Republicans Refuse to Negotiate With "The Hostage"

[martybegan]

These hostage takers said they would only raise the debt ceiling ( which is an imperative) if we make FOUR TRILLION in cuts

That’s insane

Over how many years?

And are these "Cuts" or just reductions in pre-programmed increases?

 

[martybegan]

The base, which has no fucking earthly clue what this would REALLY cause, demands it.

That's all that matters. They're at war.

Ah, politicians responding to those that elected them, what a fucking tyranny.

 

[Nostra]

Biden has no say in what gets to the House floor for a vote.

But Biden has been negotiating (finally).

The House already voted, and passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling, Simp.

 

[Dragonlady]

The unconstitutional, immoral “social programs” socialist bullshit that shouldn’t exist don’t accomplish anything and their absence wouldn’t MAKE anyone destitute. They may or may not be destitute, which isn’t a government’s responsibility.

How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby?

You’re the idiot that said, banning abortion would “save lives”. Now we have studies coming in from all over the country, saying that women are dying because I cannot access reproductive health care for their miscarriages and stillbirths.

400,000 American women have pregnancy complications past the first trimester that result in dangerous miscarriages and still births. These women are suffering. Their families are suffering.

Even after women go before the legislatures with the facts and figures in the horror that Republicans are inflicting upon the women of America, one by one, the bands are being passed in every red state in the union.

Now,you were here claiming that “no one will die” if their Social Security gets cut off or their Medicare. Besides, it’s not like they’re important people anyway, they’re just old and poor and didn’t plan well for the retirement.

There is nothing “pro life” about you. Your every post speaks of the misery and hate which form your opinions and your actions.

And you wonder why decent people fear a takeover of your country by such as you.

 

[Dragonlady]

Ah, politicians responding to those that elected them, what a fucking tyranny.

80% of the people who elected them oppose everything that Republicans are doing in terms of abortion, the debt ceiling, voting rights, and their treatment of minorities.

Republicans aren’t even putting abortion on the ballot anymore because they’ve lost the referendum in every red state they’ve run it. Now Republicans are busily trying to keep abortion referendums OFF the ballot.

All of these laws, bands, book burnings, and “anti-woke legislation” is pandering to the MAGA Cult base. None of it is electable in the General.

 

[Lesh]

Or now.

That’s like saying that you negotiate with your wife over her spending or you refuse to write a check to pay the mortgage and car payments.

No. You pay your bills and THEN have that discussion

 

[martybegan]

80% of the people who elected them oppose everything that Republicans are doing in terms of abortion, the debt ceiling, voting rights, and their treatment of minorities.

All of these laws, bands, book burnings, and “anti-woke legislation” is pandering to the MAGA Cult base. None of it is electable in the General.

Made up number is made up.

 

[pknopp]

That’s like saying that you negotiate with your wife over her spending or you refuse to write a check to pay the mortgage and car payments.

No. You pay your bills and THEN have that discussion

I likely would have got rid of the wife a very long time ago if she had got me into the debt our failed politicians have gotten us into.

 

[bodecea]

I'd be OK with just seeing you suffer.

Of course, that's a given.

 

[Nostra]

How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby?

You’re the idiot that said, banning abortion would “save lives”. Now we have studies coming in from all over the country, saying that women are dying because I cannot access reproductive health care for their miscarriages and stillbirths.

400,000 American women have pregnancy complications past the first trimester that result in dangerous miscarriages and still births. These women are suffering. Their families are suffering.

Even after women go before the legislatures with the facts and figures in the horror that Republicans are inflicting upon the women of America, one by one, the bands are being passed in every red state in the union.

Now,you were here claiming that “no one will die” if their Social Security gets cut off or their Medicare. Besides, it’s not like they’re important people anyway, they’re just old and poor and didn’t plan well for the retirement.

There is nothing “pro life” about you. Your every post speaks of the misery and hate which form your opinions and your actions.

And you wonder why decent people fear a takeover of your country by such as you.

Link to all these women dying all over the country?

 

[Dragonlady]

Made up number is made up.

I can back up all of my posts with links to valid websites that can pass a fact check. But you haven’t bothered to read them the other 20 times I posted them so after a while I figure you’re not gonna.

