Major Medical Journal Recommends Hydroxychloroquine as Treatment for COVID-19

Did you even read the Just the News article?
Responsible journalists link to their sources.
Is there a link to the American journal of Epidemiology' s study
What else can explain your macabre refusal to admit the facts about hydroxychloroquine?
In a world full of bullshit extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
We have to let physicians employing good clinical judgement use it and informed patients choose it.
the blowback and lies about HCQ absolutely proves that a) there is an agenda and b) the American press is the enemy of the people
Those zinc ions raise the ph level inside your cells, thus slowing down the replication of the virus
The two limited clinical trials that have been held did not produce more favorable results. WHO has suspended their clinical trials but our own NIH is proceeding with theirs
Double-blind controlled clinical trials are being suspended because, just as I predicted in another thread, the mounting evidence of the effectiveness of HCQ has precluded them.

exactly Muhammed

HCQ is homeopathic , cheap, effective

the pharmacabal can't havethat !

the proof is historic



~S~
 
The new issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology not only recommends using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 but argues that some news outlets have ignored the facts about the drug's effectiveness. The journal argues that hydroxychloroquine should "be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe." The journal says that there is evidence that hydroxychloroquine, when used with the antibiotic azithromycin, is an effective treatment if used in the early stages of infection. The most compelling argument, the journal says, is how hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin reduces the rate of mortality.

The journal also addresses the claim that hydroxychloroquine causes cardiac arrhythmia, noting that this side effect is rare and that the drug's effectiveness in reducing mortality far outweighs the risk of this rare side effect.

Here is an article from the Just the News website on this development:


Here's the link to the journal's article itself:


And here's the abstract that the journal provides on the article:

More than 1.6 million Americans have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and >10 times that number carry antibodies to it. High-risk patients presenting with progressing symptomatic disease have only hospitalization treatment with its high mortality. An outpatient treatment that prevents hospitalization is desperately needed. Two candidate medications have been widely discussed: remdesivir, and hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin. Remdesivir has shown mild effectiveness in hospitalized inpatients, but no trials have been registered in outpatients. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease. Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe.

This isn't a study, it's an opinion piece. The Lancet was an actual study with 100,000 patients, 30% of whom died with the drug.
 
Good grief, it is just amazing to see liberals grasp at any straw to avoid admitting that there is an effective treatment for COVID-19. Their replies suggest that they're not even bothering to read the Just the News article on the AJOE article, much less the AJOE article itself.

Again, liberals, is it just that you want as many COVID-19 deaths as possible because you think this will somehow help you beat Trump in November? What else can explain your macabre refusal to admit the facts about hydroxychloroquine? What do you say to the THOUSANDS of people who have been cured by the drug? They're all lying?

Your link says that trials will not be finalized until September. You're 3 months early in proclaiming it's a success--according to your article.

Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment? They felt it too dangerous to continue using the drug.

Also, this guy seems to be saying that outpatient treatment should continue even though the CDC has stipulated that this drug should NOT be prescribed outside of an in-patient hospital setting precisely because of the bad outcomes in so many patients.
 
Good grief, it is just amazing to see liberals grasp at any straw to avoid admitting that there is an effective treatment for COVID-19. Their replies suggest that they're not even bothering to read the Just the News article on the AJOE article, much less the AJOE article itself.

Again, liberals, is it just that you want as many COVID-19 deaths as possible because you think this will somehow help you beat Trump in November? What else can explain your macabre refusal to admit the facts about hydroxychloroquine? What do you say to the THOUSANDS of people who have been cured by the drug? They're all lying?

Your link says that trials will not be finalized until September. You're 3 months early in proclaiming it's a success--according to your article.

Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment? They felt it too dangerous to continue using the drug.

Also, this guy seems to be saying that outpatient treatment should continue even though the CDC has stipulated that this drug should NOT be prescribed outside of an in-patient hospital setting precisely because of the bad outcomes in so many patients.
Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment?

No. The drug is safe. It has been around for decades and is used on thousands of people every day. You are just so stupid you fall for fake news every single day.
 

"Some 36% of respondents said they would be less willing to take a vaccine if U.S. President Donald Trump said it was safe, compared with only 14% who would be more interested. "

Yes, TDS really is that strong. Cite as many studies as you would like, the shear fact that Trump has said good things about Hydroxychloroquine means that it MUST be bad no matter what.
 
