November 22nd - JFK Assassination Day!

[Geaux4it]

The Kennedy's are slime balls of the highest magnitude

-Geaux

 

[Bfgrn]

Are you talking about John F. Kennedy, the President who proposed, passed and/or planned the following:

Medicare
Civil Rights
The War on Poverty
Raised the minimum wage
Increased Social Security benefits
Expanded unemployment and welfare benefits.
Used an Executive Order to provide federal employees with collective bargaining rights
Broadened scholarships and student loans.
Carried out the most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history
Funds for housing for the elderly were increased.




Kennedy s New Frontier ushistory.org


A big part of LBJ's Great Society was started by President Kennedy and the New Frontier.

Domestically, Kennedy continued in the tradition of liberal Democrats Roosevelt and Truman to some extent. He signed legislation raising the minimum wage and increasing Social Security benefits. He raised money for research into mental illness and allocated funds to develop impoverished rural areas. He showed approval for the civil rights movement by supporting James Meredith's attempt to enroll at the University of Mississippi and by ordering his Attorney General, brother Robert Kennedy, to protect the freedom riders in the South.

However, most of Kennedy's more revolutionary proposals languished in the conservative Congress. He wished to protect millions of acres of wilderness lands from developments, but the Congress refused. His efforts to provide federal funds to elementary and secondary schools were denied. His Medicare plan to provide health insurance for the nation's elderly failed to achieve the necessary support. Congress was dominated by a coalition of Republicans and conservative Southern Democrats who refused to expand the New Deal any further.

In his abbreviated Presidency, Kennedy failed to accomplish all he wanted domestically. But the ideas and proposals he supported survived his assassination. Medicare, federal support for education, and wilderness protection all became part of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

Most of what you listed Kennedy didn't even start let alone finish.

EVERYTHING I list Kennedy started. He was assassinated 1000 days into his administration.

your detachment from reality is actually breath taking.

Medicare
Civil Rights: You got to be freakin' kidding me. You act as if Kennedy invented civil rights. Eisnehower did more then Kennedy. And let us not forget that it was the democrat party and slavery that made civil rights acts manatory.
The War on Poverty: Again, not Kennedy and it is a war we apparently lost. The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States PresidentLyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964.
Raised the minimum wage: The minimum wage is raised all the time WTF? Roosevelt is responsible for the minimum wage, not JFK.
Increased Social Security benefits: Again, happens every year.
Expanded unemployment and welfare benefits. Don't really know how to prove or not prove this but both are always being changed. He didn't start unempolyment insurance and he didn't create Social Security.
Used an Executive Order to provide federal employees with collective bargaining rights: If you think that is a good thing I will give you that one.
Broadened scholarships and student loans. Student loans that and scholarships is why people go broke paying for college. That said, not exactly new territory.
Carried out the most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history Don't know if true, but how did that work out?
Funds for housing for the elderly were increased. Again they are always increased.

The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
President John F. Kennedy



Ironic you talk about 'reality'...then go into a totally ignorant rant based on a lack of FACTS. You are like a dog chasing his tale.

FIRST OF ALL...YOU ARE THE ONE who proclaimed Kennedy was an "ultimate conservative". Yet you have provided ZERO evidence to support that claim.

I have PROVEN the JFK was an ultimate liberal. More liberal than Clinton or Obama.

I didn't say JFK invented all those LIBERAL programs, but the genesis for Medicare, the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act were Kennedy ideas or proposals.


JFK Would Like A Word With You About Medicare – May 20, 1962

On May 20, 1962, President Kennedy addressed a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York in support of his Medicare legislation:

President Kennedy: “This bill serves the public interest. It involves the Government because it involves the public welfare. The Constitution of the United States did not make the President or the Congress powerless. It gave them definite responsibilities to advance the general welfare–and that is what we’re attempting to do.

And then I read that this bill will sap the individual self-reliance of Americans. I can’t imagine anything worse, or anything better, to sap someone’s self-reliance, than to be sick, alone, broke–or to have saved for a lifetime and put it out in a week, two weeks, a month, two months.

I visited twice, yesterday and today, in the hospital, where doctors labor for a long time, to visit my father. It isn’t easy–it isn’t easy. He can pay his bills, but otherwise I would be. And I am not as well off as he is. But what happens to him and to others when they put their life savings in, in a short time? So I must say that I believe we stand about where–in good company today, in halls such as this, where your predecessors-where Dave Dubinsky himself actually stood, where another former President stood, and fought this issue out of Social Security against the same charges.

This argument that the Government should stay out, that it saps our pioneer stock–I used to hear that argument when we were talking about raising the minimum wage to a dollar and a quarter. I remember one day being asked to step out into the hall, and up the corridor came four distinguished-looking men, with straw hats on and canes. They told me that they had just flown in from a State in their private plane, and they wanted me to know that if we passed a bill providing for time and a half for service station attendants, who were then working about 55 to 60 hours of straight time, it would sap their self-reliance.

