Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

[Coyote]

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If you are going to resort to childish insults, don't expect any further replies.

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Apologies Bear, I neant

oh bullshit. The Op doesnt support Antifa any more than you support the neo nazis.

From your op.


" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."

Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

They do not limit themselves to white nationalists.

That you lie for them validates my point.

Well that is what they claim. Either way they are not comparable to MS13 which you blow them up to be. If they cant engage peaxefully arrest them. Same with your white nationalists . You NEED Antifa, because antifa justifies your victimhood and rallies your base onto retaliatory violence in the guise of self defense. You need these self created monsters because without them your you would have no excuses.

1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.

2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.

3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.

case in point.

2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.

1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.

3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.

 

[Coyote]

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Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump,

Huh? What did Trump do besides make liberals cry, get rid of the mandate, and over turn Obama's EOs with his EOs


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If you are going to resort to childish insults, don't expect any further replies.

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Childish insults I stated three facts ..


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Apologies Bear, I neant

You take the incident of a nutter shooting congressmen and use that to portray the entire left and excuse the violence from the right.

You condemn Maxine Water's words and give Trump's words a free pass. You scour the right wing media pushing this meme of one sided violence or, more often, just rude band trashy behavior.

No wonder think it so one sided, it excuses the right and creates a new class of victims and worse justifies violent actions on your part.

As to your second question:


Man who yelled 'get out of my country' before killing Indian immigrant pleads guilty, faces life sentence

Antifa is a violent organization, and you support it in your op.


As do the dem party and many lib politicians.

oh bullshit. The Op doesnt support Antifa any more than you support the neo nazis.

From your op.


" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."

Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

Because rioting is a positive attribute?

I've seen a rioter pretty much get his head blown off by a black National Guardsman.

I reckon he aimed to throw a cocktail at the National Guard. He got shut the fuck down.

Just passing by while getting out of town during the MacDuffie riots. In a Monte Carlo, baby.

A Democrat named Bob Graham called out the National Guard for that.


Back when Democrats were Americans. That is no longer the case.

Who is supporting rioting? No one. Rioting and instigating riots are criminal.

 

[Correll]

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Apologies Bear, I neant

From your op.


" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."

Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

They do not limit themselves to white nationalists.

That you lie for them validates my point.

Well that is what they claim. Either way they are not comparable to MS13 which you blow them up to be. If they cant engage peaxefully arrest them. Same with your white nationalists . You NEED Antifa, because antifa justifies your victimhood and rallies your base onto retaliatory violence in the guise of self defense. You need these self created monsters because without them your you would have no excuses.

1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.

2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.

3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.

case in point.

2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.

Show where I have defended white nationalists. I challenge you. HInt: don't waste your time trying to defend this one.

1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.

Don't guess. Read up on it. Rioting, destroying, obstructing traffic, is not Free Speech. YOu are defending violent goons.

3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.

I've commented on their various violent crimes, and suppression of speech, and the support they get from dems.

At no point have I even exaggerated something they have done, or that dems have done for them.


I don't have a guess as to how many of them there are, but they are having a major impact.



And it is completely right and just that people fight back against them.

 

[Marion Morrison]

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They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump,

Huh? What did Trump do besides make liberals cry, get rid of the mandate, and over turn Obama's EOs with his EOs


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If you are going to resort to childish insults, don't expect any further replies.

??????

Childish insults I stated three facts ..


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Apologies Bear, I neant

Antifa is a violent organization, and you support it in your op.


As do the dem party and many lib politicians.

oh bullshit. The Op doesnt support Antifa any more than you support the neo nazis.

From your op.


" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."

Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

Because rioting is a positive attribute?

I've seen a rioter pretty much get his head blown off by a black National Guardsman.

I reckon he aimed to throw a cocktail at the National Guard. He got shut the fuck down.

Just passing by while getting out of town during the MacDuffie riots. In a Monte Carlo, baby.

A Democrat named Bob Graham called out the National Guard for that.


Back when Democrats were Americans. That is no longer the case.

Who is supporting rioting? No one. Rioting and instigating riots are criminal.

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

This is not rocket surgery, my dear.

Times have changed, and I think you may want to reassess your position.

You didn't change.. the party changed.

You're still liberal, however, the Democrat party is about far leftists now. No room for liberal thinking.

Open debate? Not happening if they have their way. Cultural Marxism is their thing now. Shout down the opposition.