The new issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology not only recommends using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 but argues that some news outlets have ignored the facts about the drug's effectiveness. The journal argues that hydroxychloroquine should be "be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe." The journal says that there is evidence that hydroxychloroquine, when used with the antibiotic azithromycin, is an effective treatment if used in the early stages of infection. The most compelling argument, the journal says, is how hydroxycholoroquine plus azithromycin reduces the rate of mortality.

The journal also addresses the claim that hydroxychloroquine causes cardiac arrhythmia, noting that this side effect is rare and that the drug's effectiveness in reducing mortality far outweighs the risk of this rare side effect.

Here is an article from the Just the News website on this development:

Is there a link to the American journal of Epidemiology' s study, so we can read it, instead of an opinion piece?

It is not "an opinion piece"! Did you even read it? It is a report on the journal's article! I'm sorry that this good news upsets you liberals so much. I've updated the OP to include the link to the journal's article itself--you'll see that the Just the News article accurately reports on the journal's article.
It is an opinion piece. It does not cite any study it is based up, but rather is a review of previous research. That's not a criticism, but it is what it is. It's NOT A STUDY. And doesn't purport to be, and you should not misrepresent it as being the "journal's opinion"

"In an ideal world, randomized double-blinded controlled clinical trials establish evidence for the relative degree of benefit, and if large enough, for estimates of the frequencies of adverse events. These trials take time to conduct …. page 4

"In reviewing all available evidence, I will show that HCQ+AZ and HCQ+doxycycline are generally safe for short-term use in the early treatment of most symptomatic high-risk outpatients, where not contraindicated, and that they are effective in preventing hospitalization for the overwhelming majority of such patients. If these combined medications become standard-of-care, they are likely to save an enormous number of lives that would otherwise be lost to this endemic disease." page 7.

And who are these "high risk" out patients? "
the key to returning society toward normal functioning and to preventing huge loss of life, especially among older individuals, people with comorbidities, African Americans and is a safe, effective and proactive outpatient treatment that prevents hospitalization in the first place. page 4.

And note the author also would not treat anyone with a history or indication of heart issues
 
Sounds like an opinion piece rather than the results of some kind of study. Hard to tell since this article fails to link to the actual article in the actual journal.


I found the original article.

https://watermark.silverchair.com/kwaa093.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAoQwggKABgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggJxMIICbQIBADCCAmYGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMS4mbhWkdOOk8nh1_AgEQgIICNz4w_H0qnh9e_DSkoIcU6ZRjQ_cPq6duGR3SW4h3oQYmU7O1TfXSdjNttN95yAq5uwb8AaWqQ43v3XC5uJbh7dg5LWZEaa6fBI-lsTbxdOI6uw_ZtXtHOJFkm6xwnlxdzmbvxf3yeQ_PkF2unCHqZT-NenjzuJh8E5Gu1b4sZojhq0oGuldUVdc0oEJDYM3AJ0Zsygzp2jAXVFWzKqJkJS1MDxiw5NCZg7gDfkOw5RPcqIouesWwjPa3wl09ELnWa5q3rEGLu-e4snV4To0UetRGI6Lq0rraXdASX9fa9DJDixPrsKYXc_ofRjrQX7b-IrukOD-Xge1VYUjolG-lUzVhKCa8wmMVZ3gH0i5vTRI9pWGLX0_qSE5qmg2mIWJxnTXuCXh1QnXCjbBpn6Hv8PwkHDO5p-FdUG8EHpWCRR07s5_qVijLKw0yrN3XCbJnk2hWAejIFD--DjIGM3ZPJJzPJXiXt699QBdQ2rF0tFPKgi7CXbBYC-FIja_XnYVyGvkdxx3tAju9G-hNfUsnDBGRYkXEPakLw0tv67EwsJC9U7xKDRRY1YL1tc7hIoIiGYyNGM4qYLXzl2-NPJzgee1UeO9Ixc_v-IjrJ7lKrwnz2OR9B3lZBoR0RiSDFklHIoOh_jqdMIPJPVYW6Lhtv0_IdcLbbGmHHA8ts336dD213VzljOdxwipmJ0wFLuBXyzyToPQ95F1VB7UYk1X21cZRB5vT_SW99HlaH-qcOuLl816625rG2Q

Basically: "In reviewing all available evidence, I will show that HCQ+AZ and HCQ+doxycycline are generally safe for short-term use in the early treatment of most symptomatic high-risk outpatients, where not contraindicated, and that they are effective in preventing hospitalization for the overwhelming majority of such patients. If these combined medications become standard-of-care,they are likely to save an enormous number of lives that would otherwise be lost to this endemic disease."