The fact of the matter is what saps anyone’s self-reliance is working 60 hours at straight time, or working at 85 or 95 at a dollar an hour. Or depending upon filling out a pauper’s oath and then going and getting it free.

Nobody in this hall is asking for it for nothing. They are willing to contribute during their working years. That is the important principle which has been lost sight of.”



THE FEDERAL ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAM OF THE KENNEDY JOHNSON ADMINISTRATIONS
In the presidential election campaign of 1960, John F. Kennedy promised a “war against poverty and degradation” and “an economic drive on poverty” to address the high and persistent unemployment of the 1957–1958 and 1959–1960 recessions. His thought on this issue was based largely on John Kenneth Galbraith’s (1908–2006) The Affluent Society (1958), especially chapter 23, “The New Position on Poverty.”

In December 1962 President Kennedy asked his Council of Economic Advisors chairman, Walter W. Heller (1915–1987), to pull together all available information on the poverty issue. Heller assigned this task to council member Robert J. Lampman (1920–1997). He and Heller suggested that Kennedy read socialist Michael Harrington’s (1928–1989) The Other America: Poverty in the United States (1962), along with Leon Keyserling’s (1908–1987) Poverty and Depression in the United States (1962).

On the day after Kennedy’s November 22, 1963, assassination in Dallas, Heller met with President Johnson and suggested to him that a war against poverty might be a good way to begin his presidency. Johnson agreed. In his 1964 state of the union address, titled “The War on Poverty,” he called on Congress to enact a package of measures embodying programs that would eliminate poverty “in our lifetimes.” On February 1, 1964, Johnson appointed Kennedy’s brother-in-law and Peace Corps director Sargent Shriver to head a Task Force on Poverty.

War on Poverty Facts information pictures Encyclopedia.com articles about War on Poverty


Civil Rights Act of 1964

Origins
The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963.



If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
President John F. Kennedy

There is no doubt that JFK was a liberal. That said, he was not nearly as liberal as liberals are today.

If he had not been murdered by the State and if a couple things about him are true, he is deserving of praise. Those two things are:
- termination of the CIA
- ending our involvement in Vietnam.

Some experts believe he was murdered by the State, because they knew he planned to do those two things.

First of all, my reply was to Freewill's claim JFK was an "ultimate conservative"

Second, JFK was more liberal than today's Democrats like Clinton and Obama. The Democratic Party has shifted to the right over the last 40 years, not the left.

 

[Redfish]

Most of what you listed Kennedy didn't even start let alone finish.

EVERYTHING I list Kennedy started. He was assassinated 1000 days into his administration.

your detachment from reality is actually breath taking.

Medicare
Civil Rights: You got to be freakin' kidding me. You act as if Kennedy invented civil rights. Eisnehower did more then Kennedy. And let us not forget that it was the democrat party and slavery that made civil rights acts manatory.
The War on Poverty: Again, not Kennedy and it is a war we apparently lost. The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States PresidentLyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964.
Raised the minimum wage: The minimum wage is raised all the time WTF? Roosevelt is responsible for the minimum wage, not JFK.
Increased Social Security benefits: Again, happens every year.
Expanded unemployment and welfare benefits. Don't really know how to prove or not prove this but both are always being changed. He didn't start unempolyment insurance and he didn't create Social Security.
Used an Executive Order to provide federal employees with collective bargaining rights: If you think that is a good thing I will give you that one.
Broadened scholarships and student loans. Student loans that and scholarships is why people go broke paying for college. That said, not exactly new territory.
Carried out the most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history Don't know if true, but how did that work out?
Funds for housing for the elderly were increased. Again they are always increased.

The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
President John F. Kennedy



Ironic you talk about 'reality'...then go into a totally ignorant rant based on a lack of FACTS. You are like a dog chasing his tale.

FIRST OF ALL...YOU ARE THE ONE who proclaimed Kennedy was an "ultimate conservative". Yet you have provided ZERO evidence to support that claim.

I have PROVEN the JFK was an ultimate liberal. More liberal than Clinton or Obama.

I didn't say JFK invented all those LIBERAL programs, but the genesis for Medicare, the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act were Kennedy ideas or proposals.


JFK Would Like A Word With You About Medicare – May 20, 1962

On May 20, 1962, President Kennedy addressed a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York in support of his Medicare legislation:

President Kennedy: “This bill serves the public interest. It involves the Government because it involves the public welfare. The Constitution of the United States did not make the President or the Congress powerless. It gave them definite responsibilities to advance the general welfare–and that is what we’re attempting to do.

And then I read that this bill will sap the individual self-reliance of Americans. I can’t imagine anything worse, or anything better, to sap someone’s self-reliance, than to be sick, alone, broke–or to have saved for a lifetime and put it out in a week, two weeks, a month, two months.