 

[1srelluc]

Of course, that's a given.

Thanks!

 

[Nostra]

80% of the people who elected them oppose everything that Republicans are doing in terms of abortion, the debt ceiling, voting rights, and their treatment of minorities.

Republicans aren’t even putting abortion on the ballot anymore because they’ve lost the referendum in every red state they’ve run it. Now Republicans are busily trying to keep abortion referendums OFF the ballot.

All of these laws, bands, book burnings, and “anti-woke legislation” is pandering to the MAGA Cult base. None of it is electable in the General.

80%?
Link?

 

[Lesh]

The House already voted, and passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling, Simp.

That includes FOUR TRILLION in cuts.

 

[martybegan]

I can back up all of my posts with links to valid websites that can pass a fact check. But you haven’t bothered to read them the other 20 times I posted them so after a while I figure you’re not gonna.

OOOOOH FACT CHECK.

Fact checkers are the definition of "who watches the watchers"

 

[Oddball]

Gaetz is saying the quiet part out loud.

Republicans consider the economy (and the American people) as their hostage

House Republicans Pretty Much Admit They Are Taking Debt Limit ‘Hostage’

Rep. Matt Gaetz used the “h-word,” but Speaker Kevin McCarthy and negotiators also said Democrats should be happy with getting little else out of the talks.

www.huffpost.com

Pure shit.

The congress passed a bill...Your team has nothing but the same litany of lies y'all tell every time this subject comes up.

We know you're stupid, but the rest of us aren't.

 

[Oddball]

That includes FOUR TRILLION in cuts.

Were that only true.

If there were real cuts, there would be no call to raise the debt ceiling.

 

[Oddball]

As long as raising taxes on the wealthy is totally off the table then pulling the rug out from under the needy should be off limits as well.

Wow...Were pulling out all the stops with every stale cliche in the book!

 

[Dragonlady]

Link to all these women dying all over the country?

The studies have just come out in the links aren’t up yet we’ll have them in a few days. In the meantime, you can entertain yourself with some light reading.

The economics of abortion bans: Abortion bans, low wages, and public underinvestment are interconnected economic policy tools to disempower and control workers

Abortion has long been framed as a cultural, religious, or personal issue rather than a material “bread and butter” economic concern. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, more economic policymakers have been emphasizing the issue as a pressing economic concern. In perhaps the first...

www.epi.org

 

[Dragonlady]

Were that only true.

If there were real cuts, there would be no call to raise the debt ceiling.

Yes, there would because you cannot wipe out a multi trillion dollar deficit in one budget. You have to cut slowly, which Biden has done in every single year.

McCarthy still hasn’t come up with a list of cuts so he’s not even ready to negotiate any cuts.

You complain bitterly that the Obama recovery took too long and was so weak, and yet you completely ignore the effect on GDP and unemployment, that the sequestration cuts the Republicans inflicted on the Obama Administration.

Sequestration will slow the recovery and job growth, period

Wednesday morning, the House Budget Committee is holding a hearing on “Replacing the Sequester”—the sequester being the automatic spending cuts established by the debt ceiling deal that are scheduled to kick in next year. It’s a safe bet that Republicans will scream about defense cuts being bad...

www.epi.org

This current vague attempt by McCarthy to cut social spending sounds like sequestration 2.0.

Since it turned out so badly for them last time, why are the Republicans trying to repeat every single mistake that they made after W’s economic crash?

Trump deregulated the banks, and now we’re seeing bank failures again. The economic harm Trump’s policies did in relation to trade and banking are only now being felt by the economy.

The huge engine that is the American economy does not turn on a dime. It takes a couple of years for deregulation and trade agreements to come into full force and effect, and for their impact on the broader economy to be felt.

If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result, Republicans have been insane since Reagan was in office. St. Ronnie cut taxes for the wealthy, blew up the deficit, and cut social programs for the poor. These policies doubled food stamp useage, increased poverty,and lead to the biggest stock market crash since he Great Depression.

Wash, rinse repeat for W. At least W started with a balance budget before he ran it into a ditch. Trump started with a massive deficit and rang up the spending.