Oregon said Obama stay away..so guess who's coming to Roseburg?

[francoHFW]

5 times 2006-13

WTF are you babbling about? 5 times 2005 minus 13 = 10,017

Five times the GOP blocked laws against loophole from 2006 to 2013. Which 88% are for.

 

[JQPublic1]

"Wrong" is in the eye of the beholder and it seems the majority of voters agree with me. You are the epitome of "wrongness."We won twice. Care to comment.... go on, make my day!

*Winning* doesn't make you right, I'm afraid.

Nazis *won* too. At first.

And just who made YOU the arbiter of what is right or wrong in the political arena? If the majority of Americans decided Obama was their "man" who are you to dispute that? You are nobody...nothing but part of the minority of republican blue collar groupies who can't stand it that a mulatto democrat is in the White House. BTW, in this case "winning"does make me right.

Obama's not a supreme being. No, winning does not make you, or him, right, if you're just talking about votes.

The 67 percent majority in the town of Roseburg have resoundingly and repeatedly rejected Obama... and have SPECIFICALLY rejected his gun grabbing progressive policies. Which is why the area is so incredibly steamed over his inappropriate and unwarranted comment about using their kids to advertise for the disarming of Americans. THEY believe that their kids wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for anti-gun nonsense. Using your reasoning, they are in the majority in their voting demographic, so they must be right.

One could even argue that a DEMOCRAT school president put the illegal gun ban in place in order to PUT Republican kids at risk.

Are you introducing race into the discussion? If so that's evidence that you have run out of material.

Dispense with projections. No one is saying Obama is a supreme being. He is the US president, though, and as long as he holds that office he is due the respect that comes with it.
You and many others aren't going to respect the US president and many of you seem to love Putin the communist more than your own duly elected Christian leader.

ANTI-GUN? Obama has not said anything to make anyone believe he is ant-gun. He is for stricter control over who can buy guns legally. I do disagree with him on that point because guns are still going to be made and sold illegally to people who know how to circmvent the law. Obama is not trying to abrogate the 2nd amendment and take guns away...not even from nut jobs who already own them. They just won't be able to add to their already impressive arsenals if Obama get's his way. Responsible citizens will still be able to buy unlimited quantities but not those who don't pass the background checks. The latter mental cases will just be stuck with the ten or so weapons they already have.

First off is that respect is not given--respect is earned, and DumBama has not earned any respect simply because he became President.

Secondly you say that Obama is not anti-gun. In his address to the nation on this school shooting, he pointed to two of our allies (Australia and Great Britain) and doted on their success with firearms in their countries. Okay, so what was the key to their supposed success? They confiscated guns from all of their citizens.

I don't know who Dumbama is so I can't discuss anything concerning him.


I don't remember hearing Obama dote on the success of Great Britain or Australia in reference to firearms. Maybe I missed that part. However, neither did I not hear him make any statement that could even be construed to abrogate the 2nd Amendment. BTW, he couldn't do it anyway, he doesn't have the power. He merely suggested that voters use their power to select people/politicians who will reform gun control laws to keep legally obtained guns out of the hands of mentally ill or violent people. Trouble is, it is too late for that; but , that does not equate to taking guns away from anybody. Obama's plan merely seems to hinge on background checks for all future gun purchases; both private AND retail!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

*Winning* doesn't make you right, I'm afraid.

Nazis *won* too. At first.

And just who made YOU the arbiter of what is right or wrong in the political arena? If the majority of Americans decided Obama was their "man" who are you to dispute that? You are nobody...nothing but part of the minority of republican blue collar groupies who can't stand it that a mulatto democrat is in the White House. BTW, in this case "winning"does make me right.

Obama's not a supreme being. No, winning does not make you, or him, right, if you're just talking about votes.

The 67 percent majority in the town of Roseburg have resoundingly and repeatedly rejected Obama... and have SPECIFICALLY rejected his gun grabbing progressive policies. Which is why the area is so incredibly steamed over his inappropriate and unwarranted comment about using their kids to advertise for the disarming of Americans. THEY believe that their kids wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for anti-gun nonsense. Using your reasoning, they are in the majority in their voting demographic, so they must be right.

