Ocasio Cortez made 27000 in 2017 before taxes, this is below the poverty line

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LOL

Since when do righties care when politicians lie??
/---/ Since day one - you bafoon.
LOLOLOLOL

Suuuure ya do, uh-huh. Show me where you’ve ever once complained about a lie Trump has told.....
/----/ Post one of his lies along with the proof. Go ahead and gather your notes, I'm sure you have everything documented.
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Really, what difference does it make to you what's on President Trump's tax return? Strictly speaking, the vast majority of Americans could care less and are incompetent to interpret it.
LOLOLOL

You challenged me to post a lie — I do — and rather than bitch at trump for lying, you pile on excuses.

G’head, bitch again about keeping your doctor. :lmao:
 
LOLOLOLOL

Suuuure ya do, uh-huh. Show me where you’ve ever once complained about a lie Trump has told.....
/----/ Post one of his lies along with the proof. Go ahead and gather your notes, I'm sure you have everything documented.
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What year was that said.... Again Trumps taxes were all audited
2016. Since the audit is over, he should keep his word and release them.

Nah you babbling is too precious
LOLOL

Great, just another conservative who loves being lied to.
 
Listen Dummy, I don't have time to teach a comprehension class.

The employee claims her tips. She and probably many more like her
DO NOT CLAIM all their tips. She's a Tax Cheat.
LOLOL

You putzes are too funny. I gave the definition for median wage and salaried employees -- it includes tips. Why would I take your word over the BLS's?

And I read she shared an apartment that cost about $1850/month. Affordable for someone making $27K.

And best of all, none of you nuts have even come close to showing she didn't claim her tips. I know -- maybe you can get Mueller to investigate her.

:lmao:

I have no idea as to whether this chica claimed all of her tips or not.

But that's why we have IRS agents on staff to do. They can do forensic accounting, look at her credit cards, receipts, the expensive clothes she wears, the high priced clubs and beaneries she goes to.

Ms. Ocasio Cortez criticizes our President and his tax returns were audited.

Why shouldn't she get the same treatment.
Minimum wage in NYC was $7.50 for tipped employees

New York State's Minimum Wage

That comes to $15,600 for 40 hrs/week with no vacation time. She showed income of about $11,000 more than that.

Good luck proving she didn't claim her tips, ya fruit loop dingus. :mm:

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit

She LIKE all politicians are raging hypocrites.
Oh? What’s hypocritical?

If that's a question you think you really need to ask you aren't worth my time.
 
I can post 100 lies by trump in 2 years than you can from Obama in 8.


President Trump's "lies" are mere exaggerations and opinions. "this is the most tremendous program which will produce unbelievable results"

Obama's lies are just plain falsehoods "you can keep your doctor"
LOLOL

Nah, “you can keep your doctor” was just an exaggeration too, just like trump tells.

Seriously? Are you that brainwashed?
 
LOLOL

You putzes are too funny. I gave the definition for median wage and salaried employees -- it includes tips. Why would I take your word over the BLS's?

And I read she shared an apartment that cost about $1850/month. Affordable for someone making $27K.

And best of all, none of you nuts have even come close to showing she didn't claim her tips. I know -- maybe you can get Mueller to investigate her.

:lmao:

I have no idea as to whether this chica claimed all of her tips or not.

But that's why we have IRS agents on staff to do. They can do forensic accounting, look at her credit cards, receipts, the expensive clothes she wears, the high priced clubs and beaneries she goes to.

Ms. Ocasio Cortez criticizes our President and his tax returns were audited.

Why shouldn't she get the same treatment.
Minimum wage in NYC was $7.50 for tipped employees

New York State's Minimum Wage

That comes to $15,600 for 40 hrs/week with no vacation time. She showed income of about $11,000 more than that.

Good luck proving she didn't claim her tips, ya fruit loop dingus. :mm:

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit

She LIKE all politicians are raging hypocrites.
Oh? What’s hypocritical?