Listening to your side and respecting it? Democrats are not doing that. I am, but many partisans are not. Republicans respect personal opinions much moreso than Democrats.

 

[Mac1958]

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

I don't think "support" is an accurate term.

The Left enables its violent street crazies by downplaying their importance and deflecting to white nationalists.

The Right enables its white nationalists by downplaying their importance and deflecting to the violent street crazies.

This is how the game is played. This is why both ends are just getting worse and worse and we're not getting anywhere.
.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

I don't think "support" is an accurate term.

The Left enables its violent street crazies by downplaying their importance and deflecting to white nationalists.

The Right enables its white nationalists by downplaying their importance and deflecting to the violent street crazies.

This is how the game is played. This is why both ends are just getting worse and worse and we're not getting anywhere.
.

We are getting somewhere, Macboy. To a better place.

 

[Mac1958]

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

I don't think "support" is an accurate term.

The Left enables its violent street crazies by downplaying their importance and deflecting to white nationalists.

The Right enables its white nationalists by downplaying their importance and deflecting to the violent street crazies.

This is how the game is played. This is why both ends are just getting worse and worse and we're not getting anywhere.
.

We are getting somewhere, Macboy. To a better place.

Well, that's what I'm told. I don't see it, but I'll remain hopeful. Kind of. Not really.
.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

I don't think "support" is an accurate term.

The Left enables its violent street crazies by downplaying their importance and deflecting to white nationalists.

The Right enables its white nationalists by downplaying their importance and deflecting to the violent street crazies.

This is how the game is played. This is why both ends are just getting worse and worse and we're not getting anywhere.
.

We are getting somewhere, Macboy. To a better place.

Well, that's what I'm told. I don't see it, but I'll remain hopeful. Kind of. Not really.
.

I'm a pessimist, too. Not to that extent, though.

I believe in Americans.

 

[Papageorgio]

Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

One of the links in your above post, goes to a Forbes article and while it leaves much of the murders on the Islamists. The article had a piece of information that went along with the topic. Is stated that while left wingnuts only killed 23 people since 1992, however since 2016, the left wing nuts had killed 13 people, while rightwingnuts only killed 5. It seems your hypothesis is flawed.

Another article:
The far-right was responsible for the majority of America’s extremist killings in 2017


In total, extremists killed at least 34 people in 2017. The far-right accounted for 59% of these deaths, or 20 deaths. The report linked several killings to the alt-right movement, which expanded and moved its operations from the internet into the physical world last year. The chaos in Charlottesville, where a counter-protester, Heather Heyer, was killed and dozens were injured after a car driven by a white supremacist plowed into a group of pedestrians, marked the return of neo-Nazi street confrontations. The shift in tactic raises “the likely possibility of more such violent acts in the future,” the report notes.

I don’t trust the source, however, it does claim the violence was lower 2017 than in 2015 and 2016, glad it is all trending down.

The article noted a surge in 2017.

Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

One of the links in your above post, goes to a Forbes article and while it leaves much of the murders on the Islamists. The article had a piece of information that went along with the topic. Is stated that while left wingnuts only killed 23 people since 1992, however since 2016, the left wing nuts had killed 13 people, while rightwingnuts only killed 5. It seems your hypothesis is flawed.

Another article:
The far-right was responsible for the majority of America’s extremist killings in 2017


In total, extremists killed at least 34 people in 2017. The far-right accounted for 59% of these deaths, or 20 deaths. The report linked several killings to the alt-right movement, which expanded and moved its operations from the internet into the physical world last year. The chaos in Charlottesville, where a counter-protester, Heather Heyer, was killed and dozens were injured after a car driven by a white supremacist plowed into a group of pedestrians, marked the return of neo-Nazi street confrontations. The shift in tactic raises “the likely possibility of more such violent acts in the future,” the report notes.

I don’t trust the source, however, it does claim the violence was lower 2017 than in 2015 and 2016, glad it is all trending down.

The article noted a surge in 2017.

FTA: Overall, there was a marked decline in the number of extremist killings last year from the much higher total fatalities recorded in 2016 and 2015. That said, the report describes 2017 as fifth deadliest year for extremist violence since 1970.

I am reading a decline in this the last paragraph. I also see a lot of slant in the article.

 

[Coyote]

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

I don't think "support" is an accurate term.

The Left enables its violent street crazies by downplaying their importance and deflecting to white nationalists.

The Right enables its white nationalists by downplaying their importance and deflecting to the violent street crazies.