One could even argue that a DEMOCRAT school president put the illegal gun ban in place in order to PUT Republican kids at risk.

Are you introducing race into the discussion? If so that's evidence that you have run out of material.

Dispense with projections. No one is saying Obama is a supreme being. He is the US president, though, and as long as he holds that office he is due the respect that comes with it.
You and many others aren't going to respect the US president and many of you seem to love Putin the communist more than your own duly elected Christian leader.

ANTI-GUN? Obama has not said anything to make anyone believe he is ant-gun. He is for stricter control over who can buy guns legally. I do disagree with him on that point because guns are still going to be made and sold illegally to people who know how to circmvent the law. Obama is not trying to abrogate the 2nd amendment and take guns away...not even from nut jobs who already own them. They just won't be able to add to their already impressive arsenals if Obama get's his way. Responsible citizens will still be able to buy unlimited quantities but not those who don't pass the background checks. The latter mental cases will just be stuck with the ten or so weapons they already have.

First off is that respect is not given--respect is earned, and DumBama has not earned any respect simply because he became President.

Secondly you say that Obama is not anti-gun. In his address to the nation on this school shooting, he pointed to two of our allies (Australia and Great Britain) and doted on their success with firearms in their countries. Okay, so what was the key to their supposed success? They confiscated guns from all of their citizens.

I don't know who Dumbama is so I can't discuss anything concerning him.


I don't remember hearing Obama dote on the success of Great Britain or Australia in reference to firearms. Maybe I missed that part. However, neither did I not hear him make any statement that could even be construed to abrogate the 2nd Amendment. BTW, he couldn't do it anyway, he doesn't have the power. He merely suggested that voters use their power to select people/politicians who will reform gun control laws to keep legally obtained guns out of the hands of mentally ill or violent people. Trouble is, it is too late for that; but , that does not equate to taking guns away from anybody. Obama's plan merely seems to hinge on background checks for all future gun purchases; both private AND retail!

Your statement was that Obama is not anti-gun. I pointed out to you that he is anti-gun using his very own words.

You are correct that he himself could never outlaw guns. It's not because he wouldn't in a heartbeat, it's because he can't thanks to the Supreme Court and our Constitution that stops tyrants just like him. However he and several Democrats have made suggestions that would make it much harder and expensive for people to own guns. Thank God these people are not in power right now. And for anybody that wants to maintain our freedom of firearms, make sure Democrats never have leadership again.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If no one's opinion matters then why do you thrust in your worthless opinion?

I think you misunderstood my statement. I didn't say that no one's opinion matters....read my comment again. I said the publisher's opinion doesn't matter, and based on the OP, in this particular case.

Obama is going to politicize this and that is his choice. The families can do what they want that is their choice.

Obama is the President, whether you and other conservatives like it or not. That's what a President does, visit with the victims. I don't think conservatives considered it "politicizing" when Bush met with Katrina victims......in spite of the fact that he had literally abandoned them when they needed him the most.

The city made up of mainly conservatives will respect him and his visit because that town has always been classy.

We'll have to wait until Friday to find out.

Obama SAID he was politicizing it. He told a community that has always fought gun control, who just lost nine people on a GUN FREE campus, that he was going to use their dead loved ones to justify gun grabbing. Those ppl believe the advertisement of the campus as gun free is the REASON it was targeted. This is how tyranny rolls out.

We're only trying to get a law 88% are for, hater dupe. Liar and a disgrace. "Gun grabbing" my ass.

What specific law is that hater dupe? Has it been introduced in the House or the Senate. Then show us hater dupe, the polls find that exact running at 88%. Should be easy, otherwise you are a lying nutter.

1. Firearm Show Laws by State and "The Gun Show ...
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   Gun shows are a big part of ... those gun transfers are not regulated by law, ... GunShow Loophole. In 33 states, private gun owners are not restricted from ...
   
   
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   Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks ... Under the Gun Control Act of 1968, federal law clearly defined private sellers as ...

Great. Two laws that would accomplish absolutely nothing in regards to mass murders or even individual ones. Guns purchased from gun shows represent less than 1% of the firearms used in crimes.

"Folks, liberals measure success by intent, while we measure success by results."
Rush Limbaugh

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If no one's opinion matters then why do you thrust in your worthless opinion?

