Narrative Fail: 15 Days After Lockdown Ease, Georgia Sees Lowest Day Of COVID Hospitalizations

[bripat9643]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

View attachment 334712

Over all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.

Health professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expecting

LOL

They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.

You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.

Really? How does it prove that?

You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.

We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.

We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.

You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.

I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.

All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.

Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.

I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.

I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.

Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.

No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.

They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.

Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.

Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.

Elective surgeries have been canceled.

The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.

Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.

You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........

Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.

I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.

Yeah, doctors are pretty fucking stupid about stuff like that. I've had doctors tell me to retire. How does the moron suppose I'm going to pay his bill if I don't have a job.

 

[FA_Q2]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

View attachment 334712

Fauci has been wrong about everything, moron.

No he hasn’t. But Trump has. So every time Trump fucks things up, things get worse.

60,000 to 100,000 deaths in one year, if you did everything right. Well you blew by that number in 6 weeks.

Right now, you’re looking at 300,000 dead Americans, if nobody else gets sick. Just from those already dead and the people who are currently sick.

Where the fuck are you getting these "This is definitely how many deaths there would have been if . . ." numbers from? Your crystal ball? How the fuck do you know what would or wouldn't have happened in a world that never actually existed?

Where am I getting my numbers from?

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

The same place I've been getting them since early March.

Current rate of deaths worldwide 15% of closed cases.

Current rate of death in the USA based on 384,440 closed cases: 22%. Active cases 1,032,958 cases. 22% of active cases 227,250 more deaths, if no one else gets sick. That will bring your total to over 300,000 deaths.

Even if the USA lowers its rate of death to the world level of 15%, that's still 154,943 more American deaths, over and above the 84,000 who have already died. And both numbers are based on absolutely no one else getting the virus.

When the Trump Administration has released numbers, they have always released and touted the most optimistic lowest numbers possible. Then adjusted upwards when forced to. Now they're just desperate to down play the level of death anticipated.

When I said more than 100,000 Americans would die, people called me deranged. You'll hit 100,000 deaths by Memorial Day Weekend. Seriously, this has gone well beyond "horrific".

These numbers do not mean anything until the virus runs its course. No one anywhere thinks that we or anyone else on the planet is going to stop COVID, no matter when we open back up it will resume. There is not even a way to normalize the data itself considering that every nation is going to have it's own standards for counting cases and counting deaths.

It is unfortunate but the only real information we are going to get is going to be after the majority of people have been exposed and/or have contracted it.

 

[Dana7360]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

View attachment 334712

Over all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.

Health professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expecting

LOL

They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.

You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.

Really? How does it prove that?

You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.

We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.

We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.

You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.

I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.

All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.

Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.

I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.

I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.

Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.

No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.

They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.

Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.

Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.

Elective surgeries have been canceled.

The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.

Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.

You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........

Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.

I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.

You really need to go back and read who actually made that statement.

It wasn't me.

I was the person who said no doctor would say such a thing. I'm also the person who pointed out that hospitals and doctors offices aren't closed. They're essential so no doctor would be worrying if they had a job or not.

The person who actually stated that was lordbrowntrout.

I think you need to direct your reply to that person.

Not me.

 

[bripat9643]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

View attachment 334712

Over all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.

Health professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expecting

LOL

They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.

You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.

Really? How does it prove that?

You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.

We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.

We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.

You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.

I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.

All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.

Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.

I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.

I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.

Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.

No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.

They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.

Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.

Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.

Elective surgeries have been canceled.

The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.

Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.

You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........

Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.

I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.

You really need to go back and read who actually made that statement.

It wasn't me.

I was the person who said no doctor would say such a thing. I'm also the person who pointed out that hospitals and doctors offices aren't closed. They're essential so no doctor would be worrying if they had a job or not.

The person who actually stated that was lordbrowntrout.

I think you need to direct your reply to that person.

Not me.

I know an ER doctor who is losing his job, dumbass.

 

[FA_Q2]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Dr. Tony Fauci has yet to be correct about anything

The game is in its first inning and there is a long way to go, so listen to the people who have medical and scientific experience since their motives are not political.

The problem is that the 'experts' do not agree. Just testing requirements itself have ranged from 500,000 per day are necessary all the way up to 35,000,000.