This is how the game is played. This is why both ends are just getting worse and worse and we're not getting anywhere.
.

We are getting somewhere, Macboy. To a better place.

What better place?

 

[Coyote]

..

If you are going to resort to childish insults, don't expect any further replies.

??????

Childish insults I stated three facts ..


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Psychologists’ couches are filling up as Americans seek relief from Trump Anxiety Disorder.


By JOHN F. HARRIS and SARAH ZIMMERMAN


10/12/2018 05:09 AM EDT

Apologies Bear, I neant

oh bullshit. The Op doesnt support Antifa any more than you support the neo nazis.

From your op.


" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."

Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

Because rioting is a positive attribute?

I've seen a rioter pretty much get his head blown off by a black National Guardsman.

I reckon he aimed to throw a cocktail at the National Guard. He got shut the fuck down.

Just passing by while getting out of town during the MacDuffie riots. In a Monte Carlo, baby.

A Democrat named Bob Graham called out the National Guard for that.


Back when Democrats were Americans. That is no longer the case.

Who is supporting rioting? No one. Rioting and instigating riots are criminal.

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

This is not rocket surgery, my dear.

Times have changed, and I think you may want to reassess your position.

You didn't change.. the party changed.

You're still liberal, however, the Democrat party is about far leftists now. No room for liberal thinking.

Open debate? Not happening if they have their way. Cultural Marxism is their thing now. Shout down the opposition.

Listening to your side and respecting it? Democrats are not doing that. I am, but many partisans are not. Republicans respect personal opinions much moreso than Democrats.

Democrats supportvAntifa?

Like Republicans support White Supremacists.

As for Republicans respecting personal opinions...how is that being shown in the responses to this thread?

 

[Coyote]

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Apologies Bear, I neant
Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

They do not limit themselves to white nationalists.

That you lie for them validates my point.

Well that is what they claim. Either way they are not comparable to MS13 which you blow them up to be. If they cant engage peaxefully arrest them. Same with your white nationalists . You NEED Antifa, because antifa justifies your victimhood and rallies your base onto retaliatory violence in the guise of self defense. You need these self created monsters because without them your you would have no excuses.

1. Cops keep being ordered to stand down by dem politicians, so they don't get arrested.

2. Not my white nationalists. I've not lied to defend them, like you have for antifa.

3. We've seen plenty of examples where no one fought back against Antifa, and they still were violent and/or destructive. So that's simply not true.

case in point.

2. Of course they are your white nationalists . you've lied and defended them just as I have Antifa. Now think about that and maybe stop accusing others of things they havent done. Until then the white nationslists are your boys and girls.

Show where I have defended white nationalists. I challenge you. HInt: don't waste your time trying to defend this one.

1. Why are they told to stand down? In doing so they are giving the same "free pass" to the opposition right? My guess, without reading each case individually is that stand diwn orders as such are rare, police have to walk a very fine line between maintaining order and not onfringing on free speech rights.

Don't guess. Read up on it. Rioting, destroying, obstructing traffic, is not Free Speech. YOu are defending violent goons.

3. I dont disagree with you on Antifa's destructive and violent behavior. I am just saying is you have built them up as bigger than life. Charge them with property destruction and assault. Believe it or not....they have been.

I've commented on their various violent crimes, and suppression of speech, and the support they get from dems.

At no point have I even exaggerated something they have done, or that dems have done for them.


I don't have a guess as to how many of them there are, but they are having a major impact.



And it is completely right and just that people fight back against them.

Show me where I defended Antifa.

 

[Marion Morrison]

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??????

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By JOHN F. HARRIS and SARAH ZIMMERMAN


10/12/2018 05:09 AM EDT

Apologies Bear, I neant

From your op.


" antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression."

Antifa is not the Bogeyman you have blown them up to be. They are thugs that tangle with and target white nationslists. They destroy property and cause rioting and disorder. You have bkown them uo into something like MS -13 which is ridiculous.

It seems you have a great need to portray yourselves as victims which is the ultimate irony given your constant attacks on the left fir their politics of victimization.

Because rioting is a positive attribute?

I've seen a rioter pretty much get his head blown off by a black National Guardsman.

I reckon he aimed to throw a cocktail at the National Guard. He got shut the fuck down.

Just passing by while getting out of town during the MacDuffie riots. In a Monte Carlo, baby.

A Democrat named Bob Graham called out the National Guard for that.


Back when Democrats were Americans. That is no longer the case.

