NRA Wants Mentally Ill To Have Gun Rights

[Lakhota]

New Orleans' DA sees an effort to make Louisiana a state "in which any individual is legally entitled to carry a concealed weapon without a permit or criminal background check, and without regard to criminal history."

Louisiana Judge Rules That Violent Felons Have Gun Rights Too

 

[Lakhota]

It's so sad that the NRA chooses to be part of the problem rather than part of the solution. The NRA wasn't always this way. They were a good outfit up until the late 70's.

 

[buckeye45_73]

After the massacre at Virginia Tech in 2007, Congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the N.R.A. secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.

More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times

As a condition of its support for the measure, the National Rifle Association extracted a concession: the inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.

More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times

Lets ban the mentally ill from guns...then no liberal would ever own one....wooohooo

 

[eots]

after the massacre at virginia tech in 2007, congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the n.r.a. Secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.

more: silent since shootings, n.r.a. Could face challenge to political power - the new york times

as a condition of its support for the measure, the national rifle association extracted a concession: The inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.

more: some with histories of mental illness petition to get their gun rights back - the new york times

Define mental illness..

 

[Lakhota]

after the massacre at virginia tech in 2007, congress did manage to pass a modest measure that was designed to provide money to states to improve the federal background check system. But the n.r.a. Secured a broad concession in the legislation, which pushed states to allow people with histories of mental illness to petition to have their gun rights restored.

more: silent since shootings, n.r.a. Could face challenge to political power - the new york times

as a condition of its support for the measure, the national rifle association extracted a concession: The inclusion of a mechanism for restoring firearms rights to those who lost them for mental health reasons.

more: some with histories of mental illness petition to get their gun rights back - the new york times

Define mental illness..

I think you're better equipped...

 

[eots]

Here I will give you a hand...