If that's a question you think you really need to ask you aren't worth my time.
No worries, I didn’t actually expect you could coherently answer it anyways.
 
Please explain how the millions of people insured by the companies that dropped obamascare kept their insurance.....

Then stroke your dildo
 
I have no idea as to whether this chica claimed all of her tips or not.

But that's why we have IRS agents on staff to do. They can do forensic accounting, look at her credit cards, receipts, the expensive clothes she wears, the high priced clubs and beaneries she goes to.

Ms. Ocasio Cortez criticizes our President and his tax returns were audited.

Why shouldn't she get the same treatment.
Minimum wage in NYC was $7.50 for tipped employees

New York State's Minimum Wage

That comes to $15,600 for 40 hrs/week with no vacation time. She showed income of about $11,000 more than that.

Good luck proving she didn't claim her tips, ya fruit loop dingus. :mm:

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit

She LIKE all politicians are raging hypocrites.
Oh? What’s hypocritical?

If that's a question you think you really need to ask you aren't worth my time.
No worries, I didn’t actually expect you could coherently answer it anyways.

No worries I don't ever actually you to ever condemn one of your hypocrites. Trump lies through his teeth everyday, that's the game and they ALL play it, it sucks but that's the way it is. If that's not something you see there really is no hope for you.
 
Please explain how the millions of people insured by the companies that dropped obamascare kept their insurance.....

Then stroke your dildo

Faun has no idea how any of it works. Obama lied when he said "If you like your plan you can keep it", it was simply expedient for him at that moment.

All plans HAVE to be filed by May (unless granted an exception). IF ANYTHING changes in the coverage the plan ceases to exist on Dec 31 stand the new plans take effect. He knew that.
 
Minimum wage in NYC was $7.50 for tipped employees

New York State's Minimum Wage

That comes to $15,600 for 40 hrs/week with no vacation time. She showed income of about $11,000 more than that.

Good luck proving she didn't claim her tips, ya fruit loop dingus. :mm:

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit"

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Politics of a $3,000 Suit

She LIKE all politicians are raging hypocrites.
Oh? What’s hypocritical?

If that's a question you think you really need to ask you aren't worth my time.
No worries, I didn’t actually expect you could coherently answer it anyways.

No worries I don't ever actually you to ever condemn one of your hypocrites. Trump lies through his teeth everyday, that's the game and they ALL play it, it sucks but that's the way it is. If that's not something you see there really is no hope for you.
”I don't ever actually you”

LOL

Is that the English composition that passes for conservatives these days?

Regardless of your incoherence, you said Cortez was a hypocrite for wearing that dress. That had nothing to do with politicians lying.

Can conservatives even focus for more than one post?
 
Please explain how the millions of people insured by the companies that dropped obamascare kept their insurance.....

Then stroke your dildo

Faun has no idea how any of it works. Obama lied when he said "If you like your plan you can keep it", it was simply expedient for him at that moment.

All plans HAVE to be filed by May (unless granted an exception). IF ANYTHING changes in the coverage the plan ceases to exist on Dec 31 stand the new plans take effect. He knew that.
Thanks to trump, lies don’t matter anymore.
 
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You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb[/QUOTE]
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.[/QUOTE]

Yawning, a few million lost their insurance 3 million of 20 million is 15 percent.

Learn some math girl, its not really that hard.

Funny how you think everyone insured has boobcare
 
I have a link to this but this site will not allow me to prove what I say

If we can prove that she did not report her real income she can be impeached easily as the democrats want her around less then the GOP that finds her humorous
Remember the now defunct tea party complaining about elitists and how all the congresspeople are millionaires? Now they lick the boots of a president with a golden toilet who lives in a tower, and attack a congressperson for being poor. Of course, to anyone paying attention, the tea party was a scam front to organize racists, so this is not the least bit surprising.
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.[/ QUOTE]

Yawning, a few million lost their insurance 3 million of 20 million is 15 percent.

Learn some math girl, its not really that hard.

Funny how you think everyone insured has boobcare
LOLOL

I see you still can’t figure out how to properly use the quote function. Reveals plenty about you.