I think you misunderstood my statement. I didn't say that no one's opinion matters....read my comment again. I said the publisher's opinion doesn't matter, and based on the OP, in this particular case.

Obama is going to politicize this and that is his choice. The families can do what they want that is their choice.

Obama is the President, whether you and other conservatives like it or not. That's what a President does, visit with the victims. I don't think conservatives considered it "politicizing" when Bush met with Katrina victims......in spite of the fact that he had literally abandoned them when they needed him the most.

The city made up of mainly conservatives will respect him and his visit because that town has always been classy.

We'll have to wait until Friday to find out.

Which is another left-wing lie that no lib ever looked into.

But if you want to challenge me, I have video and news reports that the Governor refused help by Bush and never asked for it in the first place. The President can't invade a state simply because he thinks it's the right thing to do. He needs the request of the Governor in order to provide help.

Sure you do........it must be from Faux News and Briebart or some other conservative rag. I also have news reports also that claim even a Republican investigation put most of the blame on Bush.....did they lie?

Even "You did a great job Brownie" didn't mince words about Bush's actions.



5. An investigation by Congressional Republicans, while placing most of the blame on the Bush administration,


3. FEMA Director Michael Brown, who resigned over his handling of the response, later told a group of students that the White House only wanted to federalize the response in Louisiana, where the governor was a Democrat, and not in Republican-led Mississippi in order to embarrass Louisiana officials. Brown said the White House believed they had a chance to “rub [Kathleen Blanco’s] nose in it.” The Bush administration denied political considerations played a role in the response.





Read more: 10 facts about the Katrina response

Read more: 10 facts about the Katrina response
10 facts about the Katrina response

You're talking after the fact and not before or during. Before the fact is that the Governor didn't request federal help. When offered by Bush, she didn't respond.

OP- You haters have no cooth- That's close to treason- Heard of civility and class? And no hater bs about Obama. You are so over the line it has to be racism, bigotry, insanity or whatever you want to call it..

No, it's whatever you want to call it. I haven't been brainwashed into that racist bigotry thing by our politicians--you have.

 

[Old Rocks]

And just who made YOU the arbiter of what is right or wrong in the political arena? If the majority of Americans decided Obama was their "man" who are you to dispute that? You are nobody...nothing but part of the minority of republican blue collar groupies who can't stand it that a mulatto democrat is in the White House. BTW, in this case "winning"does make me right.

Obama's not a supreme being. No, winning does not make you, or him, right, if you're just talking about votes.

The 67 percent majority in the town of Roseburg have resoundingly and repeatedly rejected Obama... and have SPECIFICALLY rejected his gun grabbing progressive policies. Which is why the area is so incredibly steamed over his inappropriate and unwarranted comment about using their kids to advertise for the disarming of Americans. THEY believe that their kids wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for anti-gun nonsense. Using your reasoning, they are in the majority in their voting demographic, so they must be right.

One could even argue that a DEMOCRAT school president put the illegal gun ban in place in order to PUT Republican kids at risk.

Are you introducing race into the discussion? If so that's evidence that you have run out of material.

Dispense with projections. No one is saying Obama is a supreme being. He is the US president, though, and as long as he holds that office he is due the respect that comes with it.
You and many others aren't going to respect the US president and many of you seem to love Putin the communist more than your own duly elected Christian leader.

ANTI-GUN? Obama has not said anything to make anyone believe he is ant-gun. He is for stricter control over who can buy guns legally. I do disagree with him on that point because guns are still going to be made and sold illegally to people who know how to circmvent the law. Obama is not trying to abrogate the 2nd amendment and take guns away...not even from nut jobs who already own them. They just won't be able to add to their already impressive arsenals if Obama get's his way. Responsible citizens will still be able to buy unlimited quantities but not those who don't pass the background checks. The latter mental cases will just be stuck with the ten or so weapons they already have.

First off is that respect is not given--respect is earned, and DumBama has not earned any respect simply because he became President.

Secondly you say that Obama is not anti-gun. In his address to the nation on this school shooting, he pointed to two of our allies (Australia and Great Britain) and doted on their success with firearms in their countries. Okay, so what was the key to their supposed success? They confiscated guns from all of their citizens.