DSM List of mental disorders

08.3 Acute Stress Disorder Anxiety Disorders
309.9 Adjustment Disorder Unspecified Adjustment Disorders
309.24 Adjustment Disorder with Anxiety Adjustment Disorders
309.0 Adjustment Disorder with Depressed
Mood Adjustment Disorders
309.3 Adjustment Disorder with
Disturbance of Conduct Adjustment Disorders
309.28 Adjustment Disorder with Mixed
Anxiety and Depressed Mood Adjustment Disorders
309.4 Adjustment Disorder with Mixed
Disturbance of Emotions and Conduct Adjustment Disorders
300.22 Agoraphobia without History of
Panic Disorder Anxiety Disorders
307.1 Anorexia Nervosa Eating Disorders
301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
293.89 Anxiety Disorder Due to Medical
Condition Anxiety Disorders
300 Anxiety Disorder, NOS Anxiety Disorders
301.82 Avoidant Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
296.8 Bipolar Disorder NOS Mood Disorders
296.56 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, In Full Remission Mood Disorders
296.55 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, In Partial Remission Mood Disorders
296.51 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, Mild Mood Disorders
296.52 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, Moderate Mood Disorders
296.54 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, Severe With Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.53 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, Severe Without Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.50 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Depressed, Unspecified Mood Disorders
296.46 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, In Full Remission Mood Disorders
296.45 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, In Partial Remission Mood Disorders
296.41 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, Mild Mood Disorders
296.42 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, Moderate Mood Disorders
296.44 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, Severe With Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.43 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, Severe Without Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.40 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Manic, Unspecified Mood Disorders
296.66 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, In Full Remission Mood Disorders
296.65 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, In Partial Remission Mood Disorders
296.61 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, Mild Mood Disorders
296.62 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, Moderate Mood Disorders
296.64 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, Severe With Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.63 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, Severe Without Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.60 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Mixed, Unspecified Mood Disorders
296.7 Bipolar
I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Unspecified Mood Disorders
296.40 Bipolar I Disorder, Most Recent
Episode Hypomanic Mood Disorders
296.06 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, In Full Remission Mood Disorders
296.05 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, In Partial Remission Mood Disorders
296.01 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, Mild Mood Disorders
296.02 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, Moderate Mood Disorders
296.04 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, Severe With Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.03 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, Severe Without Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.00 Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic
Episode, Unspecified Mood Disorders
296.89 Bipolar II Disorder Mood Disorders
300.7 Body Dysmorphic Disorder Somatoform Disorders
301.83 Borderline Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
780.59 Breathing-Related Sleep Disorder Sleep Disorders, Dyssomnias
298.8 Brief Psychotic Disorder Psychotic Disorders
307.51 Bulimia Nervosa Eating Disorders
307.45 Circadian Rhythm Sleep Disorder Sleep Disorders, Dyssomnias
300.11 Conversion Disorder Somatoform Disorders
301.13 Cyclothymic Disorder Mood Disorders
297.1 Delusional Disorder Psychotic Disorders
301.6 Dependent Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
300.6 Depersonalization Disorder Dissociative Disorders
311 Depressive
Disorder NOS Mood Disorders
300.12 Dissociative Amnesia Dissociative Disorders
300.15 Dissociative Disorder NOS Dissociative Disorders
300.13 Dissociative Fugue Dissociative Disorders
300.14 Dissociative Identity Disorder Dissociative Disorders
302.76 Dyspareunia Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
307.47 Dyssomnia NOS Sleep Disorders, Dyssomnias
307.44 Dyssomnia Related to (Another
Disorder) Sleep Disorders
300.4 Dysthymic Disorder Mood Disorders
307.5 Eating Disorder NOS Eating Disorders
302.4 Exhibitionism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
625 Female
Dyspareunia Due to Medical
Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
625.8 Female Hypoactive Sexual Desire
Disorder Due to Medical Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.73 Female Orgasmic Disorder Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.72 Female Sexual Arousal Disorder Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.81 Fetishism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
302.89 Frotteurism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
302.85 Gender Identity Disorder in
Adolescents or Adults Sexual Disorders, Gender Identity
Disorder
302.6 Gender Identity Disorder in
Children Sexual Disorders, Gender Identity
Disorder
302.6 Gender Identity Disorder NOS Sexual Disorders, Gender Identity
Disorder