I visited twice, yesterday and today, in the hospital, where doctors labor for a long time, to visit my father. It isn’t easy–it isn’t easy. He can pay his bills, but otherwise I would be. And I am not as well off as he is. But what happens to him and to others when they put their life savings in, in a short time? So I must say that I believe we stand about where–in good company today, in halls such as this, where your predecessors-where Dave Dubinsky himself actually stood, where another former President stood, and fought this issue out of Social Security against the same charges.

This argument that the Government should stay out, that it saps our pioneer stock–I used to hear that argument when we were talking about raising the minimum wage to a dollar and a quarter. I remember one day being asked to step out into the hall, and up the corridor came four distinguished-looking men, with straw hats on and canes. They told me that they had just flown in from a State in their private plane, and they wanted me to know that if we passed a bill providing for time and a half for service station attendants, who were then working about 55 to 60 hours of straight time, it would sap their self-reliance.

The fact of the matter is what saps anyone’s self-reliance is working 60 hours at straight time, or working at 85 or 95 at a dollar an hour. Or depending upon filling out a pauper’s oath and then going and getting it free.

Nobody in this hall is asking for it for nothing. They are willing to contribute during their working years. That is the important principle which has been lost sight of.”



THE FEDERAL ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAM OF THE KENNEDY JOHNSON ADMINISTRATIONS
In the presidential election campaign of 1960, John F. Kennedy promised a “war against poverty and degradation” and “an economic drive on poverty” to address the high and persistent unemployment of the 1957–1958 and 1959–1960 recessions. His thought on this issue was based largely on John Kenneth Galbraith’s (1908–2006) The Affluent Society (1958), especially chapter 23, “The New Position on Poverty.”

In December 1962 President Kennedy asked his Council of Economic Advisors chairman, Walter W. Heller (1915–1987), to pull together all available information on the poverty issue. Heller assigned this task to council member Robert J. Lampman (1920–1997). He and Heller suggested that Kennedy read socialist Michael Harrington’s (1928–1989) The Other America: Poverty in the United States (1962), along with Leon Keyserling’s (1908–1987) Poverty and Depression in the United States (1962).

On the day after Kennedy’s November 22, 1963, assassination in Dallas, Heller met with President Johnson and suggested to him that a war against poverty might be a good way to begin his presidency. Johnson agreed. In his 1964 state of the union address, titled “The War on Poverty,” he called on Congress to enact a package of measures embodying programs that would eliminate poverty “in our lifetimes.” On February 1, 1964, Johnson appointed Kennedy’s brother-in-law and Peace Corps director Sargent Shriver to head a Task Force on Poverty.

War on Poverty Facts information pictures Encyclopedia.com articles about War on Poverty


Civil Rights Act of 1964

Origins
The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963.



If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
President John F. Kennedy

There is no doubt that JFK was a liberal. That said, he was not nearly as liberal as liberals are today.

If he had not been murdered by the State and if a couple things about him are true, he is deserving of praise. Those two things are:
- termination of the CIA
- ending our involvement in Vietnam.

Some experts believe he was murdered by the State, because they knew he planned to do those two things.

First of all, my reply was to Freewill's claim JFK was an "ultimate conservative"

Second, JFK was more liberal than today's Democrats like Clinton and Obama. The Democratic Party has shifted to the right over the last 40 years, not the left.

just the opposite is true. Kennedy was much more conservative than todays liberals (and some conservatives). you live in a deluded fantasy world of liberal lies.

 

[g5000]

America died that day...in many ways. Primarily because our gov lied to us and covered it up....and now it lies all the time.

I don't think so. Govt was lying to us before kennedy was assassinated.

You don't think so...wtf is that? Did you fail to comprehend my post?

Gov always lies....

And...anyone who thinks Oswald was a leftist is uninformed and has accepted gov lies.

hard to believe there are still brainwashed sheople in the country wul STILL after over 50 years,actually believe in the warreen commission and that lee harvey oswald killed him.

It's hard to believe there are still brainwashed sheople in the country who still believe humans killed JFK. Smart guys like me know it was an alien lizard race of beings from Tralfamador.

 

[g5000]

LBJ did it. in 2038 the truth will be known when the sealed portion of the Warren report is finally made public.

Yes, it will finally come out that LBJ was a robot.

Here's are photos taken of him after they replaced his batteries:

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Are you talking about John F. Kennedy, the President who proposed, passed and/or planned the following:

Medicare
Civil Rights
The War on Poverty
Raised the minimum wage
Increased Social Security benefits
Expanded unemployment and welfare benefits.
Used an Executive Order to provide federal employees with collective bargaining rights
Broadened scholarships and student loans.
Carried out the most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history
Funds for housing for the elderly were increased.




