Question from a non-American. Do you guys really hate each other?

[AntonToo]

Yes, it has come down to hate

Our political system used to rely on compromise. I’ll give a little, you give a little and we will meet somewhere in the middle

Now a win/win solution can’t be tolerated because it allows the other side to win also

Thats a lie. The only compromise was from the right. The left got their wishes, from abortion to welfare, to gay marriage to divorce. And when the right finally said "enough", the left called us Nazi's.

Prove me wrong. Give me a list of the "compromises" the right has won over the years.

Mark

Abortion rights are limited, access is very limited in a lot of red states - thats a compromise for the left.

Taxes are historically way down - thats a compromise for the left.

No public option or single payer in healthcare - thats a compromise for the left.

Higher education tuition is still expensive - thats a compromise for the left.

Minimum wage is way down in real terms since the 60's - thats a compromise for the left.

Shall I go on?

Yes, because those are not something you compromised with the right on. You act like conservatives WANT high tuition. Just the existence of a minimum wage is a liberal win. As is Obamacare.

You are arguing degrees of change, not policy changes.

Mark

High taxes vs Low taxes is a question of degree.

Between abortion being available on demand and abortion being illegal there are degrees.

Between federal governement subsidizing all education and Federal government not subsidizing any education there are degrees.

Low minimum wage and high minimum wage is a matter of degree.

Medicare being available to some, or all - is a matter of degree.


So your binary thinking is wrong, policy change primarily happens in degrees - it is very important and absolutely there are many areas where liberals are not getting what they want just as there are many areas where conservatives do not get what they want.

Nope. The push back is a "carving out" of requirements to pursue an activity. Is not abortion the law of the land? Or gay marriage? How about welfare? Medicare? Social Security?

What the right is doing is fighting the left to maintain some of the control that the right "compromised" on.

Your turn.

Mark

Nice word salad.

Anyway you are full of crap - liberals certainly don't get eveything they want and there are plenty of compromises I've directly listed to you that you are selectively ignoring.

 

[80zephyr]

Thats a lie. The only compromise was from the right. The left got their wishes, from abortion to welfare, to gay marriage to divorce. And when the right finally said "enough", the left called us Nazi's.

Prove me wrong. Give me a list of the "compromises" the right has won over the years.

Mark

Abortion rights are limited, access is very limited in a lot of red states - thats a compromise for the left.

Taxes are historically way down - thats a compromise for the left.

No public option or single payer in healthcare - thats a compromise for the left.

Higher education tuition is still expensive - thats a compromise for the left.

Minimum wage is way down in real terms since the 60's - thats a compromise for the left.

Shall I go on?

Yes, because those are not something you compromised with the right on. You act like conservatives WANT high tuition. Just the existence of a minimum wage is a liberal win. As is Obamacare.

You are arguing degrees of change, not policy changes.

Mark

High taxes vs Low taxes is a question of degree.

Between abortion being available on demand and abortion being illegal there are degrees.

Between federal governement subsidizing all education and Federal government not subsidizing any education there are degrees.

Low minimum wage and high minimum wage is a matter of degree.

Medicare being available to some, or all - is a matter of degree.


So your binary thinking is wrong, policy change primarily happens in degrees - it is very important and absolutely there are many areas where liberals are not getting what they want just as there are many areas where conservatives do not get what they want.

Nope. The push back is a "carving out" of requirements to pursue an activity. Is not abortion the law of the land? Or gay marriage? How about welfare? Medicare? Social Security?

What the right is doing is fighting the left to maintain some of the control that the right "compromised" on.

Your turn.

Mark

Nice word salad.

Anyway you are full of crap - liberals certainly don't get eveything they want and there are plenty of compromises I've directly listed to you that you are selectively ignoring.

I'm not ignoring anything. You are. Of course, the left doesn't have "everything" they want. Just the major, major, major stuff.

Doesn't change the facts as to who has compromised and who hasn't.

Mark

 

[AntonToo]

Abortion rights are limited, access is very limited in a lot of red states - thats a compromise for the left.

Taxes are historically way down - thats a compromise for the left.

No public option or single payer in healthcare - thats a compromise for the left.

Higher education tuition is still expensive - thats a compromise for the left.

Minimum wage is way down in real terms since the 60's - thats a compromise for the left.

Shall I go on?

Yes, because those are not something you compromised with the right on. You act like conservatives WANT high tuition. Just the existence of a minimum wage is a liberal win. As is Obamacare.

You are arguing degrees of change, not policy changes.

Mark

High taxes vs Low taxes is a question of degree.

Between abortion being available on demand and abortion being illegal there are degrees.