Doxycycline is a freaking wonder drug, I can speak to that first hand. It is used to treat Lyme Disease, most commonly.
It seems the hydroxy acts as some sort of agent for AZ and doxycycline, but not as a standalone treatment.
So this could be good news! I hope this guy is right.
 
the conclusion of the medical opinion piece:

"Until we have quantitative evidence for the utility and safety of other medications for preventing hospitalization and mortality in high-risk Covid-19 outpatients, the urgency of current mass mortality requires an immediate application of the best that we have available, even if knowledge is imperfect and even if yet unproven to the standards of double-blinded RCTs. This problem will get even worse as states and cities yield tothe acute pressure at this moment to begin lifting stay-at-home restrictions and even more people becomeinfected. Some people will have contraindicationsand will need other agents for treatment or to remain in isolation. But for the great majority, I conclude that HCQ+AZ and HCQ+doxycycline, preferably with zinc can be this outpatient treatment, at least until we find or add something better, whether that could be remdesivir or something else.

It is our obligation not to stand by, just “carefully watching,”as the old and infirm and inner city of us are killed by this disease and our economy is destroyed by it and we have nothing to offer except high-mortality hospital treatment. We have a solution, imperfect, to attempt to deal with the disease. We have to let physicians employing good clinical judgement use it and informed patients choose it. There is a small chance that it may not work. But the urgency demands that we at least start to take that risk and evaluate what happens, and if our situation does not improve we can stop it, but we will know that we did everything thatwe could instead of sitting by and letting hundreds of thousands die because we did not have the courage to act according to our rational calculations."

he basically advocates for a hail mary, because nothing else works.
Yeah, a hail mary for those socio econ groups who STATISCALLY have a greater chance of dying once they show covid symptoms than who would die from hydroxy. Unfortunately, I don't see where we have established those two statistics. And the author is attempting to use statistics from other countries. In the US we've had a pretty low mortality rate that compared to other countries. Thank god for the docs and nurses
 
the conclusion of the medical opinion piece:

"Until we have quantitative evidence for the utility and safety of other medications for preventing hospitalization and mortality in high-risk Covid-19 outpatients, the urgency of current mass mortality requires an immediate application of the best that we have available, even if knowledge is imperfect and even if yet unproven to the standards of double-blinded RCTs. This problem will get even worse as states and cities yield tothe acute pressure at this moment to begin lifting stay-at-home restrictions and even more people becomeinfected. Some people will have contraindicationsand will need other agents for treatment or to remain in isolation. But for the great majority, I conclude that HCQ+AZ and HCQ+doxycycline, preferably with zinc can be this outpatient treatment, at least until we find or add something better, whether that could be remdesivir or something else.

It is our obligation not to stand by, just “carefully watching,”as the old and infirm and inner city of us are killed by this disease and our economy is destroyed by it and we have nothing to offer except high-mortality hospital treatment. We have a solution, imperfect, to attempt to deal with the disease. We have to let physicians employing good clinical judgement use it and informed patients choose it. There is a small chance that it may not work. But the urgency demands that we at least start to take that risk and evaluate what happens, and if our situation does not improve we can stop it, but we will know that we did everything thatwe could instead of sitting by and letting hundreds of thousands die because we did not have the courage to act according to our rational calculations."

he basically advocates for a hail mary, because nothing else works.
Yeah, a hail mary for those socio econ groups who STATISCALLY have a greater chance of dying once they show covid symptoms than who would die from hydroxy. Unfortunately, I don't see where we have established those two statistics. And the author is attempting to use statistics from other countries. In the US we've had a pretty low mortality rate that compared to other countries. Thank god for the docs and nurses
it is a pretty wild paper. i guess trumptards haven't read his death toll predictions. lol
 
The new issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology not only recommends using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 but argues that some news outlets have ignored the facts about the drug's effectiveness. The journal argues that hydroxychloroquine should "be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe." The journal says that there is evidence that hydroxychloroquine, when used with the antibiotic azithromycin, is an effective treatment if used in the early stages of infection. The most compelling argument, the journal says, is how hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin reduces the rate of mortality.

