John Kerry: We could have shot the jet down.

Should the Russian jet been shot down prior to reaching our ship?

  • Hell yeah!

  • No


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I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

Yo, they know they can do it, and nothing will happen, they learned this from N. Korea and Iran!!!

"GTP"
It Comes Down To The Balless President!
Turkey Didn`t Mess Around! Blew That Bitch Out Of The Sky!
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do you know the difference between international waters and 'air space'?

clearly not, b/c if you did, you wouldn't have posted that as a reason to kill.

Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
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There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).
 
Yo, they know they can do it, and nothing will happen, they learned this from N. Korea and Iran!!!

"GTP"
It Comes Down To The Balless President!
Turkey Didn`t Mess Around! Blew That Bitch Out Of The Sky!
View attachment 71512
do you know the difference between international waters and 'air space'?

clearly not, b/c if you did, you wouldn't have posted that as a reason to kill.

Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
View attachment 71584
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
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Wrong, Russia was not playing games, they were testing their most advanced weapon, one that leaves our Navy helpless and blind.

Why would they show us that even if they had it? And even if that report is true, that doesn't mean we can't counter it, just that the Cook didn't have that capability. Also there are the tactics, we should EMP any plane at a certain distance preempting it.

What you posted is an interesting discussion point, particularly if it is true. But there are still a lot of questions. It's doubtful the Russians leap frogged us with technology
Because their is no way that the Russians can know how effective their Khibini weapons system is, without the help of active Aegis radar systems to jam. Now you understand?
Which is as good a reason as any to shoot their jets down.

There is no good reason to act aggressively, speak softly and send a few of our assets into international waters for war games. That message is clear, the stick is big and the risk is minimal. Or, we can call the other side the axis of evil, fire our weapons and hope we have the army we want and need. Even if we do, the body bags will continue to be filled - do the initials IEP have some meaning to you?

History is replete with examples of a lesser force defeating a well equipped and trained professional army. The Hessian fought for the British against the American Revolutionary Force - how well did that turn out for the Brits and the Hessian?
Obviously you haven't a clue about what they're doing. They're probing for weaknesses. Show weakness and they will exploit it. Shoot them down and they try someone else. Russians don't cry over the lifeless bodies of their soldiers like we do. They figure it's worth the risk. They won't care if we shoot the dumb asses out of the sky.

You know how Russians feel about their dead? They feel the same way we do when one of our own is killed, only Pols (Dick Cheney) and other assholes like you pretend worthless death is heroic.
 
do you know the difference between international waters and 'air space'?

clearly not, b/c if you did, you wouldn't have posted that as a reason to kill.

Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
View attachment 71584
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
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No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.
 
Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
View attachment 71584
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
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No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.

Yo, the Draft is good for the Country? It will kill off more Socialist Democrats!!!

"GTP"
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Yo, they know they can do it, and nothing will happen, they learned this from N. Korea and Iran!!!

"GTP"
It Comes Down To The Balless President!
Turkey Didn`t Mess Around! Blew That Bitch Out Of The Sky!
View attachment 71512
do you know the difference between international waters and 'air space'?

clearly not, b/c if you did, you wouldn't have posted that as a reason to kill.

Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
View attachment 71584
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Ironic, once again you ware wrong on every point. The ONLY point of the Vietnam war that was right was the domino theory, every other aspect of the Vietnam war was fucked
 
Why would they show us that even if they had it? And even if that report is true, that doesn't mean we can't counter it, just that the Cook didn't have that capability. Also there are the tactics, we should EMP any plane at a certain distance preempting it.

What you posted is an interesting discussion point, particularly if it is true. But there are still a lot of questions. It's doubtful the Russians leap frogged us with technology
Because their is no way that the Russians can know how effective their Khibini weapons system is, without the help of active Aegis radar systems to jam. Now you understand?
Which is as good a reason as any to shoot their jets down.

There is no good reason to act aggressively, speak softly and send a few of our assets into international waters for war games. That message is clear, the stick is big and the risk is minimal. Or, we can call the other side the axis of evil, fire our weapons and hope we have the army we want and need. Even if we do, the body bags will continue to be filled - do the initials IEP have some meaning to you?