I don't know who Dumbama is so I can't discuss anything concerning him.


I don't remember hearing Obama dote on the success of Great Britain or Australia in reference to firearms. Maybe I missed that part. However, neither did I not hear him make any statement that could even be construed to abrogate the 2nd Amendment. BTW, he couldn't do it anyway, he doesn't have the power. He merely suggested that voters use their power to select people/politicians who will reform gun control laws to keep legally obtained guns out of the hands of mentally ill or violent people. Trouble is, it is too late for that; but , that does not equate to taking guns away from anybody. Obama's plan merely seems to hinge on background checks for all future gun purchases; both private AND retail!

Your statement was that Obama is not anti-gun. I pointed out to you that he is anti-gun using his very own words.

You are correct that he himself could never outlaw guns. It's not because he wouldn't in a heartbeat, it's because he can't thanks to the Supreme Court and our Constitution that stops tyrants just like him. However he and several Democrats have made suggestions that would make it much harder and expensive for people to own guns. Thank God these people are not in power right now. And for anybody that wants to maintain our freedom of firearms, make sure Democrats never have leadership again.

Man, look at your avatar. You obviously love force, and despise democracy and compromise. No, the idea is not to take the guns of most citizens, but to get the guns out of the hands of those that are mentally incompetant. Now it is easy to see why you are afraid, but for most of us, that is a good thing.

 

[Papageorgio]

If no one's opinion matters then why do you thrust in your worthless opinion?

I think you misunderstood my statement. I didn't say that no one's opinion matters....read my comment again. I said the publisher's opinion doesn't matter, and based on the OP, in this particular case.

Obama is going to politicize this and that is his choice. The families can do what they want that is their choice.

Obama is the President, whether you and other conservatives like it or not. That's what a President does, visit with the victims. I don't think conservatives considered it "politicizing" when Bush met with Katrina victims......in spite of the fact that he had literally abandoned them when they needed him the most.

The city made up of mainly conservatives will respect him and his visit because that town has always been classy.

We'll have to wait until Friday to find out.

Obama SAID he was politicizing it. He told a community that has always fought gun control, who just lost nine people on a GUN FREE campus, that he was going to use their dead loved ones to justify gun grabbing. Those ppl believe the advertisement of the campus as gun free is the REASON it was targeted. This is how tyranny rolls out.

We're only trying to get a law 88% are for, hater dupe. Liar and a disgrace. "Gun grabbing" my ass.

What specific law is that hater dupe? Has it been introduced in the House or the Senate. Then show us hater dupe, the polls find that exact running at 88%. Should be easy, otherwise you are a lying nutter.

Polls show what Americans think about gun control laws

88%, dumbass. Wrong again and always. But don't worry about reality, dupe.

What specific law? Come on you lose again! You are a laughable nutter?

 

[Papageorgio]

Which is another left-wing lie that no lib ever looked into.

But if you want to challenge me, I have video and news reports that the Governor refused help by Bush and never asked for it in the first place. The President can't invade a state simply because he thinks it's the right thing to do. He needs the request of the Governor in order to provide help.

Sure you do........it must be from Faux News and Briebart or some other conservative rag. I also have news reports also that claim even a Republican investigation put most of the blame on Bush.....did they lie?

Even "You did a great job Brownie" didn't mince words about Bush's actions.



5. An investigation by Congressional Republicans, while placing most of the blame on the Bush administration,


3. FEMA Director Michael Brown, who resigned over his handling of the response, later told a group of students that the White House only wanted to federalize the response in Louisiana, where the governor was a Democrat, and not in Republican-led Mississippi in order to embarrass Louisiana officials. Brown said the White House believed they had a chance to “rub [Kathleen Blanco’s] nose in it.” The Bush administration denied political considerations played a role in the response.





Read more: 10 facts about the Katrina response

Read more: 10 facts about the Katrina response
10 facts about the Katrina response

You're talking after the fact and not before or during. Before the fact is that the Governor didn't request federal help. When offered by Bush, she didn't respond.

OP- You haters have no cooth- That's close to treason- Heard of civility and class? And no hater bs about Obama. You are so over the line it has to be racism, bigotry, insanity or whatever you want to call it..