Who is supporting rioting? No one. Rioting and instigating riots are criminal.

Antifa riots, Democrats support Antifa. They are the brownshirt arm of the Democrat party.

This is not rocket surgery, my dear.

Times have changed, and I think you may want to reassess your position.

You didn't change.. the party changed.

You're still liberal, however, the Democrat party is about far leftists now. No room for liberal thinking.

Open debate? Not happening if they have their way. Cultural Marxism is their thing now. Shout down the opposition.

Listening to your side and respecting it? Democrats are not doing that. I am, but many partisans are not. Republicans respect personal opinions much moreso than Democrats.

Democrats supportvAntifa?

Like Republicans support White Supremacists.

As for Republicans respecting personal opinions...how is that being shown in the responses to this thread?

1st point: Indeed they do.

2nd point: I can't vouch for that, however they seem to be more accepting, the alternative is Cultural Marxism. You down with that?

I'm sorry, but these are the options for a liberal in 2018.

I don't mind liberals, it's good to question authority. Or whatever.

Cultural Marxists are assholes, though.

 

[OKTexas]

Yeah, according to you ass backwards commies, conservative speech is violence and and your regressive violence is speech. Van Jones was a perfect profit for your un-American bullshit party, everything inside out and upside down. America told you idiots we'd had a belly full of your crap with the election of Trump and now it's you who refuses to accept the results of an election, keep it up and you won't like the results.

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We have accepted it. You seem to confuse opposition to policies with not accepting elections. Isn't time you find a new excuse?

So the left-wing violence that's going on all over the country is now the definition of "opposition to policies"? You might want to reconsider that definition, you may wind up having to live with it as your new reality. BTW, demanding impeachment from election day on is not accepting the election, it's just pathetic.

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Here is something to ponder then. Remember how you opposed Obama from the day he won the election? You all got upset because you were accused of being racist for opposing his policies? Well using your logic I guess it was true huh? You were sore losers who couldnt accept the results of the election? Nothing to do with policies right? Remember the vow to make him a one term president right at the start?

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

So tell me child, who demanded maobamas impeachment form the day he was elected on? One or two names of prominent people will do.

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Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Just "murders"??? How many is that actually? About 6?

How about intimidation, property damage, street thuggery, and data mining? How many rowdy demonstrations occuring on politicians front yards or in public spaces?

That's the problem with buying numbers on isolated factoids. Let's put it another way. If the Tea Party were to be getting arrested in the HUNDREDS every month --- would that make it even? Don't think so. Would it have been on the FRONT PAGES and had congressional investigations? You bet your ass it would have been..

Party of drama queening and theatrics is turning ugly. And no lipstick is gonna fix it..

So why do you ignore the violence from the right? Why do you ONLY focus on the left?

No one is ignoring anything, I think we're talking about what's currently happening in politics, do you have any examples in the last few months?

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[DigitalDrifter]

"Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents."


OP, you're serious ? Non-existent ?

 

[OKTexas]

Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

One of the links in your above post, goes to a Forbes article and while it leaves much of the murders on the Islamists. The article had a piece of information that went along with the topic. Is stated that while left wingnuts only killed 23 people since 1992, however since 2016, the left wing nuts had killed 13 people, while rightwingnuts only killed 5. It seems your hypothesis is flawed.

Another article:
The far-right was responsible for the majority of America’s extremist killings in 2017


In total, extremists killed at least 34 people in 2017. The far-right accounted for 59% of these deaths, or 20 deaths. The report linked several killings to the alt-right movement, which expanded and moved its operations from the internet into the physical world last year. The chaos in Charlottesville, where a counter-protester, Heather Heyer, was killed and dozens were injured after a car driven by a white supremacist plowed into a group of pedestrians, marked the return of neo-Nazi street confrontations. The shift in tactic raises “the likely possibility of more such violent acts in the future,” the report notes.

You better get a better source than the ADL, they have less credibility than the SPLC. Both are hard left organizations and can't be trusted.

.

 

[OldLady]

Is this a left wing joke? We are the violent one's now? Are you fucking serious? Two years of you assholes shooting up baseball fields, attacking people eating dinner and accosting them in airports or elevators and basically being obnoxious masked fucking pussies burning shit down is now us being violent?

Fuck you. You haven't seen violence dumb ass. Once we bring it you're fucked. Keep pushing you assholes. You shall see.