And no, it wasn’t 3 million out of 20 million who lost their insurance; it was about 3 million out of about 275 million who did. The other 99% kept their insurance.
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.[/ QUOTE]

Yawning, a few million lost their insurance 3 million of 20 million is 15 percent.

Learn some math girl, its not really that hard.

Funny how you think everyone insured has boobcare
LOLOL

I see you still can’t figure out how to properly use the quote function. Reveals plenty about you.

And no, it wasn’t 3 million out of 20 million who lost their insurance; it was about 3 million out of about 275 million who did. The other 99% kept their insurance.

Are you really a psycho, or what

It now looks like ObamaCare will hurt twice as many people as it helps — because the law isn’t nearly done with canceling people’s insurance.

The 5 million-plus Americans who’ve seen their health plans canceled thanks to ObamaCare will be joined by millions more this year — because the Affordable Care Act makes their employer-provided policies illegal, as well.

ObamaCare defenders are trying to minimize the coming pain. Jonathan Gruber, an architect of the law, told The Washington Post that the number of “losers” who will have to pay more for the same or inferior coverage will be “very, very small.” Nonsense. ObamaCare exchange plans — the only option for most people who lose on-the-job coverage — are a raw deal.

Yet millions will get dropped from employer-provided coverage over the course of this year and be stuck with that alternative.

Effective Jan. 1 of this year, the Affordable Care Act requires small-group plans to provide 10 “essential benefits.” Many employers renewed their plans late last year to avoid that costly requirement as long as possible. But as the months pass, these plans will expire — and employers will be tempted to drop coverage altogether, rather than pay for those costly added benefits.

And those dropped employees will be stuck with ObamaCare-exchange plans or no insurance at all.

Yet an exchange plan is a ripoff compared with what they’re losing.

On average, US workers with on-the-job individual coverage contribute $999 a year in pre-tax dollars and have a deductible of $1,135, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. On ObamaCare exchanges, all but the lowest earners will pay more (even after subsidies), pay with after-tax dollars, face deductibles of $3,000 to $5,000 for silver and bronze plans and lose access to many doctors and hospitals they’re covered for now.

How many people will this change clobber? Well, about 60 million Americans now get employer-provided insurance via small-group plans. Law firms and other high-end businesses are unlikely to drop coverage, but companies with lots of salespeople, receptionists and other lower-paid workers will say they can’t afford Washington’s “one size fits all” requirement — which, the Heritage Foundation reports, adds an estimated $1.79 an hour to the cost of a 40-hour worker (and more than $2 an hour in states like New York and New Jersey, where health care is more expensive).

Even the chance that ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” will go into effect in 2015 isn’t apt to deter employers from dropping coverage. The penalty for not complying with the mandate would add only 98 cents an hour for a 40-hour worker — a bargain compared with the $1.79 cost of providing coverage plus the enormous amount of red tape, reporting requirements and fees that ObamaCare piles on employers who provide coverage. In truth, the law discourages employers from insuring their workers, making it far easier and cheaper to send them to the exchanges.

That’s why the management consultants at McKinsey & Co. warned in 2011 that nearly a third of employers surveyed already were considering dropping coverage, with the figure rising among those familiar with the law’s requirements.

So a conservative estimate is that 25 million people, out of the 60 million in small group plans, get dropped in 2014. Add that to the 5 million or so whose individual-market already canceled on Jan. 1, and you have a lot of losers.

Indeed, it looks like ObamaCare will create twice as many losers as winners in 2014. The Congressional Budget Office projects that 16 million will gain coverage via the law’s Medicaid expansion (9 million) and subsidized exchange plans (7 million) — and even that’s rosier than the enrollment figures we’ve seen so far.

Thirty million losing insurance; 16 million gaining it. It’ll be hard for Democrats running for election this fall to defend a law that hurts twice as many people as it helps.

Betsy McCaughey is the author of “Beating Obamacare 2014.”
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.[/ QUOTE]

Yawning, a few million lost their insurance 3 million of 20 million is 15 percent.