Yeah, you are a left wing nutter nobody, you have no voice, we get little boy, now run home crying to your mommy.

You never get tired of looking like a total dupe...
Polls show what Americans think about gun control laws

88%, dumbass. Wrong again and always. But don't worry about reality, dupe.

Racist people like yourself like to talk in general terms I asked for specific laws and specific polls on those laws and you come up with the general BS. So you got nothing.

 

[Ernie S.]

5 times 2006-13

WTF are you babbling about? 5 times 2005 minus 13 = 10,017

Five times the GOP blocked laws against loophole from 2006 to 2013. Which 88% are for.

Well say that idiot. Believe it or not, people here are just like you. We usually have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[Ernie S.]

*Winning* doesn't make you right, I'm afraid.

Nazis *won* too. At first.

And just who made YOU the arbiter of what is right or wrong in the political arena? If the majority of Americans decided Obama was their "man" who are you to dispute that? You are nobody...nothing but part of the minority of republican blue collar groupies who can't stand it that a mulatto democrat is in the White House. BTW, in this case "winning"does make me right.

Obama's not a supreme being. No, winning does not make you, or him, right, if you're just talking about votes.

The 67 percent majority in the town of Roseburg have resoundingly and repeatedly rejected Obama... and have SPECIFICALLY rejected his gun grabbing progressive policies. Which is why the area is so incredibly steamed over his inappropriate and unwarranted comment about using their kids to advertise for the disarming of Americans. THEY believe that their kids wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for anti-gun nonsense. Using your reasoning, they are in the majority in their voting demographic, so they must be right.

One could even argue that a DEMOCRAT school president put the illegal gun ban in place in order to PUT Republican kids at risk.

Are you introducing race into the discussion? If so that's evidence that you have run out of material.

Dispense with projections. No one is saying Obama is a supreme being. He is the US president, though, and as long as he holds that office he is due the respect that comes with it.
You and many others aren't going to respect the US president and many of you seem to love Putin the communist more than your own duly elected Christian leader.

ANTI-GUN? Obama has not said anything to make anyone believe he is ant-gun. He is for stricter control over who can buy guns legally. I do disagree with him on that point because guns are still going to be made and sold illegally to people who know how to circmvent the law. Obama is not trying to abrogate the 2nd amendment and take guns away...not even from nut jobs who already own them. They just won't be able to add to their already impressive arsenals if Obama get's his way. Responsible citizens will still be able to buy unlimited quantities but not those who don't pass the background checks. The latter mental cases will just be stuck with the ten or so weapons they already have.

First off is that respect is not given--respect is earned, and DumBama has not earned any respect simply because he became President.

Secondly you say that Obama is not anti-gun. In his address to the nation on this school shooting, he pointed to two of our allies (Australia and Great Britain) and doted on their success with firearms in their countries. Okay, so what was the key to their supposed success? They confiscated guns from all of their citizens.

I don't know who Dumbama is so I can't discuss anything concerning him.


I don't remember hearing Obama dote on the success of Great Britain or Australia in reference to firearms. Maybe I missed that part. However, neither did I not hear him make any statement that could even be construed to abrogate the 2nd Amendment. BTW, he couldn't do it anyway, he doesn't have the power. He merely suggested that voters use their power to select people/politicians who will reform gun control laws to keep legally obtained guns out of the hands of mentally ill or violent people. Trouble is, it is too late for that; but , that does not equate to taking guns away from anybody. Obama's plan merely seems to hinge on background checks for all future gun purchases; both private AND retail!

Look dummy! Show me one law; any law, that the mentally ill and violent people will obey. How many damn laws does it take to say "Thou shalt now kill"?

 

[koshergrl]

KEZI.com | Obama Boards Air Force One to Oregon

 

[koshergrl]

Some in Roseburg divided over Obama visit

 

[koshergrl]

They keep using the word "some" to downplay it, it's hilarious.

 

[koshergrl]

"Have your say

Has the shooting at UCC changed your views on additional gun control?

• Yes, I'm now for it8%
• Yes, I'm now against it4%
• No, I'm still for it27%
• No, I'm still against it58%
• Undecided3%"

From a local view poll.