The journal also addresses the claim that hydroxychloroquine causes cardiac arrhythmia, noting that this side effect is rare and that the drug's effectiveness in reducing mortality far outweighs the risk of this rare side effect.

Here is an article from the Just the News website on this development:


Here's the link to the journal's article itself:


And here's the abstract that the journal provides on the article:

More than 1.6 million Americans have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and >10 times that number carry antibodies to it. High-risk patients presenting with progressing symptomatic disease have only hospitalization treatment with its high mortality. An outpatient treatment that prevents hospitalization is desperately needed. Two candidate medications have been widely discussed: remdesivir, and hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin. Remdesivir has shown mild effectiveness in hospitalized inpatients, but no trials have been registered in outpatients. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease. Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe.

This isn't a study, it's an opinion piece. The Lancet was an actual study with 100,000 patients, 30% of whom died with the drug.

Anything, any reach, any distortion but the truth, hey? You still have not read Dr. Risch's article, have you? If you would bother to read the article, you would discover that one of Dr. Risch's main points is that inpatient studies, such as the Lancet study, are irrelevant to hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness when used in the early stages of infection. The Lancet study considered only people who had been hospitalized for COVID-19. Even the French study found that in such cases, HCQ only had a 35% success rate. But, as Dr. Risch points out, when HCQ is used on an outpatient basis, i.e., in the early stages of infection, it has a very high success rate. The French study reported a success rate of between 93% and 97% when used in the early stages of infection.

I realize that you and other liberals *want* more people to die from COVID-19 and *want* to keep people under lockdown as long as possible because you think/hope that these events will help defeat Donald Trump. But I wanted to refute your erroneous appeal to the Lancet study anyway, for the sake of other readers.
 
Good grief, it is just amazing to see liberals grasp at any straw to avoid admitting that there is an effective treatment for COVID-19. Their replies suggest that they're not even bothering to read the Just the News article on the AJOE article, much less the AJOE article itself.

Again, liberals, is it just that you want as many COVID-19 deaths as possible because you think this will somehow help you beat Trump in November? What else can explain your macabre refusal to admit the facts about hydroxychloroquine? What do you say to the THOUSANDS of people who have been cured by the drug? They're all lying?

Your link says that trials will not be finalized until September. You're 3 months early in proclaiming it's a success--according to your article.

Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment? They felt it too dangerous to continue using the drug.

Also, this guy seems to be saying that outpatient treatment should continue even though the CDC has stipulated that this drug should NOT be prescribed outside of an in-patient hospital setting precisely because of the bad outcomes in so many patients.
Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment?

No. The drug is safe. It has been around for decades and is used on thousands of people every day. You are just so stupid you fall for fake news every single day.

The drug is safe for people with malaria and lupus. It's KILLING people with covid19.

When drug trials are suspended because the trial drug is killing 29% of the patients using it, it's not safe for those with covid19. Hydroxychloroquine has previously been tried with SARS and MERS, both covid19 related viruses, and it was ineffective in treating those viruses too.

 
Keep waving that flag and staying in line

What - keep telling the truth about the real studies? Why are you promoting a drug that is killing people? Are 106,000 dead Americans not enough? The rest of the world has wisely stopped using this killing drug.

Why are Donald Trump and his cultist following promoting drugs, practices, and policies that are designed to kill as many Americans as is humanly possible? Why are they ignoring the scientists who have save so many lives in other countries around the world.
 
Good grief, it is just amazing to see liberals grasp at any straw to avoid admitting that there is an effective treatment for COVID-19. Their replies suggest that they're not even bothering to read the Just the News article on the AJOE article, much less the AJOE article itself.

