Oopsies: If MAGA Republicans Are So Bad, Why Are Dems Funding Them?

[multivita-man]

Yeah, well, maybe they should pay attention to all the mass shootings and killings they have in Canada and try to do something about that and their other problems rather than mess around in our forums where they have no business being.

Oh wow, one mass stabbing in Canada and suddenly it's time to stick the ole chest out now, huh...

 

[Riff Raff]

Yes, "gender" applies to language. "Sex," does not, sex is about biology. In Spanish, the male or female gender is applied to nearly every noun, rather than nouns labeling non-living things being nearly always neuter as they are in English. In German, the neuter gender is often applied to living things, such as "Das Madchen" (girl), being neuter. So a German sentence literally translated as "the girl is not my daughter. It is my niece," would be correct.

Where do trannies come in, then?

They have co-opted the word "gender," as if it means "one's imagined sex" or "my choice of sex that I wish I were," or whatever they mean. If that had happened naturally, fine. Language changes gradually with use. Last century's slang is this century's correct English.

What I object to is the insisting on changes dreamt up week by week, and being lectured in a tone as if this is the norm and we should already know it before we heard that, for example, "-ette" is an offensive diminutive, or that "no can do," is a neo-colonialist appropriation of Spanish grammar, or that Spanish grammar itself is transphobic.

John Money, a "sexologist," first used the term “gender” as a human characteristic. Money introduced the terms gender identity, gender role and sexual orientation.

Money established the first clinic in the United States to perform sexual reassignment surgeries on both infants and adults.

David Reimer was Money's most famous case and it was fundamentally flawed. In 1966, a botched circumcision left eight-month-old Reimer without a penis. Money persuaded the baby's parents that sex reassignment surgery would be in Reimer's best interest. At the age of 22 months, Reimer's testicles were surgically removed. He was reassigned to be raised as female and his name changed from Bruce to Brenda. Money further recommended hormone treatment. Money published a number of papers reporting the reassignment as successful.

According to David Reimer's biography, starting when Reimer and his twin Brian were six years old, Money showed the brothers pornography and forced the two to rehearse sexual acts, with David playing the bottom role as Brian "[pressed] his crotch against" David's buttocks. Money also forced the two children to strip for "genital inspections" and would even photograph the twins doing these acts.

For several years, Money reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case", describing apparently "successful" female gender development and using this case to support the feasibility of sex reassignment and surgical reconstruction. His claim was not true. Money continued to misrepresent the results as a success for decades. By the time this was discovered, the idea of a purely socially constructed gender identity and infant Intersex medical interventions had become accepted theory in some circles.

At 14 years old and in extreme psychological agony, Reimer was finally told the truth by his parents. He chose to begin calling himself David, and he underwent surgical procedures to revert the female bodily modifications to normal.

David Reimer's case came to international attention in 1997 when he told his story to Milton Diamond, an academic sexologist, who persuaded Reimer to allow him to report the outcome in order to dissuade physicians from treating other infants similarly. Soon after, Reimer went public with his story, and John Colapinto published a widely disseminated and influential account in Rolling Stone magazine in December 1997. This was later expanded into The New York Times best-selling biography As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl (2000), in which Colapinto described how—contrary to Money's reports—when living as Brenda, Reimer did not identify as a girl. He was ostracised and bullied by peers (who dubbed him "cavewoman"), and neither frilly dresses nor female hormones made him feel female.

On July 1, 2002, Brian was found dead from an overdose of antidepressants. On May 4, 2004, after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and marital troubles, David committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a sawed-off shotgun at the age of 38. Reimer's parents have stated that Money's methodology was responsible for the deaths of both of their sons.

Money's unreported failure led to the surgical reassignment of thousands of infants as a matter of policy.

 

[multivita-man]

Well, the motivations for the politicians and MAGA media pundits is clear: Professional advancement. I don't know if they've convinced themselves that it won't go too far, or maybe they don't care.

That's craven. That's selling your soul.

Indeed it is craven. I think they probably do believe that it won't go too far, that they can reel it back in if it starts to go south. They have no idea what kind of fire they're playing with.

Rupert Murdoch needs to have his citizenship revoked and News Corp needs to become confiscated property.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The rebuttal writes itself:

If MAGA Republicans are that horrific, why would you vote for them (or support them) for any reason, even to win? I would never vote for a true Nazi, ever, just on the thought that maybe I'd win something. My conscience would forbid it.

So...is it that Democrats don't REALLY believe "MAGA Republicans" are that bad, or that they have no conscience other than "win at any cost"?

Demoleftists can’t win on ideas. They always need a scare tactic to get votes. It’s really pathetic.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Regarding the other topic, a tangent, “gender” is a social construct and biological sex is objective scientific reality.

My solution is to reject the work of the perverted monster John Money. “Gender” isn’t real - I reject your construct and I reject any society that tries to construct such a thing.

 

[CowboyTed]

It is not crooked and the people voted for it, it is not your place to tell them to get rid of it unless you live there

They will struggle to understand that you can't win without transfers and insulting others and rejecting reality doesn't help that...

They will hate it until they realise that they will find it harder to hijack a big party and they are better running one there own..

