Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus

[Meriweather]

yes----it is a typical Jewish teaching for centuries even
before Jesus was born----it get poetic in Hebrew--the poems
go on ADINFINITUM from august thru september (approx.)

Are you just learning this? I take it a Rabbi was never invited to speak in any of your catechism classes?

 

[irosie91]

Learned that in parochial school from both priests and nuns. We got into the political aspects during a Bible study I did as an adult. Why?

oh GOOD----you are the very first Catholic person I ever
encountered who had any grasp at all of the issue. Apparently
it is not taught in the Divinity school of Seton Hall

 

[Meriweather]

oh GOOD----you are the very first Catholic person I ever
encountered who had any grasp at all of the issue. Apparently
it is not taught in the Divinity school of Seton Hall

Shrug. I am not that much of an anomaly. I know people who know so much more than I have ever picked up.

 

[irosie91]

Are you just learning this? I take it a Rabbi was never invited to speak in any of your catechism classes?

to what are you referring----the "PRAYER, CHARITY, AND REPENTENCE" thing? even as a kid who never so much as
attended the two hour stint twice per week called HEBREW
SCHOOL------I had enough of "PRAYER, CHARITY, AND REPENTENCE" in my few times per year in synagogues to know
from whence it came. Try asking a protestant sunday school
attendee. Don't even bother to ask a catholic school girl

 

[irosie91]

Shrug. I am not that much of an anomaly. I know people who know so much more than I have ever picked up.

oh-----when did that begin to happen? Maybe with Pope John
XXIII-----well, as far as I can tell----it hasn't CAUGHT ON YET

 

[Meriweather]

oh-----

Interests and studies vary.

 

[irosie91]

Interests and studies vary.

ROLMAO -- @ "interests" ---an anecdote. I was in High School
when Pope John XXIII ---did his landmark thing which included
the statement "JOOS OF TODAY ARE NOT GUILTY OF KILLING
JESUS" (approx.) MY high school had, by happenstance, an
interesting demographic----1/3 Protestant, 1/3 Catholic and
1/3 Jew (all WHITE---it has started out as an episcopalian
enclave----Pre-revolutionary War.) The reaction at school was
NOTABLE-----the catholic kids were delighted---no more NO MEAT Friday. The Protestants were SCANDLIZED 'who said that
he (da pope) can CHANGE HISTORY' ? and da joooos giggled
as in -------oh----so? what else is new?

 

[Meriweather]

an anecdote.

Very odd.

 

[irosie91]

Very odd.

what about that anecdote do you find ODD?

 

[Meriweather]

what about that anecdote do you find ODD?

Abstaining from meat on Fridays has nothing to do with Christ being crucified.

 

[irosie91]

Abstaining from meat on Fridays has nothing to do with Christ being crucified.

the cessation of NO MEAT ON FRIDAY----was one of the
provisions of VATICAN II. At no point did I suggest the
REASON that Pope John XXIII issued that edict. He just did.
You got something else you wish to call ODD about
Pope John XXIII. Is the controversy still ONGOING?

 

[BreezeWood]

So “ Christians “ don’t believe that G-D sent his only son down to die for our sins? The revised version.

too many believe the fallacy written by the crucifiers, they are no different than the jews who worship the fallacy claim by moses and their 10 commandments. or the liar abraham - special people by the heavens.

the events of the 1st century were the renewal from the time of noah the religion of paradise - liberation theology, self determination what jesus and those people at that time died for - - not one mention in the c-bible, used for their own purposes while disguising their victims.

 

[BreezeWood]

who are the "crucifiers"?

the jewish - roman (christian) alliance used when the convenience suited their mutual interests. that would not be the religion of paradise, liberation theology, self determination - jesus and his followers during the 1st century events.

 

[Meriweather]

You got something else you wish to call ODD

Please relax. First, as I said the Crucifixion had nothing to do with abstinence from meat on Fridays. Second, there is no reason why should any non-Catholic care what Catholic practice was--or became--or is--on Fridays.

 

[theHawk]

Are there Jews in the porn industry? Yes. Document that they actually RUN it

 

[theHawk]

My religion is culpable for creating your “ savior?” Don’t “ Christians “ believe G-D deny his only son down to die for our sins? You should THANK US

I guess the real question you have to ask yourself is, if you were alive back then during Jesus’s time on Earth, would you have believed him, would you had followed him? Or would you be one of the ones hissing at him and agreeing with the Pharisees in wanting him crucified?

By your proclamation that we should “thank you”, a Jew of today, for the crucifixion of Christ, suggests you would indeed not only be one of the many that demanded his crucifixion, but would be happy about it.

 

[theHawk]

You have NOTHING to say about CHRISTIAN HATE THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES AND STILL PREVAIL? Here is your chance

I have addressed this “Christian hate” towards Jews. It’s rather nonsensical to suggest all Christians hate Jewish people when over the centuries they gave Jewish people save haven in their countries.

I have already pointed out your “2000 years” bit is a lie, as Christians themselves were persecuted for hundreds of years by Pagans.

Jews have been allowed to prosper greatly in Christian Western society. We all know Jews are over represented in the upper class. They are a protected ”minority“ class too. Any criticism leads to the label of “anti-Semitic“, a special word just for Jews, because they are that special. But if you all hate Christians so much, why not move to Israel?

 

[Meriweather]

By your proclamation that we should “thank you”, a Jew of today, for the crucifixion of Christ, suggests you would indeed not only be one of the many that demanded his crucifixion, but would be happy about it.

Two things. The Interview you posted about Goldstein does not need to be in this thread. Goldstein is not posting here. Therefore, no one here can discuss his views with him.

Second, ILOVEISRAEL is obviously quoting something some Christian sects view as Christ's mission on earth. We cannot expect a person of another faith, or even another denomination, to understand that not every Christian sees Christ's mission as purely accepting punishment for the sins of mankind.

In the Christian view (noted by Paul in the early days of Christianity) Adam and Eve represent the estrangement of mankind from God. In Christianity, Jesus represents the reconciliation of God and mankind. Reconciliation and personal punishment are two very different perspectives.

 

[USAF 2023]

I have addressed this “Christian hate” towards Jews. It’s rather nonsensical to suggest all Christians hate Jewish people when over the centuries they gave Jewish people save haven in their countries.

I have already pointed out your “2000 years” bit is a lie, as Christians themselves were persecuted for hundreds of years by Pagans.

Jews have been allowed to prosper greatly in Christian Western society. We all know Jews are over represented in the upper class. They are a protected ”minority“ class too. Any criticism leads to the label of “anti-Semitic“, a special word just for Jews, because they are that special. But if you all hate Christians so much, why not move to Israel?

I have posted many links RE; Christian Hate, bigotry, Violence and Death towards the Jewish People. There has also been an increase in Antisemitism in the US resulting in Violence and Death.
Continue to deny the above

 

[USAF 2023]

I guess the real question you have to ask yourself is, if you were alive back then during Jesus’s time on Earth, would you have believed him, would you had followed him? Or would you be one of the ones hissing at him and agreeing with the Pharisees in wanting him crucified?

By your proclamation that we should “thank you”, a Jew of today, for the crucifixion of Christ, suggests you would indeed not only be one of the many that demanded his crucifixion, but would be happy about it.

Why is it so important to “ Christians “ that we believe in the “ immaculate conception?” You know what I find SO HYPOCRITICAL??
You believe in the “ father “ G-D . So do the Jewish people . Somehow that isn’t good enough for “ Christians?” They “ elected “ themselves our judge and jury