling economy?
Before obiecare my deductable never exceeded 2k per year. Now it's 5k. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else.
plus you have to pay 10-30% AFTER the deductible as well.
Sounds like a lot of you are used to having insurance that comes with a $500 deductible and then pays 100% after that. That is the reason insurance policies cost $6000 per year. I've always had a private policy because I'm self-employed, and I've never had a deductible under $2500 per year per family member. My max out of pocket has normally been $5000 for each member of my family. After my deductible, they pay 80%. Some doctors visits are covered with a copay as are prescriptions. That's a normal policy to me, and I pay about $600 per month for myself an my two boys. Every year I have about $1000 to $2000 in out of pocket medical expenses on top of the insurance.
I find it hilarious how so many of you complain about the cost of insurance but then complain if your plan doesn't cover 100% of all your medical bills. This attitude came about because too many people get their insurance through their employer and they have no fucking idea how much it really costs.
They will though.
What single mother of two, working as a waitress, has extra money to pay for coverage?
Might as well continue to use the ER and just pay the fine out of their $5,000 EIC Tax refund
You really don't understand how it works, do you? A single mother of two whose only job is being a waitress will either fall into Medicaid or if she earns enough, she'll get a huge tax credit that will pay for almost all of her health insurance. Yes, it's more welfare, but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid, and it will help keep costs down.
How does that help her if she has start suddenly paying another sizable up front and wait for the end of the tax year to come in order to receive it? That's my main problem with it; a mandatory expense that people who may be struggling have to pay. What is the "domino effect" going to be? Will they stop paying other bills in order to pay this mandatory bill? What will this do to the already struggling economy?
Better they pay for it rather than you and me when they go to they emergency room for a common cold.
Better they pay for it rather than you and me when they go to they emergency room for a common cold.
We are paying for it.
Where do you think those subsidies come from?
Taxpayer money.
They will though.
What single mother of two, working as a waitress, has extra money to pay for coverage?
Might as well continue to use the ER and just pay the fine out of their $5,000 EIC Tax refund
You really don't understand how it works, do you? A single mother of two whose only job is being a waitress will either fall into Medicaid or if she earns enough, she'll get a huge tax credit that will pay for almost all of her health insurance. Yes, it's more welfare, but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid, and it will help keep costs down.
but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid
no not really
the bronze plan pays
only a portion of two doctor office visits
any other office visits come out of pocket
then there is a 5000 dollar deductible
this in addition to monthly insurance payments
doctors will probably get paid less then they do now
because any money the working poor had to pay the
docs will go to insurance payments
You really don't understand how it works, do you? A single mother of two whose only job is being a waitress will either fall into Medicaid or if she earns enough, she'll get a huge tax credit that will pay for almost all of her health insurance. Yes, it's more welfare, but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid, and it will help keep costs down.
but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid
no not really
the bronze plan pays
only a portion of two doctor office visits
any other office visits come out of pocket
then there is a 5000 dollar deductible
this in addition to monthly insurance payments
doctors will probably get paid less then they do now
because any money the working poor had to pay the
docs will go to insurance payments
Because costs are so out of control, that $5000 deductible is gone after the first day in the hospital if you get sick. Bronze plans are pretty much catastrophic plans that insure the person is covered in case they really get sick or in some type of accident. I will most likely purchase a bronze plan even though I have a pre-existing condition. My yearly out of pocket is still only between $1000 and $2000, so the lower premium is beneficial in my case.
As for hospitals getting paid, they can deal with not getting paid a few thousand if someone can't come up with the deductible. What is killing us is when someone receives treatment that costs $20,000 to $1 million or more and then can't pay.
Better they pay for it rather than you and me when they go to they emergency room for a common cold.
We are paying for it.
Where do you think those subsidies come from?
Taxpayer money.
NOT, according to the CBO, unless you make over 250k or are a medical device manufacturer. Getting those on welfare to get Medicaid WORKING, GETTING 40 MILLION FREELOADERS PAYING SOMETHING OR TO A DOCTOR OR CLINIC WITH PREVENTIVE CARE, OR ANY AMOUNT OF COST SAVINGS YOU HATER DUPES NEVER hear about etc etc etc. Change the fecking channel, brainwashed MORON. TYVM.
What really kills hospitals is people showing up for free care in the Emergency Room...and ObamaCare is going to make this worse due to doctors retiring early to avoid being slaves to the state.
You really don't understand how it works, do you? A single mother of two whose only job is being a waitress will either fall into Medicaid or if she earns enough, she'll get a huge tax credit that will pay for almost all of her health insurance. Yes, it's more welfare, but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid, and it will help keep costs down.
but it makes certain the hospitals and doctors actually get paid
no not really
the bronze plan pays
only a portion of two doctor office visits
any other office visits come out of pocket
then there is a 5000 dollar deductible
this in addition to monthly insurance payments
doctors will probably get paid less then they do now
because any money the working poor had to pay the
docs will go to insurance payments
Because costs are so out of control, that $5000 deductible is gone after the first day in the hospital if you get sick. Bronze plans are pretty much catastrophic plans that insure the person is covered in case they really get sick or in some type of accident. I will most likely purchase a bronze plan even though I have a pre-existing condition. My yearly out of pocket is still only between $1000 and $2000, so the lower premium is beneficial in my case.
As for hospitals getting paid, they can deal with not getting paid a few thousand if someone can't come up with the deductible. What is killing us is when someone receives treatment that costs $20,000 to $1 million or more and then can't pay.
There's a 6k cap on annual patient spending, dingbat. Typical loudmouth Pub dupe. CLUELESS.