These people think if they loose it is a bad system... They want a system that makes them win, if there was a system that allowed voting weight by age or land size they would want it because they would win...
This isn't about fairness just can we win or not..

 

[Circe]

What I object to is the insisting on changes dreamt up week by week, and being lectured in a tone as if this is the norm and we should already know it before we heard that, for example, "-ette" is an offensive diminutive, or that "no can do," is a neo-colonialist appropriation of Spanish grammar, or that Spanish grammar itself is transphobic.

The worst thing, to me, is the illicitization of the word "woman." I'm a woman, and I'm not illicit. There was a piece on the Hill with the term "pregnant people" in the title. I think it's crucial to rescue to language from making woman a dirty word. I'm going to try to STOP using the words persons and people and use sexed language (yeah, not "gendered" language, SEXed language about sex). I suppose "persons" came in to make language more inclusive to include women, but now that has backfired badly with the convoluted trannie thing that men can really be women, or that women can pretend to be men even while they are having babies and nursing.

Nope. Just ------ nope. Not cooperating with that.

 

[Lesh]

It's the Left that's going Def Con 5 with their moral indignation...not the Right!

I guess you didn't read much of this thread...especially "SweetSue's"comments

I'm sorry but the GOP is not made up of Nazis. Fiscal conservatism does not equate to gas chambers and the Final Solution yet time after time Democrats keep trying to go there.

I have no idea what GOP you are talking about but it sure as hell isn't the CURRENT one

 

[Circe]

It’s true.

They wanted Trump to win the primary because Hillary wanted Trump to win the primary and they were entirely in the tank for Hillary.

I’d like to say that they got what they fucking deserved, but they didn’t, they were rewarded by relatively high ratings from angry leftists who wanted all negative Trump reporting all the time. They have lost so much money from Biden winning.

So much that CNN is getting rid of their anchors, nearly all I read, and MSNBC got rid of several --- and CNN is trying to become Fox Lite. Because that's where the money is.

Maybe we are winning; at least until Biden puts us all into concentration camps.

 

[CowboyTed]

And also one reason why so many movies are made about them and almost none about the Soviet Union, who outpaced them in genocide by a wide margin.

That's what they dream of doing to us.

But they'll be happy with locking you up for protesting, or breaking into your house and stealing your underwear.

Nazis killed more people than Stalin (or Soviet Union)...

Please educate yourself...

You could have gone for Chairman Mao and the Red Book, that was the biggest killer.. But too late now..

 

[Mac1958]

I think they probably do believe that it won't go too far, that they can reel it back in if it starts to go south. They have no idea what kind of fire they're playing with.

I often wonder about that too. I don't know how much direct contact they have with their rubes.

At this point, though, it's essentially willful ignorance on their part. They are directly complicit now.

 

[Circe]

Rupert Murdoch needs to have his citizenship revoked and News Corp needs to become confiscated property.

See, that's the concentration camp meme. This is where we may be going.

Of course, the poster is a Canadian, so they like leftist facism better than south of their border does, so we'll see.

 

[CowboyTed]

I guess you didn't read much of this thread...especially "SweetSue's"comments

I have no idea what GOP you are talking about but it sure as hell isn't the CURRENT one

Is someone trying to say GQP is the party of Fiscal Conservatism...


Even QAnon couldn't make that shit up...

 

[Circe]

They want a system that makes them win, if there was a system that allowed voting weight by age or land size they would want it because they would win...
This isn't about fairness just can we win or not..

There is a system for winning by land size ---------------------

We call it the Electoral College.

 

[multivita-man]

See, that's the concentration camp meme. This is where we may be going.

Of course, the poster is a Canadian, so they like leftist facism better than south of their border does, so we'll see.

Oh Gawd, concentration camps.

"First they came for Steve Doocey" lol

 

[BlueGin]

So much that CNN is getting rid of their anchors, nearly all I read, and MSNBC got rid of several --- and CNN is trying to become Fox Lite. Because that's where the money is.

Maybe we are winning; at least until Biden puts us all into concentration camps.

Not just the news networks. Several streaming services are dumping woke programming. It’s a loser.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Two (2).

denier!

 

[Circe]

Oh Gawd, concentration camps.

"First they came for Steve Doocey" lol

On the other hand, them coming for Steve Doocey would probably be good -----

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

So much that CNN is getting rid of their anchors, nearly all I read, and MSNBC got rid of several --- and CNN is trying to become Fox Lite. Because that's where the money is.

Maybe we are winning; at least until Biden puts us all into concentration camps.

CNN used to try to be mostly objective and neutral, they left partisan commentary to pundits that were guests or just had the show Crossfire where pundits would argue with each other.

I think it is smart for them to take a middle of the road approach and to let MSNBC and FOX do the primetime punditry. They could just hire hosts who have guests on but do not opine themselves.

It will take years for them to develop any kind of reputation for fairness and objectivity. And they could well fail to do so. But it would be good for them long term.

 

[Indeependent]

If MAGA Republicans are the absolute scourge Biden thinks they are, why are Democrats funding them? Huh.

YouTube, TikTok, Quora...lots of Ds are voting for Trump.