Olympic Arms, Inc. bans all sales to the State of New York Government

[Lonestar_logic]

According to this link the New York contract has been extended to October 2013.

So Olympic Arms and LaRue Tactical have had no contract with New York state since at least November 2007 and through October of this year.

That's with the state. Not local levels.

Here's what Olympic said:

Due the passing of this legislation, Olympic Arms would like to announce that the State of New York, any Law Enforcement Departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responders within the State of New York, or any New York State government entity or employee of such an entity - will no longer be served as customers.

This implies the state is their customer and they are stopping.

Since the State of New York is not actually a customer, they blew their credibility. So I doubt any other level of government in New York is their customer.

Just because they do not have a signed contract doesn't mean they haven't been bidding for those contracts. No one gets a contract just because, they all submit bids that the State takes into consideration when awarding contracts. Besides there is no proof that Olympic has never had a contract with the State. All that you've shown is a five year span where they did not have a contract, which by the way doesn't mean they can't do business in New York State.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

If the governor of New York responds by telling the world that Olympic Arms and LaRue Tactical are not major suppliers to New York, this stunt could blow up in their faces.

Why do they have to be major suppliers?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Due the passing of this legislation, Olympic Arms would like to announce that the State of New York, any Law Enforcement Departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responders within the State of New York, or any New York State government entity or employee of such an entity - will no longer be served as customers.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Olympic Arms makes AR-type rifles and carbines, and is well-known for their pistol-caliber carbines in 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP and 10mm. These are popular with shooters everywhere but especially by police departments who like to consolidate calibers.
Olympic Arms Halts Sales to New York Law Enforcement

 

[LoneLaugher]

So....what dollar figure in sales are they passing on?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

So....what dollar figure in sales are they passing on?

Nothing they can't make up elsewhere.

 

[g5000]

"The State of New York...or any New York State government agency...will no longer be served as customers".

You have to be serving them to no longer serve them.


Since the State currently IS NOT a customer, and has not been for at least a six year period, this is a lie of omission, and calls into question the other claims in the statement that other entities in the state are customers.

It is an empty statement.

If Olympic Arms and LaRue Tactical were serving them, they would have included the revenues they receive from, and the equipment they provide to, New York.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

"The State of New York...or any New York State government agency...will no longer be served as customers".

You have to be serving them to no longer serve them.


Since the State currently IS NOT a customer, and has not been for at least a six year period, this is a lie of omission, and calls into question the other claims in the statement that other entities in the state are customers.

It is an empty statement.

You're a dumbass. I'll be back tomorrow to laugh at you some more.

 

[g5000]

Here are Olympic Arms' dealers: Distribution Network

Not a one in New York.

 

[g5000]

"The State of New York...or any New York State government agency...will no longer be served as customers".

You have to be serving them to no longer serve them.


Since the State currently IS NOT a customer, and has not been for at least a six year period, this is a lie of omission, and calls into question the other claims in the statement that other entities in the state are customers.

It is an empty statement.

You're a dumbass. I'll be back tomorrow to laugh at you some more.

Is that all you have in the face of the evidence? An ad hominem?

 

[g5000]

That's 2007 it's um now 2013.

Um, read again.

November 2007 through December 2012.

December 2012. Just a little over a month ago.

State of new york is the only law enforcement in the state of New York?

Look at the title of your own topic!

 

[LoneLaugher]

So....what dollar figure in sales are they passing on?

Nothing they can't make up elsewhere.

You mean........$0.00?

Dean Wormer would be proud of you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Um, read again.

November 2007 through December 2012.

December 2012. Just a little over a month ago.

State of new york is the only law enforcement in the state of New York?

Look at the title of your own topic!

How many Law Enforcement Departments, Sheriff departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responder's are within the State of New York

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Here are Olympic Arms' dealers: Distribution Network

Not a one in New York.

That's irrelevant.
You seem disparate to find a loophole around this subject.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"The State of New York...or any New York State government agency...will no longer be served as customers".

You have to be serving them to no longer serve them.


Since the State currently IS NOT a customer, and has not been for at least a six year period, this is a lie of omission, and calls into question the other claims in the statement that other entities in the state are customers.

It is an empty statement.

If Olympic Arms and LaRue Tactical were serving them, they would have included the revenues they receive from, and the equipment they provide to, New York.

Actually it says
Olympic Arms would like to announce that the State of New York, any Law Enforcement Departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responder's within the State of New York

 

[g5000]

State of new york is the only law enforcement in the state of New York?

Look at the title of your own topic!

How many Law Enforcement Departments, Sheriff departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responder's are within the State of New York

How many sales does Olympic Arms have with any of these?

You only specified the State government in your topic title. So I addressed that. I have shown they do not have any procurement contracts with the state.

Their statement is therefore false. They claimed they had sales to the state government. They do not.

They don't even have any distributors in the state of New York.

Therefore, their credibility is very low and any other claims of sales to any other entities in New York is therefore suspect.

You want to move the goalposts now? Show us they have any sales to any government agency in New York.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

"The State of New York...or any New York State government agency...will no longer be served as customers".

You have to be serving them to no longer serve them.


Since the State currently IS NOT a customer, and has not been for at least a six year period, this is a lie of omission, and calls into question the other claims in the statement that other entities in the state are customers.

It is an empty statement.

You're a dumbass. I'll be back tomorrow to laugh at you some more.

Is that all you have in the face of the evidence? An ad hominem?

It's all you deserve, you obviously don't understand business and how things work.

Within the state of New York Olympic Arms has four dealers.

 

[g5000]

Here are Olympic Arms' dealers: Distribution Network

Not a one in New York.

That's irrelevant.
You seem disparate to find a loophole around this subject.

You seem desperate to dodge the fact the entity in your topic title does not buy from either Olympic Arms or LaRue Tactical.

Claims were made in their statements which you seem to be unable to support with evidence.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Look at the title of your own topic!

How many Law Enforcement Departments, Sheriff departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responder's are within the State of New York

How many sales does Olympic Arms have with any of these?

You only specified the State government in your topic title. So I addressed that. I have shown they do not have any procurement contracts with the state.

Their statement is therefore false. They claimed they had sales to the state government. They do not.

They don't even have any distributors in the state of New York.

Therefore, their credibility is very low and any other claims of sales to any other entities in New York is therefore suspect.

You want to move the goalposts now? Show us they have any sales to any government agency in New York.

If you had read the god damn op you would have read this
Olympic Arms would like to announce that the State of New York, any Law Enforcement Departments, Law Enforcement Officers, First Responder's within the State of New York

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Here are Olympic Arms' dealers: Distribution Network

Not a one in New York.

That's irrelevant.
You seem disparate to find a loophole around this subject.

You seem desperate to dodge the fact the entity in your topic title does not buy from either Olympic Arms or LaRue Tactical.

Claims were made in their statements which you seem to be unable to support with evidence.

I'm not dodging anything you haven't proven but one thing you're desperate