Fuck you. You haven't seen violence dumb ass. Once we bring it you're fucked. Keep pushing you assholes. You shall see.

LOL Yup. You're not violent. You're not angry. Not at all.

 

[Coyote]

We have accepted it. You seem to confuse opposition to policies with not accepting elections. Isn't time you find a new excuse?

So the left-wing violence that's going on all over the country is now the definition of "opposition to policies"? You might want to reconsider that definition, you may wind up having to live with it as your new reality. BTW, demanding impeachment from election day on is not accepting the election, it's just pathetic.

.

Here is something to ponder then. Remember how you opposed Obama from the day he won the election? You all got upset because you were accused of being racist for opposing his policies? Well using your logic I guess it was true huh? You were sore losers who couldnt accept the results of the election? Nothing to do with policies right? Remember the vow to make him a one term president right at the start?

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

So tell me child, who demanded maobamas impeachment form the day he was elected on? One or two names of prominent people will do.

.

Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Just "murders"??? How many is that actually? About 6?

How about intimidation, property damage, street thuggery, and data mining? How many rowdy demonstrations occuring on politicians front yards or in public spaces?

That's the problem with buying numbers on isolated factoids. Let's put it another way. If the Tea Party were to be getting arrested in the HUNDREDS every month --- would that make it even? Don't think so. Would it have been on the FRONT PAGES and had congressional investigations? You bet your ass it would have been..

Party of drama queening and theatrics is turning ugly. And no lipstick is gonna fix it..

So why do you ignore the violence from the right? Why do you ONLY focus on the left?

No one is ignoring anything, I think we're talking about what's currently happening in politics, do you have any examples in the last few months?

.

Of rightwing violence? Lets look at the past year and a half.

Wisconsin man who blew himself up might have been white supremacist making ISIS-style bombs

South Florida Man Sentenced to Prison for Hate Crime by Threatening to Blow Up Mosque

Trump Supporters Who Vandalized Mosque Arrested

Trump supporter admits writing anti-Trump graffiti at elementary school to try to frame liberals


‘Hail Trump:’ Woman charged with spray painting ethnic slurs across neighbor’s house


IN DARING PRE-DAWN RAID, TRUMP SUPPORTERS DEFACE CNN HEADQUARTERS – eTruePolitics

Horrifying Videos Show Racist Moms Teaching Kids To Be 'Patriots' By Vandalizing A Mosque | HuffPost




And for those who's memory is selectively short:
Democrats see hypocrisy in GOP attacks on ‘liberal mob’

Similar acts of protest unfolded in 2010, during the rise of the conservative Tea Party movement that sprang up in response to Obama's presidency and the Affordable Care Act.

Democratic town halls all around the country turned rowdy as Tea Party protesters shouted down lawmakers and expressed anger over ObamaCare.

Nearly 1 million conservatives marched to the Capitol building armed with signs and derogatory chants about the "parasite in chief," while a number of Democrats received violent threats and harassment, including a picture of a noose being faxed to Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) and a brick being thrown through the window of the district office of the late Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.).

Obama election spurs race threats, crimes

Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting "Assassinate Obama." Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.

Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postelection glow of racial progress and harmony, highlighting the stubborn racism that remains in America.

From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.

 

[Coyote]

Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

One of the links in your above post, goes to a Forbes article and while it leaves much of the murders on the Islamists. The article had a piece of information that went along with the topic. Is stated that while left wingnuts only killed 23 people since 1992, however since 2016, the left wing nuts had killed 13 people, while rightwingnuts only killed 5. It seems your hypothesis is flawed.

Another article:
The far-right was responsible for the majority of America’s extremist killings in 2017


In total, extremists killed at least 34 people in 2017. The far-right accounted for 59% of these deaths, or 20 deaths. The report linked several killings to the alt-right movement, which expanded and moved its operations from the internet into the physical world last year. The chaos in Charlottesville, where a counter-protester, Heather Heyer, was killed and dozens were injured after a car driven by a white supremacist plowed into a group of pedestrians, marked the return of neo-Nazi street confrontations. The shift in tactic raises “the likely possibility of more such violent acts in the future,” the report notes.

You better get a better source than the ADL, they have less credibility than the SPLC. Both are hard left organizations and can't be trusted.

.

stop using Brietbart and Fox then if you are going to demand credible sources.

 

[Oddball]

So the left-wing violence that's going on all over the country is now the definition of "opposition to policies"? You might want to reconsider that definition, you may wind up having to live with it as your new reality. BTW, demanding impeachment from election day on is not accepting the election, it's just pathetic.