Kennedy s New Frontier ushistory.org


A big part of LBJ's Great Society was started by President Kennedy and the New Frontier.

Domestically, Kennedy continued in the tradition of liberal Democrats Roosevelt and Truman to some extent. He signed legislation raising the minimum wage and increasing Social Security benefits. He raised money for research into mental illness and allocated funds to develop impoverished rural areas. He showed approval for the civil rights movement by supporting James Meredith's attempt to enroll at the University of Mississippi and by ordering his Attorney General, brother Robert Kennedy, to protect the freedom riders in the South.

However, most of Kennedy's more revolutionary proposals languished in the conservative Congress. He wished to protect millions of acres of wilderness lands from developments, but the Congress refused. His efforts to provide federal funds to elementary and secondary schools were denied. His Medicare plan to provide health insurance for the nation's elderly failed to achieve the necessary support. Congress was dominated by a coalition of Republicans and conservative Southern Democrats who refused to expand the New Deal any further.

In his abbreviated Presidency, Kennedy failed to accomplish all he wanted domestically. But the ideas and proposals he supported survived his assassination. Medicare, federal support for education, and wilderness protection all became part of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

Most of what you listed Kennedy didn't even start let alone finish.

EVERYTHING I list Kennedy started. He was assassinated 1000 days into his administration.

your detachment from reality is actually breath taking.

Medicare
Civil Rights: You got to be freakin' kidding me. You act as if Kennedy invented civil rights. Eisnehower did more then Kennedy. And let us not forget that it was the democrat party and slavery that made civil rights acts manatory.
The War on Poverty: Again, not Kennedy and it is a war we apparently lost. The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States PresidentLyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964.
Raised the minimum wage: The minimum wage is raised all the time WTF? Roosevelt is responsible for the minimum wage, not JFK.
Increased Social Security benefits: Again, happens every year.
Expanded unemployment and welfare benefits. Don't really know how to prove or not prove this but both are always being changed. He didn't start unempolyment insurance and he didn't create Social Security.
Used an Executive Order to provide federal employees with collective bargaining rights: If you think that is a good thing I will give you that one.
Broadened scholarships and student loans. Student loans that and scholarships is why people go broke paying for college. That said, not exactly new territory.
Carried out the most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history Don't know if true, but how did that work out?
Funds for housing for the elderly were increased. Again they are always increased.

The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
President John F. Kennedy



Ironic you talk about 'reality'...then go into a totally ignorant rant based on a lack of FACTS. You are like a dog chasing his tale.

FIRST OF ALL...YOU ARE THE ONE who proclaimed Kennedy was an "ultimate conservative". Yet you have provided ZERO evidence to support that claim.

I have PROVEN the JFK was an ultimate liberal. More liberal than Clinton or Obama.

I didn't say JFK invented all those LIBERAL programs, but the genesis for Medicare, the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act were Kennedy ideas or proposals.


JFK Would Like A Word With You About Medicare – May 20, 1962

On May 20, 1962, President Kennedy addressed a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York in support of his Medicare legislation:

President Kennedy: “This bill serves the public interest. It involves the Government because it involves the public welfare. The Constitution of the United States did not make the President or the Congress powerless. It gave them definite responsibilities to advance the general welfare–and that is what we’re attempting to do.

And then I read that this bill will sap the individual self-reliance of Americans. I can’t imagine anything worse, or anything better, to sap someone’s self-reliance, than to be sick, alone, broke–or to have saved for a lifetime and put it out in a week, two weeks, a month, two months.

I visited twice, yesterday and today, in the hospital, where doctors labor for a long time, to visit my father. It isn’t easy–it isn’t easy. He can pay his bills, but otherwise I would be. And I am not as well off as he is. But what happens to him and to others when they put their life savings in, in a short time? So I must say that I believe we stand about where–in good company today, in halls such as this, where your predecessors-where Dave Dubinsky himself actually stood, where another former President stood, and fought this issue out of Social Security against the same charges.

This argument that the Government should stay out, that it saps our pioneer stock–I used to hear that argument when we were talking about raising the minimum wage to a dollar and a quarter. I remember one day being asked to step out into the hall, and up the corridor came four distinguished-looking men, with straw hats on and canes. They told me that they had just flown in from a State in their private plane, and they wanted me to know that if we passed a bill providing for time and a half for service station attendants, who were then working about 55 to 60 hours of straight time, it would sap their self-reliance.

The fact of the matter is what saps anyone’s self-reliance is working 60 hours at straight time, or working at 85 or 95 at a dollar an hour. Or depending upon filling out a pauper’s oath and then going and getting it free.

Nobody in this hall is asking for it for nothing. They are willing to contribute during their working years. That is the important principle which has been lost sight of.”