Gun control

 

[JQPublic1]

And just who made YOU the arbiter of what is right or wrong in the political arena? If the majority of Americans decided Obama was their "man" who are you to dispute that? You are nobody...nothing but part of the minority of republican blue collar groupies who can't stand it that a mulatto democrat is in the White House. BTW, in this case "winning"does make me right.

Obama's not a supreme being. No, winning does not make you, or him, right, if you're just talking about votes.

The 67 percent majority in the town of Roseburg have resoundingly and repeatedly rejected Obama... and have SPECIFICALLY rejected his gun grabbing progressive policies. Which is why the area is so incredibly steamed over his inappropriate and unwarranted comment about using their kids to advertise for the disarming of Americans. THEY believe that their kids wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for anti-gun nonsense. Using your reasoning, they are in the majority in their voting demographic, so they must be right.

One could even argue that a DEMOCRAT school president put the illegal gun ban in place in order to PUT Republican kids at risk.

Are you introducing race into the discussion? If so that's evidence that you have run out of material.

Dispense with projections. No one is saying Obama is a supreme being. He is the US president, though, and as long as he holds that office he is due the respect that comes with it.
You and many others aren't going to respect the US president and many of you seem to love Putin the communist more than your own duly elected Christian leader.

ANTI-GUN? Obama has not said anything to make anyone believe he is ant-gun. He is for stricter control over who can buy guns legally. I do disagree with him on that point because guns are still going to be made and sold illegally to people who know how to circmvent the law. Obama is not trying to abrogate the 2nd amendment and take guns away...not even from nut jobs who already own them. They just won't be able to add to their already impressive arsenals if Obama get's his way. Responsible citizens will still be able to buy unlimited quantities but not those who don't pass the background checks. The latter mental cases will just be stuck with the ten or so weapons they already have.

First off is that respect is not given--respect is earned, and DumBama has not earned any respect simply because he became President.

Secondly you say that Obama is not anti-gun. In his address to the nation on this school shooting, he pointed to two of our allies (Australia and Great Britain) and doted on their success with firearms in their countries. Okay, so what was the key to their supposed success? They confiscated guns from all of their citizens.

I don't know who Dumbama is so I can't discuss anything concerning him.


I don't remember hearing Obama dote on the success of Great Britain or Australia in reference to firearms. Maybe I missed that part. However, neither did I not hear him make any statement that could even be construed to abrogate the 2nd Amendment. BTW, he couldn't do it anyway, he doesn't have the power. He merely suggested that voters use their power to select people/politicians who will reform gun control laws to keep legally obtained guns out of the hands of mentally ill or violent people. Trouble is, it is too late for that; but , that does not equate to taking guns away from anybody. Obama's plan merely seems to hinge on background checks for all future gun purchases; both private AND retail!

Your statement was that Obama is not anti-gun. I pointed out to you that he is anti-gun using his very own words.

You are correct that he himself could never outlaw guns. It's not because he wouldn't in a heartbeat, it's because he can't thanks to the Supreme Court and our Constitution that stops tyrants just like him. However he and several Democrats have made suggestions that would make it much harder and expensive for people to own guns. Thank God these people are not in power right now. And for anybody that wants to maintain our freedom of firearms, make sure Democrats never have leadership again.

I stand by my statement. I heard Obama speak on the matter and he didn't say anything about confiscating people's guns. But obviously, with the latest rash of mass shootings a lot of people are looking for some kind of answer. Should the chief executive remain silent on the issue and face criticism for being insensitive? I think he would have fared better if he had. Obama, being a lame duck, has nothing to gain at this juncture by speaking out on this issue. By stepping up to address what he perceives as a national problem, Obama is showing genuine concern.

Lets face it, I like guns and have several of my own. I value the 2nd Amendment as much as anyone. But we must address this mass shooter syndrome now affecting virtually every corner of America and occurring with increasing frequency. No one has an answer that makes any sense... Not Obama and the democrats, not the GOP or the NRA. The Constitution keeps getting in the way as you said and Americans are not going to stand for an outright prohibition of firearms. Obama knows that and he knows the consequences of going against the grain.
That is why I suspect you took some of what the president said and twisted it into what you wanted to hear; then your mind parlayed that into something nefarious such as " Obama is going after muh gunz."