History is replete with examples of a lesser force defeating a well equipped and trained professional army. The Hessian fought for the British against the American Revolutionary Force - how well did that turn out for the Brits and the Hessian?
Obviously you haven't a clue about what they're doing. They're probing for weaknesses. Show weakness and they will exploit it. Shoot them down and they try someone else. Russians don't cry over the lifeless bodies of their soldiers like we do. They figure it's worth the risk. They won't care if we shoot the dumb asses out of the sky.

You know how Russians feel about their dead? They feel the same way we do when one of our own is killed, only Pols (Dick Cheney) and other assholes like you pretend worthless death is heroic.

Gawd you are stupid. No, they don't ...
 
Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
View attachment 71584
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
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No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.

The Soviet Union didn't want to take the world a country at a time? You're functionally retarded. And then you turn around and support Obama. You're beyond "functionally" retarded, you're just retarded
 
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
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No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.

Yo, the Draft is good for the Country? It will kill off more Socialist Democrats!!!

"GTP"
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That would be true if liberals had integrity, but on the battle field, they suddenly grasp survival
 
No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.
Involuntary servitude, what a novel concept.
 
I see the fear mongering and Political Grand Standing is still at work in this country............

Back in the days of the Good Old Cold War..........this was common..........happened.........

Nobody gave a shit.......it was all just 2 countries teasing each other. I watched a Bear fly right over our ship. It reved it's engine right over the mast.........looked straight up at it............We flipped them the bird and laughed it off.........

A Mig tried to break the sound barrier near us.......didn't time it so well........but he got the Sonic Boom a little late...........

IT WAS NOTHING............Just another day at the office.......

Now IT'S........WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE..............

Jesus...............this country has turned into a Lunatic Fringe.

Well actually these fly bys are not common, this is Putin showing that Obama and America is weak.

Putin is showing that he has the strength and that the world should rally behind him and Russia.

If we had shot down those planes, we would have shown that these tactics are no longer tolerated.

But Putin knows that Obama will do nothing. Next he will do missile drills and test his warships very close to ours. Just to show how weak the Americans have become.

Granted this is nothing more than a Pissing contest, right now Putin is winning that contest..


We planted our warship an hour's drive by US freeway standards away from an important Russian base.

Putin showed the world how asceered we are how exactly? When Russian warships start steaming up the Hudson you may have a point..moron.

Just proving that Obama is a weak leader and no here did I say scared.. moron..

Putin is showing the world he is the stronger leader.
 
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
View attachment 71804

No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.

Yo, the Draft is good for the Country? It will kill off more Socialist Democrats!!!

"GTP"
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So who is your hero, which mass murdering despot do you idolize?
 
It's typical Obama Administration nonsense. "We could have shot down the jet". Um...yeah...but you didn't. Instead, once again you illustrated to the world what an impotent, limp-wristed administration we have.
 
can't believe how murderously bloodthirsty some people are.

these are the nutless pussies that have this sign out front

i


It proves how badass they aren't
So in your infinite wisdom, people who want to enforce the law and prevent trespassing on their property are "pussies". Boy, if that's not some vintage "liberal logic". If you adhere to and uphold the law, you are <insert vulgar insult here>.

You do realize that trespassing is illegal...don't you? And I have a right to my private property.
 
I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

A few days ago, the President didn’t get blame/credit for the military actions. You should pick a position and stick with it little boy.

Explain:

Policy: Obama authorized the operation to get bin Laden, he didn't find or get bin Laden.

Baltic: Obama approved the ROEs that lead to our response in the Baltic, he didn't actually fly a plane or engage the Russians.

I didn't criticize O for bin Laden, just said he doesn't get credit for getting him, the military did the work. Sure, he approved it. Just like he approved the ROEs in the Baltic. You're seeing a different positions in those ... where ... sweet girl?

He does something, he gets no credit.
He doesn’t do something, he gets full blame and is called “spineless”.

Shooting down the Jet would have done what exactly…. Nothing. Can you at least admit that? Of course you can’t.
 