THE FEDERAL ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAM OF THE KENNEDY JOHNSON ADMINISTRATIONS
In the presidential election campaign of 1960, John F. Kennedy promised a “war against poverty and degradation” and “an economic drive on poverty” to address the high and persistent unemployment of the 1957–1958 and 1959–1960 recessions. His thought on this issue was based largely on John Kenneth Galbraith’s (1908–2006) The Affluent Society (1958), especially chapter 23, “The New Position on Poverty.”

In December 1962 President Kennedy asked his Council of Economic Advisors chairman, Walter W. Heller (1915–1987), to pull together all available information on the poverty issue. Heller assigned this task to council member Robert J. Lampman (1920–1997). He and Heller suggested that Kennedy read socialist Michael Harrington’s (1928–1989) The Other America: Poverty in the United States (1962), along with Leon Keyserling’s (1908–1987) Poverty and Depression in the United States (1962).

On the day after Kennedy’s November 22, 1963, assassination in Dallas, Heller met with President Johnson and suggested to him that a war against poverty might be a good way to begin his presidency. Johnson agreed. In his 1964 state of the union address, titled “The War on Poverty,” he called on Congress to enact a package of measures embodying programs that would eliminate poverty “in our lifetimes.” On February 1, 1964, Johnson appointed Kennedy’s brother-in-law and Peace Corps director Sargent Shriver to head a Task Force on Poverty.

War on Poverty Facts information pictures Encyclopedia.com articles about War on Poverty


Civil Rights Act of 1964

Origins
The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963.



If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
President John F. Kennedy

There is no doubt that JFK was a liberal. That said, he was not nearly as liberal as liberals are today.

If he had not been murdered by the State and if a couple things about him are true, he is deserving of praise. Those two things are:
- termination of the CIA
- ending our involvement in Vietnam.

Some experts believe he was murdered by the State, because they knew he planned to do those two things.

Dont forget to mention the other important fact he was murdered for that i have talked about throughout this whole thread.that his executive order he signed that was going to elimate the federal reserve and their printing of federal reserve notes.

soon as he was assassinated,the printing of united states notes that had been getting printed and were backed by silver,instead of wortlhless paper that are federal reserve notes we have today,the circulation of them all stopped immediately days after his assassination.

 

[Redfish]

America died that day...in many ways. Primarily because our gov lied to us and covered it up....and now it lies all the time.

I don't think so. Govt was lying to us before kennedy was assassinated.

You don't think so...wtf is that? Did you fail to comprehend my post?

Gov always lies....

And...anyone who thinks Oswald was a leftist is uninformed and has accepted gov lies.

hard to believe there are still brainwashed sheople in the country wul STILL after over 50 years,actually believe in the warreen commission and that lee harvey oswald killed him.

It's hard to believe there are still brainwashed sheople in the country who still believe humans killed JFK. Smart guys like me know it was an alien lizard race of beings from Tralfamador.

if we are alive in 2038 we will know the truth. why exactly do you think part of the Warren report was sealed for 75 years? because of the lizard men? or because an american president was killed by his own government?

 

[g5000]

if we are alive in 2038 we will know the truth. why exactly do you think part of the Warren report was sealed for 75 years? because of the lizard men? or because an american president was killed by his own government?

Oh it's definitely becuase of lizard men. Look here:

It is a common misconception that the records relating to the assassination of President Kennedy are in some way sealed. In fact, the records are largely open and available to the research community here at the National Archives at College Park in the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Record Collection.

In addition, according to Section 5(g)(2)(D) of the Act, all records in the Kennedy Collection will be opened by 2017 unless certified as justifiably closed by the President of the United States.

Frequently Asked Questions

 

[g5000]

Dont forget to mention the other important fact he was murdered for that i have talked about throughout this whole thread.that his executive order he signed that was going to elimate the federal reserve and their printing of federal reserve notes.

soon as he was assassinated,the printing of united states notes that had been getting printed and were backed by silver,instead of wortlhless paper that are federal reserve notes we have today,the circulation of them all stopped immediately days after his assassination.

Hey dumbshit. JFK is the one who called for the end of silver certificates, and he signed the legislation which made it possible for "the circulation of them all stopped immediately days after his assassination".

 

[kaz]

How will you be spending the day? Remembering or just another day to booze?

What a historic day that was. The first Doctor Who episode was postponed because the news kept it off the air. Oh, also JFK got assassinated that day.

The man who slaughtered freedom fighters on Cuban beaches by allowing them to falsely believe he would provide air cover and brought the world to the brink of nuclear war then was praised for getting himself out of the crisis he created and scared Castro into becoming a soviet puppet 90 miles from our shore. Why would I praise him?

 

[rightwinger]

Kennedy was not an 'ultimate conservative'. He was as liberal as Bobby and Ted.

Ted was the black sheep.

JFK, lowered taxes, reduced government interference and said "ask not....;" Sounds more conservative then most we have today.