How Many COVID-19 Tests Are ‘Needed’ to Reopen? - FactCheck.org

The Trump administration has repeatedly claimed that there are enough COVID-19 tests for states to begin reopening their economies. While that may be true for select locations, experts say more tests are needed, even if they don’t agree on a particular number.

www.factcheck.org

This is a singular data point and likely the simplest part of the response yet even there estimates range from one number to %70,000 higher. Even taking out the outliers the numbers range greatly.

This is one of the reasons that so few trust any of the experts, there are too many opposing statements out there. This is further complicated by the models showing how many people are likely to die being based on incomplete information many of which are based on nothing but current trend lines and curves. So far, the models have done little to predict anything at all. Of course, that is why the administration should be consolidating everything and sending out a singular message that people can trust but this admin is simply not capable of this. Even if they were, I don't think the political climate would allow them to do so anyway.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

View attachment 334712

Over all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.

Health professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expecting

LOL

They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.

You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.

Really? How does it prove that?

You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.

We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.

We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.

You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.

I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.

All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.

Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.

I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.

I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.

Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.

No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.

They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.

Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.

Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.

Elective surgeries have been canceled.

The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.

Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.

You mentioned previously that doctors you knew are not concerned of the CV. They are more concerned of having a job.........

Doctors I know will never say something like that. Health and well being of their patients are their concern. Job is worthless if you get sick. You can get a job later or go to welfare if needed but you cannot replace your life. That’s whats stake.

I’m in the medical instruments business. I can assure you that I know by far more doctors than you or anybody here. Hospitals are my customers.

You really need to go back and read who actually made that statement.

It wasn't me.

I was the person who said no doctor would say such a thing. I'm also the person who pointed out that hospitals and doctors offices aren't closed. They're essential so no doctor would be worrying if they had a job or not.

The person who actually stated that was lordbrowntrout.

I think you need to direct your reply to that person.

Not me.

Aww. He did and I responded back tht I know many doctors who aren't concerned over this virus. If your feelings are hurt on a messageboard, I can only imagine what the lib media and their covid propaganda machine are doing to your mind.

 

[WEATHER53]

Never in USAhistory have so few been able to control so many over so little. A short term nanny state bandaid leading to a much longer term much more serious infection of social and economic destruction.
Thank you feckless leaders.

 

[WEATHER53]

More testing right now is dog chasing tail in order to postpone making any useful, step forward actions

 

[OldLady]

These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.

That's because Covid 19 is a viral pneumonia. And of course doctors can distinguish the various types of pneumonia and isolate the Covid 19 virus.
I don't know where you get your news, but you should seek something different.

 

[WEATHER53]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

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Fauci has been wrong about everything, moron.

No he hasn’t. But Trump has. So every time Trump fucks things up, things get worse.

60,000 to 100,000 deaths in one year, if you did everything right. Well you blew by that number in 6 weeks.

Right now, you’re looking at 300,000 dead Americans, if nobody else gets sick. Just from those already dead and the people who are currently sick.

Where the fuck are you getting these "This is definitely how many deaths there would have been if . . ." numbers from? Your crystal ball? How the fuck do you know what would or wouldn't have happened in a world that never actually existed?

Where am I getting my numbers from?

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

The same place I've been getting them since early March.

Current rate of deaths worldwide 15% of closed cases.

Current rate of death in the USA based on 384,440 closed cases: 22%. Active cases 1,032,958 cases. 22% of active cases 227,250 more deaths, if no one else gets sick. That will bring your total to over 300,000 deaths.

Even if the USA lowers its rate of death to the world level of 15%, that's still 154,943 more American deaths, over and above the 84,000 who have already died. And both numbers are based on absolutely no one else getting the virus.

When the Trump Administration has released numbers, they have always released and touted the most optimistic lowest numbers possible. Then adjusted upwards when forced to. Now they're just desperate to down play the level of death anticipated.

When I said more than 100,000 Americans would die, people called me deranged. You'll hit 100,000 deaths by Memorial Day Weekend. Seriously, this has gone well beyond "horrific".

The problem with your fake high death percentages is that it includes only recovered and dead’s. There is a much larger number of pendings that should be included and when done so the percentage of deaths versus all positive cases, past and present, is around 1.6%

 

[Juicin]

These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.

That's because Covid 19 is a viral pneumonia. And of course doctors can distinguish the various types of pneumonia and isolate the Covid 19 virus.
I don't know where you get your news, but you should seek something different.

I linked you the CDC death tolls

They clearly state they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

It's really not that complex. We would normally call these deaths "pneumonia" deaths becuase of the symptoms.