Again, liberals, is it just that you want as many COVID-19 deaths as possible because you think this will somehow help you beat Trump in November? What else can explain your macabre refusal to admit the facts about hydroxychloroquine? What do you say to the THOUSANDS of people who have been cured by the drug? They're all lying?

Your link says that trials will not be finalized until September. You're 3 months early in proclaiming it's a success--according to your article.

Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment? They felt it too dangerous to continue using the drug.

Also, this guy seems to be saying that outpatient treatment should continue even though the CDC has stipulated that this drug should NOT be prescribed outside of an in-patient hospital setting precisely because of the bad outcomes in so many patients.
Weren't nearly all of the clinical trials suspended because of the alarming amounts of death in those receiving the treatment?

No. The drug is safe. It has been around for decades and is used on thousands of people every day. You are just so stupid you fall for fake news every single day.

The drug is safe for people with malaria and lupus. It's KILLING people with covid19.

When drug trials are suspended because the trial drug is killing 29% of the patients using it, it's not safe for those with covid19. Hydroxychloroquine has previously been tried with SARS and MERS, both covid19 related viruses, and it was ineffective in treating those viruses too.

No stupid. It is safe for people when administered in the correct dosage. What you are treating has no bearing on how safe the drug is, idiot.
 
Keep waving that flag and staying in line

What - keep telling the truth about the real studies? Why are you promoting a drug that is killing people? Are 106,000 dead Americans not enough? The rest of the world has wisely stopped using this killing drug.

Why are Donald Trump and his cultist following promoting drugs, practices, and policies that are designed to kill as many Americans as is humanly possible? Why are they ignoring the scientists who have save so many lives in other countries around the world.
This drug hasn't killed 106,000 Americans you raving lunatic.
 
The new issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology not only recommends using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 but argues that some news outlets have ignored the facts about the drug's effectiveness. The journal argues that hydroxychloroquine should "be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe." The journal says that there is evidence that hydroxychloroquine, when used with the antibiotic azithromycin, is an effective treatment if used in the early stages of infection. The most compelling argument, the journal says, is how hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin reduces the rate of mortality.

The journal also addresses the claim that hydroxychloroquine causes cardiac arrhythmia, noting that this side effect is rare and that the drug's effectiveness in reducing mortality far outweighs the risk of this rare side effect.

Here is an article from the Just the News website on this development:


Here's the link to the journal's article itself:


And here's the abstract that the journal provides on the article:

More than 1.6 million Americans have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and >10 times that number carry antibodies to it. High-risk patients presenting with progressing symptomatic disease have only hospitalization treatment with its high mortality. An outpatient treatment that prevents hospitalization is desperately needed. Two candidate medications have been widely discussed: remdesivir, and hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin. Remdesivir has shown mild effectiveness in hospitalized inpatients, but no trials have been registered in outpatients. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease. Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe.


Silly, silly poster.........what do you not understand? President Trump mentioned that he thought Hydroxychloroquine might work, was hopeful that it would..........so right there is evidence that the drug not only can't work, but in fact, if it does actually work we should arrest anyone who uses it...........the Bad Orange Man said something positive about it....so screw your medical journal......the Bad Orange Man said something nice about it......what do you not understand?
 
Keep waving that flag and staying in line

What - keep telling the truth about the real studies? Why are you promoting a drug that is killing people? Are 106,000 dead Americans not enough? The rest of the world has wisely stopped using this killing drug.

Why are Donald Trump and his cultist following promoting drugs, practices, and policies that are designed to kill as many Americans as is humanly possible? Why are they ignoring the scientists who have save so many lives in other countries around the world.
This drug hasn't killed 106,000 Americans you raving lunatic.
It's likely killed zero. Your doctors are incompetent assholes
 
Democrats can not be permitted to accept hydroxychloroquine as a treatment. They must be encouraged to reject it.
 
The marxist Dim shitstains have dug their heels in on this one. They'd rather die than take hydroxy....

Think about it for a minute.... I'm good with that.
No, no, a month or so ago, I got Care to admit that if push came to shove with her life or death, that she would use it.
With berg, if I remember correctly, would not answer the question one way or another. IMO opinion that was an admission
that he would
 
The marxist Dim shitstains have dug their heels in on this one. They'd rather die than take hydroxy....
You have a better chance of living if you don't take it.

Oops! berg80

 

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