"Ultimate conservatives" in 1963 opposed Kennedy's demand-side Keynesian tax cuts.

"Ultimate conservatives" is 1963 opposed JFK's call for the pubic good over private gain (ask not).

"Ultimate conservatives" opposed JFK programs and proposals like Medicare, the War on Poverty, and President Kennedy's first executive order in office to reinstate the food stamp pilot program.

From the following is how food stamps worked at first, do you think that is what we have today?

The pilot programs would retain the requirement that the food stamps be purchased, but eliminated the concept of special stamps for surplus foods. A Department spokesman indicated the emphasis would be on increasing the consumption of perishables. Isabelle Kelley, who was part of the four-person team that designed the new program, became its first director and the first woman in USDA to head an action program.

Mr. and Mrs. Alderson Muncy of Paynesville, West Virginia, were the first food stamp recipients on May 29, 1961. They purchased $95 in food stamps for their 15-person household. In the first food stamp transaction, they bought a can of pork and beans at Henderson's Supermarket. By January 1964, the pilot programs had expanded from eight areas to 43 (40 counties, Detroit, St. Louis, and Pittsburgh) in 22 States with 380,000 participants.

A Short History of SNAP Food and Nutrition Service

BTW, you need to read the article and realize that he storyline spewed by the left is nothing but a crock. The requirement to purchase food stamps ended under Nixon. EBT, electronic transfer, was done under Reagan.

And that has exactly what to do with you premise that JFK was the "ultimate conservative"?

Kennedy was a conservative democrat and a pretty good president. Too bad you dems no longer have anyone like that.

 

[g5000]

Here is where Kennedy called for the end of silver certificates: Economic Report of the President January 1963

From page XXIII:

I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand. Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function.

In 1961, at my direction, sales of silver were suspended by the Secretary of the Treasury. As further steps, I recommend repeal of those Acts that oblige the Treasury to support the price of silver; and repeal of the special 50-percent tax on transfers of interest in silver and authorization for the Federal Reserve System to issue notes in denominations of $1, so as to make possible the gradual withdrawal of silver certificates from circulation and the use of the silver thus released for coinage purposes. I urge the Congress to take prompt action on these recommended changes.

Congress took up JFK's request and passed Public Law 88-36, which Kennedy then signed on June 4, 1963. This act ended silver certificates and brought in the age of Federal Reserve notes.

So much for 9/11 Inside Whackjob's idiotic conspiracy theory.

 

[gipper]

Most of what you listed Kennedy didn't even start let alone finish.

EVERYTHING I list Kennedy started. He was assassinated 1000 days into his administration.

your detachment from reality is actually breath taking.

Medicare
Civil Rights: You got to be freakin' kidding me. You act as if Kennedy invented civil rights. Eisnehower did more then Kennedy. And let us not forget that it was the democrat party and slavery that made civil rights acts manatory.
The War on Poverty: Again, not Kennedy and it is a war we apparently lost. The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States PresidentLyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964.
Raised the minimum wage: The minimum wage is raised all the time WTF? Roosevelt is responsible for the minimum wage, not JFK.
Increased Social Security benefits: Again, happens every year.
Expanded unemployment and welfare benefits. Don't really know how to prove or not prove this but both are always being changed. He didn't start unempolyment insurance and he didn't create Social Security.
Used an Executive Order to provide federal employees with collective bargaining rights: If you think that is a good thing I will give you that one.
Broadened scholarships and student loans. Student loans that and scholarships is why people go broke paying for college. That said, not exactly new territory.
Carried out the most comprehensive housing and urban renewal program in American history Don't know if true, but how did that work out?
Funds for housing for the elderly were increased. Again they are always increased.

The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
President John F. Kennedy



Ironic you talk about 'reality'...then go into a totally ignorant rant based on a lack of FACTS. You are like a dog chasing his tale.

FIRST OF ALL...YOU ARE THE ONE who proclaimed Kennedy was an "ultimate conservative". Yet you have provided ZERO evidence to support that claim.

I have PROVEN the JFK was an ultimate liberal. More liberal than Clinton or Obama.

I didn't say JFK invented all those LIBERAL programs, but the genesis for Medicare, the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act were Kennedy ideas or proposals.


JFK Would Like A Word With You About Medicare – May 20, 1962

On May 20, 1962, President Kennedy addressed a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York in support of his Medicare legislation:

President Kennedy: “This bill serves the public interest. It involves the Government because it involves the public welfare. The Constitution of the United States did not make the President or the Congress powerless. It gave them definite responsibilities to advance the general welfare–and that is what we’re attempting to do.

And then I read that this bill will sap the individual self-reliance of Americans. I can’t imagine anything worse, or anything better, to sap someone’s self-reliance, than to be sick, alone, broke–or to have saved for a lifetime and put it out in a week, two weeks, a month, two months.