.

Here is something to ponder then. Remember how you opposed Obama from the day he won the election? You all got upset because you were accused of being racist for opposing his policies? Well using your logic I guess it was true huh? You were sore losers who couldnt accept the results of the election? Nothing to do with policies right? Remember the vow to make him a one term president right at the start?

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

So tell me child, who demanded maobamas impeachment form the day he was elected on? One or two names of prominent people will do.

.

Some food for thought here.

Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Authoritarians historically have gained power by pointing to non-existent violence from their opponents.

In a recent address to right-wing evangelical leaders, President Trump warned that Democrats will resort to brute force if they win the midterm elections. “They will overturn everything we’ve done and they will do it violently,” said Trump, presenting his political opponents as an imminent threat to freedom of religion and speech.

This statement builds on a narrative that has gained power on Fox News and social media. It has been fed by conservative media outlets like Breitbart and organizations like the National Rifle Association, which has also publicly threatened journalists.

But the story that a wave of left-wing terrorism threatens America is wrong. The poster child for this false narrative is antifa, a small, weak organization that protests white supremacist aggression.

The real threat of violence comes from the right. The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism reports that right-wingers and white supremacists were responsible for 74 percent of the murders committed by political extremists in the United States over the past decade. Only 2 percent were committed by left-wing radicals. Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, has calculated that “terrorists inspired by Nationalist and Right Wing ideology have killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists since 1992.”

What’s more, white supremacists and their fellow travelers have strong connections to the establishment right and are far more organized than the antifa. They seek to provoke confrontation through armed marches onto college campuses and into the centers of liberal-leaning cities, like the confrontation in Charlottesville last summer.

These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

Perspective | Right-wing warnings pose far more danger to America than left-wing violence

Just "murders"??? How many is that actually? About 6?

How about intimidation, property damage, street thuggery, and data mining? How many rowdy demonstrations occuring on politicians front yards or in public spaces?

That's the problem with buying numbers on isolated factoids. Let's put it another way. If the Tea Party were to be getting arrested in the HUNDREDS every month --- would that make it even? Don't think so. Would it have been on the FRONT PAGES and had congressional investigations? You bet your ass it would have been..

Party of drama queening and theatrics is turning ugly. And no lipstick is gonna fix it..

So why do you ignore the violence from the right? Why do you ONLY focus on the left?

No one is ignoring anything, I think we're talking about what's currently happening in politics, do you have any examples in the last few months?

.

Of rightwing violence? Lets look at the past year and a half.

Wisconsin man who blew himself up might have been white supremacist making ISIS-style bombs

South Florida Man Sentenced to Prison for Hate Crime by Threatening to Blow Up Mosque

Trump Supporters Who Vandalized Mosque Arrested

Trump supporter admits writing anti-Trump graffiti at elementary school to try to frame liberals


‘Hail Trump:’ Woman charged with spray painting ethnic slurs across neighbor’s house


IN DARING PRE-DAWN RAID, TRUMP SUPPORTERS DEFACE CNN HEADQUARTERS – eTruePolitics

Horrifying Videos Show Racist Moms Teaching Kids To Be 'Patriots' By Vandalizing A Mosque | HuffPost




And for those who's memory is selectively short:
Democrats see hypocrisy in GOP attacks on ‘liberal mob’

Similar acts of protest unfolded in 2010, during the rise of the conservative Tea Party movement that sprang up in response to Obama's presidency and the Affordable Care Act.

Democratic town halls all around the country turned rowdy as Tea Party protesters shouted down lawmakers and expressed anger over ObamaCare.

Nearly 1 million conservatives marched to the Capitol building armed with signs and derogatory chants about the "parasite in chief," while a number of Democrats received violent threats and harassment, including a picture of a noose being faxed to Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) and a brick being thrown through the window of the district office of the late Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.).

Obama election spurs race threats, crimes

Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting "Assassinate Obama." Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.

Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postelection glow of racial progress and harmony, highlighting the stubborn racism that remains in America.

From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.

Once again, your intellectual dishonesty is laid bare....These are all individual incidents, perpetrated by individuals or a couple of miscreants....Not one of the things you've cited point to any instances of large scale organized hooliganism and rioting, which has been the hallmark of antifa goons squads...And the nonsense that transpired in Charlottesviille wouldn't have happened had the dopey tiki torchers been left to their own little demonstration.