You get a cold, then it turn into pneumonia and your life is at risk

Source: was born with asthma and clearly have a much better understanding of respiratory problems than you.

It's not the corona virus (aka cold...somtimes what we would call flu if you have a fever) we would normally say is the killer....It's the pneumonia

 

[bripat9643]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

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Fauci has been wrong about everything, moron.

No he hasn’t. But Trump has. So every time Trump fucks things up, things get worse.

60,000 to 100,000 deaths in one year, if you did everything right. Well you blew by that number in 6 weeks.

Right now, you’re looking at 300,000 dead Americans, if nobody else gets sick. Just from those already dead and the people who are currently sick.

Where the fuck are you getting these "This is definitely how many deaths there would have been if . . ." numbers from? Your crystal ball? How the fuck do you know what would or wouldn't have happened in a world that never actually existed?

Where am I getting my numbers from?

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

The same place I've been getting them since early March.

Current rate of deaths worldwide 15% of closed cases.

Current rate of death in the USA based on 384,440 closed cases: 22%. Active cases 1,032,958 cases. 22% of active cases 227,250 more deaths, if no one else gets sick. That will bring your total to over 300,000 deaths.

Even if the USA lowers its rate of death to the world level of 15%, that's still 154,943 more American deaths, over and above the 84,000 who have already died. And both numbers are based on absolutely no one else getting the virus.

When the Trump Administration has released numbers, they have always released and touted the most optimistic lowest numbers possible. Then adjusted upwards when forced to. Now they're just desperate to down play the level of death anticipated.

When I said more than 100,000 Americans would die, people called me deranged. You'll hit 100,000 deaths by Memorial Day Weekend. Seriously, this has gone well beyond "horrific".

The problem with your fake high death percentages is that it includes only recovered and dead’s. There is a much larger number of pendings that should be included and when done so the percentage of deaths versus all positive cases, past and present, is around 1.6%

It's far less than that. For every person who tests positive, there are 20-50 who never get tested and often they don't even know they have it. That means the true mortality rate is probably less than 0.1%

 

[OldLady]

These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.

That's because Covid 19 is a viral pneumonia. And of course doctors can distinguish the various types of pneumonia and isolate the Covid 19 virus.
I don't know where you get your news, but you should seek something different.

I linked you the CDC death tolls

They clearly state they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

It's really not that complex. We would normally call these deaths "pneumonia" deaths becuase of the symptoms.

You get a cold, then it turn into pneumonia and your life is at risk

Source: was born with asthma and clearly have a much better understanding of respiratory problems than you.

It's not the corona virus (aka cold...somtimes what we would call flu if you have a fever) we would normally say is the killer....It's the pneumonia

This is what your link says. I don't see where they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems. If you think it does, please copy and paste the relevant piece for me. It looks to me as if they're distinguishing between the flu and Covid just fine.

The provisional data presented on this page include the weekly provisional count of deaths in the United States due to COVID-19, deaths from all causes and percent of expected deaths (i.e., number of deaths received over number of deaths expected based on data from previous years), pneumonia deaths (excluding pneumonia deaths involving influenza), pneumonia deaths involving COVID-19, influenza deaths, and deaths involving pneumonia, influenza, or COVID-19; (a) by week ending date and (b) by specific jurisdictions.

 

[Juicin]

These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.

That's because Covid 19 is a viral pneumonia. And of course doctors can distinguish the various types of pneumonia and isolate the Covid 19 virus.
I don't know where you get your news, but you should seek something different.

I linked you the CDC death tolls

They clearly state they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

It's really not that complex. We would normally call these deaths "pneumonia" deaths becuase of the symptoms.

You get a cold, then it turn into pneumonia and your life is at risk

Source: was born with asthma and clearly have a much better understanding of respiratory problems than you.

It's not the corona virus (aka cold...somtimes what we would call flu if you have a fever) we would normally say is the killer....It's the pneumonia

This is what your link says. I don't see where they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems. If you think it does, please copy and paste the relevant piece for me. It looks to me as if they're distinguishing between the flu and Covid just fine.

The provisional data presented on this page include the weekly provisional count of deaths in the United States due to COVID-19, deaths from all causes and percent of expected deaths (i.e., number of deaths received over number of deaths expected based on data from previous years), pneumonia deaths (excluding pneumonia deaths involving influenza), pneumonia deaths involving COVID-19, influenza deaths, and deaths involving pneumonia, influenza, or COVID-19; (a) by week ending date and (b) by specific jurisdictions.