I visited twice, yesterday and today, in the hospital, where doctors labor for a long time, to visit my father. It isn’t easy–it isn’t easy. He can pay his bills, but otherwise I would be. And I am not as well off as he is. But what happens to him and to others when they put their life savings in, in a short time? So I must say that I believe we stand about where–in good company today, in halls such as this, where your predecessors-where Dave Dubinsky himself actually stood, where another former President stood, and fought this issue out of Social Security against the same charges.

This argument that the Government should stay out, that it saps our pioneer stock–I used to hear that argument when we were talking about raising the minimum wage to a dollar and a quarter. I remember one day being asked to step out into the hall, and up the corridor came four distinguished-looking men, with straw hats on and canes. They told me that they had just flown in from a State in their private plane, and they wanted me to know that if we passed a bill providing for time and a half for service station attendants, who were then working about 55 to 60 hours of straight time, it would sap their self-reliance.

The fact of the matter is what saps anyone’s self-reliance is working 60 hours at straight time, or working at 85 or 95 at a dollar an hour. Or depending upon filling out a pauper’s oath and then going and getting it free.

Nobody in this hall is asking for it for nothing. They are willing to contribute during their working years. That is the important principle which has been lost sight of.”



THE FEDERAL ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAM OF THE KENNEDY JOHNSON ADMINISTRATIONS
In the presidential election campaign of 1960, John F. Kennedy promised a “war against poverty and degradation” and “an economic drive on poverty” to address the high and persistent unemployment of the 1957–1958 and 1959–1960 recessions. His thought on this issue was based largely on John Kenneth Galbraith’s (1908–2006) The Affluent Society (1958), especially chapter 23, “The New Position on Poverty.”

In December 1962 President Kennedy asked his Council of Economic Advisors chairman, Walter W. Heller (1915–1987), to pull together all available information on the poverty issue. Heller assigned this task to council member Robert J. Lampman (1920–1997). He and Heller suggested that Kennedy read socialist Michael Harrington’s (1928–1989) The Other America: Poverty in the United States (1962), along with Leon Keyserling’s (1908–1987) Poverty and Depression in the United States (1962).

On the day after Kennedy’s November 22, 1963, assassination in Dallas, Heller met with President Johnson and suggested to him that a war against poverty might be a good way to begin his presidency. Johnson agreed. In his 1964 state of the union address, titled “The War on Poverty,” he called on Congress to enact a package of measures embodying programs that would eliminate poverty “in our lifetimes.” On February 1, 1964, Johnson appointed Kennedy’s brother-in-law and Peace Corps director Sargent Shriver to head a Task Force on Poverty.

War on Poverty Facts information pictures Encyclopedia.com articles about War on Poverty


Civil Rights Act of 1964

Origins
The bill was called for by President John F. Kennedy in his civil rights speech of June 11, 1963.



If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
President John F. Kennedy

There is no doubt that JFK was a liberal. That said, he was not nearly as liberal as liberals are today.

If he had not been murdered by the State and if a couple things about him are true, he is deserving of praise. Those two things are:
- termination of the CIA
- ending our involvement in Vietnam.

Some experts believe he was murdered by the State, because they knew he planned to do those two things.

Dont forget to mention the other important fact he was murdered for that i have talked about throughout this whole thread.that his executive order he signed that was going to elimate the federal reserve and their printing of federal reserve notes.

soon as he was assassinated,the printing of united states notes that had been getting printed and were backed by silver,instead of wortlhless paper that are federal reserve notes we have today,the circulation of them all stopped immediately days after his assassination.

I did forget that. That one alone might have been the primary reason for the state killing him.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here is where Kennedy called for the end of silver certificates: Economic Report of the President January 1963

From page XXIII:

I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand. Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function.

In 1961, at my direction, sales of silver were suspended by the Secretary of the Treasury. As further steps, I recommend repeal of those Acts that oblige the Treasury to support the price of silver; and repeal of the special 50-percent tax on transfers of interest in silver and authorization for the Federal Reserve System to issue notes in denominations of $1, so as to make possible the gradual withdrawal of silver certificates from circulation and the use of the silver thus released for coinage purposes. I urge the Congress to take prompt action on these recommended changes.

Congress took up JFK's request and passed Public Law 88-36, which Kennedy then signed on June 4, 1963. This act ended silver certificates and brought in the age of Federal Reserve notes.

So much for 9/11 Inside Whackjob's idiotic conspiracy theory.

nice try paid troll,miserable fail though.next thing you will say is oswald was the lone assassin and LBJ did not reverse his document to pull out of vietnam by the end of 1965 liar.

Two paid trolls by the government have penetrated this thread, you and rightwinger who DOES always tell the lie oswald was the lone assassin all the time always getting his ass handed ot him on a platter constantly on that. nice game of dodgeball,its well known that after his assassination LBJ just like in vietnam,stopped the printing of the UNITED STATES NOTES troll.