Learn some math girl, its not really that hard.

Funny how you think everyone insured has boobcare
LOLOL

I see you still can’t figure out how to properly use the quote function. Reveals plenty about you.

And no, it wasn’t 3 million out of 20 million who lost their insurance; it was about 3 million out of about 275 million who did. The other 99% kept their insurance.

Are you really a psycho, or what

It now looks like ObamaCare will hurt twice as many people as it helps — because the law isn’t nearly done with canceling people’s insurance.

The 5 million-plus Americans who’ve seen their health plans canceled thanks to ObamaCare will be joined by millions more this year — because the Affordable Care Act makes their employer-provided policies illegal, as well.

ObamaCare defenders are trying to minimize the coming pain. Jonathan Gruber, an architect of the law, told The Washington Post that the number of “losers” who will have to pay more for the same or inferior coverage will be “very, very small.” Nonsense. ObamaCare exchange plans — the only option for most people who lose on-the-job coverage — are a raw deal.

Yet millions will get dropped from employer-provided coverage over the course of this year and be stuck with that alternative.

Effective Jan. 1 of this year, the Affordable Care Act requires small-group plans to provide 10 “essential benefits.” Many employers renewed their plans late last year to avoid that costly requirement as long as possible. But as the months pass, these plans will expire — and employers will be tempted to drop coverage altogether, rather than pay for those costly added benefits.

And those dropped employees will be stuck with ObamaCare-exchange plans or no insurance at all.

Yet an exchange plan is a ripoff compared with what they’re losing.

On average, US workers with on-the-job individual coverage contribute $999 a year in pre-tax dollars and have a deductible of $1,135, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. On ObamaCare exchanges, all but the lowest earners will pay more (even after subsidies), pay with after-tax dollars, face deductibles of $3,000 to $5,000 for silver and bronze plans and lose access to many doctors and hospitals they’re covered for now.

How many people will this change clobber? Well, about 60 million Americans now get employer-provided insurance via small-group plans. Law firms and other high-end businesses are unlikely to drop coverage, but companies with lots of salespeople, receptionists and other lower-paid workers will say they can’t afford Washington’s “one size fits all” requirement — which, the Heritage Foundation reports, adds an estimated $1.79 an hour to the cost of a 40-hour worker (and more than $2 an hour in states like New York and New Jersey, where health care is more expensive).

Even the chance that ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” will go into effect in 2015 isn’t apt to deter employers from dropping coverage. The penalty for not complying with the mandate would add only 98 cents an hour for a 40-hour worker — a bargain compared with the $1.79 cost of providing coverage plus the enormous amount of red tape, reporting requirements and fees that ObamaCare piles on employers who provide coverage. In truth, the law discourages employers from insuring their workers, making it far easier and cheaper to send them to the exchanges.

That’s why the management consultants at McKinsey & Co. warned in 2011 that nearly a third of employers surveyed already were considering dropping coverage, with the figure rising among those familiar with the law’s requirements.

So a conservative estimate is that 25 million people, out of the 60 million in small group plans, get dropped in 2014. Add that to the 5 million or so whose individual-market already canceled on Jan. 1, and you have a lot of losers.

Indeed, it looks like ObamaCare will create twice as many losers as winners in 2014. The Congressional Budget Office projects that 16 million will gain coverage via the law’s Medicaid expansion (9 million) and subsidized exchange plans (7 million) — and even that’s rosier than the enrollment figures we’ve seen so far.

Thirty million losing insurance; 16 million gaining it. It’ll be hard for Democrats running for election this fall to defend a law that hurts twice as many people as it helps.

Betsy McCaughey is the author of “Beating Obamacare 2014.”
Oh, no’s! A brain-dead conservative quoting another conservative who’s agsinst ObamaCare.

Despite that author’s “estimates,” we actually saw how many got dropped. The highest figure was 4.7 million. Nowhere near the 25 million you idiotically posted. And even that 4.7 million was contested as probably too high.