There are asterisks underneath the table....

3Pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.


4Influenza death counts include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.


5Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09-18.9.



We normally have a massive amount of "pneumonia" deaths a year. Which is caused by flu season

This year they're just labeling them differently because tehre is a new cold....

Cause of death - flu seems to be rarely written on coroner's reports. Or in this case covid is really a cold, but it gives you a fever so it's symptoms are more flu like. Last year all these deaths would have gone under "pneumonia". There is no way to connect covid 19 and these deaths without extensive blood testing no one is doing to confirm these deaths.

And even then you'd only be confident they had the virus....not that it was the direct cause of death.

So we're using flawed tests in a nation that loses 80k a year to respiratory problems anyway. Those other conditions didn't just magically disappear. Clearly some % of the death toll isn't covid-19 related. How much we don't know.

 

[OldLady]

These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.

That's because Covid 19 is a viral pneumonia. And of course doctors can distinguish the various types of pneumonia and isolate the Covid 19 virus.
I don't know where you get your news, but you should seek something different.

I linked you the CDC death tolls

They clearly state they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

It's really not that complex. We would normally call these deaths "pneumonia" deaths becuase of the symptoms.

You get a cold, then it turn into pneumonia and your life is at risk

Source: was born with asthma and clearly have a much better understanding of respiratory problems than you.

It's not the corona virus (aka cold...somtimes what we would call flu if you have a fever) we would normally say is the killer....It's the pneumonia

This is what your link says. I don't see where they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems. If you think it does, please copy and paste the relevant piece for me. It looks to me as if they're distinguishing between the flu and Covid just fine.

The provisional data presented on this page include the weekly provisional count of deaths in the United States due to COVID-19, deaths from all causes and percent of expected deaths (i.e., number of deaths received over number of deaths expected based on data from previous years), pneumonia deaths (excluding pneumonia deaths involving influenza), pneumonia deaths involving COVID-19, influenza deaths, and deaths involving pneumonia, influenza, or COVID-19; (a) by week ending date and (b) by specific jurisdictions.

There are asterisks underneath the table....

3Pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.


4Influenza death counts include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.


5Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09-18.9.



We normally have a massive amount of "pneumonia" deaths a year. Which is caused by flu season

This year they're just labeling them differently because tehre is a new cold....

Cause of death - flu seems to be rarely written on coroner's reports. Or in this case covid is really a cold, but it gives you a fever so it's symptoms are more flu like. Last year all these deaths would have gone under "pneumonia". There is no way to connect covid 19 and these deaths without extensive blood testing no one is doing to confirm these deaths.

And even then you'd only be confident they had the virus....not that it was the direct cause of death.

So we're using flawed tests in a nation that loses 80k a year to respiratory problems anyway. Those other conditions didn't just magically disappear. Clearly some % of the death toll isn't covid-19 related. How much we don't know.

I'm no doctor or expert on any of this, but I have serious doubts about what you are saying. Let's leave it there. You believe what you want.

 

[Juicin]

These people are dying of "pneumonia" like symptoms. Doctors have no ability to distinguish this respiratory problem from another.

That's because Covid 19 is a viral pneumonia. And of course doctors can distinguish the various types of pneumonia and isolate the Covid 19 virus.
I don't know where you get your news, but you should seek something different.

I linked you the CDC death tolls

They clearly state they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

It's really not that complex. We would normally call these deaths "pneumonia" deaths becuase of the symptoms.

You get a cold, then it turn into pneumonia and your life is at risk

Source: was born with asthma and clearly have a much better understanding of respiratory problems than you.

It's not the corona virus (aka cold...somtimes what we would call flu if you have a fever) we would normally say is the killer....It's the pneumonia

This is what your link says. I don't see where they can't distinguish between any of these respiratory problems. If you think it does, please copy and paste the relevant piece for me. It looks to me as if they're distinguishing between the flu and Covid just fine.

The provisional data presented on this page include the weekly provisional count of deaths in the United States due to COVID-19, deaths from all causes and percent of expected deaths (i.e., number of deaths received over number of deaths expected based on data from previous years), pneumonia deaths (excluding pneumonia deaths involving influenza), pneumonia deaths involving COVID-19, influenza deaths, and deaths involving pneumonia, influenza, or COVID-19; (a) by week ending date and (b) by specific jurisdictions.