Between federal governement subsidizing all education and Federal government not subsidizing any education there are degrees.

Low minimum wage and high minimum wage is a matter of degree.

Medicare being available to some, or all - is a matter of degree.


So your binary thinking is wrong, policy change primarily happens in degrees - it is very important and absolutely there are many areas where liberals are not getting what they want just as there are many areas where conservatives do not get what they want.

Nope. The push back is a "carving out" of requirements to pursue an activity. Is not abortion the law of the land? Or gay marriage? How about welfare? Medicare? Social Security?

What the right is doing is fighting the left to maintain some of the control that the right "compromised" on.

Your turn.

Mark

Nice word salad.

Anyway you are full of crap - liberals certainly don't get eveything they want and there are plenty of compromises I've directly listed to you that you are selectively ignoring.

I'm not ignoring anything.

Ok taxes way down and no single payer halthcare - GO.

 

[iceberg]

Thats a lie. The only compromise was from the right. The left got their wishes, from abortion to welfare, to gay marriage to divorce. And when the right finally said "enough", the left called us Nazi's.

Prove me wrong. Give me a list of the "compromises" the right has won over the years.

Mark

Abortion rights are limited, access is very limited in a lot of red states - thats a compromise for the left.

Taxes are historically way down - thats a compromise for the left.

No public option or single payer in healthcare - thats a compromise for the left.

Higher education tuition is still expensive - thats a compromise for the left.

Minimum wage is way down in real terms since the 60's - thats a compromise for the left.

Shall I go on?

Yes, because those are not something you compromised with the right on. You act like conservatives WANT high tuition. Just the existence of a minimum wage is a liberal win. As is Obamacare.

You are arguing degrees of change, not policy changes.

Mark

High taxes vs Low taxes is a question of degree.

Between abortion being available on demand and abortion being illegal there are degrees.

Between federal governement subsidizing all education and Federal government not subsidizing any education there are degrees.

Low minimum wage and high minimum wage is a matter of degree.

Medicare being available to some, or all - is a matter of degree.


So your binary thinking is wrong, policy change primarily happens in degrees - it is very important and absolutely there are many areas where liberals are not getting what they want just as there are many areas where conservatives do not get what they want.

Nope. The push back is a "carving out" of requirements to pursue an activity. Is not abortion the law of the land? Or gay marriage? How about welfare? Medicare? Social Security?

What the right is doing is fighting the left to maintain some of the control that the right "compromised" on.

Your turn.

Mark

Nice word salad.

Anyway you are full of crap - liberals certainly don't get eveything they want and there are plenty of compromises I've directly listed to you that you are selectively ignoring.

from your own examples of "compromise" - i call it "defeat" cause as soon as the dems get back in power they're going to change it all to the way they want it. when done and the (R's) come back, they'll change it again.

it's only compromise when it's over and a final solution is designed that will stay. it's putting off the fight if you're going to change it as soon as you can which is NOT compromise.

 

[Rigby5]

I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?

Yes, people in the US do hate each other extremely!

The US has the greatest % imprisoned in the world, the illegal war on drugs, illegal invasions of other countries, no public health care, unaffordable tuition, gated communities, police recruited from the military, asset forfeiture, corrupt politicians, police, and judges, etc.
The wealthy pay almost no taxes because they can use write offs like real estate, capital gains, etc.
It is not between states, racial, or religious.
It is class warfare, with the wealthy abusing the poor.
The well be a rebellion eventually, and it is long overdue.

 

[80zephyr]

Yes, because those are not something you compromised with the right on. You act like conservatives WANT high tuition. Just the existence of a minimum wage is a liberal win. As is Obamacare.

You are arguing degrees of change, not policy changes.

Mark

High taxes vs Low taxes is a question of degree.

Between abortion being available on demand and abortion being illegal there are degrees.

Between federal governement subsidizing all education and Federal government not subsidizing any education there are degrees.

Low minimum wage and high minimum wage is a matter of degree.

Medicare being available to some, or all - is a matter of degree.


So your binary thinking is wrong, policy change primarily happens in degrees - it is very important and absolutely there are many areas where liberals are not getting what they want just as there are many areas where conservatives do not get what they want.

Nope. The push back is a "carving out" of requirements to pursue an activity. Is not abortion the law of the land? Or gay marriage? How about welfare? Medicare? Social Security?

What the right is doing is fighting the left to maintain some of the control that the right "compromised" on.

Your turn.

Mark

Nice word salad.

Anyway you are full of crap - liberals certainly don't get eveything they want and there are plenty of compromises I've directly listed to you that you are selectively ignoring.

I'm not ignoring anything.

Ok taxes way down and no single payer halthcare - GO.

