Uncensored2008
Libertarian Radical
If all you have to do is apologize, does that mean anyone can get into heaven?
No more than you will be... Scumbag.
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If all you have to do is apologize, does that mean anyone can get into heaven?
Believing that Jesus will magically change anyone from being greedy, egotistical and heartless later on, doesn't justify those actions. It's like Hitler showing up at the Pearly gates and saying, "Okay, I'm ready for the transformation now." There are consequences to all our actions, that's another reason for reincarnation. Besides Elijah being reincarnated as John the Baptist, for the benefit of the plan, we must all pay off our Karma. Hitler's Dharma may take thousands of years.I see none in you, just self righteousness.
"You shall know them by their fruits. A good tree doesn't produce bad fruit." But don't worry about where others go, think about where you're headed.
Learn the parable of the rich man that prays to God, "Lord, thank you for not making me a filthy scum like that poor man." The rich man already has received his reward.
"The first shall be last, and the last shall be first." I'd rather be last for 60 or 70 years, than to be last for eternity.
Jesus warned against being self righteous, and thinking that you're already "saved".
Jesus said, "There will be many that come to me on the last day and say, Didn't I cast out demons in your name, and didn't I prophecy in your name?" And he will answer them, "I know you not, you are workers of iniquity."
There are so many here that think they are "saved", that are far from God. Greed, egotism, and heartlessness lead to perdition.
Careful, there.
Let God judge between the two of us. Hopefully He will be merciful to both of us. Because I know I need mercy. Im not a gambling man, but I could bet Hangover needs it too.
"All have come short of the glory"...And I don't pretend to be holy.
The beautiful part of the Gospel is that when we recieve our Eternal rewards, we wont be the same people we are now. Christ will change us. And we will be our true selves.
Does god punish the mentally ill?
If all you have to do is apologize, does that mean anyone can get into heaven?
The more you post, the more you sound like this.
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okay let me throw in a pagan twist.....i think yall just have some major egos problems here....do you really think humans can comprehend a god? or that a god can comprehend humans.....we are like ants to the gods...simple as that...they have no care for what becomes of us....yet you think you can plead and beg your gods into doing what you want? or caring what you want?
okay let me throw in a pagan twist.....i think yall just have some major egos problems here....do you really think humans can comprehend a god? or that a god can comprehend humans.....we are like ants to the gods...simple as that...they have no care for what becomes of us....yet you think you can plead and beg your gods into doing what you want? or caring what you want?
If we were created by a god, or even gods, I see no reason they would have anymore trouble comprehending us than we have comprehending a computer or an internal combustion engine.
Believing that Jesus will magically change anyone from being greedy, egotistical and heartless later on, doesn't justify those actions. It's like Hitler showing up at the Pearly gates and saying, "Okay, I'm ready for the transformation now." There are consequences to all our actions, that's another reason for reincarnation. Besides Elijah being reincarnated as John the Baptist, for the benefit of the plan, we must all pay off our Karma. Hitler's Dharma may take thousands of years.Careful, there.
Let God judge between the two of us. Hopefully He will be merciful to both of us. Because I know I need mercy. Im not a gambling man, but I could bet Hangover needs it too.
"All have come short of the glory"...And I don't pretend to be holy.
The beautiful part of the Gospel is that when we recieve our Eternal rewards, we wont be the same people we are now. Christ will change us. And we will be our true selves.
Does god punish the mentally ill?
okay let me throw in a pagan twist.....i think yall just have some major egos problems here....do you really think humans can comprehend a god? or that a god can comprehend humans.....we are like ants to the gods...simple as that...they have no care for what becomes of us....yet you think you can plead and beg your gods into doing what you want? or caring what you want?
If we were created by a god, or even gods, I see no reason they would have anymore trouble comprehending us than we have comprehending a computer or an internal combustion engine.
You kind of proved her point in a way.![]()
I reject the idea of eternal torture. It always comforted me to think that with incredibly rare exception, my religion didn't teach that.
If I had to make up a heaven and hell idea on my own, if someone was too horrible to redeem I would have them go to sleep and have their energy dissipate into the cosmos.
I recoil from the idea that God would create people at his will, without their permission, and then when they failed to live up to whatever he required of them, he would make them suffer for eternity.
Those that die as taught by the Book of Mormon go no where but spiritually they either exist in comfort or discomfort. Until the Judgement day. Haven't read far enough to say whether they are forgiven after the punishment or not. I guess I could ask the missionaries, they generally know whats up.
Ya I am active in the church again after 30 years. Well sort of active, I go to services and the missionaries visit.
Yes you did, but now you need to change it, don't you. Admitting your mistakes is like confessing your sins. Trying to change what you said, is less than honest.Believing that Jesus will magically change anyone from being greedy, egotistical and heartless later on, doesn't justify those actions. It's like Hitler showing up at the Pearly gates and saying, "Okay, I'm ready for the transformation now." There are consequences to all our actions, that's another reason for reincarnation. Besides Elijah being reincarnated as John the Baptist, for the benefit of the plan, we must all pay off our Karma. Hitler's Dharma may take thousands of years.Let God judge between the two of us. Hopefully He will be merciful to both of us. Because I know I need mercy. Im not a gambling man, but I could bet Hangover needs it too.
"All have come short of the glory"...And I don't pretend to be holy.
The beautiful part of the Gospel is that when we recieve our Eternal rewards, we wont be the same people we are now. Christ will change us. And we will be our true selves.
I never claimed that we would be magically changed at judgment. Christ changes and refines all those who seek Him daily. We aren't the finished product.
Only if you can't read.
Only if you can't read.
Or in Luissa's case, can't think...
If we were created by a god, or even gods, I see no reason they would have anymore trouble comprehending us than we have comprehending a computer or an internal combustion engine.
You kind of proved her point in a way.![]()
Only if you can't read.
My question is in reference to the OP, "Is Hitler in Heaven? What about John Wayne Gacy?" Does God punish the mentally ill because Hitler and Gacy would have to be mentally ill, in my opinion, to do what they did.Does god punish the mentally ill?
I assume that question is in regard to RDean?
Perhaps god is punishing the board WITH the mentally ill?
Yes you did, but now you need to change it, don't you. Admitting your mistakes is like confessing your sins. Trying to change what you said, is less than honest.Believing that Jesus will magically change anyone from being greedy, egotistical and heartless later on, doesn't justify those actions. It's like Hitler showing up at the Pearly gates and saying, "Okay, I'm ready for the transformation now." There are consequences to all our actions, that's another reason for reincarnation. Besides Elijah being reincarnated as John the Baptist, for the benefit of the plan, we must all pay off our Karma. Hitler's Dharma may take thousands of years.
I never claimed that we would be magically changed at judgment. Christ changes and refines all those who seek Him daily. We aren't the finished product.