300.02 Generalized Anxiety Disorder Anxiety Disorders
301.50 Histrionic Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
302.71 Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
300.7 Hypochondriasis Somatoform Disorders
312.3 Impulse -Control Disorder NOS Impulse-Control Disorders
307.42 Insomnia Related to (Another
Disorder) Sleep Disorders
312.34 Intermittent Explosive Disorder Impulse-Control Disorders
312.32 Kleptomania Impulse-Control Disorders
296.36 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, In Full Remission Mood Disorders
296.35 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, In Partial Remission Mood Disorders
296.31 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, Mild Mood Disorders
296.32 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, Moderate Mood Disorders
296.34 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, Severe With Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.33 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, Severe Without Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.30 Major Depressive Disorder,
Recurrent, Unspecified Mood Disorders
296.26 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, In Full Remission Mood Disorders
296.25 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, In Partial Remission Mood Disorders
296.21 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, Mild Mood Disorders
296.22 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, Moderate Mood Disorders
296.24 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, Severe With Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.23 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, Severe Without Psychotic Features Mood Disorders
296.20 Major Depressive Disorder, Single
Episode, Unspecified Mood Disorders
608.89 Male
Dyspareunia Due to Medical
Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.72 Male Erectile Disorder Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
607.84 Male Erectile Disorder Due to
Medical Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
608.89 Male Hypoactive Sexual Desire
Disorder Due to Medical Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.74 Male Orgasmic Disorder Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
293.83 Mood Disorder Due to Medical
Condition Mood Disorders
301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
347 Narcolepsy Sleep Disorders, Dyssomnias
307.47 Nightmare Disorder Sleep Disorders, Parasomnias
300.3 Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Anxiety Disorders
301.4 Obsessive-Compulsive Personality
Disorder Personality Disorders
625.8 Other Female Sexual Dysfunction
Due to Medical Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
608.89 Other Male Sexual Dysfunction Due
to Medical Condition Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
307.89 Pain Disorder Associated with both
Psychological Factors and Medical Conditions Somatoform Disorders
307.8 Pain Disorder Associated with
Psychological Features Somatoform Disorders
300.21 Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia Anxiety Disorders
300.01 Panic Disorder without Agoraphobia Anxiety Disorders
301.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
302.9 Paraphilia, NOS Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
307.47 Parasomnia NOS Sleep Disorders, Parasomnias
312.31 Pathological Gambling Impulse-Control Disorders
302.2 Pedophilia Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
301.9 Personality Disorder NOS Personality Disorders
309.81 Posttraumatic Stress Disorder Anxiety Disorders
302.75 Premature Ejaculation Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
307.44 Primary Hypersomnia Sleep Disorders, Dyssomnias
307.42 Primary Insomnia Sleep Disorders, Dyssomnias
293.81 Psychotic Disorder Due to Medical
Condition, with Delusions Psychotic Disorders
293.82 Psychotic Disorder Due to Medical
Condition, with Hallucinations Psychotic Disorders
298.9 Psychotic Disorder, NOS Psychotic Disorders
312.33 Pyromania Impulse-Control Disorders
295.70 Schizoaffective Disorder Psychotic Disorders
301.20 Schizoid Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
295.20 Schizophrenia, Catatonic Type Psychotic Disorders
295.10 Schizophrenia, Disorganized Type Psychotic Disorders
295.30 Schizophrenia, Paranoid Type Psychotic Disorders
295.60 Schizophrenia, Residual Type Psychotic Disorders
295.90 Schizophrenia, Undifferentiated
Type Psychotic Disorders
295.40 Schizophreniform Disorder Psychotic Disorders
301.22 Schizotypal Personality Disorder Personality Disorders
302.79 Sexual Aversion Disorder Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.9 Sexual Disorder NOS Sexual Disorders
302.7 Sexual Dysfunction NOS Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.83 Sexual Masochism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
302.84 Sexual Sadism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
297.3 Shared Psychotic Disorder Psychotic Disorders
780.54 Sleep Disorder Due to A Medical
Condition, Hypersomnia Type Sleep Disorders
780.52 Sleep Disorder Due to A Medical
Condition, Insomnia Type Sleep Disorders
780.59 Sleep Disorder Due to A Medical
Condition, Mixed Type Sleep Disorders
780.59 Sleep Disorder Due to A Medical
Condition, Parasomnia Type Sleep Disorders
307.46 Sleep Terror Disorder Sleep Disorders, Parasomnias
307.46 Sleepwalking Disorder Sleep Disorders, Parasomnias
300.23 Social Phobia Anxiety Disorders
300.81 Somatization
Disorder Somatoform Disorders
300.81 Somatoform Disorder NOS Somatoform Disorders
300.29 Specific Phobia Anxiety Disorders
302.3 Transvestic Fetishism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias
312.39 Trichotillomania Impulse-Control Disorders
300.81 Undifferentiated Somatoform
Disorder Somatoform Disorders
306.51 Vaginismus Sexual Disorders, Sexual
Dysfunctions
302.82 Voyeurism Sexual Disorders, Paraphilias