 

[koshergrl]

Obama's not a supreme being. No, winning does not make you, or him, right, if you're just talking about votes.

The 67 percent majority in the town of Roseburg have resoundingly and repeatedly rejected Obama... and have SPECIFICALLY rejected his gun grabbing progressive policies. Which is why the area is so incredibly steamed over his inappropriate and unwarranted comment about using their kids to advertise for the disarming of Americans. THEY believe that their kids wouldn't be dead if it wasn't for anti-gun nonsense. Using your reasoning, they are in the majority in their voting demographic, so they must be right.

One could even argue that a DEMOCRAT school president put the illegal gun ban in place in order to PUT Republican kids at risk.

Are you introducing race into the discussion? If so that's evidence that you have run out of material.

Dispense with projections. No one is saying Obama is a supreme being. He is the US president, though, and as long as he holds that office he is due the respect that comes with it.
You and many others aren't going to respect the US president and many of you seem to love Putin the communist more than your own duly elected Christian leader.

ANTI-GUN? Obama has not said anything to make anyone believe he is ant-gun. He is for stricter control over who can buy guns legally. I do disagree with him on that point because guns are still going to be made and sold illegally to people who know how to circmvent the law. Obama is not trying to abrogate the 2nd amendment and take guns away...not even from nut jobs who already own them. They just won't be able to add to their already impressive arsenals if Obama get's his way. Responsible citizens will still be able to buy unlimited quantities but not those who don't pass the background checks. The latter mental cases will just be stuck with the ten or so weapons they already have.

First off is that respect is not given--respect is earned, and DumBama has not earned any respect simply because he became President.

Secondly you say that Obama is not anti-gun. In his address to the nation on this school shooting, he pointed to two of our allies (Australia and Great Britain) and doted on their success with firearms in their countries. Okay, so what was the key to their supposed success? They confiscated guns from all of their citizens.

I don't know who Dumbama is so I can't discuss anything concerning him.


I don't remember hearing Obama dote on the success of Great Britain or Australia in reference to firearms. Maybe I missed that part. However, neither did I not hear him make any statement that could even be construed to abrogate the 2nd Amendment. BTW, he couldn't do it anyway, he doesn't have the power. He merely suggested that voters use their power to select people/politicians who will reform gun control laws to keep legally obtained guns out of the hands of mentally ill or violent people. Trouble is, it is too late for that; but , that does not equate to taking guns away from anybody. Obama's plan merely seems to hinge on background checks for all future gun purchases; both private AND retail!

Your statement was that Obama is not anti-gun. I pointed out to you that he is anti-gun using his very own words.

You are correct that he himself could never outlaw guns. It's not because he wouldn't in a heartbeat, it's because he can't thanks to the Supreme Court and our Constitution that stops tyrants just like him. However he and several Democrats have made suggestions that would make it much harder and expensive for people to own guns. Thank God these people are not in power right now. And for anybody that wants to maintain our freedom of firearms, make sure Democrats never have leadership again.

I stand by my statement. I heard Obama speak on the matter and he didn't say anything about confiscating people's guns. But obviously, with the latest rash of mass shootings a lot of people are looking for some kind of answer. Should the chief executive remain silent on the issue and face criticism for being insensitive? I think he would have fared better if he had. Obama, being a lame duck, has nothing to gain at this juncture by speaking out on this issue. By stepping up to address what he perceives as a national problem, Obama is showing genuine concern.

Lets face it, I like guns and have several of my own. I value the 2nd Amendment as much as anyone. But we must address this mass shooter syndrome now affecting virtually every corner of America and occurring with increasing frequency. No one has an answer that makes any sense... Not Obama and the democrats, not the GOP or the NRA. The Constitution keeps getting in the way as you said and Americans are not going to stand for an outright prohibition of firearms. Obama knows that and he knows the consequences of going against the grain.
That is why I suspect you took some of what the president said and twisted it into what you wanted to hear; then your mind parlayed that into something nefarious such as " Obama is going after muh gunz."

Obama is going after our guns, and the people of Roseburg lost 9 students to those insane policies.

 

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Newspaper headlines: Headless Horse's Ass to Visit Oregon.

 

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Eat a Snickers people..