There are asterisks underneath the table....

3Pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.


4Influenza death counts include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.


5Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09-18.9.



We normally have a massive amount of "pneumonia" deaths a year. Which is caused by flu season

This year they're just labeling them differently because tehre is a new cold....

Cause of death - flu seems to be rarely written on coroner's reports. Or in this case covid is really a cold, but it gives you a fever so it's symptoms are more flu like. Last year all these deaths would have gone under "pneumonia". There is no way to connect covid 19 and these deaths without extensive blood testing no one is doing to confirm these deaths.

And even then you'd only be confident they had the virus....not that it was the direct cause of death.

So we're using flawed tests in a nation that loses 80k a year to respiratory problems anyway. Those other conditions didn't just magically disappear. Clearly some % of the death toll isn't covid-19 related. How much we don't know.

I'm no doctor or expert on any of this, but I have serious doubts about what you are saying. Let's leave it there. You believe what you want.

Well like I said I have asthma...And while I'm not a medical professional most of my kin are or in related industries.

We had tens of thousands of pneumonia deaths last year. The count is nothing this year.....

What more do you need to know?

Clearly covid-19 exists and is causing problems. But there is no doubt the way we're processing the data is going to lead to over estimating risk rather than underestimating.

 

[Polishprince]

So we're using flawed tests in a nation that loses 80k a year to respiratory problems anyway. Those other conditions didn't just magically disappear. Clearly some % of the death toll isn't covid-19 related. How much we don't know.

I don't think that you can ever get a pretty count, but pneumonia is a huge killer among old timers and always has been. What we can do retrospectively is look at the number of deaths from pneumonia and other respiratory afflictions in 2020, and then compare them to the total number in 2019 and 2018. See what the real increase is due to COVID.

I haven't seen that much action in the local mortuaries or newspaper obits. Maybe its different somewhere else?

 

[Blues Man]

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Dr. Fauci is not wrong. Georgia just opened so give it a chance. South Korea had been closed and had very good results. Now they have opened and the virus has spiked.

Which is going to happen no matter how long you keep people locked inside.

The virus is not going away so whenever people start going out again there will be new cases.

Not necessarily whenever. As the virus has nowhere to go, it will eventually dissipate. Testing and vaccines are the answer, and all should wear face masks now, which is not happening due to Trump's unwillingness to wear a mask.
Do you Trump supporters realize that he does NOT know anything about medicine or science? Nada, niet, zappo
and yet he keeps dissing those who do know? Did you ever ask yourself why? He doesn't care about people since he is totally lacking in empathy, so it has to be political.

No it won't

Has influenza "dissipated"?

And FYI I didn't vote for Trump and am not much of a fan.

So don't go assigning political reasons for what I say when you have no fucking clue what my political leanings are.

The virus is in the environment and it will stay there just like the influenza virus, Rabies, Ebola and the countless others that exist.

The fact that most new cases in NY are among people who were staying home should tell you something.

Cuomo says it's 'shocking' most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home

Early look at data from 100 New York hospitals shows that 66% of new admissions related to the virus are people who were at home, Cuomo said.

www.cnbc.com

It is not about you, Gumby. It is all about Trump and his nefarious behavior, so don't flatter your fucking self. Influenza and this virus are 2 different animals so let's not compare. Will it stand around and wait for somebody to come outside? We must give it time, and we are not due to the pressure being put on the states by Trump.
What the New york cases tell me is that houses and apartments are one on top of another, people do go outside for a deep breath even if it is right outside their residences and may even have friends over to quarantine for a couple of hours together. I have seen it where I live, so don't use overly crowded New York as your example.

No Fuckstick you said to me "You Trump supporters" which I have highlighted in the quote tree above so you can't deny saying it.

And it doesn't matter where you are at this point. The minute people start returning to life as normal there will be new cases.

It isn't fucking rocket science.

And the entire goal of this stay home plan was not to prevent people from getting the virus it was to merely slow the contagion rate so as not to overwhelm our inadequate medical services.

So now this corona virus is in the environment and it will stay there and in all reality will be just another flu bug once enough people are exposed or vaccinated for it

The term "you Trump supporters" was referring to your believing that Trump is the second coming of Christ, and not the simple grifter that he is. He reacts for political reasons has no empathy for you or me, and he has no knowledge of science or medicine. You are an ignorant person and he is very aware of that when he froths at the mouth.