President Kennedy the Federal Reserve and Executive Order 11110

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything.

A number of "Kennedy bills" were indeed issued - the author has a five dollar bill in his possession with the heading "United States Note" - but were quickly withdrawn after Kennedy's death. According to information from the Library of the Comptroller of the Currency, Executive Order 11,110 remains in effect today, although successive administrations beginning with that of President Lyndon Johnson apparently have simply ignored it and instead returned to the practice of paying interest on Federal Reserve notes. Today we continue to use Federal Reserve Notes, and the deficit is at an all-time high.

talk about someone who has a THEORY. FACTS are things you paid trolls cant handle.lol

BUT WERE QUICKLY WITHDRAWN AFTER KENNEDYS DEATH. Gee, i wonder why,could it POSSIBLY be cause Lyndon johnson STOPPED the circulation of them?


"(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and
(b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.
SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.
JOHN F. KENNEDY

Five months later JFK is murdered and five hours after his death L.B.J. cancels the executive order. It doesn't take homer simpson to connect the dots.

FIVE MONTHS LATER JFK IS MURDERED AND FIVE HOURS AFTER HIS DEATH L.B.J. CANCELS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.IT DOESNT TAKE HOMER SIMPSON TO CONNECT THE DOTS.

 

[BlindBoo]

Ted was the black sheep.

JFK, lowered taxes, reduced government interference and said "ask not....;" Sounds more conservative then most we have today.

"Ultimate conservatives" in 1963 opposed Kennedy's demand-side Keynesian tax cuts.

"Ultimate conservatives" is 1963 opposed JFK's call for the pubic good over private gain (ask not).

"Ultimate conservatives" opposed JFK programs and proposals like Medicare, the War on Poverty, and President Kennedy's first executive order in office to reinstate the food stamp pilot program.

From the following is how food stamps worked at first, do you think that is what we have today?

The pilot programs would retain the requirement that the food stamps be purchased, but eliminated the concept of special stamps for surplus foods. A Department spokesman indicated the emphasis would be on increasing the consumption of perishables. Isabelle Kelley, who was part of the four-person team that designed the new program, became its first director and the first woman in USDA to head an action program.

Mr. and Mrs. Alderson Muncy of Paynesville, West Virginia, were the first food stamp recipients on May 29, 1961. They purchased $95 in food stamps for their 15-person household. In the first food stamp transaction, they bought a can of pork and beans at Henderson's Supermarket. By January 1964, the pilot programs had expanded from eight areas to 43 (40 counties, Detroit, St. Louis, and Pittsburgh) in 22 States with 380,000 participants.

A Short History of SNAP Food and Nutrition Service

BTW, you need to read the article and realize that he storyline spewed by the left is nothing but a crock. The requirement to purchase food stamps ended under Nixon. EBT, electronic transfer, was done under Reagan.

And that has exactly what to do with you premise that JFK was the "ultimate conservative"?

Kennedy was a conservative democrat and a pretty good president. Too bad you dems no longer have anyone like that.

I agree.

Kennedy must be spinning in his grave in disbelief, at the spectacle of Emperor Hussein bent on shredding the Constitution.

Sad times for USA.

Everything that he nutballs on the right call President Obama, they called President Kennedy too.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Oliver Stone was right !!! Lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Oliver Stone was right !!! Lol

He was far more much closer to the truth than the warren commission was as any serious researcher knows.

unlike the warren commission.stone didnt ignore facts that witnesses said their tesimonys were altered by the warren commission and FBI.a crime they should have all gone to jail for in a world of justice.

 

[rightwinger]

Oliver Stone was right !!! Lol

He was far more much closer to the truth than the warren commission was as any serious researcher knows.

unlike the warren commission.stone didnt ignore facts that witnesses said their tesimonys were altered by the warren commission and FBI.a crime they should have all gone to jail for in a world of justice.

Oswald read that the Kennedy parade would be driving by his window, so he took his gun to work, fired three times and blew JFKs brains out

 

[LA RAM FAN]

so says the paid lying troll.problem with your lies is there are many thinking americans in the country and thankfully,80% of americans dont fall for your lies agent.

rightwinger is the twin brother of bill "I never had sex with this woman." clinton.just like clinton,incapable of opening up his mouth without telling a lie.

 

[BlindBoo]

Oliver Stone was right !!! Lol

He was far more much closer to the truth than the warren commission was as any serious researcher knows.

unlike the warren commission.stone didnt ignore facts that witnesses said their tesimonys were altered by the warren commission and FBI.a crime they should have all gone to jail for in a world of justice.

Oswald read that the Kennedy parade would be driving by his window, so he took his gun to work, fired three times and blew JFKs brains out

Witnesses place Oswald in the break room 15 minutes before and less than 2 minutes after the assassination.