Lol, Deflection. Show me which conservative values that the left has compromised on?

Mark

 

[Papageorgio]

I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?

The right hates everyone that they feel doesn't measure up to their archaic standards.

The left just wants the best for everyone.

Now that is pretty funny, great myth!

 

[Papageorgio]

There’s far more hatred from the “fly over” crowd towards the “coastal elites” than the other way around.

Riots after a Presidential election, a Republican Senator shot at a baseball game, a women slamming into another car because of a Trump bumper sticker, ANTIFA, a man's car set on fire because of a Trump bumper sticker, denied service in a restaurant because you support a President, a man harassed because of his MAGA hat, a teen harassed because of a MAGA hat.

Sorry, I don't buy into your claim, I think your partisan agenda seems to have taken over.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

View attachment 238989

Does that apply to innocent babies in their mother's womb?

Derp.....
Sure. Only liberals get abortions.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

LOL

Personally you can associate with whom you wish.

Public policy needs to be all inclusive.

when hasnt it,,,as long as they want to be americans they are welcome from anywhere


and like I said there is no muslim ban there is no refugee ban there is no immigrant ban

LOL

The courts killed the bans, fool.

There's no defacto immigrant ban on the border now? No stalling of asylum applications?
No crisis?

when you enter a country caring a foreign flag you are an invader not an immigrant,,,and they could have filed for asylum in the own countries without walking 1500 miles but they chose not to

immigrants are entering the country by the hundreds everyday,,,legally

and the bans were to specific countries based on their active terrorist population and not just because they were muslims,,,in fact there are several muslim countries that were not on the list

Sure.

All conservative policies.

please be specific.,,,,

I did. You responded to them. Open the quote boxes.

 

[francoHFW]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

 

[progressive hunter]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

you sound like a bigot,,,

 

[francoHFW]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

you sound like a bigot,,,

Everyone in the world paying attention and not brainwashed by GOP BSknows you are nuts. LOL

 

[francoHFW]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

you sound like a bigot,,,

Bigoted against your lies you betcha... Breaking Hillary Obama the foundation are honest, and the rich do not pay enough in taxes if you count all taxes, super duper. The richest pay the same percentage in taxes as the middle class and are getting all the new wealth, while everyone else is going slowly to hell... For 35 years now...

 

[Stormy Daniels]

I am not American

No kidding.

Novorossiysk, Russia (RUNVS) - Port Calls and Expected Vessels - VesselFinder

 

[progressive hunter]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

you sound like a bigot,,,

Bigoted against your lies you betcha... Breaking Hillary Obama the foundation are honest, and the rich do not pay enough in taxes if you count all taxes, super duper. The richest pay the same percentage in taxes as the middle class and are getting all the new wealth, while everyone else is going slowly to hell... 35 to 50 years now...

hey I aint no GOP hack,,I agree they suck ,,,but your rant is incoherent and lacking in rational thought because I'm guessing you think democrats are honest or better

 

[francoHFW]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

you sound like a bigot,,,

Bigoted against your lies you betcha... Breaking Hillary Obama the foundation are honest, and the rich do not pay enough in taxes if you count all taxes, super duper. The richest pay the same percentage in taxes as the middle class and are getting all the new wealth, while everyone else is going slowly to hell... 35 to 50 years now...

hey I aint no GOP hack,,I agree they suck ,,,but your rant is incoherent and lacking in rational thought because I'm guessing you think democrats are honest or better

Everything you know against Democrats is GOP b******* but never reaches the real world of law enforcement or journalism. Everything bad you know about the GOP is fact and often comes directly from law enforcement. And no it is not a conspiracy. Trump's lawyers are in prison for good reason oh, I'd like lock her up garbage or anything bad about Obama holder Lerner the FBI etc etc. Without garbage propaganda the GOP has nothing.

 

[progressive hunter]

Perhaps Australians don't know Americans have a GOP propaganda machine of hate character assassination and phony scandals that have never reached the real world of Journalism and law enforcement, and have never been retracted. GOP dupes believe Hillary Obama holder Lerner the FBI the CIA are all criminal and in a conspiracy against them. Who needs evidence or innocent until proven guilty? They are totally out of their minds at this point. About twenty-five 30% of the population. Reagan ended the fairness doctrine that mandated opposing opinion on radio and TV. So now we have Fox News primetime and demagogues like Rush Limbaugh Savage Levin etc etc etc. A disgrace.

you sound like a bigot,,,

Bigoted against your lies you betcha... Breaking Hillary Obama the foundation are honest, and the rich do not pay enough in taxes if you count all taxes, super duper. The richest pay the same percentage in taxes as the middle class and are getting all the new wealth, while everyone else is going slowly to hell... 35 to 50 years now...

hey I aint no GOP hack,,I agree they suck ,,,but your rant is incoherent and lacking in rational thought because I'm guessing you think democrats are honest or better

Everything you know against Democrats is GOP b******* but never reaches the real world of law enforcement or journalism. Everything bad you know about the GOP is fact and often comes directly from law enforcement. And no it is not a conspiracy. Trump's lawyers are in prison for good reason oh, I'd like lock her up garbage or anything bad about Obama holder Lerner the FBI etc etc. Without garbage propaganda the GOP has nothing.