ObamaCare’s here to stay. You’re only chance to get rid of it expires in a month. And given your side failed to get rid of it in the last 2 years, there’s no hope you can now.

:dance:
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.[/ QUOTE]

Yawning, a few million lost their insurance 3 million of 20 million is 15 percent.

Learn some math girl, its not really that hard.

Funny how you think everyone insured has boobcare
LOLOL

I see you still can’t figure out how to properly use the quote function. Reveals plenty about you.

And no, it wasn’t 3 million out of 20 million who lost their insurance; it was about 3 million out of about 275 million who did. The other 99% kept their insurance.

Are you really a psycho, or what

It now looks like ObamaCare will hurt twice as many people as it helps — because the law isn’t nearly done with canceling people’s insurance.

The 5 million-plus Americans who’ve seen their health plans canceled thanks to ObamaCare will be joined by millions more this year — because the Affordable Care Act makes their employer-provided policies illegal, as well.

ObamaCare defenders are trying to minimize the coming pain. Jonathan Gruber, an architect of the law, told The Washington Post that the number of “losers” who will have to pay more for the same or inferior coverage will be “very, very small.” Nonsense. ObamaCare exchange plans — the only option for most people who lose on-the-job coverage — are a raw deal.

Yet millions will get dropped from employer-provided coverage over the course of this year and be stuck with that alternative.

Effective Jan. 1 of this year, the Affordable Care Act requires small-group plans to provide 10 “essential benefits.” Many employers renewed their plans late last year to avoid that costly requirement as long as possible. But as the months pass, these plans will expire — and employers will be tempted to drop coverage altogether, rather than pay for those costly added benefits.

And those dropped employees will be stuck with ObamaCare-exchange plans or no insurance at all.

Yet an exchange plan is a ripoff compared with what they’re losing.

On average, US workers with on-the-job individual coverage contribute $999 a year in pre-tax dollars and have a deductible of $1,135, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. On ObamaCare exchanges, all but the lowest earners will pay more (even after subsidies), pay with after-tax dollars, face deductibles of $3,000 to $5,000 for silver and bronze plans and lose access to many doctors and hospitals they’re covered for now.

How many people will this change clobber? Well, about 60 million Americans now get employer-provided insurance via small-group plans. Law firms and other high-end businesses are unlikely to drop coverage, but companies with lots of salespeople, receptionists and other lower-paid workers will say they can’t afford Washington’s “one size fits all” requirement — which, the Heritage Foundation reports, adds an estimated $1.79 an hour to the cost of a 40-hour worker (and more than $2 an hour in states like New York and New Jersey, where health care is more expensive).

Even the chance that ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” will go into effect in 2015 isn’t apt to deter employers from dropping coverage. The penalty for not complying with the mandate would add only 98 cents an hour for a 40-hour worker — a bargain compared with the $1.79 cost of providing coverage plus the enormous amount of red tape, reporting requirements and fees that ObamaCare piles on employers who provide coverage. In truth, the law discourages employers from insuring their workers, making it far easier and cheaper to send them to the exchanges.

That’s why the management consultants at McKinsey & Co. warned in 2011 that nearly a third of employers surveyed already were considering dropping coverage, with the figure rising among those familiar with the law’s requirements.

So a conservative estimate is that 25 million people, out of the 60 million in small group plans, get dropped in 2014. Add that to the 5 million or so whose individual-market already canceled on Jan. 1, and you have a lot of losers.

Indeed, it looks like ObamaCare will create twice as many losers as winners in 2014. The Congressional Budget Office projects that 16 million will gain coverage via the law’s Medicaid expansion (9 million) and subsidized exchange plans (7 million) — and even that’s rosier than the enrollment figures we’ve seen so far.

Thirty million losing insurance; 16 million gaining it. It’ll be hard for Democrats running for election this fall to defend a law that hurts twice as many people as it helps.

Betsy McCaughey is the author of “Beating Obamacare 2014.”
Oh, no’s! A brain-dead conservative quoting another conservative who’s agsinst ObamaCare.