I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

A few days ago, the President didn’t get blame/credit for the military actions. You should pick a position and stick with it little boy.

Explain:

Policy: Obama authorized the operation to get bin Laden, he didn't find or get bin Laden.

Baltic: Obama approved the ROEs that lead to our response in the Baltic, he didn't actually fly a plane or engage the Russians.

I didn't criticize O for bin Laden, just said he doesn't get credit for getting him, the military did the work. Sure, he approved it. Just like he approved the ROEs in the Baltic. You're seeing a different positions in those ... where ... sweet girl?

He does something, he gets no credit.
He doesn’t do something, he gets full blame and is called “spineless”.

Shooting down the Jet would have done what exactly…. Nothing. Can you at least admit that? Of course you can’t.
It would have brought down two Russian planes. On top of that, it would have made it very clear to the entire world that the U.S. will not be intimidated and is not to be messed with.

Turkey did it. They shot down a Russian plane. Do you know what Putin did in response? Absolutely nothing. Wet himself like a little girl and then stayed the hell away from Turkey from that point on. That's how you handle people like Putin.
 
I say hell yeah, this was pure Russian aggression. Putin is just laughing at us and our spineless wuss of a President. This isn't the endless games our militaries play, he crossed the line. And he did it on purpose to embarrass us. And it worked, our spineless President again showed what he is. No wonder the world doesn't take us seriously

A few days ago, the President didn’t get blame/credit for the military actions. You should pick a position and stick with it little boy.

Explain:

Policy: Obama authorized the operation to get bin Laden, he didn't find or get bin Laden.

Baltic: Obama approved the ROEs that lead to our response in the Baltic, he didn't actually fly a plane or engage the Russians.

I didn't criticize O for bin Laden, just said he doesn't get credit for getting him, the military did the work. Sure, he approved it. Just like he approved the ROEs in the Baltic. You're seeing a different positions in those ... where ... sweet girl?

He does something, he gets no credit.
He doesn’t do something, he gets full blame and is called “spineless”.

Shooting down the Jet would have done what exactly…. Nothing. Can you at least admit that? Of course you can’t.
It would have brought down two Russian planes. On top of that, it would have made it very clear to the entire world that the U.S. will not be intimidated and is not to be messed with.

Turkey did it. They shot down a Russian plane. Do you know what Putin did in response? Absolutely nothing. Wet himself like a little girl and then stayed the hell away from Turkey from that point on. That's how you handle people like Putin.

I doubt war with Turkey is in Putin’s grand scheme. I’m not sure I can say the same about a confrontation with the US.
 
Yo, it`s called AGGRESSION, don`t matter if it`s International Waters, or a Countries Air Space? Now, take them Two Thumbs, stick them up your ass, and rotate!!!

"GTP"
Shoot The Bitch Down!!!
View attachment 71584
There's a recruiting station near you rambo

man the fuck up and demand front line combat


really, you assbags have no reason to call for the killing of another.

So just to be clear, you've volunteered for every military engagement you supported, that's your standard. So did you volunteer to attack al Qaeda after 9/11? Or did you oppose retaliating?

Grow up and make real arguments, Nevil

Speaking for myself, I enlisted in the Navy in February 1967 and by the time I separated from AD, I realized how fuck up was the Domino Theory and how easily members of Congress put us in harms way - D's and R's, and POTUS, the D (LBJ) and the R (RMN).

Yo, I say bring the Draft back, like you faced! We wouldn`t have all of these Protesters running around, and maybe, just maybe? The Army might make honest men out of them!!! And make a Draft for the Skanks who don`t have a Clue!!! They can shine the boots, and clean weapons, and cook!!!

"GTP"
View attachment 71804

No, we do not need a draft, we need compulsory national service. Not everyone one is fit for combat, or willing to kill another person's kid 'cause some Congress Critter says that's the patriotic thing to do.

Had I known the Domino Theory was what is was (a lie!) I would have enlisted in the Coast Guard and spent my enlistment trained to save lives, not being trained to take lives.
No, we do not. Nothing is more counter to the idea of freedom and the free exchange of ideas than mandatory service to anything including the nation itself.
 

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