And how did you come up with the assumption I believe Trump is a god?

I'll repeat I didn't vote for Trump and I'm not much of a fan.

So in the future if you want to tell me what I said or what I believe then USE THE FUCKING QUOTE FUNCTION

Stop making shit up and attributing it to me so you can then argue against it and if you can't because you are a duplicitous sack of shit then don't fucking reply to me

Who you voted for is not the issue, nor do I care. Why don't you go back to high school and complete your education because you sound like a high school drop-out. Using the word "fuck" all the time puts you in the category of "low-life" and resolves nothing other than getting responses like mine.

Stop contradicting yourself.

You said I was a Trump voter so it's pretty fucking obvious it matters to you who you think I voted for.

And IDGAFUCK if you don't like my language

I find when dealing with lying pieces of shit like you that obscenities are the only thing that works. And maybe you should broaden your own education so you don't have to live in a world defined by the few pigeonholes you have to use in order to make sense of it all. You are a 2 dimensional thinker

So the next time you want to tell me what i said, what my political leanings are or any other thing about get your fucking facts straight and stop making shit up.

Your mouth is getting in the way of your brains-----again. And I believe that you are a Trump supporter because you cannot think. You are a follower, not a leader. There are 3 kinds of people in this world---Those who make things happen, those who wait for something to happen, and those who wonder what happened. Duh. Are you unemployed?

You're a fucking idiot

You made an assumption and I told you you were incorrect but then you keep saying the same thing over and over again

That tells me you are incapable of learning which tells me that you are incapable of understanding the world unless you can fit everything into little pigeonholes.

So I'll say it again I didn't vote for Trump and I am not a fan at all. Do you understand those words?

MAybe you should slow down and follow the words on the screen with your finger. You can even move your lips as you read if you have to. Really it's OK I won't think any less of you because I think so little of you now that it's impossible

 

[Billy_Bob]

More testing right now is dog chasing tail in order to postpone making any useful, step forward actions

BINGO!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

Testing is a fallacy as it looks at ONE POINT IN TIME vs ANOTHER POINT IN TIME... The virus will spread despite any attempt to stop it. Get on with life and protect the most vulnerable...

Testing at this point in the game is anecdotal at best..

 

[charwin95]

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Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

​

Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

​

Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

​

Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

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Over all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.

Health professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expecting

LOL

They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.

You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.

Really? How does it prove that?

You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.

We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.

We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.

You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.

I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.

All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.

Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.

All people with medical knowledge say it is only when a new virus first hits that it is really dangerous.
They all say we then develop herd immunity and it becomes much less significant.

ll that is true why have we not eliminated the flu death each year? CV-19 is very new to develop any kinds of immunity. Downplaying this virus has a very significant serious problem today and in the future.

Here's another nail in the shutdown coffin. I predict this shutdown will last only a few more weeks.

Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE​

​

In late April Dr. Tony Fauci made it clear he opposed the decision by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to lift the lockdown orders in his state. “If I were advising the governor, I would tell him he should be careful. Going ahead and leapfrogging into phases where you should not be … I would advise him not to do that.”​

​

But Dr. Fauci was wrong again. In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything? It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!​

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Fauci and the critics were all wrong. Today Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced on Saturday the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th and the lowest total of ventilators in use.​

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Today marks the lowest number of COVID-19 positive patients currently hospitalized statewide (1,203) since hospitals began reporting this data on April 8th.​

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Today also marks the lowest total of ventilators in use (897 with 1,945 available).​

Wrong. Fauci is right.

Number of new cases on May 9th: 419
Number of new cases on May 10th: 886

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Over all numbers will go hgher as more and more testing is done. The real metric of this disease are the numbers of new hosptializations and those have not climbed. So the majority of those being affected are those that have little or no symptoms when they get this disease.

Health professions in Ga are already building temporary hospitals to handle the surge they are expecting

LOL

They began expanding their capacity months ago. They understand that it will spike the cases to a certain level but as the population becomes immune to it the rate of infections will drop and the needs will also drop. Absent a vaccine there is only one way to beat a pathogen, its called herd immunity. Staying at home prolongs this process but you will still become infected. Its time to stop hiding from this virus and beat it. With 98% of the populace not having a problem with getting this virus and becoming immune we can protect those who are most at risk and still get on with life.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving herd immunity is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Not one shred of evidence exists proving the shutdown is a viable concept for this kind of virus.