Despite that author’s “estimates,” we actually saw how many got dropped. The highest figure was 4.7 million. Nowhere near the 25 million you idiotically posted. And even that 4.7 million was contested as probably too high.

ObamaCare’s here to stay. You’re only chance to get rid of it expires in a month. And given your side failed to get rid of it in the last 2 years, there’s no hope you can now.

:dance:
It now looks like ObamaCare will hurt twice as many people as it helps — because the law isn’t nearly done with canceling people’s insurance.

The 5 million-plus Americans who’ve seen their health plans canceled thanks to ObamaCare will be joined by millions more this year — because the Affordable Care Act makes their employer-provided policies illegal, as well.

ObamaCare defenders are trying to minimize the coming pain. Jonathan Gruber, an architect of the law, told The Washington Post that the number of “losers” who will have to pay more for the same or inferior coverage will be “very, very small.” Nonsense. ObamaCare exchange plans — the only option for most people who lose on-the-job coverage — are a raw deal.

Yet millions will get dropped from employer-provided coverage over the course of this year and be stuck with that alternative.

Effective Jan. 1 of this year, the Affordable Care Act requires small-group plans to provide 10 “essential benefits.” Many employers renewed their plans late last year to avoid that costly requirement as long as possible. But as the months pass, these plans will expire — and employers will be tempted to drop coverage altogether, rather than pay for those costly added benefits.

And those dropped employees will be stuck with ObamaCare-exchange plans or no insurance at all.

Yet an exchange plan is a ripoff compared with what they’re losing.

On average, US workers with on-the-job individual coverage contribute $999 a year in pre-tax dollars and have a deductible of $1,135, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. On ObamaCare exchanges, all but the lowest earners will pay more (even after subsidies), pay with after-tax dollars, face deductibles of $3,000 to $5,000 for silver and bronze plans and lose access to many doctors and hospitals they’re covered for now.

How many people will this change clobber? Well, about 60 million Americans now get employer-provided insurance via small-group plans. Law firms and other high-end businesses are unlikely to drop coverage, but companies with lots of salespeople, receptionists and other lower-paid workers will say they can’t afford Washington’s “one size fits all” requirement — which, the Heritage Foundation reports, adds an estimated $1.79 an hour to the cost of a 40-hour worker (and more than $2 an hour in states like New York and New Jersey, where health care is more expensive).

Even the chance that ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” will go into effect in 2015 isn’t apt to deter employers from dropping coverage. The penalty for not complying with the mandate would add only 98 cents an hour for a 40-hour worker — a bargain compared with the $1.79 cost of providing coverage plus the enormous amount of red tape, reporting requirements and fees that ObamaCare piles on employers who provide coverage. In truth, the law discourages employers from insuring their workers, making it far easier and cheaper to send them to the exchanges.

That’s why the management consultants at McKinsey & Co. warned in 2011 that nearly a third of employers surveyed already were considering dropping coverage, with the figure rising among those familiar with the law’s requirements.

So a conservative estimate is that 25 million people, out of the 60 million in small group plans, get dropped in 2014. Add that to the 5 million or so whose individual-market already canceled on Jan. 1, and you have a lot of losers.

Indeed, it looks like ObamaCare will create twice as many losers as winners in 2014. The Congressional Budget Office projects that 16 million will gain coverage via the law’s Medicaid expansion (9 million) and subsidized exchange plans (7 million) — and even that’s rosier than the enrollment figures we’ve seen so far.

Thirty million losing insurance; 16 million gaining it. It’ll be hard for Democrats running for election this fall to defend a law that hurts twice as many people as it helps.

Betsy McCaughey is the author of “Beating Obamacare 2014.”
 

You are wrong again, Obamacare NEVER insured 275 million. I kept my insurance but never was so stupid as to need obamacare.

So you keep pretending that you know whats going on, because you are advertising your stupidity with every post.

20 plus million people use obamacare, not 275 million.