DSM Codes by Disorder

 

[Lakhota]

See, I knew you were better equipped.

 

[eots]

See, I knew you were better equipped.

Clearly, as I a critical thinking person and it is Important for me to know a defintion of a term before offer opinions on it, I am Indeed better equiped

 

[Lakhota]

Conservatives go crazy for the mentally ill.

 

[Lakhota]

The mentally ill should not have gun rights.

 

[squeeze berry]

The mentally ill should not have gun rights.

have you ever taken anti-depressives?

 

[Crackerjaxon]

More: Silent Since Shootings, N.R.A. Could Face Challenge to Political Power - The New York Times

More: Some With Histories of Mental Illness Petition to Get Their Gun Rights Back - The New York Times

You oppose the right of people to go to court and prove that they aren't actually crazy?

Maybe we should prevent mentally ill people from voting or driving cars forever too.

To own or have access to guns? Once they have a documented mental illness? Yes I do!

Your posts indicate that you have a deep neurosis. Please return your drivers license to the state, It frightens me that you're on the road.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Seriously, why would the NRA want the mentally ill to have gun rights?

Define ..mentally ill

Obviously mentally ill would be any supporter of limited government.

 

[Lakhota]

There’s no defense quite like a good offense. But this one relies on a falsehood.

The National Rifle Association, under fire in many quarters for scuttling popular legislation to require near-universal background checks for gun purchases, is embarking on a new campaign to prove that it cares about preventing future shootings. The group is talking up the need to keep firearms away from mentally ill people — a cause that it frequently invokes.

More: The NRA’s Orwellian Games On Guns And The Mentally Ill | TPMDC

 

[ScienceRocks]

Well,

I don't think a nut should be allowed a gun.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Seriously, why would the NRA want the mentally ill to have gun rights?

Define ..mentally ill

Obviously mentally ill would be any supporter of limited government.

Someone
-Just got out of a mental hospital
-A felon


People that are against the government can have guns.

 

[Lakhota]

Well,

I don't think a nut should be allowed a gun.

Neither do it - but did you read the OP?

 

[jgarden]

"I'll give you my gun when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands" versus "I'll give you my ballot (without voter ID) when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands"

Has anyone noticed that conservative supporters of the NRA have done a complete reversal when it comes to their argument in favor of voter ID?

Example 1: Why should law abiding gun owners be subject to government regulation suddenly becomes all voters should treated as potential cheaters and subject to voter ID - even though the ratio of convicted impersonators to ballots cast is 1:15 000 000!

Example 2: The Constitution guarantees the "right to bear arms" has been transformed into individual states should have the right to disenfranchise all of those without government ID - despite the fact that the Founding Fathers did not see the need to include such a provision.

Example 3: The possibility of a few individuals committing voter fraud/impersonation is perceived by our conservative "friends" as a greater threat than the approximately 32, 000+ Americans who die from gun shots annually.

 

[bayoubill]

Seriously, why would the NRA want the mentally ill to have gun rights?

ummm... if you're able to take a deep breath, I'll tell you...

'k... here's the deal... the NRA wants to have provisions in place for anyone to be able to appeal the removal of their Second Amendment rights... whether it be for a domestic abuse filing... which could unfairly be on the record simply because of a pissed off spouse... or some sort of mental health record... which again could have been initiated by some person with less-than-honorable intentions...

there need to be protections built into the system to protect individuals from the system...

 

[bayoubill]

"I'll give you my gun when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands" versus "I'll give you my ballot (without voter ID) when you pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands"

Has anyone noticed that conservative supporters of the NRA have done a complete reversal when it comes to their argument in favor of voter ID?

Example 1: Why should law abiding gun owners be subject to government regulation suddenly becomes all voters should treated as potential cheaters and subject to voter ID - even though the ratio of convicted impersonators to ballots cast is 1:15 000 000!

Example 2: The Constitution guarantees the "right to bear arms" has been transformed into individual states should have the right to disenfranchise all of those without government ID - despite the fact that the Founding Fathers did not see the need to include such a provision.

Example 3: The possibility of a few individuals committing voter fraud/impersonation is perceived by our conservative "friends" as a greater threat than the approximately 32, 000+ Americans who die from gun shots annually.

typical lib shit-for-brains apples vs. oranges comparison...

glad I don't spend much time in the political threads...

I'd go nuts if I hadda see this kinda crap on a daily basis...