Herd immunity, on the other hand, is a well established concept supported by centuries of empirical data.

You are 100% wrong and the exact opposite of your claims are fact. Empirical data accurately proves shutdowns and lockdowns work and if herd immunity for Corona viruses worked no one would ever get common colds, which are caused by a coronavirus. The reason is known to science. Some viruses, Coronaviruses included, are able to change and adapt.

Really? How does it prove that?

You're understanding is obviously wrong because herd immunity requires that a certain people contract the virus. I don't know how colds work, but we have flu every year or two because a new strain comes out every year or two. I believe the as me thing happens with colds, but they are much less serious so no one panics about it.

We fight yearly flu with vaccines. You are comfortable with giving all this life or death advice and opinions on COVID-19 and pandemics yet freely admit you know nothing abour the common cold. You even think the flu comes "every year or two"(your words).
People like you or anyone else with little medical knowledge should shut up and stop fantasizing about being scholarly and of high ranging intelligence. You are giving dangerous and poor advice and opinions. Think about it, you are advising on Coronavirus and admitting you know nothing about the common cold.

We fight yearly flu not very well, just FYI. Flu vaccines are far from 100% effective, even when the medical experts guess right about which strain of the flu will be dominant that season. In the years where they guess wrong, flu vaccines are as effective as just shooting people with distilled water.

You are comfortable talking about the wonders of lockdowns and how they "work" without telling us what "lockdowns working" actually means, and without telling us what purpose they actually serve if no vaccine is possible. You are sitting back and criticizing and complaining about how everyone else's plans and suggestions are impossible and dangerous, without offering anything solid yourself.

I rely on what medical experts say and promote. For some odd reason, I have more trust in them than politicians and partisan hacks. So, if doctors tell me not to do something and some politician tells me not to listen to the doctors, I will probably ignore the politicians.

All of the doctors that I know just aren't concerned. Theyre more concerned about having a job.

Then doctors you know are dumb to say something like that. I know lots of doctors and they will never say something like that.

I come from a family with a bunch of doctors. I'm the black sheep. I didn't become one or go into the medical field.

I know a ton of doctors and those who work in the medical field In my family and friends.

Not even ONE of them has ever said they aren't concerned with the virus and are more concerned with having a job.

No doctor would ever say such a thing. Ever.

They would say if they're seeing virus patients or not but never say they aren't concerned about it and more concerned about having a job.

Health care and doctors offices have not been closed. They are essential services. They have had to modify their offices for social distancing but that's about it.

Dentists aren't open but are working on an emergency cases basis.

Elective surgeries have been canceled.

The fact that the far right radical lying conservative added hoping they still have a job on the end of their lie, exposes the lie for what it is.

Heath care is essential services and aren't closed.

Crashing this economy over such idiocy as a weak virus is egregious and disturbing. The governors, state, local officials need to be held accountable for their utter disregard of the constitution.

Why are you mad? Why not blame your fake messiah who made the pandemic worse? I have nothing to do with it.
It’s true people need to got back to work but need practice precautions.

Im not mad. Trump isn't to blame for this virus. Some people need to be careful but the other 99 percent don't and the healthy should never be quarantined.

Trump mishandling of the pandemic is not acceptable especially when he downplayed this crisis. As late February 20 in his rally he called this a democrat new hoax. Didn’t do anything till mid March but very busy blaming and pointing fingers + playing golf.

How do you even know which one or not need to be quarantined? How do you even know which one is healthy? How do I know you will not infect me or me infecting others?

I understand these are severe that we have to go through but we don’t have that much choice. I think.

I’m very active person lots of activities. this is killing me. 2 weeks ago I have a fight with a cop parked by the beach. I lease a condo by the beach so I can get closer to my kids and their kids. A cop with his car parked right by the beach close to our compound. There’s no one there at the beach not a single soul. I asked him very nicely. I said son........ if I can just stand there and practice my (screams at certain high notes) voice. I’m not going to the water. I just need no more than 10 minutes to practice my (vocal cord) voice. He said NO. I looked at him. I told him THIS IS NOT GOING TO COST YOU. ARREST ME IF YOU WANT. And I just walked towards the beach and stand by the sand no more than 5 feet from the pavement. He was staring at me didn’t say anything. When I was done I passed by him and say Thank you.