Do you work at being dumb
Was this intended for me?

Learn how to properly utilize the quote feature, ya moron. Surely, it’s not too difficult, even for someone like you, to figure out?

As far as my 275 million figure — I never said that’s how many are on ObamaCare. That was an estimate I threw out of how many people were insured; from which, a few million lost their health insurance.

Thanks for proving you’re just another brain-dead conservative who can’t comprehend what he reads. A dime a dozen around here.[/ QUOTE]

Yawning, a few million lost their insurance 3 million of 20 million is 15 percent.

Learn some math girl, its not really that hard.

Funny how you think everyone insured has boobcare
LOLOL

I see you still can’t figure out how to properly use the quote function. Reveals plenty about you.

And no, it wasn’t 3 million out of 20 million who lost their insurance; it was about 3 million out of about 275 million who did. The other 99% kept their insurance.

Are you really a psycho, or what

It now looks like ObamaCare will hurt twice as many people as it helps — because the law isn’t nearly done with canceling people’s insurance.

The 5 million-plus Americans who’ve seen their health plans canceled thanks to ObamaCare will be joined by millions more this year — because the Affordable Care Act makes their employer-provided policies illegal, as well.

ObamaCare defenders are trying to minimize the coming pain. Jonathan Gruber, an architect of the law, told The Washington Post that the number of “losers” who will have to pay more for the same or inferior coverage will be “very, very small.” Nonsense. ObamaCare exchange plans — the only option for most people who lose on-the-job coverage — are a raw deal.

Yet millions will get dropped from employer-provided coverage over the course of this year and be stuck with that alternative.

Effective Jan. 1 of this year, the Affordable Care Act requires small-group plans to provide 10 “essential benefits.” Many employers renewed their plans late last year to avoid that costly requirement as long as possible. But as the months pass, these plans will expire — and employers will be tempted to drop coverage altogether, rather than pay for those costly added benefits.

And those dropped employees will be stuck with ObamaCare-exchange plans or no insurance at all.

Yet an exchange plan is a ripoff compared with what they’re losing.

On average, US workers with on-the-job individual coverage contribute $999 a year in pre-tax dollars and have a deductible of $1,135, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. On ObamaCare exchanges, all but the lowest earners will pay more (even after subsidies), pay with after-tax dollars, face deductibles of $3,000 to $5,000 for silver and bronze plans and lose access to many doctors and hospitals they’re covered for now.

How many people will this change clobber? Well, about 60 million Americans now get employer-provided insurance via small-group plans. Law firms and other high-end businesses are unlikely to drop coverage, but companies with lots of salespeople, receptionists and other lower-paid workers will say they can’t afford Washington’s “one size fits all” requirement — which, the Heritage Foundation reports, adds an estimated $1.79 an hour to the cost of a 40-hour worker (and more than $2 an hour in states like New York and New Jersey, where health care is more expensive).

Even the chance that ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” will go into effect in 2015 isn’t apt to deter employers from dropping coverage. The penalty for not complying with the mandate would add only 98 cents an hour for a 40-hour worker — a bargain compared with the $1.79 cost of providing coverage plus the enormous amount of red tape, reporting requirements and fees that ObamaCare piles on employers who provide coverage. In truth, the law discourages employers from insuring their workers, making it far easier and cheaper to send them to the exchanges.

That’s why the management consultants at McKinsey & Co. warned in 2011 that nearly a third of employers surveyed already were considering dropping coverage, with the figure rising among those familiar with the law’s requirements.

So a conservative estimate is that 25 million people, out of the 60 million in small group plans, get dropped in 2014. Add that to the 5 million or so whose individual-market already canceled on Jan. 1, and you have a lot of losers.

Indeed, it looks like ObamaCare will create twice as many losers as winners in 2014. The Congressional Budget Office projects that 16 million will gain coverage via the law’s Medicaid expansion (9 million) and subsidized exchange plans (7 million) — and even that’s rosier than the enrollment figures we’ve seen so far.