YOU SIR ARE FUCKING NUTS!!!!

 

[Crixus]

I am not American but I do find American politics to be quite interesting in a sort of soap opera sort of way but one thing I really don't get is in America, unlike my own country (Australia) there seems to be a genuine hatred between the left and right, as in both would love to completely destroy the other and pretty much hate everything that the other side stands for.

I know my country the left wing party (Labor) and the right wing party (Liberals) are not too far away from each other politically, and while there is a lot of animosity there is not really any hatred. In America though I get the impression that the Republicans would have welcomed a recession when Obama was in charge as that way he would have been blamed, and Democrats would welcome a market crash now because he would be blamed, it seemingly not mattering that your country would be falling down a toilet, as long as the other side gets the blame for it.

Admittedly I don't know the politics of every fully Democratic nation, that would be impossible, but as far as I know America is quite unique in just how much both sides hate each other.

My question is do both sides genuinely hate each other, would each side be happy to see America burn if they could blame the other side, and if this is the case?

I also must admit that the differences between the US states is quite amazing. I go from one state in my own country to another, and basically they are the same, more or less anyway, but in America I get the feeling that New York and California are so different to Texas and Alabama that they may as well be in different countries in terms of beliefs and general ideology on almost every issue. I find it amazing that these states are in the same country as it almost feels as convoluted as the Austro-Hungarian empire, with dozens of different ethnic groups within the one country, all wanting very different things and none of them feeling that united.

So my general question is how divided is America, is it so divided that one side of politics would love to see America enter a deep depression just so the other political party could be blamed for it, and if so is that a healthy situation to be in?

Not that I am advocating for it, but with the massive differences between the red and the blue states America from an outsiders point of view seems like it is in a very unhappy marriage where both parties are staying together for the sake of the children, but end up fighting a lot in front of the children and making them cry so I wonder, if what I am saying is remotely accurate why isn't there more talk about an amicable divorce, where the blue states go their own way and the red states go another, where both sides can go the direction they want to go and seemingly not being held back by the other side.

I mean, do the people of Alabama really care that much about the people of New York, or vice-versa? Also is politics and America in general as divided as I have made out, or is America more like siblings who hate each other and will kick the crap out of each other but deep down love each other as well, even though they would never admit it?

I don't like saying it, but I do think our ends of the spectrum really do hate each other.

Ironically, they share many behaviors, and that probably makes them even more angry.

Personal insults, name-calling, hyperbole, distortion, straw man arguments, tribalism, denial. It's all the same stuff.

Imagine going through life, being so similar in behaviors to those you loathe.
.

Not that I have noticed UNTIL, politics comes up. Then two people who were fine will hate each other. I would still live here over Australia any day of the week.

 

[Dragonlady]

compromise is whats destroyed this country, rule of law is what made it great,,,ie the constitution

How ironic that you would criticize compromise, and then immediately invoke the Constitution, the greatest document written and the product of compromise, collaboration and innovation.
.

a great example of people to ignore. they're here / exist only to cause disruption.

stop letting them.

so wanting the rule of law and constitution followed is now disruption???


we know how back stabbing liars hate being disrupted


progs need to go back to mother russia where you are welcome

American progs are too far left to be Russian Communists.

The MEDIA, Entertainment Industry, and Hollywood drives this perception, and is the basis for a lot of problems in the U.S. I don't believe on a PERSONAL level that we hate each other. I do believe we have a huge difference it what we want America to be. The Right wants to remain a Constitutional Republic, where Capitalism, Freedom. Liberty, and personal responsibility, and opportunity drive society. The Left wants big government to Social Engineer to correct perceived past wrongs, drive the economy, and GOVERN/Control people.

We just have a very different vision for what our country should be.

The almost entirely leftist-run media broadcasts a skewed version of reality.

First off, the media isn't "leftist-run". That's another right wing lie, and the version of reality they broadcast is what we, in the rest of the world call FACTS.

I say this as a non-American who does not consume America media, and it is the right wing media which is portraying an alternate reality to what everyone else in the world sees.