Thirty million losing insurance; 16 million gaining it. It’ll be hard for Democrats running for election this fall to defend a law that hurts twice as many people as it helps.

Betsy McCaughey is the author of “Beating Obamacare 2014.”
Oh, no’s! A brain-dead conservative quoting another conservative who’s agsinst ObamaCare.

Despite that author’s “estimates,” we actually saw how many got dropped. The highest figure was 4.7 million. Nowhere near the 25 million you idiotically posted. And even that 4.7 million was contested as probably too high.

ObamaCare’s here to stay. You’re only chance to get rid of it expires in a month. And given your side failed to get rid of it in the last 2 years, there’s no hope you can now.

:dance:
It now looks like ObamaCare will hurt twice as many people as it helps — because the law isn’t nearly done with canceling people’s insurance.

The 5 million-plus Americans who’ve seen their health plans canceled thanks to ObamaCare will be joined by millions more this year — because the Affordable Care Act makes their employer-provided policies illegal, as well.

ObamaCare defenders are trying to minimize the coming pain. Jonathan Gruber, an architect of the law, told The Washington Post that the number of “losers” who will have to pay more for the same or inferior coverage will be “very, very small.” Nonsense. ObamaCare exchange plans — the only option for most people who lose on-the-job coverage — are a raw deal.

Yet millions will get dropped from employer-provided coverage over the course of this year and be stuck with that alternative.

Effective Jan. 1 of this year, the Affordable Care Act requires small-group plans to provide 10 “essential benefits.” Many employers renewed their plans late last year to avoid that costly requirement as long as possible. But as the months pass, these plans will expire — and employers will be tempted to drop coverage altogether, rather than pay for those costly added benefits.

And those dropped employees will be stuck with ObamaCare-exchange plans or no insurance at all.

Yet an exchange plan is a ripoff compared with what they’re losing.

On average, US workers with on-the-job individual coverage contribute $999 a year in pre-tax dollars and have a deductible of $1,135, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. On ObamaCare exchanges, all but the lowest earners will pay more (even after subsidies), pay with after-tax dollars, face deductibles of $3,000 to $5,000 for silver and bronze plans and lose access to many doctors and hospitals they’re covered for now.

How many people will this change clobber? Well, about 60 million Americans now get employer-provided insurance via small-group plans. Law firms and other high-end businesses are unlikely to drop coverage, but companies with lots of salespeople, receptionists and other lower-paid workers will say they can’t afford Washington’s “one size fits all” requirement — which, the Heritage Foundation reports, adds an estimated $1.79 an hour to the cost of a 40-hour worker (and more than $2 an hour in states like New York and New Jersey, where health care is more expensive).

Even the chance that ObamaCare’s “employer mandate” will go into effect in 2015 isn’t apt to deter employers from dropping coverage. The penalty for not complying with the mandate would add only 98 cents an hour for a 40-hour worker — a bargain compared with the $1.79 cost of providing coverage plus the enormous amount of red tape, reporting requirements and fees that ObamaCare piles on employers who provide coverage. In truth, the law discourages employers from insuring their workers, making it far easier and cheaper to send them to the exchanges.

That’s why the management consultants at McKinsey & Co. warned in 2011 that nearly a third of employers surveyed already were considering dropping coverage, with the figure rising among those familiar with the law’s requirements.

So a conservative estimate is that 25 million people, out of the 60 million in small group plans, get dropped in 2014. Add that to the 5 million or so whose individual-market already canceled on Jan. 1, and you have a lot of losers.

Indeed, it looks like ObamaCare will create twice as many losers as winners in 2014. The Congressional Budget Office projects that 16 million will gain coverage via the law’s Medicaid expansion (9 million) and subsidized exchange plans (7 million) — and even that’s rosier than the enrollment figures we’ve seen so far.

Thirty million losing insurance; 16 million gaining it. It’ll be hard for Democrats running for election this fall to defend a law that hurts twice as many people as it helps.

Betsy McCaughey is the author of “Beating Obamacare 2014.”
 
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